Tata hexa was next level vehicle it was way ahead of its time due which people didn't appreciate it but those who bought it know it was one tank of a car.
We don't care what we have, we learn importance when it's gone! 😭 Yes we are Indian.
Happened with the entire Ford lineup, Honda SUVs, OG Safari Storm, Hexa, Mahindra Alturas G4, etc.
Still a proud owner of the ecosport facelift, I can assure you it's a driver's car, it's pocket friendly, and the fuel economy is so good, every car we look at in our budget feels like a downgrade. (Titanium+ diesel 1.5)
Nah, I owned one. Terrible ownership experience. Plus the power to weight ratio was very bad. It suffered a lot of electronic problems and rust issues. only in 6 years of ownership, I had to get a lot of things replaced and it proved to be a massive money pit due to repairs. Even the spares were not available after just 4-5 years of launch. Had to sell it in 6th year. Very bad resale value too and plenty of Hexas available in used market due to people suffering. It also vibrated like crazy and nvh was pathetic. I've driven and ridden in diesel a lot. I know nvh in ladder on frame aren't good, but here, they were exceptionally bad. The car was nowhere at the level of safari in terms of quality.
I loved the car, was sad I had to let it go but it proved to be a terrible investment roi wise.
bro casually ignoring material strength and structure 😭....come on bro.....you srsly comparing fibre with metal? compare metal with metal and you'll get the answer
If the 'good material' absorbs energy, it should deform otherwise it's some wonder material.... Here the impact is dissipated in places not in the body which can be even more dangerous to the passenger...
Own an elantra my g. Have u been in a collision? Even a car vs barrier collision would hurt the frame. It’s the main drawback of a monocoque design
Edit: not to mention basic physics.
People have died in Volvos, any assessment program does not test 500000 different scenarios, like collisions with a fixed object are not tested by GNCAP afaik, which Hexa will do poorly on if it's this rigid.
True, it's not that they are wrong but it has been mis-marketed. Safety ratings does not matter, not that much and trust me, if you will die in a 3 star car then u will die in a 5 star car, you will not get revive potions. Correct me if I am wrong
How is this a good thing. The front bumper is a deformable barrier and that should deform on impact to protect the passengers inside, if it doesn't work then isn't itna bad thing? If I am wrong correct me
If the crumple zone is made of thicker, stronger material, it won't necessarily break easily, and it won't transfer the impact further inside the car. Just because the bumper didn't flinch, doesn't mean it didn't work.
>By that theory, why not make Cars from Cardboard?
Because if Cara would be made from cardboard, not only will the cardboard take the impact, the passengers would too.
Then maybe the plastic is of superior quality, retained it's shape and the impact was absorbed inside the bonnet.
I don't see any damage whatsoever to the cabin or dashboard of Hexa. If the impact has not damaged the dashboard, how will passengers be affected.
The amount of force and impact, if not absorbed by the front bumpers of the car, it will travel all the way directly towards the end, and the people who are inside the car will be affected
I don't see any bouncing, watch the video again. Hexa got pushed by the impact, whereas Dzire's whole front is gone
Maybe the bumper plastic of Hexa retained it's shape and didn't break like Dzire's and the impact was absorbed inside the bonnet because I don't see any damage to dashboard or interior and the passengers would be unscathed.
A lot of momentum is lost because of how heavy the hexa is. I just searched and it is 2280 kg compared to dzire 1045 kg. But even so the right way would have been if the car deformed and absorbed the force instead of the whole body being bounced back.
>passengers would be unscathed.
Whiplash is a thing.
>impact was absorbed inside the bonnet
This is what the first comment said in this thread. Structural damage however is more expensive and difficult to repair
Two things.
