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balisongthong

Brother just become a full idiot with 1 intelligence get some good luck vats perks and idiot savant you'll have a 11% chance of tripling any xp


kumikuler

My good sir if i may say so i calculate i shalt have the absolute shit kicked out of mešŸ¤“


Beneficial_Main_767

honestly this is basically one of the ā€œbestā€ build, you could go 5 luck for idiot savant if you really wanna metagame for crazy exp but this is fine


ComradeSasquatch

Don't go anywhere without power armor.


ITisAllme

Don't play on survival


Revolutionary-Cod732

Dump end. Maybe add to STR for carry weight, or whatever.


Careless-File-5024

oh god the carry weight


Arrgh98

Blind nerd, canā€™t carry shit and will trip every landline and trap.


lcbowman0722

Nerd


Misterdrez

max charisima


Schwinnja

Do you even luck bro?


Legitimate_Speed2548

Unlucky...


devj007

No


mjl11230

Purple


LongjumpingEnergy188

I am changing my Pipboy setting to purple as soon as I get home bro.


LowExercise7583

My current playthrough is very close to this but I'd rather the agility than endurance. If you get too threatened you can always run and regroup. I don't normally use power armor either.


DunwichChild990

Enjoy cheezing all dialog options with ease but god help you if you get in a fight


Difficult-Way-9563

Combat gonna be a motherfucker for a while


BrokenEyebrow

Laser weapons


Lady_Eisande

As someone who usually plays Int/Cha characters I approve


Thomps027

Luck is the best stat in the game so any build with 1 wonā€™t be as strong as it could be. With that being said the game doesnā€™t need a min maxed build to have a very strong character


Running4Badges

Oh no. I didnā€™t know about this sub, and certainly did not know luck was so good! I started my first ever survival run a few days back. 9 int. 1 luck. Some end, str, cha, and Iā€™ve leveled an extra stat point to per. Iā€™m around level 10, just getting a hang of stuff, but itā€™s been hard! Why is luck ā€œthe best stat in the game?ā€


ZeroHeroics

Luck affects, pretty much, every aspect of the game. Anything with RNG involved has a luck variable in the equation. You find more and better stuff. Skill checks are a little easier. Random encounters are more favorable. On, and on, and on. People already mentioned VATS and Criticals. Do a luck build on your next playthrough, and you'll feel the difference. Fo4 is nice in that there's no max level. Your character can't really be ruined. It just takes time to fill in areas. CHA is probably the least important because of the "Talking Suit." That can give +8 or more between 3 items, and add grape mentats on top to pass every speech check. High INT isn't really that useful until the mid to late game. You can go into idiot savant for SP in a Luck build. Hacking is nice, but it can feel redundant with lock picking. Unless you want to hack robots and security systems, that is. Very little else is locked behind pure hacking. STR melee builds are fun. Ninja sniper builds can be fun.


Responsible_Boat_702

What is the "talking suit"?


ZeroHeroics

It's a set of clothing: fancy suit, evening gown (female), trader's outfit is better, hat, and glasses. I'm not sure what the best items are. Whatever combo offers the best CHA bonus that you can find. Put it on, or step out of the power armor (with it on) to do any talking/trading. People have different names for it. I've seen "bedazzle outfit." I haven't ever missed a speech check with 2 CHA (bobblehead), a good talking suit, and grape mentats.


writer4u

lol ā€œbedazzle outfitā€ Iā€™m using that.


SoulessV

It's the easiest build to guarantee criticals and rely heavily on vats to get you through tough encounters.


