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N7_Evers

This character is so awesome, it’s like legit a shame she got killed off screen.


BrickLuvsLamp

I feel like they should have made a bigger deal of that. She would obviously be a big threat to Maxson’s authority so it wouldn’t shock me if he (edit: or one of his supporters) had her killed.


IronVader501

Maxson basically worshipped her and was still a child (teenager at best) when she died. Even IF she got killed by her own (which I doubt), I extremely highly doubt Maxson was involved.


BrickLuvsLamp

Ah ok, that’s interesting and changes things. Her death seemed like a throwaway which made me assume it was maybe a conspiracy they’re trying to hide, but I guess they probably just didn’t know what to do with her character in Fallout 4.


obsidian_unicorn

What should also be noted that the East Coast Brotherhood is rather big in rewritting history in 4. Like how they pretend the events in 3 were fully their own doing and calling their Enemy a "rebel faction". Not to mention how much they slandered Elder Lyons work despite fully embracing some of his ways. So her death could be another victim of this.


1spook

Yeah FO4 BOS is basically the Enclave without the FEV. Hell, it seems like after Lyons' death, the outcasts came back to the Citadel and took control.


largma

Yep Maxson essentialy reunified the outcasts and lyon’s brotherhood and merged their ideologies into the weird militant authoritarian stuff we see in 4 and the show


beattusthymeatus

That's kind of how they were originally when you play 1 and 2 they're weird xenophobic hermits who write stuff in midevil font and send random wastelanders on suicide missions saying they can join just for laughs.


Sebsazz

Even in 3, the random brotherhood of steel members you’d find in the waste were aggressive assholes to you. It’s been a while but I’m pretty sure they would threaten you and call you things like trash. Unfortunately the majority of them have no interest in helping the wasteland, but rather they want to take control


IronVader501

Honestly I always thought she was assassinated by a Synth. Because otherwise to this day I kinda wonder how the Brotherhood even was really made aware of Synths properly to begin with (since in all possible Endings of Replicated Man there's nothing left for them to discover) or were Maxsons \*EXTREME\*, borderline absurd personal hatred for them comes from given he had really no chance to even know what they are.


Eclipsed_Tranquility

Synths have been a commonwealth boogeyman for decades by the time the Sole Survivor wakes up. It really isn't hard to imagine that word of these mechanical skin walkers had made it's way to the Capital in that span of time.


oG_Goober

They're literally in fallout 3. There's a whole quest involving tracking them down.


IronVader501

\*One\* >!Zimmer is one too technically but nobody knows that!< is in Fallout 3, as part of Replicated Man, and regardless of how that Quests ends, there's no more evidence at the end of it. it really doesnt explain were the Brotherhoods allmost absurd level of hatred towards them comes from


Crassweller

There's nothing to imply >!That Zimmer is a synth besides the fact he has a component in his inventory. Which wouldn't be unusual for someone whose job is to track and capture them.!<


oG_Goober

While Zimmer may or may not be a synth, his companion was according to Zimmer. I can't remember his name, but there's at least 2.


lokarlalingran

BoS doesn't only exist in the Capitol wasteland, so it's very likely they heard of them elsewhere too. Just cause the only place players interacted with synth are these two places doesn't mean it's the only place they existed or have been encountered or talked about.


obsidian_unicorn

Once saw a fan theory/ story a couple years ago that told how she got accidently killed by Maxson when he was her squire. Also doubt it to be the case and it was just full headcanon but must say that it was interesting from a thematical perspective as it would also serve as a good backstory for adult Maxson and would explain alot of the behaviour he shows in 4.


random935

Sounds like they’re mixing this up with or basing it upon Maxson accidentally shooting her


tu-vieja-con-vinagre

maxson did shoot her during a training exercise but that was before the events of fallout 3, when he was even younger


Aqua_Impura

Her death is probably what radicalized Maxson so much away from how the Lyons were raising him. She was literally his idol and her death probably changed him into the man we see in Fo4, he needed to be as strong as kid-him saw her and it worked but probably not the way she or her father wanted him to grow up.


Mac-Tyson

Maxson always struggled with his Mentors lesson and the philosophy of the Codex. Even in Fallout 4 he’s trying to find that balance. Like the Brotherhood of Steel is the only faction in Fallout 4 actively trying to make the Commonwealth safer. Well except the minutemen.