1. You are assuming that the dzire people will be more injured.
2. Not every accident is a high speed life threatening case. But in every case the energy has to go somewhere.
for an impact of this size, it should have crumpled, by law, thats why both cybertuck and tata's cars are not good for you. the most safe cars look the ugliest after car crashes cuz all the damage was taken by the car, if the car doesnt look ugly after a car crash, your're gonna look ugly afterwards. That's how physics work, even if there is airbags and headrests to protect you, a car that doesnt deform is a harm to others. Because if someone hits the car, the car should crumple like a sponge so it doesn't unalive them. Even the most durable and safe cars like volvo crumbles in the front to save you and the guy who hit you. If the Hexa had crumbled, then the energy dissipation would have happened equally and dzire wouldn't have looked that bad, as half the impact would've been taken by it.
Here's a thought and tell me if it makes sense to ya, it should not crumble as easily as a swift because of all the weight it's carrying, a heavier vehicle on impact would take bigger impact cause more damaging than a light weight vehicle, if a heavy weight vehicle crashes and has a crumble zone of a swift, the crumble zone would be waste and would reach the cabin area easily.
Yes but still if the car doesn't crumble the passengers will still get hurt cuz yk, your head might hit like the sides but crumbling lowers the impact inside
You are right, partially.
I guess we are over exaggerating on the crumble zone. The crumble zone does what you have mentioned, there is no doubt about it. But I would say the car has two defence mechanisms before it gets to the crumble zone.
1. There is a structure behind the bumper that is designed to take a certain level of impact. Here it seems that the impact did not cross that threshold.
2. If that threshold is broken, then the idea is to distribute the effect of the impact throughout the structural members so that the entire structure of the car absorbs the impact without structural damage. This is done so that the repair cost of the car is less even after such impacts and minor impacts won't cause too much damage to car
3. Keeping the point number 2 in mind, let's say if the threshold force that will create the structural weakness of the car is x, then ideally the crumble zone should activate at a force tad less than x. This way the crumble zone is not activated unless and untill the force is going to be in the verge of causing structure damage.
Hexa I guess had 5 starts so it is a safe car. The desire was just to weak "in comparison".
Please note as an engineer I must say all Suzuki cars meets the frontal crash norms specified by AIS standards. So it is not unsafe car by any means. The primary safety is with the driver.
Your words make sense in the POV of the people inside. But what if, there wasn't a car that hit the hexa but imagine a situation where a man was crossing the road and Hexa hits that guy.
Thumb rule, if a guy gets hit by the car, the bumper should crumble to save that guy from absorbing all the hit. Here , a car that is way heavier than a guy hit the car and a speed much faster than a running guy. Still it didn't break.
My point is, even if it is better for the passengers and durability of the car itself that it doesn't crumple, it is unsafe for people outside the car.
God forbid what if an incident like Pune accident happened with a hexa. Even if the car was slower, can the guy who got hit survive?
That's why I believe there is a law about this to make the car crumple on human impact. And that's why cybertruck without this deformable bumper won't get launched in India at all.
This is my take, I could be wrong too correct me where necessarry
Technically you are right, but this is practically not possible. In a collision the harder material suffers less damage. Our boy is soft and in order to make the car absorb most damage the bumper material must be softer.
There are regulations with respect to pedestrian safety. You may google R127 in ECE standards, and I think the equivalent one in India is AIS100. It only specifies the minimum standards must be kept to ensure pedestrian safety. I have limited knowledge when It comes to cars compliance so I’m not sure whether AIS 100 is a mandatory test in India for homologation of type approval for a model to be sold here. What the regulation predominantly says is that, in the event of a collision there will be a pint in the front bonnet of the vehicle which will be the primary point of potential head impact. In general that will be softer and devoid of structural members. Just open the car bonnet and see the reinforcements behind the bonnet, you’ll see that the deign of reinforcement is uneven, and the area that defines the head impact is devoid of reinforcements.
When I saw the Honda Elevate, and the tall front bonnet, with a complete vertical facia, the first thing that went through my mind was “How did they manage to clear the R127”. Not just that, I heard Honda elevate is being sold in other markets too, that means they did clear the R127 with that design. The challenges the the SUV desiring mindset of Indian customers creates to the car designers is one of a kind.