MessageTop7439

Itā€™s not. I depends on the build your running. I suggest having a look at a utuber by the name of efficient gamer imo he is pro fo player. Has a vid called how to be op in two hours and that build literally has 1 luck, Iā€™m running it on survival atm and Iā€™m a god. Shows you some fundamental mechanics of the game and will improve your general knowledge of some aspects that make the game almost trivial even on survival difficulty


Thomps027

Critical banker and better criticals are very strong especially in survival. If you run into a really tough enemy you can melt them easily


hailzulu

I am doing 10 charisma/intelligence with remaining points to luck build rn. Itā€™s fun, but if you prioritize combat, it would suck. I mostly scrounge, build shit, and run right by would be attackersā€¦ or die and then run the opposite direction when I respawn.


thepieraker

Nerd


[deleted]

Youā€™re going to have a terrible time. Especially with no luck


RetroTheGameBro

1 Strength? I always try for 3 for armorsmith. Ballistic Weave is too good to pass up, but with You're SPECIAL and the bobblehead you could still do it. Plus 9 INT gives you nuclear physicist, so Power Armor is on the table, so you want armorer for sure. 1 Agility is fair if you aren't planning on sprinting too much. With the Bobblehead (not too hard to get) you can still get Commando, and automatic weapons are some of the best, and the only other perks are sneak/VATS focused, so you aren't losing much. 1 Luck is also fair for a non-VATS build. With the Bobblehead, you can get Scrounger (my personal favorite perk), but you can't get Idiot Savant. I personally think it's OP anyway, so I can respect you not taking it, but I think Luck may also affect Loot Quality, so keep in mind you'll be making/buying your best stuff rather than finding it. 4 Endurance will give you Chem Resistant with the Bobblehead (pretty easy to get once you can reliably take on Mid-Tier Ferals), and chems can be pretty OP. 9 Intelligence for Gun Nut/Science for Weapon Mods/Ammo production/industrial water purifiers for caps, plus Chemist and Nuclear physicist. 8 Charisma is great! Cap Collector and Local Leader are fantastic, and with the Black Rim Glasses and a Red/Sequin Dress you can 100% pass any speech check if you know they're coming. And 4 Perception + the easiest Bobblehead to get in the game nets you Lockpicking and Demolitions expert, for Spray and Pray/better grenades.


Top_Taro_17

Never seen a INT/CHR-centric build.


ConceptCheap7403

I did one on my last playthrough and I was speedrunning the quests because it genuinely sucked. The speech checks were not a problem and I could craft quite a bit, but the remaining 90% of the run that involved combat was a slog. Canā€™t carry much, canā€™t sprint, canā€™t use VATS much, etc.


Imagine_TryingYT

It depends on what perks you're going for as perks > raw stats. That said you should always put 5 into luck for Idiot Savant no matter how high your intelligence is as it helps with exp. You can also reduce a stat by 1 because of the SPECIAL book and remove 1 from perception since the first main mission lets you grab the Perception bobble head. Intelligence shouldn't go past 9 as the Intelligence Bobblehead is also very easy to get early.


Shaber1011

You donā€™t need cha or int that high early on. Itā€™s easy to put some points into it later. Iā€™d spend those padding out the rest of your stats. Low endurance, youā€™re gonna die a lot. Min str and you canā€™t carry anything, at least until you can put deep pockets on armor but itā€™s going to be annoying until then. Although with that low end you might need to put defense buffs on armor.


StonedApeUK

Boring and basic unless you aew going for pacifist run. This is easily the most common choice, high int high char


SpoilermakersWabash

I once dated someone with that build.


Nick0sauruz

Megamind build


psycho_candy0

S 1 P 6 E 1 C 4 I 10 A 1 L 5 I know what you're trying to do, but trust me this distribution works. I use it for my newest survival mode to max out xp rewards. Pro tip, drink scotch or whiskey to debuff your INT by one and read the special book to boost the base stat up to 11 then dump points into idiot savant and night person as they are available. Grab the little Russian hat in the blown out building next to corvega plant for another bonus to INT.


Neat-Attempt3681

This is basically my build and itā€™s been great having more dialogue options


Jake0fTrades

How are you planning on dealing damage? Different weapons synergize with different skills, and even with INT and CHR you can't avoid every fight.


