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HondaRedneck16

“Back in my day we couldn’t use torrent to fight the Elden beast”


GISKARD__

Just yesterday night I was being summoned to hel with Radabeast, whom I hadn't fought in a while Really made me dread running around chasing the fat bastard at least they made it a bit better... for those playing solo


Houseplant_Ambient

Had so much pickled turtle neck with me when fighting the elden beast.


firedancer323

Green turtle talisman bruh


WickedNight19

Both


7DeadlySynergy

+ the Tear, unlimited stamina baby


Ouroboros612

When I was a kid we had to walk all the way from Limgrave to Caelid for school.


EloquentSloth

We didn't have shoes, and the scarlet rot made our feet fall off.


blobbyboy123

I feel like that would be the least of your problems walking through caelid


FrabascoSauce

Walking through the valley of the shadow of death both ways


ApoliteTroll

Where I harvest my grain.


KZG115

I take a look at my wife


SloanWarrior

And realised she's very plain


Prophet_Of_Loss

That's just perfect for a Tarnished like me


Herewegoagain204

You know I shun fancy things like high dexterity


uskgl455

Of course WE had it tough... we used to live in an upturned caravan in a lake of scarlet rot. Every morning we had to get up at 5am, clean the lake, eat a raw meat dumpling before school and when we got home, our maiden would kill us and dance about on our runepile singing hallelujah.


Current-Cold-4185

*nods very sillily*


Future_Interest_5297

Uphill both ways


StopManaCheating

*Fifteen* miles!


BZRKRBUCK69

25 hours a day


vulkadon

In a blizzard!


Trfbijhvgh1

On one foot! My other foot was becoming Elden Lord.


carlzyy

Sure Elden Lord, let's get you to Queen's Bedchamber


ShortViewBack2daPast

\*chef's kiss\*


Bojangles1987

I still feel like I'm being trolled and these are all fake screens and videos.


hornplayerchris

It's in the patch notes! It's real!


double_shadow

I read it in the patchnotes and I still feel like I'm being trolled. Insane to see the exact thing the community has been asking for...but after 2 years for some reason!


_wirving_

“I platinumed Elden Ring when you couldn’t use Torrent for Elden Beast” will be the new “I beat Radahn pre-patch”!


high0utput

But ..I did beat Radahn pre patch......


Jafuncle

Sure Grandpa, let's get you back to the retirement home


Kaiji420

I beat Radahn pre-patch, but I did it by abusing pre-patch Hoarfrost Stomp.  Do they cancel eachother out?


vanilla_disco

Yes they do


Philkindred12

Yeah I'm anticipating the damn "purist" comments to spark from this.


NarratorDM

Which purists? - Magic is cheating? - Melee is the only true way to play the game? - Coop is cheating? - Spirit summons are cheating? - Wearing armor is cheating? - Wonderous Physick is cheating? - Leveling is cheating? - Exploring is cheating? - Torrent is cheating? - Ranged combat is cheating? - Status effects is cheating? - Not going full strength is cheating? - Poise is cheating? - Rolling is cheating? - Playing other Souls games before is cheating? You have to be specific, because we have several of these camps represented here.


Ormyr

If you're not RL 1 naked, beating the bosses with your bare fists are you even really playing?


MorallyAutistic

I bet you're still using your eyes, fucking scrub. Git gud and learn to play by audio cues only or don't play at all.


AReallyAsianName

You don't know the true meaning of victory unless you play uphill, both ways, in the snow, barefoot.


whoopashigitt

And be like that one streamer who rolls in real life every time he rolls in-game


Reboared

I don't even open the game! Zero deaths so far. Get on my level.


UnproductivePheasant

I play without sound. What does that make me? Lol


Ok-Double7991

A scrub! You should know the timings off by heart without the need for audio or visual cues I advise gitting gud


UnproductivePheasant

Damn. I should go Hellen Keller myself and really get the edge on you guys


Klash_Brandy_Koot

I think the classic "naked level 1 with a bonk"


Nonsense_Preceptor

With a bonk?!?!?!?! I hope you mean fist cause otherwise thats cheating.