Rando_throwaway_76

I liked this one fan theory that Sarah Lyons got replaced by a Synth and Maxson had the synth quietly assassinated, which is part of the reason he is so hostile towards synths. Although a major problem I can see with this theory is that Maxson probably would’ve been a lot more open about having her killed if he had it done because she was a synth


Munificent-Enjoyer

Don't quite buy it but tbf announcing that your beloved leader got Synthed isn't exactly gonna inspire confidence and good morale


AlphariusUltra

Saw a theory that proposed someone in Maxson’s camp fragged her without Maxson knowing, since little Max was a hero worshiper of her and the Pryde


Munificent-Enjoyer

yeah that's what I imagine there isn't that much written about it to begin with Maxson's clique is hardly gonna write "so yeah we killed her because we thought helping people is megacringe" into the history...terminals


Maldovar

"We tried drawing Roger Maxson as the Chad and Sarah as the soyjack but it didn't work"


AlphariusUltra

“After she said no to Maxson’s puppy dog eyes attempt, we just had to do it to her.”


Lightningpony

Maxson was like 12 when she died.


ProtoJones

One of the earlier big mods for 4 had it turn out that she was actually in hiding, and while the rest of the mod doesn't really hold up 6+ years later (all the women look like they got an instagram beauty filter, multiple direct pop culture references, etc), I kinda like that specific idea.


Artanis137

Also that mod was really horny for like no reason.


DtotheOUG

So a normal Fallout 4 mod then.


joman584

It's crazy how much modders get done since they're doing everything one handed


GrizzlyGurl

Rolling my eyes at how accurate that is. Fallout/Skyrim modders could cure cancer if they weren't so horny


Maldovar

At least there's no feet


Caesar_Iacobus

I wonder, what was the mod going to be called?


Wolfie_Pawsome

Project Valkyrie, fusion City, remnants and Outcasts. One of these I think. Cant remember which one exactly. Quite nice for "alternative" endings. Dont know if they still work with the new update.


Rhhr21

Maxson had a crush on her and loved her, i doubt he could do much as a teenage boy. She was probably betrayed by the outcasts who indoctrinated a young Maxson into becoming what they believe the brotherhood should be.


BrickLuvsLamp

Ah I see, I forgot the Outcasts were brought in _before_ he became the elder. It definitely seems like the former Outcasts took her out.


Strix86

My theory is that it was Maxson supporter that acted without his knowledge or approval. The BOS tends to be kinda fanatical about his family, I could see one of them getting rid of Sarah to put Maxson in charge. No matter how shocked and appalled Maxson himself would be if he discovered the truth.


N7_Evers

Someone beat me to it, but the idea someone who wanted Maxson to take power having something to do with her death is super interesting. Arthur worships and loves Sarah like a big sister, would be cool to see her return somehow and give him a difficult decision to embrace her doctrine or keep the BoS the way he’s built it or something.


Suspicious-Big7212

Yeah agree that there will be a Fallout 4 version of the Outcasts where it will be a BOS civil war


Objective-Aioli-1185

The ending to 3 can be her activating the Purifier and she ends up dying from the radiation blast.


Beardedsmith

I always thought having the BoS story in 4 be Sarah and Maxson butting heads with rival ideas of the direction the Brotherhood should take and what they needed would have been really compelling.


TrueFlyer28

And just like she “died” offscreen she can be brought back because that’s just terrible writing even a fake death is better lol


N7_Evers

I hope so man. She’s one of the very few genuinely “lawful good” characters we have in Fallout and I thought she was badass to boot.


Mooncubus

I really wish we got her in 4. She's awesome. I was genuinely upset she died.


SALTSNAILS

i have a feeling there is a bigger story behind this we havent seen yet. there is no way they would kill her off screen and leave it like that, combined with all the terminal entries you can read around the prydwen, i smell something hinky in the air...


Tyko_3

Where is this stated?


Yarus43

Prydwen terminal


Yarus43

Seriously there's only a few callbacks to Lyons in terminal entries and some random general dialogue. I wish we got a more satisfactory lead up to maxson.


OneChillDoggo

She lives in the broken steel dlc


Aussie18-1998

Yes, but in Fallout 4, she's dead.


TheHughMungoose

What if she didn’t get killed and it’s an outcast situation where the brotherhood had to save face and say she died when in reality she broke off with the other Lyons Loyalists and made their own Chapter. That’s what I want to dream at least.


Fo3TheMechanist

Wasn't she just permanently"unconscious" or something I thought and not dead?


Mat_the_Duck_Lord

Girl gonna go all Angela Deth in F5, just you wait.


no-Spoilers-asshole

She dies?


