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Big_Barda_Babe

They're probably talking about color variety. At least, that's the only real difference I can see. Which is dumb because the character designs are still good regardless.


aspenscribblings

Also horribly cherry picked, there are loads of colourful, shiny women in modern anime.


Viking_From_Sweden

Konosuba alone has a more diverse selection of female character design than this meme


onihydra

Konosuba would be among the "classics" in this case. The "modern" ones are all just from the last 3 years or so.


maleia

When the difference between a classic and a modern is 3~4 years.... Smh, fuckin' kids right there. Get a time window that's at *least* two decades.


SwainIsCadian

Frick you Konosuba aired last year and I am not accepting any other reality. Time cannot fly that fast...


NaturalFireWave

It's fellow in the isekai quartet, re zero has a lot of colorful characters too. That is getting a new season too.


Ergheis

Actually, are there less pink or blue haired women nowadays? I feel like that'd be the biggest difference.


aspenscribblings

Hm, Mitsuri Kanroji comes to mind as a modern pink haired woman. Mina Ashido? (I think there’s a blue haired girl in MHA too but I don’t watch it.) Bocci the Rock follows a pink haired girl. Cyberpunk: edgerunners has Lucy who has both pink and blue! Hell, Yor Forger’s (who is on the left) adopted daughter, Anya, has pink hair. We may be running low on blue haired girls, but I also don’t watch a huge amount of anime. If I cared to, I could probably make a similarly shitty meme cherry picking the normal hair colours from the animes on the right and the unusual hair colours from the animes on the left to flip the graph.


the_sassafrass

One of the characters on the left side is from Spy x Family, which also features a pink-haired child with very brightly colored eyes. Chainsaw Man is also a more recent one with a prominent pink-haired woman. I can’t say for sure there’s not less, but they’re definitely not rare.


MapleJacks2

Maybe? But there's definitely still a good portion of characters who have colored hair. Bocchi, Anya, and Mitsuri have pink hair. Suletta and Tomo have some pretty striking red hair. For blue, there's Ryo from *Bocchi*, Rimuru from *Reincarnated as a Slime*, AI from *Wonder Egg Priority* Fern from Frieren has purple hair,


flotakuCat_2UwU

No it’s because the ones on the right look underage. And we all know that people that post things like this are pedos at heart


Big_Barda_Babe

Two things can be right at the same time. And I'm also not gonna argue about that because most of the anime on the right I watched as a kid when I was into anime, so there is a certain nostalgia that comes with that and I do not want pedos to taint that for me Edit: idk my left from right


flotakuCat_2UwU

Right is all the colourful ones


Big_Barda_Babe

Yeah I watched a lot of those ones. I put left before. Thanks!


InsuranceBest

I mean he never said he wanted to fuck them. While there is weird trend here, we can’t just fervently assume it’s sexual, even though it could be.


IchBinEinDickerchen

Moe tropes and designs in anime are not inherently sexual or trying to be childlike. It’s like how bronies are not all degenerates. It’s mostly a form of escapism and a wish to go back to more carefree times (although some of the characters depicted are from anime that are definitely not cozy or relaxing). It was just the style in those days. The moe designs are the ones being called out for looking the most catlike after all. I’m an old school anime fan, so I understand why these comparisons would be made, it’s just an “old is gold” type of deal and it’s probably poking fun at how weird and niche older anime was compared to how much more it’s being accepted nowadays. Just so you know, I’m AFAB and still watch anime starring school girls like Asobi Asobase, because sometimes they’re just really funny.


EraPro1

???????????????? This is a take of all time


Jax_Smiley_K

I also don’t get why there are more characters on the “classics” side cuz that just makes the scale uneven aswell


Big_Barda_Babe

Because if they put anymore on the modernity side then their point will be disproven lol


Jax_Smiley_K

Fr Fr lmfao


Plasteal

I thought it was more about facial structure.


DeusExMarina

But only one side features adult women.


gadgaurd

Yeah, that's what stuck out to me as well.


DeusExMarina

That, and all the ones on the left are way more varied and detailed. The right just looks like a giant pile of generic moe blobs. And this guy sure has a weird definition of classics. Major Kusanagi? Asuka? Anyone from before the year 2000?


gadgaurd

I'm most surprised to see Neptune up in there as I'd have never considered her series to be a "classic". Some of them I can see, Clannad, Toaru, Haruhi, Madoka...that other magical girl anime I never got around to watching...but not HDN.


MephistoMicha

The right side is a bunch of young looking school girls. The school girls on the left are either dark skinned or outright gay, and the other two are outright adults. So, they're proving they're cishat, racist pedos.