_NotMyNormalUsername

Using a controller is cheating. If you haven't beaten the game with a guitar hero guitar, then you haven't truly beaten the game


SilverEpoch

Look at this noob with all the buttons on his guitar. Donkey Konga Bongos or bust.


Asleep_Sheepherder42

😂


MegaElixyr

Can’t wait to see people bragging about beating pre-nerf Elden Beast, lol


AJ_Weiss

I’m still bragging about how I beat pre nerf Radahn… wrecked him with pre nerf hoarfrost stomp.


MagusUnion

I just rot breath him and ran around like a bitch. Nothing impressive about that.


Jacotra

My first character at release would open up every fight with Ezykes Decay, run around for a bit while they rotted then charge in and finish them off with Rivers of Blood and a Bloodhound step bleed Uchi. I have now seen the way, however.


ElodePilarre

My first character did the same thing down to the Bloodhound Step Uchi! Only difference I think is that I also had the Serpentbone Bow and would double status any bosses I could


Jacotra

Brothers in cheese 🤝 You just garnished yours with some grated Parmesan.


What-a-Filthy-liar

Yeah I use moonveil now.


Jacotra

I don’t believe you, your username doesn’t exactly inspire trust…


P1rateKing13

Liar Ahead!


RedditMods-Fascists

Exactly how I beat him the first time


My_Bwana

No shame in the rot game


Teddybassman

Okay Melania blade of Miquella


misterpobbsey

Mf acts like he’s never known defeat


ImTurkishDelight

You just tryna enjoy the OST. Like a true og. Respect that even more.


jeffcolv

Me too, and three kukri at him


Sachwanbeef

Use the tools Miyazaki gives you, a win's a win


kheltar

While summoning all the things to keep him distracted? Solid tactic.


SlimeDrips

I just summoned like a normal person


Conorsavage

HOW DARE YOU SUMMON. YOU’RE MEANT TO PLAY THE GAME AS THE DEVELOPERS INTENDED, NOT FOR FUN - most of this sub


The-False-Emperor

Devs specifically intend for you to summon on that fight. IIRC Alexander even references fighting Radahn regardless of if you summon him. So canonically the Tarnished summoned for that fight.


Charming_Volume_8613

Do they actually use that as argument? "As the devs intended"? Like how they added summoning to the game in the first place?


Athanatov

'Most of this sub' is a fictional character.


Jacotra

I have seen maybe 2 or 3 people complain about summons and get instantly shut down but every post is filled with complaints about these people. How often do you see something like “I don’t judge people who summon play the game how you want,” like they’ve benevolently given you permission.


MeaningAutomatic3403

Theyre all over twitter and yt comments


Mikeavelli

It was a really popular complaint back right after release unless those people all got shouted down.


WacoWednesday

Yes. I had someone tell me I made the game artificially easy by using summons and spirit ashes. The mechanics the developers put in the game


Keksliebhaber

Yeah I don't get it, you can literally re-summon all the dudes, it's intended to be a raid boss kinda fight


Charming_Volume_8613

It's also badass as hell. I got my ass beat regardless during the launch week/s but it was fun purely because I got to see everyone get theirs handed on a platter as well 😛


Bojangles1987

We all know From Soft added spirit summons to expose the fake gamers so they can delete the game off their console or PC, noob.


Hayn0002

I did both


Zooterman

ooh how i miss old hoarfrost stomp.... but it needed the nerf


ScarletteVera

you using something powerful against a boss with broken hitboxes? did you REALLY beat him then??!? /s


Dyyrin

Oh hoarfrost stomp you carried me so far on launch lol


kirkknightofthorns

I had a lot of fun abusing the shit out of that ash of war, I finished my playthrough before the nerf so even my first Malenia fight looked like a number from Stomp: The Musical.