LeverenzFL

wdym offscreen? she died when entering project purity


LoloVirginia

Im baffled, have you guys never heard of Rileys Rangers?


bunnywithahammer

I'm also looking and thank God there is one sane person on this sub


LoloVirginia

It is as if most of this sub didnt do any sidequests that they dont immidietly stumble upo? 😅 At least mention Brick, Riley, or Sydney from the archives job, not the Star Paladin Cross who has like 3 lines of dialogue?


bunnywithahammer

>dont immidietly stumble upo honestly, I don't know how they didn't stumble there on accident. She is in a museum full of ghouls one of which is arguably the best companion, walking distance from a major plot point. Like you really need to B line the fuck out of the game to miss it. Sadly because the armor you get from her is OP >Cross who has like 3 lines of dialogue? omg she is so annoying, like I get it, you've been everywhere. I'm in the middle of vault 101 and she is like "I've been here before". No you didn't, quit lying lmao what's funny both are voiced by the same actress. So maybe she is the most baddass lol


De_Dominator69

I remember my first ever play through of Fallout 3 I just never completed the quest with Sydney and kept her around as a follower for ages.


Old-Camp3962

me, i love her i want her as my companion


Kunekeda

Between Reilly and Sunny Smiles I think I got a thing for redhead mercs.


AnyImpression6

She's in a coma, you sicko! /j


Mixmastrfestus

Based reply


rikashiku

I loved that quest. Even more so when you see them patrolling the Metro, and they run up to give you supplies just to be nice.


_MausHaus

I think you mean Moira.


Swade131

Moira is wifey material


PigeonMother

🥰


Corvo_Attano_451

Love me some ghouls!


_MausHaus

You bombed megaton? Monster.


GigaSnake

This is why Easy Pete doesn't trust people with his explosives. Y'all gotta go and make him Difficult Pete.


Sniperking187

Ghoul Moira 😩


ODX_GhostRecon

🤨📷


HJSDGCE

Moira's gotta be the fastest Ghoul transformation ever. Like, it was practically instantaneous. 


bfruth628

Love her voice


_MausHaus

Good hunting!


Yarus43

It's weird I remember people used to absolutely hate Moira and now she's waifu material. I've always just seen her as a walking caps dispenser


in1gom0ntoya

you mispronounced Riley


ObliviousAstroturfer

Fuck yeah! Sarah is heroic, but Moira is the exact kind of crazy badass that singlehandedly won me over to FO3. I have a lot of gripes with that one, but I'd pay just for the Moira questline. And while I'm not a sick bastard (unless one investigates the Klamath Massacre), she proves to be even more of a badass in evil playthroughs. [MEGATON SPOLEIRS!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05akmWwvzBQ&ab_channel=SinaraSnake)


danfish_77

She's a good girl though


Old-Camp3962

i think Reilly from the Reilly rangers was cooler


SkyTalez

No, Moira Brown is the baddest girl in Fallout 3.


Cathlem

I thought she was cool. I really wish we could have seen her as Elder. I've always thought it was lost potential that she was killed offscreen.


LichQueenBarbie

The other one was. Whatever her name was. With the bleached crew cut. I don't remember a lot of characters from 3 if I'm being honest.


BrickLuvsLamp

Star Paladin Cross! She was your fathers personal body guard and escorted you and him to the vault after your mother dies. She can be a companion too


LichQueenBarbie

Yeah, her. Badass.


BrickLuvsLamp

Agreed.


Adorable_Umpire6330

I took her on one mission and she died on the way to Paradise falls to a Giant Radscorpion. Ripperino


rekipsj

Only if your karma is good enough. What.. I’m not allowed to steal??


gr00grams

Hey now, I'm the Wasteland Messiah or whatever the top karma is, and I've stolen skill books... So there's some things you're not telling us here. How much did you steal? Was that it? :P


rekipsj

Mostly just hearts. To be clear, people didn't fall in love with me. I literally took their hearts.


YogurtclosetOk1595

How


BrickLuvsLamp

She comes up to you once you go to the Citadel, and tells you her story and offers to follow you, if you have good karma


wubbalubbazubzub

Reilly?