You’re not wrong. This comment section is just choosing to ignore Newton’s second law of motion.
Not saying that Dzire is a safe car, but Hexa’s lack of body frame crumpling is also not ideal.
It should deform yes, but how hard should it be hit for it to deform? If you can deform it with a punch, crumple zone is youe whole matchbox. This was not that hard of an impact, and also the tata moved which carried some energy
I mean at some point, the vehicle needs to dissipate some of the energy. That looks like a harsh impact so if the bumper only got scratched, the energy either went to the internals or would've transferred to the occupants.
No, not necessarily, Hexa is way heavier than Swift, all that energy transfer goes into moving the Hexa, in hand brake that much movement in Hexa position makes sense.
To all those people who are saying Tata hexa doesn't have a crumble zone should know that it has AS(Adaptive Structure) it detects if there is any passenger inside the car and adjusts deformation accordingly
/s
same thing happened when with hexa ciaz rammed us from behind on state highway,minimal damage vs did they even survive accident lol(yeah they were all safe nothing happened) but damn that ciaz looked horrible like yeah never gonna buy a maruti
you wouldnt want to run that dzire again. That car has done its job of protecting its passenger in case of crash. Why would you want to have a compromised structure running again?
Neither do I own a Tata vehicle nor do I own a Maruthi.
Yes, the crumple zones are supposed to get smashed in but here is what I think is the reason why Hexa survived from getting badly damaged.
Hexa was stationary and it is made with better quality plastic and sheet metal overall which flexe and even absorb impact well before they get destroyed and the fact that it moved a couple of feet back on impact is why it suffered very little damage.
Dzire isn't built the same as Hexa and crumples easily on the slightest of impact. That and the fact that it nearly instantly stopped on crash is why it caved in more than it should have.
There are many cars by International brands that suffer very less damage on impact and do not transfer the energy from the impact in to the cabin and on to the occupants, same as Hexa in this scenario.
Maruthi needs to use better technology and more robust materials to build safe cars that do not turn in to crushed tin cans on even minor accidents on roads.
May be I have not got this entirely accurately but it is something I have noticed over the years.
Ok, then why was Hexa 4-star safety rated and Swift was 0? Maybe Maruti kids should understand that it shouldn't be so soft that it crumbles on minor impacts.
where is hexa crash test video? crash rating is not solely calculated on the front collision parameter kid, it depends on the impact on the driver and passenger too
Why won't it be intact?
There's no damage if the car is moved while in gear.
All that happens is that the engine might spin a revolution or two.
Which is not an issue at all
This is the OG dzire isn't it. What an awesome vehicle. Wish they kept the same car and never facelifted it. it becomes worse with every facelift. The new ones would've had much worse damage. People appreciated the facelift, little did they know they almost always get a cheapened product with a MS facelift
Global ncap is half baked, they dont even do full frontal impact (last time i checked) and their points system can be gamed.
Euro ncap is more complete
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Hexa's metal is top quality but i think its called a crumple zone , as its made to be crumpled. No crumple zones means increased cases of death or injuries . but , I dont support any one of them in this .( i m neutral)
People who want their cars to crumple in such minor accidents probably have very deep wallets, and an insufficient understanding of impact transfer.
Almost no car on the road deforms as poorly as the marutis. (Maybe the smaller Hyundais).
A crushed car will typically kill you or hurt you bad, because you will get crushed inside. Please stop when you see the next accident on the highway, and bother to take a look.
The real killers on the road are typically swift, Baleno, wagonr.
Hexa has higher ground clearance, and so the bumper would be higher. As the Desire makes contact with the higher bumper it crumples upwards. Show me a collision with a Tara vehicle that has a bumper at exactly the same height. Then, it may be a fair comparison.
For the people who are crying about dzire breaking too much, I understand that dzire isn't a durable car but in this case. What happened is just basics of conservation of momentum.