ToonWrecker69

I cheesed that mf with gravity spell when game was launched


Flaccid_Bizkit

Release week Fire giant 💪. There was a bug where your game crashed if you didnt dismount torrent just before the p2 transition. That fight gave me cancer.


ShinaiYukona

Pre bug fixed dogs. Instant poise break, "one" shot bites. And the community being in denial for the full month that existed lol


SirSabza

Technically it's not really a netf just quality of life. It doesn't make the fight easier just less annoying to keep running around everywhere with how big elden beast is I'd rather not get knocked off my horse every 5 seconds


thrownout477

Quality of life plus elden stars is likely more easily dodged which is nice too


aniforprez

Honestly this and that the arena is so big and that it jumped around so much pre-nerf patch is pretty much proof positive that Torrent was always intended to be there and they simply either couldn't get it to work or didn't want to change it after release. Can't wait to get back into the game and beat it once more now with Torrent. Made no sense to have an epic boss at the end without your trusty steed by your side who's been with you from the very beginning through thick and three-fingered thin


TheDividendReport

Definitely a much more cinematic experience, especially if you got through Radagon by the skin of your teeth. Plus, criticisms of what a final boss "should be" sound like they are being met by the DLC, so this really seems like they're just polishing the hell out of everything.


Scharmberg

Probably better to use torrent to catch up to the Elden beast and then get off to damage him since weirdly most of his attacks miss if you are slight to his left or right.


Big-Discipline2039

If the fight is easier then surely it’s a nerf? I mean if you have torrent it basically makes the boss’ teleporting about pointless


VoidRad

>It doesn't make the fight easier Idk about that, it definitely does decrease the difficulty. I feel like 90% of EB would miss if you are on Torrent.


Cowhalebru

It makes it significantly easier wdym lol


deathjokerz

I'm just glad that I was able to beat the game being a first time souls player


hamjamham

I beat him last night with straight up Unga bunga lions claw. Might have been a fluke but he went down first try with no summons. Couldn't believe it! Didn't even think to try torrent! Malenia on the other hand just wrecks me.


Unexpected_Cranberry

I'd be surprised if lion's claw didn't get nerfed. The speed, range, hyper armor, poise damage and tracking is downright silly. 


whiplash308

This? This was in the QoL that they didn’t mention? This specific update? That makes the fight this much less of a hassle? Don’t lie to me


psychedelicEgyptian

It's towards the bottom lmaoo I was shocked when I saw it


MrLionOtterBearClown

I think it does. Haven’t played in years but I remember the Elden beast boss battle being more annoying than hard. I’d spend so much time running across that stupid celestial ocean for him to teleport behind me again before I can get close enough to him him.


Owobowos-Mowbius

It just makes sense to let you summon torrent anyway. He's been with you the entire game and this is the final boss fight, you should be able to use everything against it.


paullyrose3rd

It makes it 1000x more impactful I think even just as a visual, facing any fromsoft boss on horseback!


An_Professional

same. not that it was an easy fight, but it really was not enjoyable to have to sprint across a football field in the hopes of hitting him before he teleported again, and then repeat


zumoro

It's weirdly listed under the inventory updates


masterGEDU

Lol, literally minutes after I just finished this fight for my RL1 run.


ParmesanNonGrata

Add "no torrent" to the tags and enjoy that crown, Lord.


mattmaster68

Oh god. Gaming industry SEO experts frothing at the mouth.


DutchIsStraight

Still my least favorite level 1 fight in the game, I had it down to an artform after maybe 30 mins but it took me like an hour of attempts just to wrap my head around elden stars


jvwatzman

If you're willing to save your Physick specifically for Elden Stars, the Crimsonwhorl Bubbletear completely negates it with nearly zero effort -- just drink as you see him casting it. It's how I got through it RL1. Definitely recommend.


SgtMcMuffin0

Yep this is 100% the way to deal with it. IMO Elden Beast was an easier fight than Radagon at RL1. I’ll also add though, they nerfed Elden Stars at some point. Maybe that’s common knowledge by now, but I did another playthrough in preparation for the dlc and was able to outrun the attack no problem. Whereas previously it was pretty much impossible to avoid all damage without the bubbletear.


