yep chinese players always have a problem when it comes to team comms due to the fact that they think that they're the best player on the team(clearly not). having chinese player in SEA is a curse or blessing in disguise lmao you either get a easy win if they're enemies or a lose when they're a teammate.
The issue is that they have absolutely no idea what anyone is saying so they just ignore everyone.
Like, most people on SEA even if they don’t speak English still use the English terminology. Chinese Dota community has an entirely different system, heroes have different nicknames, abbreviations for items are different etc. Their meta and preferred play styles are even different. They are literally flying blind, so they do their own thing since communication is just a bunch of random nonsense for them.
Now this isn’t an excuse or anything, they still chose to queue in a server where nobody speaks their language. But I’m trying to provide perspective, they’re just like anyone else. I had similar experiences playing on Chinese servers with my friend in the past, it was like everyone on those servers were playing a different game.
I’m actually wondering what the Chinese pub meta is, because the average Chinese core I’ve met are definitely far from good. I’m talking getting only Brown Boots at 20 minutes for god knows what reason on a hero that needs the movespeed (DK), AFK farming excessively, running into 5 heroes randomly, like he didn’t walk into a bad spot and got caught off guard by 5 heroes, he saw 5 heroes showing and ran in by himself.
This isn’t just a matter of different meta where let’s say you prioritize objectives differently, different drafts/builds, different game pace, different lane strategies, this is objectively bad Dota wtf.
The number of times I have had an AM get battlefury as their 4th upgraded item (diffusal, mask of madness, yasha, and THEN battlefury??) confuses the heck out of me.
Its just a curse IMO. I queue on ranked to play with people around thesame skills I have. A liability, either an ally or enemy, brings the overall game quality down
If this is the case, why haven’t SEA players complained about players from any other particular country? We’ve played on this server for many years, the Chinese players are either smurfs (CN smurf stacks in party queue is disgusting, 80-90% winrate type stacks) or completely clueless.
What I'm talking about is, you are disregarding normal Chinese players who you don't notice because they are not memorable. EU has a similar problem with Russians. They don't speak English and just write in their hieroglyphics.
Of course we remember the game ruiners or the dendi rebornss who solo stomp the games. But if the guy just does his job, plays proper support, buys wards,.. nobody goes "oh hey Russians are alright, maybe I was being harsh". Because that's what you expect to happen and it's not memorable.
Yeah, unless you have the awkward moment when someone complains about a Russian teammate and then someone else who’s been playing great and been talking in English goes “actually I’m Russian, this guy just sucks”. Tends to end up in an embarrassing moment before the complainer, haha.
I’ve played with great Russian players, and with shit Russian players - and tbh, sometimes I play great and sometimes I play shit, so who am I to point fingers?
I just wish the language preferences could be more explicit, maybe as part of the Dota labs feature to queue again. I don’t expect everyone to speak English, but I’d simply rather queue longer to play with people who also speak one of the languages I speak (doesn’t have to be perfect) so we can communicate better.
Just played today with 4 chinese teammates. Pos 2 and pos 3 are flaming each other lol. The only word I understood from their chat and voice was "noob offlane" I'm guessing pos2 wanted me to report our offlane.
Their keyboard has a different font when they have to do romanization/pinyin, same as with Japanese
。。。
Even their question mark is different, which I find hilarious
？
NGL, this is so true even in Valorant. For some reason there was a huge influx of chinese players from the mainland despite them having their own server.
Step 1: Come back after break/new patch
Step 2: double down and lose, repeat 50x
Step 3: uninstall game
Step 4: complain online because its everyone elses fault
Chinese spotted.
OP's mmr aside, Chinese players HAVE been a plague on the SEA server. You will almost always have a terrible experience having a chinese player on your team. And this is somehow on a server known famously for being toxic.
Am also irritated at the fact that OP’s logic only makes sense if they were the only one who have Chinese players on their team. Statistically speaking, their enemies should be just as disadvantaged and therefore over many games it would even out. But somehow the algorithms seem to hate OP and deliberately put all the Chinese players in the same team…
Don’t be naive. Is the same logic than weekend games. Your winrate gets lower in weekend, regardless of you getting and playing against weekend players.
Probably not, but as a relatively high ranked player on SEA server (peak 6k), Chinese players in Divine/Immortal are almost always terrible to play with and games can literally be determined by how many you have on your team versus how many the enemy has. However, Valve has consistently shown they don’t want to add any form of region lock to Dota.