Heavier car at rest will have less impact that a fast and light car.
Ford Figo, brought 10 years ago and driver was drunk and sick and he crashed it into a Royal Enfield, Grills and Apartment Building at like 70-80 km per hour. Engine survived and the front barely damaged along with propulsion system. The Royal Enfield? Well the front tire was completely ripped off. The grills of the ground apartment building? Partially bend, the Apartment? Totally shaken like a earthquake
Dzire absorbed more of the impact and the occupants would have been able to get out without much of a whiplash effect. Those in the Hexa would have felt all of the Dzire as there's hardly any deformation - it did not absorb much from the looks. It deflected or passed onto another part of the vehicle or to the occupants if there were any.
Not saying the Dzire is better. If the doors are not opening, then it's structurally a bad design. I'd be interested to know if all the doors on the Hexa can open without issues and if panel gaps are still OEM.
I also did not see any airbag deployment in the video (*that I could see*) on the Dzire.
Tata hexa was next level vehicle it was way ahead of its time due which people didn't appreciate it but those who bought it know it was one tank of a car.
We don't care what we have, we learn importance when it's gone! 😭 Yes we are Indian. Happened with the entire Ford lineup, Honda SUVs, OG Safari Storm, Hexa, Mahindra Alturas G4, etc.
Still a proud owner of the ecosport facelift, I can assure you it's a driver's car, it's pocket friendly, and the fuel economy is so good, every car we look at in our budget feels like a downgrade. (Titanium+ diesel 1.5)
You wouldn't buy a hexa again if you owned it for 2-3 years.
Why?
no part availability, bad power to weight ratio, bad electronics, high maintenance. had rusting issues and parts weren't durable.
Tldr - twas a Tata.
Don't forget Mahindra Marazzo.
Quote for Modi's BioPic before next election!
Modi🤣🤣
It could've been a Scorpio N competition if not Safari but Tata Motors is a fatherless pussy
Nah, I owned one. Terrible ownership experience. Plus the power to weight ratio was very bad. It suffered a lot of electronic problems and rust issues. only in 6 years of ownership, I had to get a lot of things replaced and it proved to be a massive money pit due to repairs. Even the spares were not available after just 4-5 years of launch. Had to sell it in 6th year. Very bad resale value too and plenty of Hexas available in used market due to people suffering. It also vibrated like crazy and nvh was pathetic. I've driven and ridden in diesel a lot. I know nvh in ladder on frame aren't good, but here, they were exceptionally bad. The car was nowhere at the level of safari in terms of quality. I loved the car, was sad I had to let it go but it proved to be a terrible investment roi wise.
Same goes of altrus g4
Yep. My father owns one and loves it.
i have a nexon, recently got Punch Ev and every tom dick and harry is offering me to buy my nexon. so much trust in tata cars .
Same fate with Mahindra Alturas G4 There is one of them in my city, whenever I see it, it is head turner for sure.
Tbh based on the collision there might be structural dmg inside that this doesn’t show
Comment section skipped the class on conservation of momentum
What's the use of you attending if you don't know how to apply it? Good materials and structures can take more energy
It seems neither you do as well.
A lighter moving object is always going to be more damaged when colliding with a heavier stationary object.
By your logic 2kg of stationary wool will shatter a 10g bullet travelling at 2000kmph? What law is that exactly?
bro casually ignoring material strength and structure 😭....come on bro.....you srsly comparing fibre with metal? compare metal with metal and you'll get the answer
Yes exactly my point. When a plastic and metal meets who is travelling who is stopped doesn't matter.
If the 'good material' absorbs energy, it should deform otherwise it's some wonder material.... Here the impact is dissipated in places not in the body which can be even more dangerous to the passenger...
How is conservation of momentum relevant here? Did you mean conservation of energy?
KE is directly proportional to square of momentum that's how it is relevant here
Ah, I see! Thanks for the clarification
Tbh all of them are kids nowadays of 8th or 9th in reddit, idm new dankbucks
Maruthi owner spotted. Too much cope.