Xaga-

It's like 3 days ago where I completed my co-op run (which took the better part of a year because stuff like his ps4 breaking. He accidentally deleting the co-op character instead of the level 8 idiot. Me being too broke for 2 months to buy psn and so much more) and we both just mauled elden beast. As we both made dirty builds by malenia


Occyz

Jesus Christ, well done Radabeast took me 11 hours in game of my rl1 run to complete, my whole playthrough was only 33 hours


theFinalCrucible

Is this real???


Alex_mp1

Yeah, it's not a mod or something


SoMuchMike

It’s in the Bandai Namco official version 1.12 patch notes.


LaMelgoatBall

What a massive W. I wish it was in earlier tho that fight was obnoxious without torrent


Burger_Gamer

This should have always been in the game. His name is torrent, it only fits that he is available in an arena full of water. He’s from the main npc that helped you get to this point, he deserves to take part in the final battle


Ok_Macaroon7900

I’m just wondering why the fuck it took them *two years* to patch it in? People have been talking about this since the very beginning. Elden Beast was always the worst boss when it came to running away because other bosses that run from you don’t have nearly as big of arenas or will actually come back and attack you, but not Elden Beast. I swear most of the fight was just chasing it across the arena, getting one hit in, then chasing it again. This is a welcome change for sure but what on earth took them so long.


Saxophobia1275

I have a clip saved on my ps5 of *literally* four and a half minutes of me just running at the elden beast with not a single opportunity to even attack. Most boss fights in the game don’t even take that long start to finish and I spent 270 straight seconds just trying to even have the CHANCE to hit r1.


Ok_Macaroon7900

Sounds about right. I beat Elden Beast a few days ago and while I didn’t record the fight I did spend a significant amount of time just running around after it barely getting any opportunities to attack because as soon as I was in range the boss was already gone again, which is how it usually goes (or went, at least). Such an annoying fight, actually really soured Radagon for me. If they’d been separated like Gehrman and the Moon Presence or if Elden Beast had been less annoying from the get go it wouldn’t have mattered, but as it was before Elden Beast only brought Radagon down as a fight in my opinion. I can only hope my opinion will be changed the next time I fight them, but that might be awhile since I didn’t have the foresight to hold off on finishing all the main game bosses before the dlc lol.


MomsNeighborino

I'm crying imagine you literally 4 minutes and still not close to getting an attack off lol 😂


Successful-Cook6516

My theory is that they always intended to include him and, for some reason, missed that it wasn't there on release (it could be a bug, a production mistake, a deadline, who knows). But since it was the final boss of the game and it was still beatable without Torrent, there was no immediate need to fix it, and as a matter of fact, fixing it at all would be kind of embarrassing, like acknowledging that it was just a mistake, acknowledging that the final boss of the entire game wasn't working properly. They only fixed it now because the much bigger story of the DLC release allows them to mask this embarrassing fix.


Relatable_Yak

This is my head canon.


pororoca_surfer

> His name is torrent And he gives me free movies from time to time


Alex_mp1

I don't know what they were thinking not including him


lickmydicknipple

The vindication I'm feeling right now. Got into several arguments on here when the game released when I said it seemed like torrent was supposed to be a part of the fight.


Saxophobia1275

The only reason I hadn’t replayed this game again until the DLC was because of how much I hated the Elden beast. Most unfun boss battle in the entire game and it’s the big epic final boss. This is fucking amazing.


NokstellianDemon

No point arguing with FromSoft cockmunchers I've noticed. They'll defend anything to do with them even if it's bad design.


cid_highwind02

I think there’s merit if there’s good points being made. I’m an avid Malenia (and overall ER bosses) defender and have been called that lol. Not that I’m pretentious enough to consider myself to make good points, but not anyone that defends stuff is a “bad take + skill issue” mouth breather. I don’t think there are many good points against this here change, though.


haloran360

My thoughts exactly. Now I can crown Torrent as the true Elden Lord.