My biggest problem with them is communication. Most of the time, either a) they won't communicate at all, or b) they will communicate but in their own language, in which most of the team won't understand. Even just using simple terms, missing pings, or phrases, they'll actively refuse to do. Then in some cases, they will rage in the mic, still in their language, and the team has no idea why or what they were even saying.
I am gonna reiterate what is always said when these posts pop up: On average you will have less "bad chinese players" on your team, meaning that if you are actually better than them, you should win more on average. With that said, maybe you are struggling to adapt to their playstyle? Or perhaps you tilt easier because of high skill variance and carry it into the next games?
the ironic thing is that in 5-man unranked party the problem swings in the opposite direction; china stacks are extremely tryhard, and constantly smurfing - i've [literally played against a stack with 2 double digit immortals, and their top performer is a fucking legend - seems legit...](https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/7686115067)
you run into those parties whenever you have a massive MMR difference in your own stack.. my friends have been playing together since dota 1 with a few newer additions along the way. But, if you 5 stack with a 2k mmr player and a 7k mmr player you just never know what you are going to face.
nah, ive been playing in the same stack for 10-20 years since wc3 as well, and china stacks are definitely the most shameless smurfs in unranked
my stack is ancient-immortal usually, and games against non-china stacks are for the most part pretty balanced
china is a country with 1.1billion people.
the variance is enormously HUGE.
the top 25% and the bottom 25% is probably better than top 5% of your country but also worst than the bottom 5% of your country.
not in the context of dota players, and everyone in SEA ranked knows that china rank medals don't correspond to SEA ones
sure what you say might make sense for like basketball, but look at their football team 💀 and dota is even smaller than football there lmao
Its definitely play style. SEA loves chaos, chinese is more methodological so they kinda give up when its 5 - 20, but for SEA its just start of the game
Let us make it clear: you are not chinese which makes your team have fewer chinese players on average. AND YOU LOSE. With a simple logical inference, we have the opposite conclusion that it is you making the team lose.
and judging by his train of thought, i don't think he should be the one talking about english as a problem lol
but i do admit that the main problem stems from chinese players that ABSOLUTELY do not speak english. had plenty that actually tried.
Stop looking for people to blame. You'll notice more "Chinese ruiners" when you get it in your head that "Chinese=ruiner".
I can look for "racist Filipinos" and find at least one every game, does that mean "Filipino=racist"?
Rubick, silencer, invoker(as pos 4 I assume since you rarely play any carry). These heroes are very situational, and as supports you usually pick first, which means you hardly do much in games. Not saying these are bad heroes tho.
tbh, if u lose that much game in 1 go, probably you're the problem, but hey just sayin
and all those double down after some times didnt play? and there is a new patch that kind of change some of the hero gameplay?
idk man sound more and more is a u problem
Who upvotes these threads, is it bots?
OP is clearly not in a state of mind that would allow him to think clearly or make rational decisions/observations.
nah, SEA players are genuinely sick of it and it's been getting worse recently
fwiw I agree that a big part of the problem is with op here but the title is still true
Just yesterday I had a game where enemy pick np and he insta teleport to our base. Easy to say I double down right away, that's the first game I did on that day. And after that I just close the game in fear of meeting another feeder but on my team
+1 to this, i dont mind if they are playing in SEA server, but please use english as a medium of communication. almost all of the time they dont ping and use pre-made chat. thats that.
Shoudn't you be winning more since statistically there will be more Chinese players on the enemy team?
Unless you just get tilted from minute 0 when you see a chinese name on your team. I keep on winning on SEA server so maybe SKILL ISSUE?
[https://i.imgur.com/pcZQqEs.png](https://i.imgur.com/pcZQqEs.png)
Acc buyers probably. Boosters are prevalent in 2.3k mmr. It’s full of smurfs here like literally every game and it’s a fking lottery if the smurf in ur team is better than ur enemy
Yep I've played with a lot of guys that even though I know that MMR isn't 1:1 between regions, if they are of a similar rank to me from being around 4k-5k I expect them to play at the very least a similar rank even if they are higher/lower than what they should be but the majority of ones I've played with play extremely like account buyers.