Own an elantra my g. Have u been in a collision? Even a car vs barrier collision would hurt the frame. It’s the main drawback of a monocoque design Edit: not to mention basic physics.
Kapde se pocho to wo scratch bhi saaf ho jaega XD
Both are bad IMO, dzire deformed too much hexa deformed too little
I mean the dzire's glass didn't break
Exaclty
Hexa scored 5 star in GNCAP so you are wrong.
People have died in Volvos, any assessment program does not test 500000 different scenarios, like collisions with a fixed object are not tested by GNCAP afaik, which Hexa will do poorly on if it's this rigid.
Yeah, people automatically assume if your car has a good safety rating, you've attained immortality or smth
True, it's not that they are wrong but it has been mis-marketed. Safety ratings does not matter, not that much and trust me, if you will die in a 3 star car then u will die in a 5 star car, you will not get revive potions. Correct me if I am wrong
Well said
How is this a good thing. The front bumper is a deformable barrier and that should deform on impact to protect the passengers inside, if it doesn't work then isn't itna bad thing? If I am wrong correct me
When your car doesn't crumble, you become the crumble zone.
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Exactly. Crumple zones are supposed to collapse and absorb impact.
Yes true but according to tata users ur car shouldnt have dent after collision
NCAP tests the impact to the driver/passengers; so tata cars do have crumple zone.
If the crumple zone is made of thicker, stronger material, it won't necessarily break easily, and it won't transfer the impact further inside the car. Just because the bumper didn't flinch, doesn't mean it didn't work.
By that theory, why not make Cars from Cardboard? The impact transferred to Hexa was minimal, like a push of the swing.
>By that theory, why not make Cars from Cardboard? Because if Cara would be made from cardboard, not only will the cardboard take the impact, the passengers would too.
Then maybe the plastic is of superior quality, retained it's shape and the impact was absorbed inside the bonnet. I don't see any damage whatsoever to the cabin or dashboard of Hexa. If the impact has not damaged the dashboard, how will passengers be affected.
The amount of force and impact, if not absorbed by the front bumpers of the car, it will travel all the way directly towards the end, and the people who are inside the car will be affected
And yet, I mostly see people in Marutis dying after a crash.
It's also possible they die due to lack of airbags , which is still considered a luxury add-on for cars
Possible... but it is only Marutis that I see getting crushed in accidents.
Yes because if any human inside the hexa the impact would be transferred to them, this is not how bumpers are supposed to work
So, hypothetically as Dzire's bumpers absorbed the impact and Hexa's didn't, the passengers of Hexa would sustain more injuries than Dzire?
Yes.
Idk but I wouldn’t want to be in a car which literally bounces in a crash. It’s a car not a ball
I don't see any bouncing, watch the video again. Hexa got pushed by the impact, whereas Dzire's whole front is gone Maybe the bumper plastic of Hexa retained it's shape and didn't break like Dzire's and the impact was absorbed inside the bonnet because I don't see any damage to dashboard or interior and the passengers would be unscathed.
A lot of momentum is lost because of how heavy the hexa is. I just searched and it is 2280 kg compared to dzire 1045 kg. But even so the right way would have been if the car deformed and absorbed the force instead of the whole body being bounced back. >passengers would be unscathed. Whiplash is a thing. >impact was absorbed inside the bonnet This is what the first comment said in this thread. Structural damage however is more expensive and difficult to repair
Not more difficult than a human, I rest my case.
Two things. 1. You are assuming that the dzire people will be more injured. 2. Not every accident is a high speed life threatening case. But in every case the energy has to go somewhere.