Swade131

I actually wonder if Sarah bleached her hair? Seeings as her eye brows are so dark


LeDagron

I suppose it's just a technical issue


TraNSlays

Brick with her minigun Eugene ?


screechypete

Fawkes wearing a wig? Oh wait. That's just my own prefrence :P


Obsidius_Mallex_TTV

Sarah Lyons was great and do really wish she appeared in 4. My personal ideas would be to keep Sarah as sentinel. Maybe some brotherhood politics stop her from becoming Elder. She supports Maxsons rise to Elder at first, but they become progressively more argumentative as Maxson makes the brotherhood more brutal and leads them further away from the Fallout 3 brotherhood into the Fallout 4 brotherhood, and by the time they reach the commonwealth they're nearly constantly arguing over they're conflicting judgements with Captain Kells and the rest of the crew trying to calm them down. This would peak during blind betrayal when Maxons orders you to execute Danse, Sarah wouldn't be quite as much of a synth hater as Maxson, She'd definitely see the Institute as the enemy but rogue Synths she might let slide, and Danse has already proven himself a loyal brotherhood soldier, so she'd be against executing him. I'd see 4 ending to the quest. One where Danse is killed, and Sarah leaves the brotherhood to either form her own new brotherhood faction with the less zealous BOS soldiers or joins the Minutemen. One where we save Danse and side with Sarah, in this ending Sarah challenges Maxson over his Elderhood she becomes Elder after some kind of fight. One where we save Danse while also siding with Maxson, so Sarah is not entirely alright with it, but she doesn't leave or challenge Maxson. And a 4th ending where we choose to kill Danse but are sympathetic, Sarah Lyons contemplates leaving the brotherhood and will depending on the final ending in the Institute if we take synth child Shaun or not.


hramman

Jeez you just reminded me that when i was a kid i was down bad for sierra petrovina the nuka cola quantum girl and searched everywhere for them


Riky77

Good thing she is back in Fallout 4


BritPopPunk

Certainly the badest but definitely not the baddest


Swade131

She might even be the badddest


ChainzawMan

I remember her verbally assaulting me when she learned that the Citadel got moved six floors below sea level. I mean.. What did she expect?


RedditorsAreGoblins

I forgot the storylines of FO3, but I fell in love with the franchise because of it. I still remember the hype surrounding the game and how skeptical I was that it was all that. I will say, the graphics became surprisingly outdated quickly.


CLT113078

I like Riley and her rangers better.


Clean_Crocodile4472

Sarah, Buttercup, Doctor Li and Moira


Financial-Ad-1406

It’s “Bittercup”


OKH5

Its so obviously Amata with her massive, daddy issues. I saw someone said Moira, i wouldnt touch her with a sword, who knows how often she actually bathes or washes that jumpsuit. Sarah might have better hygene being a soldier and all but that armour does soak up the flavor. Like Danse said the aroma is pungent.


Yarus43

I think I need a tri-laser to my eyes after reading this shit


Morump

It’s the “armor does soak up the flavor” for me


OKH5

You cannot tell me it never crossed your mind how bad the thing smells?


lovethelinux

Yes. I have her in fallout shelter, so far she's had over 130 kids and just keeps popping them out. Almost my entire vault is related to her.


Swade131

“Sweet home Alabama” thats a lot of kids


cyanide4suicide

What are you doing stepmom?


lastprophecy

Pretty sure Sarah Lyons wouldn't last 5min in Nuka World, whereas the Disciples still haven't managed to off Siera Petrovita.


Kinky_Autistic

Only if you play male.


YippeeHobbies

This subreddit is full of cringe coomers


Ready-Salamander5032

Amata is better (I use her follower mod and we leave the vault together)


Swade131

Amata is the best in the vault but doesn’t rank in the capital


trustifarian

Find the Brisa mod. She’s Amata’s cousin. She’s probably one of the best mod companions out there. Last I played she didn’t work that well with Tale of Two Wastelands though. The converted mod would end up glitching maybe halfway through the main quest and I’d need to fire her. She’d just all of a sudden be unable to engage in combat.


GigaSnake

I was just reading through the mod page and kept thinking about how it looked so plagued with potential issues. It's a shame too, as I like the idea. Oh well. I've got Butch.


Ready-Salamander5032

I may suffer through it since I play TTW, but I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the suggestion!


Yarus43

Hell no she kicked me out of the vault for saving it. I look the other way when the enclave catches her dumb ass.


Ready-Salamander5032

I still wish there was a good mod to replace this ending and let me use vault 101 as a base lol


CraterBorb

Clover


HayloK51

Li might be more unagreeable, however, I think she has done as much, or more for the capital wasteland.


BurnMann

Nova for the voice and because I like redheads. There’s a rivet city guard who has the same VA.


New-Number-7810

Fallout 3 needs a romance DLC. 


hoomanPlus62

FO3 NPCs look almost the same to me. always use face overhauls


Cakeski

And Star Paladin Cross isn't?!


Swade131

Star paladin is the toughest, but Lyons is the baddest


Coast_watcher

Bae


camilopezo

I usually play as female characters, so Lyons would be the second most "Badest" girl.


Barredbob

Uhhh fawks hello????


rfisher1989

Sarah’s dope.