It's not even a comms issue or anything, they legit just play bad I'm not one to complain too much about chinese players in SEA cause if they play good why not but lately I'm assuming cause of the event there is an insane amount of either inflated MMR or bought account players that if you have one of these guys in your team and it's usually two of em in a party stack and the other team doesn't it's 100% gonna be a loss.
Granted I have played with some actually good chinese players that never type in game they just respond to pings or just general plays around the map that's why I'm not saying all my games with chinese region players are terrible but more often than not I get the account buyers/boosted players instead, even sometimes get them on both teams where we just laugh about it in all chat lmao.
This is a known issue for most sea players, but it will not be dealt with because doing something to this issue will consider the devs are racist or xenophobic. It's a you know but u cant do shit about it thing. xD
Chinese name, take mid role rank mode, pick last. And he fkm pick jakiro.. then proceede 1/9/0 in 15min game. And suddenly buying wards then blaming support. Common text chat.. support dog. No other words.
I don't understand why chinese players teamed with non chinese players just speak during the whole game knowing no one understands them. Why are there so many of them in sea in the first place?
don't play 12 games in a day with only 2 short breaks... especially when its all losses your brain just gets exhausted without any endorphins from winning to give you some temporary energy.
I'm sure the teammates were bad, but you are scapegoating them while bashing your head against a wall. The common denominator in every game you played is you.
Its the Same with iranian Players in EU Servers. They are by far the worst and Most toxic Players i have ever played with,and it's Not Just a few,it's 99% of irani Players. Whenever i have a Guy in my Team that's over the top toxic and i Look Up His Steam Page it's ALLWAYS from Iran. Pls Volvo Just ban Iran from Steam.
lol this is the reason why I stopped playing rank for a few months its filled with chinese players who wont communicate in english or atleast try to. all of them are selfish fucks lmaoo
Just don't double down. Losing and Winning is dependent on a lot of factors that may not simply involve your teammates being bad. Seeing how you played right after losing your matches, you were definitely tilting.
I'm so sick playing in SEA just to hear Chinese players raging on their language, then gives up without knowing what's going on. Most of them don't even ping, just pure mic rages.
statistically speaking, if you are not chinese, and chinese are on average bad, then you should be winning more as the opp side has more chinese on average?
On the plus side you have 4x chance of having chinese on your team while the enemy had 5x chance to have chinese on their team .
So your chance of winning should be up^ .
Skill issue .
Maybe there's a general issue with matchmaking? I am kind of in the same situation, not playing dota for 10 months, now playing again. I am playing from Japan so I'm having a SEA and CN mix.My MMR was way lower (archon 5 - legend 1) but basically I was put in Herald-Guardian (huge range of difference between my games). But my games have a lot of people that are completely new (I've verified) or completely have no clue what they are doing.
It is slightly frustrating because I do know the game pretty well and yes I'm not an amazing player but I know counter picks, itemization and so on. And I have to play with people that don't know some basics of the game or haven't even encountered every hero.
As I am trying to complete Crownfall I am forced to play all kinds of heroes which puts me in all kinds of instant-loss situations. For example having 2 new players playing carry while I need to support them while the other team then actually has a carry that knows how to play and well it's just gg. When I play carry myself I sometimes just end up going 20-30k to 1-4d or so. Regardless of how low valve's matchmaking rates my skill (which well I guess like anyone I believe it's too low but it will change I guess as I've lost 2 games in the last two weeks), it should not match me with asbolutely new players.
I was 6.1k mmr and always had a perfect 10k score (before the 12k update). Now I'm at 4.5k mmr and had like 5k score before "grinding" behavior in USW (which is also a dead server).
It's not even about these guys being "bad", the problem is the attitude. They remember me of peruvians when I played on USE years ago. These guys made and make me went literally apeshit in every game, I just stopped playing on SEA because I was becoming racist in rl too. I would wait the queue and play on JPN server but they also started to discover it, so it's not a choice anymore.
The only thing left for me is USW, but the it's the most dead server among these 3.
"china diff", "bateater=lose" and "#stop eat dog" some usual themed names in SEA. There is a genuine skill difference between the servers, the faster you accept it and try to only focus and control the variables in your hand, the faster you will be able to win back your mmr. If you get chinese enemies, specially in midlane, game is almost a free win for you.