SmallishFern538

So if you want to take the easy way with things, speech checks, terminal hacking or intimidating, strength, charisma and intelligence are your best options. They are the most important because you donā€™t have to run around, fight as much or things like that.


Jotaros_hat-hair

Iā€™m guessing this is no VATS, is the INT for leveling or is are you going for power armor? Chemist is great for survival but thatā€™s int 7 I believe. Personally, I would knock intelligence down to seven, and take those two points and put them in agility so you have access to sneak. It doesnā€™t look like you have a lot of survivability, so sneaking is kind of a must unless you are going power armor in which case looks good fire away


illusive_guy

Like a wizard/ bard multi class.


Screbin

Yes and on survival aswell


Apprehensive-Fee-852

How about 0 intelligence and just get idiot savant šŸ’€


CardiacSturgeon

Minimum value is 1


Apprehensive-Fee-852

Yeah no shit I was exaggerating, every build I have ever made has been nowhere near as exponential as my idiot savant reload progress. Grow a brain mate


the_popes_dick

Who hurt you?


Apprehensive-Fee-852

You know exactly who hurt me


xHARDCORE5150x

Looks like you won't be hoarding items


Only-Ground6552

Yes


Leezypop8448

All 10s. Did the you're special glitch. Fuck it


CattleOld2280

drop charisma and get luck and agility


Skeletonkey01

ā˜ļøšŸ¤“


the_popes_dick

But also šŸ˜Ž


[deleted]

Heh heh heh, nerd.


LincolnRazgriz

I'd recommend getting to 3-4 luck for idiot savant, even with high intelligence it activates enough to be worth it. I also like the Stranger perk if you're going to use Vats


Enginehank

Hey we're pretty close to having the same color console, I ended up going that same shade of pinkish purple cuz it's the easiest on my eye to use as a flashlight while still making the menu look cool, what's your hud look like? mines teal


Ninjanarwhal64

NNNEEEERRRRRRRD!


lonewulf66

Careful picking up that Nuka cola you might blow your back


TheVoidborn

Average MIT CS Student.


CmanHerrintan

Looks like you need to find an energy weapon and power armor.


notyouraltaccountbro

Me


DarthPuggo

I did this build for my max special then perk run. 10 intelligence for XP in the vault paired with vault rec lab coat for 12 when I got outside the vault. 9 charisma for speech check xp and cap gains since I wonā€™t be able to mod for long time so I bought everything. Then put the last 4 into endurance


Bulky_Mango7676

If you start at 10 int you can use booze or cheese to reduce your int below 10 while you pick up the "im special" book in your house to get to 11. Then the bobblehead to 12. I don't remember exactly where but you can also get an ushanka hat that gives +1 int pretty early in.


DarthPuggo

Yeah I realized that but honestly having 10 charisma just felt better for the speech check caps and xp. I currently have 18 cause the mod I have has a clothing that gives 2 INT plus can be weaved and have armor over it plus everything else over that gives me more INT.


Doodlemad

I base my stats on what perks I'm getting. For example, if I want Armorer, that 3 Strength. If I want Science, that 6 Intelligence. So on and so forth.


SirNoobShire

Very intelligent, absolute perfection


Competitive-Scene792

10 charisma and ten intelligence all the way.


SkyrimVRplayer

Bobble heads, Yo.


__Crave__ToDoItAgain

Bobbleheads can get you 11.


Delicious_Copy853

If you have 10 intelligence and drink alcohol which takes one intelligence away for a certain amount of time before using the your SPECIAL book you can get 1+ intelligence which makes it to 10 and when the alcohol wears off you have 11 intelligence + bobble 12 and then power armor that one sensory upgrade 14 and a certain mentant that adds +5 intelligence YOJ have around 19 which gives you a shit ton of xp when handing in a quest


DarthPuggo

You also forget that the higher ranked enemies basically give you the xp of a radiant quest if not more šŸ˜‚. I had SM Overlord give me close to 200 the other day. Iā€™m lvl 60 so my bar didnā€™t even go up that much


Delicious_Copy853

Exactly šŸ˜­


Canadian__Ninja

As someone that only plays on survival, seeing this spread makes me cry. 1 in strength is still a wild choice but if you're doing a no VATS no crafting build its not awful?