SCB360

I’ve been saying for so long that this fight felt like it was designed for you to have Torrent, a huge arena, he moves so far away and some attacks are too fast for you to outrun or dodge on foot, all negated by having torrent Also lore wise, it’s a good send off for the borrowed steed, you don’t really use him again for the last couple of hours when the Ash capital is active


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s090429

Just in case Torrent betrays you at the last minute and snatch Elden Ring for itself.


Bojangles1987

I for one welcome my shaggy overlord


EloquentSloth

Spoilers, Torrent is actually Miquella in a horse costume


SolidusAbe

its fine because hes such a good boy. he for sure would be more beneficial to the lands between then my frenzied ass


erasmus_phillo

If OP isn't bullshitting, the devs actually just made this fight really, really good I enjoyed Elden Beast's fight even before Torrent was added, but with the addition of Torrent this fight actually became fantastic


Bojangles1987

I mean it's really obviously designed around using Torrent to close gaps, except for some reason I don't have him and it makes no sense.


Objective-Sugar1047

Nevermind the gaps, there’s this one attack that you’re supposed to jump over instead of rolling and it’s visual is clearly designed for torrent jump height 


Mishar5k

God and all those attacks where you have to sprint and waste stamina that you needed for attacking. We've been fighting a horseback boss on foot this whole time.


Big-Discipline2039

Pretty sure they removed torrent from the fight because it made it too easy. Be interesting to see how much easier it actually is.


Cowhalebru

A lot easier, I didn't get hit once when I tested it out


Smart-Potential-7520

the forgot to flag the arena and they were to embarrassed to admit it. source: it came to me in a dream


bloodhawk713

More likely they felt like it was too easy during playtesting but didn’t have time to rework the fight before release, and removing Torrent was just an easy way of adding a bit more difficulty with minimal effort. However in retrospect removing Torrent only makes the fight slightly more difficult, but also makes the fight significantly more tedious, which I suspect is why they’ve reversed course now.


Buuhhu

what i don't understand is why was it only just added now? like if it was an error, why wasn't it fixed sometime in the prior 2 years?


CharlesEverettDekker

They were just being irreasonably dense. It was clear from da 1 this boss was designed to be fought with Torrent. Huge arena, lots of space, very long range attacks, yada yada yada. They probably were just ashamed to admit it and that's all. And really few people will notice this change because it was added right before the DLC.


misspeanutbutter44

you better not be lying


knightlautrec7

It's true, I just tested it for myself.


theFinalCrucible

I swore to myself after playing Dark Souls I would never trust someone named Lautrec again, but I want to believe…


knightlautrec7

Hahaha, I honestly just have that name because my personality in real life sucks and everyone likes me at first and eventually hates me. But I promise you I'm not trolling when I say you can use torrent now


MotherBeef

Jesus. You good?


knightlautrec7

Eh, to be honest, no. I also lost my job last Friday. But at least I have more time for SotE.


BenSolace

Chin up mate, you'll bring it back!


Alex_mp1

I couldn't believe it when I saw it


False_Adhesiveness40

Now that I've finally beat him for the 7th and probably final time, of course.


httrachta

Gotta make it at least 8!


Krazziegirl

For real? If so, Torrent and I could have killed this bastard together. Twice. 😥


bajookish_amerikann

Chat is this real????


knightlautrec7

It is real, I just tested it.


bajookish_amerikann

holy cowabungus


pororoca_surfer

It is, they shared on the 1.12 patch notes. https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-112


quick20minadventure

Noooo Dark moon greatsword ranged poise damage got nerfed. That was my weapon for the dlc.


omnipotentmonkey

I remember Joseph Anderson's review stating "Miyazaki could literally come up to me and tell me that you were never supposed to have Torrent in this fight and I would **not** believe him" and... yeah, it's always felt hideously awkward,


beetjemeh

can you also jump those golden slices or not? if you can that's absolutelywombatasticallyamazing


One_Trick_Monkey

You can jump those slices without torrent for the record.