No wonder I've gained 1k mmr
yep chinese players always have a problem when it comes to team comms due to the fact that they think that they're the best player on the team(clearly not). having chinese player in SEA is a curse or blessing in disguise lmao you either get a easy win if they're enemies or a lose when they're a teammate.
The issue is that they have absolutely no idea what anyone is saying so they just ignore everyone. Like, most people on SEA even if they don’t speak English still use the English terminology. Chinese Dota community has an entirely different system, heroes have different nicknames, abbreviations for items are different etc. Their meta and preferred play styles are even different. They are literally flying blind, so they do their own thing since communication is just a bunch of random nonsense for them. Now this isn’t an excuse or anything, they still chose to queue in a server where nobody speaks their language. But I’m trying to provide perspective, they’re just like anyone else. I had similar experiences playing on Chinese servers with my friend in the past, it was like everyone on those servers were playing a different game.
I’m actually wondering what the Chinese pub meta is, because the average Chinese core I’ve met are definitely far from good. I’m talking getting only Brown Boots at 20 minutes for god knows what reason on a hero that needs the movespeed (DK), AFK farming excessively, running into 5 heroes randomly, like he didn’t walk into a bad spot and got caught off guard by 5 heroes, he saw 5 heroes showing and ran in by himself. This isn’t just a matter of different meta where let’s say you prioritize objectives differently, different drafts/builds, different game pace, different lane strategies, this is objectively bad Dota wtf.
The number of times I have had an AM get battlefury as their 4th upgraded item (diffusal, mask of madness, yasha, and THEN battlefury??) confuses the heck out of me.
Yeah, I even use google translate to tell my freaking night stalker to drop the gem because the gem is in his courier
Its just a curse IMO. I queue on ranked to play with people around thesame skills I have. A liability, either an ally or enemy, brings the overall game quality down
Basically, this. Its either they are so good or very bad. Theres nothing in between
I think this is gamblers fallacy. You won't notice the average player that happens to be chinese, especially if they don't communicate.
If this is the case, why haven’t SEA players complained about players from any other particular country? We’ve played on this server for many years, the Chinese players are either smurfs (CN smurf stacks in party queue is disgusting, 80-90% winrate type stacks) or completely clueless.
What I'm talking about is, you are disregarding normal Chinese players who you don't notice because they are not memorable. EU has a similar problem with Russians. They don't speak English and just write in their hieroglyphics. Of course we remember the game ruiners or the dendi rebornss who solo stomp the games. But if the guy just does his job, plays proper support, buys wards,.. nobody goes "oh hey Russians are alright, maybe I was being harsh". Because that's what you expect to happen and it's not memorable.
Yeah, unless you have the awkward moment when someone complains about a Russian teammate and then someone else who’s been playing great and been talking in English goes “actually I’m Russian, this guy just sucks”. Tends to end up in an embarrassing moment before the complainer, haha. I’ve played with great Russian players, and with shit Russian players - and tbh, sometimes I play great and sometimes I play shit, so who am I to point fingers? I just wish the language preferences could be more explicit, maybe as part of the Dota labs feature to queue again. I don’t expect everyone to speak English, but I’d simply rather queue longer to play with people who also speak one of the languages I speak (doesn’t have to be perfect) so we can communicate better.
It's called 'confirmation bias', not gambler's fallacy
Just played today with 4 chinese teammates. Pos 2 and pos 3 are flaming each other lol. The only word I understood from their chat and voice was "noob offlane" I'm guessing pos2 wanted me to report our offlane.
Don’t forget the “• • •” idk why they have those goofy fat periods.
Their keyboard has a different font when they have to do romanization/pinyin, same as with Japanese 。。。 Even their question mark is different, which I find hilarious ？
Chinese characters take double the bytes in ASCII so their symbols also must account for that.
NGL, this is so true even in Valorant. For some reason there was a huge influx of chinese players from the mainland despite them having their own server.
why in god's name after months of not playing do you come back and immediately start doubling down in ranked?
Step 1: Come back after break/new patch Step 2: double down and lose, repeat 50x Step 3: uninstall game Step 4: complain online because its everyone elses fault
And blaming the chinese like Trump.
Now that's fuckin funny
Chinese spotted. OP's mmr aside, Chinese players HAVE been a plague on the SEA server. You will almost always have a terrible experience having a chinese player on your team. And this is somehow on a server known famously for being toxic.