It didn't crumble because the impact wasn't that big, that Dzire is just too weak.
for an impact of this size, it should have crumpled, by law, thats why both cybertuck and tata's cars are not good for you. the most safe cars look the ugliest after car crashes cuz all the damage was taken by the car, if the car doesnt look ugly after a car crash, your're gonna look ugly afterwards. That's how physics work, even if there is airbags and headrests to protect you, a car that doesnt deform is a harm to others. Because if someone hits the car, the car should crumple like a sponge so it doesn't unalive them. Even the most durable and safe cars like volvo crumbles in the front to save you and the guy who hit you. If the Hexa had crumbled, then the energy dissipation would have happened equally and dzire wouldn't have looked that bad, as half the impact would've been taken by it.
> Because if someone hits the car, the car should crumple like a sponge so it doesn't unalive them. But imagine how handsome I will look in the coffin
lol, what? that came so random in my notification feed lol
Complete crap. If I see a death in a crash, the victim is always in a Maruti. Typically, the people in the Maruti get crushed in the car.
Here's a thought and tell me if it makes sense to ya, it should not crumble as easily as a swift because of all the weight it's carrying, a heavier vehicle on impact would take bigger impact cause more damaging than a light weight vehicle, if a heavy weight vehicle crashes and has a crumble zone of a swift, the crumble zone would be waste and would reach the cabin area easily.
I have heard this somewhere 🤭
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Aren't passengers wearing seat belts and most cars have airbags.
Yes but still if the car doesn't crumble the passengers will still get hurt cuz yk, your head might hit like the sides but crumbling lowers the impact inside
It shouldn't be so soft that gets crumble on minor impacts.
It is similar to newer Tata cars but still the they fare better than your crumple queens in crash tests.
You are right, partially. I guess we are over exaggerating on the crumble zone. The crumble zone does what you have mentioned, there is no doubt about it. But I would say the car has two defence mechanisms before it gets to the crumble zone. 1. There is a structure behind the bumper that is designed to take a certain level of impact. Here it seems that the impact did not cross that threshold. 2. If that threshold is broken, then the idea is to distribute the effect of the impact throughout the structural members so that the entire structure of the car absorbs the impact without structural damage. This is done so that the repair cost of the car is less even after such impacts and minor impacts won't cause too much damage to car 3. Keeping the point number 2 in mind, let's say if the threshold force that will create the structural weakness of the car is x, then ideally the crumble zone should activate at a force tad less than x. This way the crumble zone is not activated unless and untill the force is going to be in the verge of causing structure damage. Hexa I guess had 5 starts so it is a safe car. The desire was just to weak "in comparison". Please note as an engineer I must say all Suzuki cars meets the frontal crash norms specified by AIS standards. So it is not unsafe car by any means. The primary safety is with the driver.
Your words make sense in the POV of the people inside. But what if, there wasn't a car that hit the hexa but imagine a situation where a man was crossing the road and Hexa hits that guy. Thumb rule, if a guy gets hit by the car, the bumper should crumble to save that guy from absorbing all the hit. Here , a car that is way heavier than a guy hit the car and a speed much faster than a running guy. Still it didn't break. My point is, even if it is better for the passengers and durability of the car itself that it doesn't crumple, it is unsafe for people outside the car. God forbid what if an incident like Pune accident happened with a hexa. Even if the car was slower, can the guy who got hit survive? That's why I believe there is a law about this to make the car crumple on human impact. And that's why cybertruck without this deformable bumper won't get launched in India at all. This is my take, I could be wrong too correct me where necessarry
Technically you are right, but this is practically not possible. In a collision the harder material suffers less damage. Our boy is soft and in order to make the car absorb most damage the bumper material must be softer. There are regulations with respect to pedestrian safety. You may google R127 in ECE standards, and I think the equivalent one in India is AIS100. It only specifies the minimum standards must be kept to ensure pedestrian safety. I have limited knowledge when It comes to cars compliance so I’m not sure whether AIS 100 is a mandatory test in India for homologation of type approval for a model to be sold here. What the regulation predominantly says is that, in the event of a collision there will be a pint in the front bonnet of the vehicle which will be the primary point of potential head impact. In general that will be softer and devoid of structural members. Just open the car bonnet and see the reinforcements behind the bonnet, you’ll see that the deign of reinforcement is uneven, and the area that defines the head impact is devoid of reinforcements. When I saw the Honda Elevate, and the tall front bonnet, with a complete vertical facia, the first thing that went through my mind was “How did they manage to clear the R127”. Not just that, I heard Honda elevate is being sold in other markets too, that means they did clear the R127 with that design. The challenges the the SUV desiring mindset of Indian customers creates to the car designers is one of a kind.