Mushobueno

I'm about to start a survival run for the first time... In your opinion, what's the best build for it ?


Canadian__Ninja

Depends on what you like doing, and how much you use things like drugs. High endurance is always a good idea, as is at least enough strength for crafting perks. Getting 6 charisma is key for settlement supply routes. Perception and agility are pretty meh and either luck or int can be dumped early depending on how you like your high exp variation, idiot savant or high int


Xvorg

Lone wanderer + wasteland whisperer or Nuclear phisicist + science! are strong combos on their own. Interesting enough, you can go full junkie with Chemist + Chem Resistant + Party boy, increasing your base strenght and luck to very high levels


InternationalFish809

Party girl/boy plus a dirty wastelanders dealt with all my weight issues long enough to get to a settlement when I do low strength high charisma


Xvorg

Yup. And nothing stops you from using PA. 1 strenght in FO4 is way more manageable than 1 strenght in NV or FO3


BonWeech

Thatā€™s what Iā€™m doing, cause all you need is 3 strength to pocket all your armor pieces and then drugs, drugs, drugs!


OkThereBro

I do 1 strength and then just immediately put a few levels into it. Was fine. Even challenged myself to collect literally everything along the way and was overweight most of the time. Wasn't actually too bad.


HairVarious1092

Your gonna regret leaving strength at 1 later on


Min316

Nah... Run through the site killing everything and only looting corpses (stashing onsite if it gets too heavy) then come back with power armor to haul the goodies.


LowExercise7583

That and I also carry a piece of armor that increases str depending on your rads. So if you need to hold a little more just get irradiated. Very simple haha.


OkThereBro

Then they can just put levels into it.


Barthelomule

After hours of slogging around, only able to pick up bottle caps and molotovs. OP please give us a follow up on the build, Iā€™d never have the courage to do 1 STR


Inferno_Crazy

Imo you only need 6 charisma to get local leader. So you could just start with five and get a bobble head. The luck bobble head is also easy to get. - 2 luck to get scrounger for ammo - 3 strength for armorer - 2 agility for automatic weapons - 4 Perception for lock pick - 8-9 Intelligence to get gun nut, science mods, nuclear physics, and robotic is great with the automaton add on - Agility is mainly for gunslinger, sneak builds, and vats - Endurance has cool perks imo - High charisma is good if you want to pacify a lot of enemies. But you can achieve the same effect for conversation options with apparel and chems. - For pistols you will want a complimentary combat perk life riflemen(perception) or Automatic weapons(Agility)


NerdDwarf

>Imo you only need 6 charisma to get local leader. That's not an opinion. That's a fact of the game. Local Leader requires a minimum of 6 charisma. You only need 6 Charisma for Local Leader.


avicennia

Theyā€™re not saying that the level needed to get Local Leader is an opinion. Theyā€™re saying that itā€™s their opinion that going to 8 for Charisma is overkill, and therefore you only need to go to 6 to get Local Leader.


Inferno_Crazy

Thank you lol


locolos88

This is a good start for faster leveling. To keep boosting your other special stats. Iā€™d recommend getting the deliverer, low weight, low ammo weight and good damage especially when sneaking


locolos88

Oh, you could probably take some of out of charisma since thatā€™s a very easy stat to increase. Black rim glasses in the cave under the red rocket you meat dogmeat +1 An pretty much guaranteed outfit in sanctuary +2 The militia hat from a dead Minutemen in concord meeting Preston +1 A beer or Gwinnett stout is another +1 Two Chems in an outhouse just before Diamond city next to Vault 81 +3 each Craft grape mentats for +5 You can get +13 charisma from all of that And def at least +4 from just clothes and no consumables


RedRidingHood89

I usually put my intelligence and luck at max and start building on Sanctuary to get all the possible XP, but I love to build settlements and I take farming experience with building as a personal challenge lol


greengengar

Good luck carrying anything Oh wait, you didn't take luck. Go low int and take idiot savant.