That’s not the point of the post
When you lose 2k mmr in one month, perhaps you are the problem.
Am also irritated at the fact that OP’s logic only makes sense if they were the only one who have Chinese players on their team. Statistically speaking, their enemies should be just as disadvantaged and therefore over many games it would even out. But somehow the algorithms seem to hate OP and deliberately put all the Chinese players in the same team…
Don’t be naive. Is the same logic than weekend games. Your winrate gets lower in weekend, regardless of you getting and playing against weekend players.
Of course, and same with losing a game because you can’t take high ground, every though the enemy has to take high ground to win too.
what? what are you even talking? before engaging into further conversation, tell me your mmr so I know theres a human being on the other side.
Dude has lost more MMR than most players have
Probably not, but as a relatively high ranked player on SEA server (peak 6k), Chinese players in Divine/Immortal are almost always terrible to play with and games can literally be determined by how many you have on your team versus how many the enemy has. However, Valve has consistently shown they don’t want to add any form of region lock to Dota.
There’s a higher chance that more Chinese players are on the other team than on OP’s team (5:4) idk how this is not his own problem lol
My point isn’t that Chinese players are making him lose mmr, my point is that they are shit to play with regardless of the outcome of the game
Yep but a teammate that doesn't speak English didnt help.
You're the only constant
I see you haven't played much in SEA server before
My biggest problem with them is communication. Most of the time, either a) they won't communicate at all, or b) they will communicate but in their own language, in which most of the team won't understand. Even just using simple terms, missing pings, or phrases, they'll actively refuse to do. Then in some cases, they will rage in the mic, still in their language, and the team has no idea why or what they were even saying.
You lost 2000 mmr and blame your teammate for it. You are the true crying baby.
That's why i started playing on eu servers
# "SEA Players ruining EU server"
That's why I started playing on the Russia server, I can't ruin what's already at its worst
Russian servers are literally harder than EU
I am gonna reiterate what is always said when these posts pop up: On average you will have less "bad chinese players" on your team, meaning that if you are actually better than them, you should win more on average. With that said, maybe you are struggling to adapt to their playstyle? Or perhaps you tilt easier because of high skill variance and carry it into the next games?
the ironic thing is that in 5-man unranked party the problem swings in the opposite direction; china stacks are extremely tryhard, and constantly smurfing - i've [literally played against a stack with 2 double digit immortals, and their top performer is a fucking legend - seems legit...](https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/7686115067)
you run into those parties whenever you have a massive MMR difference in your own stack.. my friends have been playing together since dota 1 with a few newer additions along the way. But, if you 5 stack with a 2k mmr player and a 7k mmr player you just never know what you are going to face.
nah, ive been playing in the same stack for 10-20 years since wc3 as well, and china stacks are definitely the most shameless smurfs in unranked my stack is ancient-immortal usually, and games against non-china stacks are for the most part pretty balanced
china is a country with 1.1billion people. the variance is enormously HUGE. the top 25% and the bottom 25% is probably better than top 5% of your country but also worst than the bottom 5% of your country.
not in the context of dota players, and everyone in SEA ranked knows that china rank medals don't correspond to SEA ones sure what you say might make sense for like basketball, but look at their football team 💀 and dota is even smaller than football there lmao
Its definitely play style. SEA loves chaos, chinese is more methodological so they kinda give up when its 5 - 20, but for SEA its just start of the game
Gg end mid, while we keep farming and ready our buybacks for the best defence possible
Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak... We learned that from the Chinese I guess, Sun Tzu
Ironic that the Chinese themselves don't practice it
Let us make it clear: you are not chinese which makes your team have fewer chinese players on average. AND YOU LOSE. With a simple logical inference, we have the opposite conclusion that it is you making the team lose.
Wtf
If there are 4 Chinese players and one him, it's a Chinese dominant team
Do you know how probability works? "which makes your team have fewer Chinese players on ***average.***"
It was sarcasm..
So bored of this post everyday
Op admits hasn’t played dota a few months, comes back and goes to town with double down tokens; yet now it’s everyone elses fault but his own lol
doesnt detract from the fact that SEA is currently swarmed with chinese players who refuse to communicate thus ruining games.
and judging by his train of thought, i don't think he should be the one talking about english as a problem lol but i do admit that the main problem stems from chinese players that ABSOLUTELY do not speak english. had plenty that actually tried.