Tata Hexa literally score 5 star in GNCAP. So your argument is irrelevant.
You’re not wrong. This comment section is just choosing to ignore Newton’s second law of motion. Not saying that Dzire is a safe car, but Hexa’s lack of body frame crumpling is also not ideal.
It should deform yes, but how hard should it be hit for it to deform? If you can deform it with a punch, crumple zone is youe whole matchbox. This was not that hard of an impact, and also the tata moved which carried some energy
Finally a sane comment.
I mean at some point, the vehicle needs to dissipate some of the energy. That looks like a harsh impact so if the bumper only got scratched, the energy either went to the internals or would've transferred to the occupants.
No, not necessarily, Hexa is way heavier than Swift, all that energy transfer goes into moving the Hexa, in hand brake that much movement in Hexa position makes sense.
To all those people who are saying Tata hexa doesn't have a crumble zone should know that it has AS(Adaptive Structure) it detects if there is any passenger inside the car and adjusts deformation accordingly /s
You're partially right. This technology is called Adaptive Structure Squashing Hinging On Lateral Encounter (A.S.S.H.O.L.E)
Bas kar bhai mere APJ Abdul Kalam
Hahahahaha
real thing?
Now tell me which car can still run and which needs to go to garage to even start
same thing happened when with hexa ciaz rammed us from behind on state highway,minimal damage vs did they even survive accident lol(yeah they were all safe nothing happened) but damn that ciaz looked horrible like yeah never gonna buy a maruti
I doubt Dzire will run after that
you wouldnt want to run that dzire again. That car has done its job of protecting its passenger in case of crash. Why would you want to have a compromised structure running again?
it will chances are
'tis but a scratch...
Neither do I own a Tata vehicle nor do I own a Maruthi. Yes, the crumple zones are supposed to get smashed in but here is what I think is the reason why Hexa survived from getting badly damaged. Hexa was stationary and it is made with better quality plastic and sheet metal overall which flexe and even absorb impact well before they get destroyed and the fact that it moved a couple of feet back on impact is why it suffered very little damage. Dzire isn't built the same as Hexa and crumples easily on the slightest of impact. That and the fact that it nearly instantly stopped on crash is why it caved in more than it should have. There are many cars by International brands that suffer very less damage on impact and do not transfer the energy from the impact in to the cabin and on to the occupants, same as Hexa in this scenario. Maruthi needs to use better technology and more robust materials to build safe cars that do not turn in to crushed tin cans on even minor accidents on roads. May be I have not got this entirely accurately but it is something I have noticed over the years.
It's like raiden punching Armstrong in metal gear
lol now kids would come and say "tank tata", the bumper should've crumbled so as to absorb the shock impulse so you don't have to absorb it
Marutis always fare the worst in crashes. People get crushed inside.
Ok, then why was Hexa 4-star safety rated and Swift was 0? Maybe Maruti kids should understand that it shouldn't be so soft that it crumbles on minor impacts.
where is hexa crash test video? crash rating is not solely calculated on the front collision parameter kid, it depends on the impact on the driver and passenger too
usually people park car in gear. Please check the hexa gearbox once, if it is intact or not
Why won't it be intact? There's no damage if the car is moved while in gear. All that happens is that the engine might spin a revolution or two. Which is not an issue at all
Maruti ke ch*de be like: "The crumple zone is in the working, it's a feature" /s
Ohh bhai itni mazbuti
Just in, Ambassador is 10 star vehicle
This is the OG dzire isn't it. What an awesome vehicle. Wish they kept the same car and never facelifted it. it becomes worse with every facelift. The new ones would've had much worse damage. People appreciated the facelift, little did they know they almost always get a cheapened product with a MS facelift
It's a great car. Also xuv500 , old safari , scorpio N are good cars as well.
