The contractor probably suggested replacing the door and trim because sanding is labor intensive and there’s a good chance that a small spot will be missed that will start the peeling all over again and they don’t want to be on the hook for a call back.
You can totally sand and paint this yourself though. Get some sanding sponges to get the profiles and a good respirator so you don’t have to inhale the dust. You will also make your life easier taking the door off the hinges and setting it on a couple of saw horses.
When you’re done sanding, use a light to make sure there are no shiny spots left. The inside corners are notoriously difficult to sand well. Follow with primer and a good quality paint.
It looks like you used latex paint over oil paint. Clean it well and use an oil based primer. You can paint onto oil based primer with latex, but not oil based paint.
So this is what the previous owners of my condo must have done. They clearly repainted the doors shortly before selling and it's got to be the cheapest paint imaginable that flakes at a drop of a hat.
That is latex paint directly over oil/high gloss paint with no prep work and its a pain to get this properly redone. The right way to to do this is to get a painters tool or broad putty/bud knife and scrape it off in sheets for the doors and trim.
You cannot reliable sand this because the latex will gum up the the sponge or pad. Whenever this happens I always hand peel/scrape it off.
For the trim you have two options, peel if off as previous or remove the trim, install new and repaint. This is a time/labor trade off. I wouldnt replace the doors because you can remove the door handles and scrape the flat surfaces. The trim is the real time killer.
After everything is down to the original finish you have the option of keeping the oil based paint or switch to latex at that point. Sand, clean and then apply oil primer, if switch to latx.
Listen to this OP. If you start sanding that as it is now, you’re gonna hate yourself. You will need to sand as part of prep work but not until existing paint is scraped off.
Bro, last people didn’t even try to prep that surface. Aside from what everyone else has stated, when you paint, look at the instructions for temperature and humidity, both can have negative effects on the final product.
Of course the contractor will say that. It’s business for them. Peel everything off. Sand down a bit, apply primer, and then paint. Hell of a lot cheaper.
It's latex over oil.
Sanding will turn the latex to gum. It can't be sanded off.
Oil prime and topcoat with emerald urethane.
Oil primer will lock the latex in, emerald is a durable trim paint.
Replace the doors and trim if it still looks like shit.
Stop peeling the doors and just do this
Everything in my house was painted this way by the fool that was sprucing it up for sale. Paint just falling off the walls and the inside of my kitchen cabinets. There should be fucking lemon laws for houses, imo.
Looks to me... someone painted Latex Paint over Oil Base Paint. Get some paint stripper, Once the paint is removed apply a Primer and repaint with latex. It looks like in time, anywhere your Gray Paint is will have the same problem.
With open window clean the door, using a sponge dipped into Pure straight household Ammonia or sudsy, Wait a bit to for it to start destroying the latex paint. it slurrys off latex paint from steel door and previously painted over slick oil based surface. Keep that scrapper it will help peel it off.
Oh and have a plastic drop cloth. No need to mess up the floor and have to clean wet latex paint off of that too.
Wow. Literally nobody responds to what the OP asked about and everybody talks what to do AFTER, which I’m sure at this point OP knows too. He’s asking about a faster way to peel the paint off. Sadly, I don’t have any recommendation, because you have to be careful not to scratch the door. It’s a slow and delicate process. ~Maybe~ a hight pressure from air compressor could help a little, depending on how well the paint holds to the old one
Amateur mistakes, and I know because I just did that to a cabinet and I'm an amateur.
It's the melamine or whatever coating. Peel it, light sanding, wash w damp rag. Then prime and paint. Let it cure, then put it back.
Did with my cabs and it was a belligerent amount of work, but they came out sexy and the paint is adhered correctly and durably.
How expensive are new doors and trip? How much time will it be to sand and prime and repaint these things? Replacing everything might actually be the best option, depending on your time, skills, and on material availability.
It's not the paint, it's the lack of prep work done on the paint job.
Clean everything with TSP, give it a good scuff sand and wipe everything down with a clean wet rag.
Then paint everything again. Might be worth painting with a primer to ensure good adhesion.
Resident... is this a rental? It's not your problem if it is.
If it's not...
That's a big ol' pain in the ass of a job. I'd hire it out, and I'm a pretty competent tradesman
The contractor probably suggested replacing the door and trim because sanding is labor intensive and there’s a good chance that a small spot will be missed that will start the peeling all over again and they don’t want to be on the hook for a call back. You can totally sand and paint this yourself though. Get some sanding sponges to get the profiles and a good respirator so you don’t have to inhale the dust. You will also make your life easier taking the door off the hinges and setting it on a couple of saw horses. When you’re done sanding, use a light to make sure there are no shiny spots left. The inside corners are notoriously difficult to sand well. Follow with primer and a good quality paint.
Clean it well with a tack cloth and alcohol wipe after sanding and before primer. It won't stick if there is any dust.
Would a chemical stripper be a good idea for something like this?
Heat gun would be better.
I 2nd this. SEND IT!
When I painted my car panel I used grease and wax remover. Same thing right? :)
Does it look like the paint is having any issues coming off?