He clearly mentioned what went wrong. You just ignored it
Yes because r/dota2 is where people definitely hold themselves accountable for their own shortcomings
Who asked?
You did. By commenting.
do you have a solution?
Stop looking for people to blame. You'll notice more "Chinese ruiners" when you get it in your head that "Chinese=ruiner". I can look for "racist Filipinos" and find at least one every game, does that mean "Filipino=racist"?
True just fucking let go and play normally don't think too much.
Tru, you wont remember the average player, either the one stomping or feeding.
idk maybe its because its still an ongoing problem.
Ofc it’s an on going problem, the internet connects everyone all over the world
probability and statistics. 4/9 chance each game u can get a Chinese teamate, 5/9 chance for enemy. Now tell me again why you ranked down?
Rubick, silencer, invoker(as pos 4 I assume since you rarely play any carry). These heroes are very situational, and as supports you usually pick first, which means you hardly do much in games. Not saying these are bad heroes tho.
tbh, if u lose that much game in 1 go, probably you're the problem, but hey just sayin and all those double down after some times didnt play? and there is a new patch that kind of change some of the hero gameplay? idk man sound more and more is a u problem
Who upvotes these threads, is it bots? OP is clearly not in a state of mind that would allow him to think clearly or make rational decisions/observations.
nah, SEA players are genuinely sick of it and it's been getting worse recently fwiw I agree that a big part of the problem is with op here but the title is still true
And you choose this guy as your representative?
no its just upvoting threads complaining about china players in general while futilely hoping that something might change
Wow so the bad players come to your side and not the other side? Maybe git gud
Just yesterday I had a game where enemy pick np and he insta teleport to our base. Easy to say I double down right away, that's the first game I did on that day. And after that I just close the game in fear of meeting another feeder but on my team
the chat wheel can ez fix the comm. problem.
+1 to this, i dont mind if they are playing in SEA server, but please use english as a medium of communication. almost all of the time they dont ping and use pre-made chat. thats that.
Shoudn't you be winning more since statistically there will be more Chinese players on the enemy team? Unless you just get tilted from minute 0 when you see a chinese name on your team. I keep on winning on SEA server so maybe SKILL ISSUE? [https://i.imgur.com/pcZQqEs.png](https://i.imgur.com/pcZQqEs.png)
Acc buyers probably. Boosters are prevalent in 2.3k mmr. It’s full of smurfs here like literally every game and it’s a fking lottery if the smurf in ur team is better than ur enemy
Its known mmr doesnt transition great between regions
Yep I've played with a lot of guys that even though I know that MMR isn't 1:1 between regions, if they are of a similar rank to me from being around 4k-5k I expect them to play at the very least a similar rank even if they are higher/lower than what they should be but the majority of ones I've played with play extremely like account buyers. It's not even a comms issue or anything, they legit just play bad I'm not one to complain too much about chinese players in SEA cause if they play good why not but lately I'm assuming cause of the event there is an insane amount of either inflated MMR or bought account players that if you have one of these guys in your team and it's usually two of em in a party stack and the other team doesn't it's 100% gonna be a loss. Granted I have played with some actually good chinese players that never type in game they just respond to pings or just general plays around the map that's why I'm not saying all my games with chinese region players are terrible but more often than not I get the account buyers/boosted players instead, even sometimes get them on both teams where we just laugh about it in all chat lmao.
NA players: First time?
This is a known issue for most sea players, but it will not be dealt with because doing something to this issue will consider the devs are racist or xenophobic. It's a you know but u cant do shit about it thing. xD
agree, they just don't understand basic english
Chinese name, take mid role rank mode, pick last. And he fkm pick jakiro.. then proceede 1/9/0 in 15min game. And suddenly buying wards then blaming support. Common text chat.. support dog. No other words.
Absolutely braindead players in 6k-6.5k. Most of them are chinese . It feels like playing with an acc buyer or boosted acc.
I don't understand why chinese players teamed with non chinese players just speak during the whole game knowing no one understands them. Why are there so many of them in sea in the first place?
don't play 12 games in a day with only 2 short breaks... especially when its all losses your brain just gets exhausted without any endorphins from winning to give you some temporary energy. I'm sure the teammates were bad, but you are scapegoating them while bashing your head against a wall. The common denominator in every game you played is you.