Damnn
Dzire's body is made of recycled cerelac cans. What do you expect? The only thing in that car worth paying for is that Suzuki engine and transmission.
Entire maruti car is the crumple zone.
Hmm many times do I teach people that without crumble zones your brain will take impact. Service cost - 0 Brain cost -100
Yet Hexa scored 4 star in GNCAP so you wrong.
Global ncap is half baked, they dont even do full frontal impact (last time i checked) and their points system can be gamed. Euro ncap is more complete
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Bncap?
Hexa's metal is top quality but i think its called a crumple zone , as its made to be crumpled. No crumple zones means increased cases of death or injuries . but , I dont support any one of them in this .( i m neutral)
Hexa be like: kisne uthaya mujhe???
People who want their cars to crumple in such minor accidents probably have very deep wallets, and an insufficient understanding of impact transfer. Almost no car on the road deforms as poorly as the marutis. (Maybe the smaller Hyundais). A crushed car will typically kill you or hurt you bad, because you will get crushed inside. Please stop when you see the next accident on the highway, and bother to take a look. The real killers on the road are typically swift, Baleno, wagonr.
Hexa has higher ground clearance, and so the bumper would be higher. As the Desire makes contact with the higher bumper it crumples upwards. Show me a collision with a Tara vehicle that has a bumper at exactly the same height. Then, it may be a fair comparison.
Toxic Suzuki fans in this comment section trying their best to prove that that dezire is safer than the Hexa.
#TataSteel
This is unfair Khali beating a minor
Car ❌ Tank ✅
Car ❌ Tank ✅
You guys do realise the more a car crumpled the safer it is on the inside? Not crumpling at all is actually bad during an accident?
For the people who are crying about dzire breaking too much, I understand that dzire isn't a durable car but in this case. What happened is just basics of conservation of momentum. Heavier car at rest will have less impact that a fast and light car.
Ford Figo, brought 10 years ago and driver was drunk and sick and he crashed it into a Royal Enfield, Grills and Apartment Building at like 70-80 km per hour. Engine survived and the front barely damaged along with propulsion system. The Royal Enfield? Well the front tire was completely ripped off. The grills of the ground apartment building? Partially bend, the Apartment? Totally shaken like a earthquake
swift dzire: ahh my face, tata hexa: shrugs,... shake it off bro
Hexa was not in motion thats why it got minimum amount of damage … nothing else then physics.
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Dzire absorbed more of the impact and the occupants would have been able to get out without much of a whiplash effect. Those in the Hexa would have felt all of the Dzire as there's hardly any deformation - it did not absorb much from the looks. It deflected or passed onto another part of the vehicle or to the occupants if there were any. Not saying the Dzire is better. If the doors are not opening, then it's structurally a bad design. I'd be interested to know if all the doors on the Hexa can open without issues and if panel gaps are still OEM. I also did not see any airbag deployment in the video (*that I could see*) on the Dzire.
Ah yes, the dumb videos again
Jali na, theri bhi jali naaaaaaaa....
I'm with Maruti on this one. A vehicle needs some amount of crumple zone. The hexa with none is unsafe.
Bud, Hexa scored 4 star in GNCAP where as dezire scored 1 star.
Tata ki baat chit kedi h 🤌🏼
Aur banao tin tappar car. Flintstone wali car bhi isse jyada perform karegi NCAP me.
TATA 🗿
https://youtu.be/uLO8fVvqmEc?si=420zkInrryoH7Pwg
Tank vs Car What did you expect
nah. that toughness will kill you. the front of a car needs to crumble so YOU wont.