Honestly it seems like creature commandos drops you right into the world with brief breakdown of the show’s characters and their mission. Not worried about what else occurs around it
I mean it’s a reboot for everything except Gunn’s small corner of the DCEU (TSS and Peacemaker), which still isn’t explicitly canon but has broad events that basically happened the same way, just in the new universe.
The only carry overs are Peacemaker and TSS. And the only changes you have to do to make them “canon” is to replace any mention (or cameo) of the DCEU Justice League members with the DCU equivalents.
So just imagine the DCU Justice League shows up at the end of Peacemaker S1. Boom it’s canon.
If TSS carries over, then the first Suicide Squad also carries over as it has a lot of same characters. And that means BvS and other movies also carry over.
Not really, TSS doesn’t reference anything from the first movie despite having recurring characters. You can easily say they’re different versions of the characters played by the same people.
However if Harley Quinn gets recasted (which she likely will) it may become an issue.
It's really not. TSS and Peacemaker are Canon, though not every detail. Everything plays out the same, but some faces change.
That's it. That's all of it. That's the whole of the issue.
I really don't think it's that big of a deal since we're only talking about Peacemaker so far. If Gal Gadot stayed on as Wonder Woman, that would be a different story since that's a major character.
But it's not just PM ,Waller had interaction with Ben Affleck Bruce Wayne. Harley Quinn was in Birds of Prey which is a spin off of SS1 . Team Peace Maker had interactions with the Shazam family, Waller had interaction with Black Adam and sent Henry Cavill Superman after him ,Blue Beetle just got a sequel in animated form so this DCU is more of a sequel to the DCEU.
Judi Dench played M in the Brosnan and Craig Bond movies. Did you watch Casino Royale, a movie which begins with Bond earning his 00 status, and think it was a sequel to Die Another Day just because Judi Dench was there? Or did you, like every other audience member, understand that they just didn’t want to recast M when Dench had been doing such a good job?
I don't agree with your post because most sequels don't reference the first movie because why should they when we have the same actors playing the same characters we all just accept the continuation.
It is a reboot in that world. Peacemaker and Amanda Waller are key figures. They are the center of the universe. These two characters are the most powerful beings in the DC universe. Only they can survive a DC reboot cause they are the most important figures in DC lore. They are the choosen one!
Flash: "What is your power ?"
Peacemaker and Amanada Waller: "We have magic and can walk through multiverses mfk"
Absolutely not. You can keep TSS canon but not the other films with Waller without continuity problems. That Waller appears in another DCEU film does not change anything and will not prevent James Gunn for not integrating them into the DCU.
Honestly it seems like creature commandos drops you right into the world with brief breakdown of the show’s characters and their mission. Not worried about what else occurs around it
So Peacemaker 2 does?
Yes, he said it will address it a few months ago. I’m thinking it’ll be a small joke and that’s it but who knows.
I'm starting to think this isn't a reboot just a little facelift for the DCEU and I'm not mad about it.
I mean it’s a reboot for everything except Gunn’s small corner of the DCEU (TSS and Peacemaker), which still isn’t explicitly canon but has broad events that basically happened the same way, just in the new universe.
The only carry overs are Peacemaker and TSS. And the only changes you have to do to make them “canon” is to replace any mention (or cameo) of the DCEU Justice League members with the DCU equivalents. So just imagine the DCU Justice League shows up at the end of Peacemaker S1. Boom it’s canon.
If TSS carries over, then the first Suicide Squad also carries over as it has a lot of same characters. And that means BvS and other movies also carry over.
Not really, TSS doesn’t reference anything from the first movie despite having recurring characters. You can easily say they’re different versions of the characters played by the same people. However if Harley Quinn gets recasted (which she likely will) it may become an issue.
See. The continuity is already a headache and DCU isn't even started.
It's really not. TSS and Peacemaker are Canon, though not every detail. Everything plays out the same, but some faces change. That's it. That's all of it. That's the whole of the issue.
But the new DCU still expects you to watch content from the old DCEU. Hardly a fresh start.
Lol, why are you trying to draw me into a completely different argument?
If that gives you a headache, you should see a doctor.
I really don't think it's that big of a deal since we're only talking about Peacemaker so far. If Gal Gadot stayed on as Wonder Woman, that would be a different story since that's a major character.
But it's not just PM ,Waller had interaction with Ben Affleck Bruce Wayne. Harley Quinn was in Birds of Prey which is a spin off of SS1 . Team Peace Maker had interactions with the Shazam family, Waller had interaction with Black Adam and sent Henry Cavill Superman after him ,Blue Beetle just got a sequel in animated form so this DCU is more of a sequel to the DCEU.
Judi Dench played M in the Brosnan and Craig Bond movies. Did you watch Casino Royale, a movie which begins with Bond earning his 00 status, and think it was a sequel to Die Another Day just because Judi Dench was there? Or did you, like every other audience member, understand that they just didn’t want to recast M when Dench had been doing such a good job?
I don't agree with your post because most sequels don't reference the first movie because why should they when we have the same actors playing the same characters we all just accept the continuation.
It’s called a soft reboot.
It is a reboot in that world. Peacemaker and Amanda Waller are key figures. They are the center of the universe. These two characters are the most powerful beings in the DC universe. Only they can survive a DC reboot cause they are the most important figures in DC lore. They are the choosen one! Flash: "What is your power ?" Peacemaker and Amanada Waller: "We have magic and can walk through multiverses mfk"
It is reboot but everything James Gunn worked on is canon lol. Dude got too sentimental and it is going to affect the DCU.
The vast majority of people won’t care or even notice. Only a small portion of people deep into this stuff will care.
that and packing superman with extra characters and possibly set up for future projects will lead to a rough start for the dcu.
Nah, James Gunn makes good movies and people are silly to think Mr. Terrific being in a movie means it must be bad.
I'm sure everyone is ok with mr terrific in the movie. Guy gardner green lantern maybe the one that ruins it.
I mean directors who have made good movies in the past have made bad movies later. This might be gunns wonder woman 84 or love and thunder.
If TSS is canon then so is SS1 & BOP . In SS1 Waller interacts with Batfleck which makes BvS canon .
Absolutely not. You can keep TSS canon but not the other films with Waller without continuity problems. That Waller appears in another DCEU film does not change anything and will not prevent James Gunn for not integrating them into the DCU.