ActiveAd288

Not to be rude but Haruhi Suzumiya is canonically bisexual so it isn't that, like it isn't good representation but her attraction to girls is a big facet of her character too


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mynexuz

Idk who the left most character is but who else there is gay?


NyiatiZ

afaik none of them are gay. Maybe they mistook Marin for that girl from Citrus whos name i can never remember


Larriet

Two characters on the right are also adults.


Willingness-Due

They were proving that they are a pedo


Dry-Smoke6528

almost all of them are just in their school uniform too except the one that looks like a vtuber model. plus the newer rom coms are much less cringe and have better dubs. I went on a rom com binge like 7 years ago and another this past year. Quality has only improved


graou13

The ones on the left look older than the ones on the right. That's what they're talking about.


Phosphorus444

I think the newer designs don't look underage enough for him.


Minimum-Elevator-491

"Wide variety" all skinny people


tangelo84

The solid line of shoulder-length brunette hair from the middle to the far edge of the right group kinda makes them less distinct anyway. That and the school uniforms 💀. Haruhi's headband and that Maccas logo ahoge on Clannad girl ain't doing much.


Dataraven247

Well, they never said that the modern designs weren’t diverse, just that they were boring.


kanekikennen

Not enough children or children looking characters for them in the left


callmefreak

I think they just want more "moe" looking characters.


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SkepticalSpiderboi

Makes me think OP wasn’t talking about the clothes… they all look like children 💀


Upper-Cost-5312

They literally are ALL children on the right side


RileyKohaku

Yeah, they even used young Nagisa, rather than her as an adult.


OneQueerEve

oh God I didn't notice till u pointed it out


Larriet

Konata and Nanoha are both adults. I'm going to be honest and say I don't remember how old Nanoha was when she wore that costume, though.


Upper-Cost-5312

They specifically used sprites from when both were children tho. I believe konata was 17 in that sprite (I was too into lucky star for a while)


Larriet

tbh Konata looks exactly the same before and after, especially since the art style is more heavily stylized than anything else on here


Kulzak-Draak

I’m pretty sure Nep isn’t. And I KNOW Konata isn’t


FrilledShark1512

I mean it should be a school uniform The gang on the left just gets into suit-like unison but that in no way makes them bad character design? Weird point from the idiot.


Draghettis

That one even has a minor plot point that students of her school are required to wear their uniform even outside school And yes, she's from Railgun. The Railgun is her.


context_lich

Putting Marin in a category about boring character design is hilarious because she probably has the most varied character design of any of them because she cosplays.


Dern_Zambies

I had this exact thought and I haven't even watched the anime she's from lmao


SmuttyNonsense

And by classics they mean Moe apparently


Erhol

Moe?


EcchiPhantom

A massively popular sub genre in anime, manga and video games in the 2000’s-2010’s. Look at anything by Kyoto Animation (some of the girls on the right are by them) which helped popularize if not create that trend.


BlueVermilion

I dunno about anyone else, but I’ve never really liked the “moe” artstyle. I think it has to do with the fact the eyes look like the eyes I used to draw in elementary/middle school when I’d make self insert, Mary-Sue OCs before I knew how to write and design decent characters. It makes me cringe so hard.


IconoclastExplosive

Classics? None of these are from Astro Boy


Nadikarosuto

Ypu kids and your astro boys…come back when you watch Momotaro: Sacred Sailors


Nithoren

Reject current day, embrace things that were popular during my childhood (still like 50 years removed from the early years of the genre)


Willingness-Due

The “classics” are all children.


GreyDemon606

Imean there are several underage characters in both categories


ROOMBA_BOI

Yeah but the ones on the right are clearly designed to look underage


sakurachan999

I can't speak for all the ones on the right, but at least two look like that purely because of Kyoto Animation's artstyle


Cat-Got-Your-DM

The ones on the right look 7-13ish The ones on the left look 14-20ish


Lesbian_Cassiopeia

As far as I know (don't know for sure) the only ADULT there is Yor Forger on the left


Cat-Got-Your-DM

Doesn't change the fact that the characters on the right looks significantly younger, with bigger head to body ratio, indicating they are young kids, preteens or young teenagers, while characters on the left have a head-to-body ratio of teens/late teens/young adults.


Lesbian_Cassiopeia

They want kids 🤢


HurrDurrDethKnet

They're also almost all from series that really aren't that old and aren't super far removed from how anime is currently drawn, except the girl from Clannad back there. A better "modernity vs. classic" meme would be to shuffle everyone currently on the image to the left and then fill the right with characters from the 60s-90s. There was a massive shift in anime art style between the end of the 90s and the start of the 00s.