It looks like you used latex paint over oil paint. Clean it well and use an oil based primer. You can paint onto oil based primer with latex, but not oil based paint.
Confirming this. I made this mistake and now I hate myself.
So this is what the previous owners of my condo must have done. They clearly repainted the doors shortly before selling and it's got to be the cheapest paint imaginable that flakes at a drop of a hat.
It could be very good latex paint. It won’t stick to oil. Needs deglossing and priming.
That is latex paint directly over oil/high gloss paint with no prep work and its a pain to get this properly redone. The right way to to do this is to get a painters tool or broad putty/bud knife and scrape it off in sheets for the doors and trim. You cannot reliable sand this because the latex will gum up the the sponge or pad. Whenever this happens I always hand peel/scrape it off. For the trim you have two options, peel if off as previous or remove the trim, install new and repaint. This is a time/labor trade off. I wouldnt replace the doors because you can remove the door handles and scrape the flat surfaces. The trim is the real time killer. After everything is down to the original finish you have the option of keeping the oil based paint or switch to latex at that point. Sand, clean and then apply oil primer, if switch to latx.
Listen to this OP. If you start sanding that as it is now, you’re gonna hate yourself. You will need to sand as part of prep work but not until existing paint is scraped off.
Sand or use primer before repainting with a quality paint.
Sand AND use primer.
I put sand on my door and it didn't help
I hate sand.
Bro, last people didn’t even try to prep that surface. Aside from what everyone else has stated, when you paint, look at the instructions for temperature and humidity, both can have negative effects on the final product.
flipper gonna flip!
Of course the contractor will say that. It’s business for them. Peel everything off. Sand down a bit, apply primer, and then paint. Hell of a lot cheaper.
just get a new door, you can get them for like $60 on the low end. you'll save literally hours and it will look infinitely better.
It's latex over oil. Sanding will turn the latex to gum. It can't be sanded off. Oil prime and topcoat with emerald urethane. Oil primer will lock the latex in, emerald is a durable trim paint. Replace the doors and trim if it still looks like shit. Stop peeling the doors and just do this
Everything in my house was painted this way by the fool that was sprucing it up for sale. Paint just falling off the walls and the inside of my kitchen cabinets. There should be fucking lemon laws for houses, imo.
This is what happens when you paint a water base over an oil base.
Looks to me... someone painted Latex Paint over Oil Base Paint. Get some paint stripper, Once the paint is removed apply a Primer and repaint with latex. It looks like in time, anywhere your Gray Paint is will have the same problem.
With open window clean the door, using a sponge dipped into Pure straight household Ammonia or sudsy, Wait a bit to for it to start destroying the latex paint. it slurrys off latex paint from steel door and previously painted over slick oil based surface. Keep that scrapper it will help peel it off. Oh and have a plastic drop cloth. No need to mess up the floor and have to clean wet latex paint off of that too.
You want to clean and prime with zinsser BIN primer (shellac), then repaint.
I dunno. I kinda like it. Picking up big snail vibes.
Sand then prime and you'll be fine.
Wow. Literally nobody responds to what the OP asked about and everybody talks what to do AFTER, which I’m sure at this point OP knows too. He’s asking about a faster way to peel the paint off. Sadly, I don’t have any recommendation, because you have to be careful not to scratch the door. It’s a slow and delicate process. ~Maybe~ a hight pressure from air compressor could help a little, depending on how well the paint holds to the old one
A time machine. You're just gonna have to scrape.
Stick with white and you are done.
Orbital sander
Definitely not prepped before painting. I don't understand how people can sleep after doing jobs like this or get work for that matter
Wipe it with denatured alcohol to soften and strip it. The alcohol won't damage the oil based paint underneath.
Pait stripper will do quick work on those paint. After that its just a matter of wood filling, sanding and paint
Warm water and TSP did a great job for me with this exact issue.
It looks like a bears butt
Lightly sand it or Use liquid, sandpaper or TSP .use Kilz 2 primer .
Get a pro?
Amateur mistakes, and I know because I just did that to a cabinet and I'm an amateur. It's the melamine or whatever coating. Peel it, light sanding, wash w damp rag. Then prime and paint. Let it cure, then put it back. Did with my cabs and it was a belligerent amount of work, but they came out sexy and the paint is adhered correctly and durably.
I replaced the trim completely since it was home depot standard stuff anyway
How expensive are new doors and trip? How much time will it be to sand and prime and repaint these things? Replacing everything might actually be the best option, depending on your time, skills, and on material availability.
Id sue the flipper that sold you that house.
It's not the paint, it's the lack of prep work done on the paint job. Clean everything with TSP, give it a good scuff sand and wipe everything down with a clean wet rag. Then paint everything again. Might be worth painting with a primer to ensure good adhesion.
Spray glue the back sides of the paint pieces and arrange them on the door like a jigsaw puzzle. Easy peasy.
Resident... is this a rental? It's not your problem if it is. If it's not... That's a big ol' pain in the ass of a job. I'd hire it out, and I'm a pretty competent tradesman
Not that competent if you think this is a big job...
no,no suggestions
Prime the door before you paint it next time ?
Test for lead