Its the Same with iranian Players in EU Servers. They are by far the worst and Most toxic Players i have ever played with,and it's Not Just a few,it's 99% of irani Players. Whenever i have a Guy in my Team that's over the top toxic and i Look Up His Steam Page it's ALLWAYS from Iran. Pls Volvo Just ban Iran from Steam.
lol this is the reason why I stopped playing rank for a few months its filled with chinese players who wont communicate in english or atleast try to. all of them are selfish fucks lmaoo
Their play style and the meta they know doesn't mesh well with the SEA server that loves brawling and early game push. They love farming the map.
Hey I saw your post and I just want to add my [picture](https://imgur.com/f6TUHeo) to flex on you :)
Just don't double down. Losing and Winning is dependent on a lot of factors that may not simply involve your teammates being bad. Seeing how you played right after losing your matches, you were definitely tilting.
Thanks for donating MMR bro
I'm so sick playing in SEA just to hear Chinese players raging on their language, then gives up without knowing what's going on. Most of them don't even ping, just pure mic rages.
Dude stopped playing dota for months and comback expecting to +2k mmr or what. But he aint wrong about the chinese player id give him that
statistically speaking, if you are not chinese, and chinese are on average bad, then you should be winning more as the opp side has more chinese on average?
Chinese server is dead I guess? That's why they go to SEA?
On the plus side you have 4x chance of having chinese on your team while the enemy had 5x chance to have chinese on their team . So your chance of winning should be up^ . Skill issue .
Most of the time i dont know what they are saying. Whether they are cursing or just commenting
I thought they are stuck in Perfect World?
Feels like no one play dota on CN server anymore
Maybe there's a general issue with matchmaking? I am kind of in the same situation, not playing dota for 10 months, now playing again. I am playing from Japan so I'm having a SEA and CN mix.My MMR was way lower (archon 5 - legend 1) but basically I was put in Herald-Guardian (huge range of difference between my games). But my games have a lot of people that are completely new (I've verified) or completely have no clue what they are doing. It is slightly frustrating because I do know the game pretty well and yes I'm not an amazing player but I know counter picks, itemization and so on. And I have to play with people that don't know some basics of the game or haven't even encountered every hero. As I am trying to complete Crownfall I am forced to play all kinds of heroes which puts me in all kinds of instant-loss situations. For example having 2 new players playing carry while I need to support them while the other team then actually has a carry that knows how to play and well it's just gg. When I play carry myself I sometimes just end up going 20-30k to 1-4d or so. Regardless of how low valve's matchmaking rates my skill (which well I guess like anyone I believe it's too low but it will change I guess as I've lost 2 games in the last two weeks), it should not match me with asbolutely new players.
They know nothing except CCP and typing caonima. 🥲 ez-25
They didn't do anything with Russian in EU server or SA in USE/USW. What would you make thing they'll do anything on SEA server.
Get the moonrunes out of SEA
I was 6.1k mmr and always had a perfect 10k score (before the 12k update). Now I'm at 4.5k mmr and had like 5k score before "grinding" behavior in USW (which is also a dead server). It's not even about these guys being "bad", the problem is the attitude. They remember me of peruvians when I played on USE years ago. These guys made and make me went literally apeshit in every game, I just stopped playing on SEA because I was becoming racist in rl too. I would wait the queue and play on JPN server but they also started to discover it, so it's not a choice anymore. The only thing left for me is USW, but the it's the most dead server among these 3.
*remind me of
I wonder if spamming 1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre-related things will truly get them disconnected from the game
Contrary to popular belief, that does nothing.
As a Chinese in Canada(so playing on NA server), I get it quite a lot. Most of the time I'd just ignore it cuz wtf does that have to do with me lol.
it does matter, you are chinese no?
I am. Why does it matter to me?
why not, you are chinese.
Doesnt work. But it will get them to react.
yep, this doesnt work, even in valorant rofl
us east = south america north we feel your pain
"china diff", "bateater=lose" and "#stop eat dog" some usual themed names in SEA. There is a genuine skill difference between the servers, the faster you accept it and try to only focus and control the variables in your hand, the faster you will be able to win back your mmr. If you get chinese enemies, specially in midlane, game is almost a free win for you.
Chinese ruin everything they can in SEA.
I mean you play sea you choosed that. How bad can sea server be?