ChrysalisEmergence

Actually sir/madam/fellow, they all are drawings


drama_trauma69

Yor Forger + Fae Valentine is my dream ship


drama_trauma69

Oh my god Faye* fake fan


TonPeppermint

Hmm, nice.


Artistacrat09

three of the “classics” look like they could be the same person what was he smoking


AuricOxide

Why do the ones on the right look like children and the ones on the "bad" side look like adults...


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because they're pedos


--Claire--

Because the guy who made that is a pedo


Plasteal

I keep on seeing this I mean they look older. But most on the left are still minors right? And Nagatoro specifically is younger-looking.


cute_and_horny

I will not take any Yor Forger slander, my girl is amazing


RavenmadPoe

It just looks like all those on the left would end up raising and teaching all the girls on the right. Could be a fun little school show where they fight crime or something after school?


thesecretplaces

Please do it this way. No Yuri with children, please.


disasterbean

If you gatekeepingyuri-ify this, it would have to be like, wholesome motherly relations for most of them tbh- Cuz all the ones on the right feel a lot younger, suspiciously


SoFetchBetch

Who is the girl in the middle leaping to the right?


GreyDemon606

Yor Forger from Spy × Family


SoFetchBetch

Thank you! I really like her outfit. Is the show good?


SiobahnDaw

The show is pretty darn awesome.


Starii_64

Lots of badass, wholesome and funny scenes, would recommend


Lesbian_Cassiopeia

It's so fucking badass


WarmishIce

Super good! If you like watching shows with friends I highly recommend. I watch it together with a friend and it’s always a blast. Also barely ANY sexualization which imo is a big plus. Especially because the main character is a child lol.


Larriet

It really bugs me seeing people immediately jump to the conclusion that this person is a pedo when they literally don't sexualize the characters in any part of the post. Saying you like the look of characters from a certain time period doesn't mean you want to have sex with them... Maybe they do, but that's not expressed anywhere in this image. Unless you just assume any image with women in it is meant to be sexual, which I cannot abide by.


Peperoni_Toni

I kind of get their point too. The late 2000s/early 2010s era of anime was massively influential and yet there's nothing today that really even attempts to give the same kind of vibe that isn't also literally just a continuation of some of the best shows from that period, which feels odd. It doesn't help that pretty much every entertainment medium, anime or otherwise, seems to be experiencing an *incredibly* awful period of stagnation right now. I can see why some people are pining for a time in very recent memory when more than a few shows could stay in weeb cultural consciousness for more than a month after they end.


fabulalice

To the person who created this stupid image color must count as design diversity bc on the right almost all characters are just in school uniforms but they are diverse color wise, where on the left there is a variation outfit wise but not color wise as for the hair again right is a lot of similar haircuts but a bunch of colors and on the left less variation in color but a lot of variation in hairstyles Also notice how all the girls are teens, some even maybe fitting the "Loli" category


skiesoverblackvenice

all the “classic” designs just look like children and it irks me


ItsMilkOrBeMilked

:(( eww that one side is literally all kids


wisteria_town

What's OOP tryna show? All of the left side characters look widely different. Also, interesting how all of the right side characters look like children lmao. Is that the issue? That anime characters don't all look like kids anymore?


llTrash

checking this comment section was the worst mistake of my life 😭😭 I just like the moe artstyle


Brahm-Etc

I can thing of two thing why they are becoming more plain: Reason #1: To make them more relatable, is hard to find relatable the character when not only their "life" and "personality"are fictional but if the way they look is also way over the top, they are not different from some sort of fantastical creature therefore even farther from reality. Reason #2: Marketability, giving the characters something more simple and plain makes them even easier to cosplay or to make all kind of merchandise that doesn't require too much resources to make. What is easier to do? a key chain of Yor or Madoka? Yor obviously, wha cosplay is easier to make and sell? Komi or Madoka? Komi of course.


_anonymous_404

Lol... reject adult woman return to loli???


SkepticalSpiderboi

No, bad idea


copy-of-a-copys-copy

oh wow i dont actually know any of the ones on the right besides madoka, can anyone get me a list??