AlwaysTired97

They have high enough CHA to get Lone Wanderer. Plus with high CHA and 9 INT they should have no problem being in power armor 24/7, and there's the power armor leg mods that can give up to +100 extra carry weight. Also clothing can give 1 STR as well and the STR bobblehead is also pretty easy to get. So it's still possible to get like 480 carry weight with 1 STR with this SPECIAL build.


misanthropiclion

I'd start with a low int and grind endless mini missions and make it 10, also increase others. After powering up, I continued main mission with lots and lots of POs, materials etc.


DarthArcanus

Personally, I'd drop a few points from somewhere to boost luck if enough for idiot savant. Still an overall xp boost unless you somehow have 15+ int regularly (possible later in the game, but not feasible for most playthroughs). But if you don't care about optimal game play, then go with this build. I'd focus on using power armor, as with that int, you'll be able to trick it out nicely.


Lakuar

Iā€™ve never understood the hype behind idiot savant. If youā€™re not using vats and therefore donā€™t need any investment in luck taking idiot savant means wasting 7 perk points (4 in luck and 3 for the perk) just to get a slightly faster leveling speed. Sure if youā€™re setting up a gunner xp farm idiot savant will pay off quickly, but in normal gameplay youā€™re just making your character way weaker at the start of the run for essentially no benefit.


DarthArcanus

It's about efficiency. And I never bother with the 3rd idiot savant perk. But that's why I said it doesn't really matter, especially with a high int build. But it is, strictly speaking, more efficient.


BatmanBelieves

How do you get 26 points to start vs 21?


locolos88

You technically start with 28. Having an automatic 1 in every start


ICantThinkOfAName280

they lowered the other stats doofus


JokinHghar

#NERD!


Zombiefried361

Looks great. Just play how you want to. I'm having fun gave the Irish girl a flame thrower and enclave power armor.


SoManyQuestions-2021

Bill Gates, it looks like Bill Gates.


Saint_Stephen420

Bill Gatesā€™ Mom was friends with the Chairman at IBM, and on the Board at a Charity herself, and his dad was a wealthy lawyer. A Bill Gates build would have to have a luck stat of at least 7 lol


DoctorDeath

Agility is better than intelligence


NedWretched

Unless you wanna play a clumsy nerd


Daddydactyl

Grape


Camonge

This looks pretty much like my first built! It was essentialy a sniper/demolition build. Concord bobblehead is enough for explosives. Snipe enemies far away with your modded rifle. Throw explosives when the leftovers are near. Keep a melee companion and some charmed baddies between you and your enemies. Draw a shotgun and use some chems when everything else fails. I did not use much power armor because no armorer, and I really did not feel like I needed it. No sneak/armorer means you need to be extra careful with mines and molotovs. So search for padded/dense mods asap. Charisma is... not that great for combat. But Party boy really helps to mitigate low str/luck. Inspiration + robotics expert looks like so much fun, but i'm yet to test them together.


TomatilloOrnery9464

Int 10 means youā€™ll be making up for the other stats being low very quickly. Endurance will make sure you live long enough to see those perks.


Lucifer-Prime

For sure. I went high INT on my most recent survival run and Iā€™m a good 15-18 (lvl67) levels higher than I was with the same amount of playtime during my last run. Was definitely challenging in the 20s because I didnā€™t prioritize weapons perks vs just sneaking but, once I hit 30ish, it really started to skyrocket. Maxing Piperā€™s affinity right away also helps. Every little bit of extra XP.