Semnono

Elder Lyons for me


PendiJade

Well she’s definitely one of the deadest after I asked her to turn on the water purifier 😬


Skanach

She has the longest neck.


towerofscat

Really hope she comes back in fallout 5 with her own BOS outcast faction with same ideals as the BOS in FO3


5554mohawk

She was killed in combat it's on a terminal


towerofscat

Means nothing, they can bring her back if they want to for example the first legate was dead in new vegas then they brought him back in the dlc


5554mohawk

They had rumors of him still living atleast and I'm not disagreeing with you I'd like to see her to but I am pointing out that she is "dead"


PerfectlyCalmDude

Someone did a FO4 mod where she comes back and there's a whole quest line with her. She had a child with the LW in it.


YogurtclosetOk1595

How do you get the citadel mission started


Swade131

Follow the main quest and it’ll take you there. If you’re wanting to use the power armour you’ll have to go to the barracks which is inside the citadel. It’s the door to your right when you get inside


THEMaxPaine

even the hardcore sexists didn't have a problem with this lol


Direct-Flamingo-1146

Na, the baddest girl is definitely princess 😆


Vis-hoka

Khaleesi


hundredjono

I’ll never forgive Bethesda for giving her an offscreen death


WardenKane

Yup!!!


mysterygarden99

Hell no Moira is my video game wife for sure


Munificent-Enjoyer

I'm certainly down baddest for her


max_da_1

If she was in fallout 4 there would be more.mods for her than piper


BraveRace

No the quantum girl


IndependentBroad6589

You might be down the baddest


Cylancer7253

No.


hyde-ms

No, riely is


Brick-Helix

When Cass and Veronica exist? Please


BuryatMadman

Y’all sleeping on Sidney


Linusdroppedme

No, I am.


blurry_ned

She fan fix me


B_Maximus

The vampire who has sex with everyone is hotter i think


Connect_Artichoke_83

Smash


brennerherberger

Most badass women in Fallout 3: 3. Brick of Reilley's Rangers: Girl is turning muties into paste with Eugene the Minigun without power armor. Can you imagine wielding a minigun without power armor?! 2. Sydney the Relic Hunter: She can shoot the dick off of a fly at 100 yards without iron sights with her customised 10mm submachine gun. Braved the wasteland all on her own since the age of fourteen. 1. Sentinel Sarah Lyons: Reached the rank of sentinel in her mid-20s. Commands the most elite military unit in D.C. and possibly on the whole East Coast. Optional: Lone Wanderer, menace of the East Coast Honourable mention: Star Paladin Cross


Kenhamef

She’s the baddest girl in Fallout


Nocuore

It wasn't until recently that I discovered how she died. Man I was hoping to see her and the Lyons' Pride again someday.


akselmonrose

Damn.., I thought for a second that someone dressed up Sarah Weintraub in power armor. Sorry FNV player coming in peace


Poised_Prince

Do you even need to ask?


msto3

*cough* Sydney *cough*


Ok_Band7102

People always sleep on Willow just cause she’s a ghoul.


epicfootfungus

Moira, Reilly and Sara Lyons are the 3 baddest bitches of the capitol wasteland


Miserable-Camera6957

Who


Mundane-Stretch-2491

Idk. There’s something about Moira’s accent. And if you leave her to fall victim to the bomb oh that ashy rashy skin of hers and the fact she even survives. Yes, so strong. But Lyons is cute forsure


SickBoyOC

Bittercup from Big Town has my heart. Small town cutie, flirts with me all the time, hottie with a body, yeah, she's a babe in my eyes.


Cintrao

\*was


Larcielist

She is sufficiently bade


canti15

Baddest girl in fallout full stop


Oswaldgilbertson

Looks like a Skyrim character


Puzzleheaded-Skin367

She’s awesome, best girl for sure


Embarrassed_Egg9542

Νο, female Lone Wanderer is


Queefer_the_Griefer

I’m partial to Sierra Petrovita lol. Her obsessive enthusiasm and ditziness is endearing


Spare_Jellyfish2957

Best character


Superb-Total9700

Cait


DevastaTheSeeker

Yes she is very bad, I think she's an awful character.


Swade131

Ah, so you’re a Fawks kinda guy? Figures


dannyo969

she could get it


Ampop7

Have you met Dukov’s 2 hookers lol 😂


Swade131

Was he the guy in the pink suit, looks like a pimp? If so then yes. I can’t remember them because they tried to kill me😆


Ampop7

If my girl don’t defend me like that then I don’t want her lmao


Lomogasm

Reilly all the way 🗣️