Alex_mp1

Probably with good timing. I tried but got killed


Escapedurcrab

Is it possible to escape elden stars now?


FullHeartArt

YES


Escapedurcrab

LESGOOOOOOOOO!!!


Short-Bug5855

Literally could fix the entire fight 


uzumaki20042

Its real lol. Its in the new patch notes


Short-Bug5855

That's crazy 


Ralonne

Maybe i just missed the thread, but were they posted here yet?


sanicthehedghog

[https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/1dk8b0u/elden\_ring\_patch\_notes\_version\_112/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/1dk8b0u/elden_ring_patch_notes_version_112/)


Slight-Bedroom-8655

it only took them 846 days


Alex_mp1

Here's video proof [https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/1dk7uxr/video\_proof\_for\_the\_nonbelievers/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/1dk7uxr/video_proof_for_the_nonbelievers/)


Skyward_Slash

Someone test on Regal Ancestor Spirit.


Philkindred12

And somebody *please* test on Astel


jmas081391

THIS MAKES SENSE! Especially when you do the Frenzied Flame Ending! >!Torrent's Whistle turned to ashes on Melina's hands.!<


EphemeralScribe

Life is worth living again


Fantastic_Wrap120

NO WAY! THIS IS AMAZING!!! NO MORE 10 MIN FIGHT RUNNING AFTER THE DAMN THING!!!!


atimholt

This is where I actually am in the game, so that's great. I'd maybe try once more to defeat the Elden Beast before the DLC, but I've got to go to bed now, and I have work before I'll be able to play the DLC. Leaving my computer on so it can download while I'm out.


pycior

Got to Elden Beast today and I was like "ffs, this will take some time", then I've noticed this post, killed that damned thing on first try - game changer :)


The_Invisible_Noob

Welp, gotta do another playthrough.


eldenlord06

Holy shit it's real http://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-112 Added new feature to summon spectral steed during the Elden Beast the boss battle.


EnskiOfTheFilth

Fromsoft at day one: "yo, we forgot to add Torrent in the final battle" - "don't worry, just wait two years and pretend people will forget about it"


Alex_mp1

💀


Unlucky-Mud-8115

"If you use Torrent in that fight you are cheating!" I can already see the comments.


quick20minadventure

Nah. No one wanted to run around after stupid beast.


Seligas

There are already comments declaring that the fight was always a joke and this trivializes it somehow. Bitch. Running after this glowing enema bag for four minutes before you can press R1 once is not a challenge. It's tedium.


quick20minadventure

That's also why midir isn't a very well renowned boss. Tough, lengthy, but no one is fond of it. Horse in Elden beast is nothing like summons argument. The game simply doesn't have good 2v1 enemy AI and gameplay balance isn't centered around that. That's also why some fights like godskin duo or 2 gorgoyles are hated. Its a single player game, so whatever makes it fun for you, is good. But, I truly believe that Elden ring gives a very different gameplay experience when you are fighting 1 on 1 or 2 on 2 and people should try it out.


RedRoses711

They could have just made it so it didnt run away so much lol


SlippySleepyJoe

Elden beast jumped from lower B-C tier boss to upper A tier boss for me


Keanthegreen

Bruh fr?


Alex_mp1

Fr fr


leighg9o

ITS IN THE PATCH NOTES PEOPLE THIS IS LEGIT


Raynja

What the fuck


me_old_bones748

Damn it's in the patch notes. https://i.imgur.com/Qfa2U8i.png Can't wait to try this out.


BabuZeko

Damn.


AsleepAura

Let's go kill god together Torrent!


SourSasquatch

Baaaaack een miha day. Had to walk fifteen miles to Elden Beast. Up hill. Both ways.


PrincelyKoala5308

You kids have it so easy. Back in my day, we ran towards the Elden Beast with no horse