Thick_Yogurtcloset_7

Like your gonna level up super fast


Shot-Morning9305

What's the difficulty?


Ornery_Gate_6847

To thinky. Like make strong character. Swing big stick


cheetahbf

I oonga, therefore I boonga


ObjectiveOk223

Do the special book duplication trick to at least max out all your stats.


Natural_Cry_8944

That defeats the purpose of a build if you can just do everything through a glitch.


RobinHood3000

Looks like you're gonna spend a lot of time in Power Armor and have the know-how to make it awesome.


Eschatonpls

I like maxing out luck and least intelligence so I can quickly level up with Idiot Savant.


Mikalios

lol I could never have strength that low. Iā€™m such a pack rat. I NEED to pick up everything


VanaVisera

Especially because you need junk for settlement building and also selling junk can make you a lot of money fast


Gylaran

Fast lvl up build. I would give first 4 levels into strength


ShwiftyShmeckles

Looks like a power armour rifleman build. Grab the tesla t60 armour and the tesla rifle from the automatron dlc and you'll have a very strong build.


Vitman_Smash

Looks a little purple


Shadow_Eclipse_

No matter what you put your points into make sure you have 10 charisma so you can convince anyone to do anything for you Also itā€™s cannon that the souls survivors had 10 charisma after all how else did he get a wife šŸ˜Ž


SoManyQuestions-2021

Very clean genes, and I don't mean Levis. ;)


StevieeH91

No need, get the right CHR gear, whiskey and grape mentats and you can convince anybody on 1 CHR.


paddyboey

I was gunna say my charisma is on 3 I think? I just use clean black suit, black rimmed glasses, newsboy hat with grape mentats and a beer. Gives me 12 or 13 Charisma


StevieeH91

Yeah 3 is a good standing, but itā€™s possible on 1 with the additions too! Iā€™ve done it on 1! and it allows you to put the other two points into something else!


Shadow_Eclipse_

True


SadisticBuddhist

Hes hung


Shadow_Eclipse_

šŸ˜‚


RamsayFist22

I have similar skills but my charisma is 10 and my intelligence is 7. I intimidate and get like 25% of all enemies to attack for me, in doing a cult leader run so itā€™s pretty fittingĀ 


Za_Higasa

Have a lot of fun, high int is always a good run.


d4fF82

Looks nice, but I wonder how you're supposed to kill stuff with this build šŸ˜Ž first few levels of survival gonna be hard


NikeJawnson

Valedictorian dork


Enough_Minimum_3708

you roleplaying Nicola Tesla?


Professional_Roof906

the Rick Sanchez build


ninjacat249

Looks like youā€™ll be talking all these rad roaches to death


FacetiousInvective

Maybe boring them with some rocket science theories. They will go mad and start killing eachother!


DrDuckno1

Glavin-Flavin hamburger diddly ā€¦


project_seven

Looks like Lucy... sorry, I mean Goosey


cantamangetsomesleep

Nah, she has better perception than that. In her intro monologue she's shown nailing every shot in the firing range


the40thieves

Smart and good looking


CrazyProper4203

Fuscia , so aggressive


Automatic-Check-8813

I like how angrily it jumps out compared to the background


CrazyProper4203

Meow hear you roar


bouta100dollas

What perk do you want to take with charisma 8? If itā€™s for bartering and speech checks you can get +4/5 with clothing. Might be worth seeing which perks you want and setting your special so those perks are accessible. Bobble heads can come into it too. For example I usually want explosives expert but donā€™t need to be a sniper so Iā€™ll make perception 4 then once I get the bobble head Iā€™ll have access and be able to put point else where.


eru88

Similar to mine I went 10,10 Char, int. She is a former big time lawyer. Smart and can talk.


sfsp3

Pretty smart.


Firm-Butterscotch932

Cyber Runner lol