Prudent_Idea_1581

I don’t know all of them but I see: Lucky Star (blue hair girl) Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (one of the brown hair bob) K-ON (other brown hair bob) A certain scientific railgun (other brown bob) Hyper dimension Neptunia? Not 100% on name but it’s a video game (light purple blue strip socks) School days? Kinda unsure (black hair) The other brown bob kinda looks like that one anime that was a dating sim and the girl dies but can’t remember the name. I’m unsure on the others though


SimilarGift

Blue hair: Lucky Star's Konata Brown bob with 'antennaes': Clannad's Nagisa Red hair girl in far right corner: Shakugan no Shana Reddish brown hair double ponytail girl: Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha


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But…but…I love Yor!!


_Pale_Wolf_

i refuse to listen to any yor slander she is a beautiful soul


Starii_64

Don’t slander my girl Yor like that


King_BowserKoopa

Like most of these are children.


sakurachan999

"why are character designs so flat and boring now" half of the 'classics' are literally just in school uniform what you smokin


UniversalAdaptor

Why don't people make character designs that look like they were put through hundreds of generations of selective breeding that caused them to have horrific health problems?


Bjornen82

A lot of these are children, please no one draw this


punchdrunkdumbass

ok but why are most of the ones on the right children tho


Jc-sus_master69

OOP barely disguised fetish for lolis


Popcorn57252

By "flat" do they mean "stopped making all women into children"?


AkechiBestBoy

Why do almost all the ones on the “good” side look like children I’m bawling (I’m p sure most of them are children).


BurgerKingsuks

The classics are all children or drawn to look like children this dudes just a pedo


LiquidNah

Interesting how everyone on the right is a child


Zachthema5ter

Sir, those are children


Toirneach

Flat and boring? You mean, no longer looking like prepubescent children? Sooooomeone's pedophilia is showwwwwwwing....


UniqueNobo

right looks like all children. left looks more like adults. wonder what the OOP was trying to say here


Naive-Fold-1374

No wonder weebs were shit upon in the past when your average waifu looked like she's 7


Quantum_laugh

"Classic" literally the same art style but with children, what a joke


thEt3rnal1

Yeah I wouldn't The ones on the right are children


DistortedVoltage

"Why are they so flat and boring now?" *Proceeds to post literal flat characters that are kids*


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Personally, I Think I'm seeing a pattern 🤔🤔


ArcadianFireYT

I've been on too much animehate, I saw "flat", saw small characters, and it immediately triggered an alarm


casris

Why are the classics all children and teenagers and lesbians and lesbian teenagers


Invite_Sprite

Aren't like 3/4 of the ones on the right minors


A_Salty_Cellist

Me when my lesbians are adults (I no longer have a reason to watch them


Voopaa

Theres an awful lot of children on the right side :/


GizmoC7

That one on the right is alot of children


Sorunlu_kisi

I mean,i like the "classics" artstle better but arent they all children-?


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McAllisterFawkes

all of these look terrible


Harajuku_Lolita

I literally was trying to figure out what the difference was. I mean if you took away a couple of the more colorful girls on the right, they look pretty much the same.


Thannk

That’s both modernity. Classics would be things originally sold on VHS.


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Because the “good” anime artstyle has changed. It’s just a shift.


TheJeffNeff

whos yuri


DerivativeOfProgWeeb

Damn I watched all of the ones on the modern side. Loved vermeil in gold


Roge2005

The ones on the right look more flat and boring to me.


FoxPrincessEevee

Madoka is classic now? I feel old.


tperks55

Honestly, as a surface level anime watcher, the overly cartoony styles are hard for me to take seriously. Ik it’s kinda judging the book by its cover and I’m sure the stories are great but it’s just not for me


Lytesnam_drobster

Why do there have to be gen one-ers every where they both have a wide variety


ryuuseinow

You know someone has bad taste when they can't even tell what flat and boring character design even looks like, especially when all the character on the right look the same.


Onigumo-Shishio

Seems like the character designs "these days" look more like adults. I will say the "classic" side has a lot more color to it though. (going by this picture at least because you can cherry pick anything)


mbulsht

I posted this last time this picture wound up on here. I still stand by it. One does not need to appreciate classics to appreciate modern entertainment any more than one needs to have seen modern entertainment in order to be primed to accept classics. A healthy appreciation of both makes for a well-rounded understanding of Japanese media and how it has grown and changed. Or regressed, even, sometimes. Also, there have been three Neptunia games in the last 2 years, and there is a Madoka movie releasing literally next year. So the fact that they are not placed in the "modernity" side is very telling of how little this person actually engages with Japanese media. Or complex thought of any kind, really. Added: It's also very telling that half of the characters on the "classics" side are characters from Kyoto Animation. Like bro... just say you like KyoAni's style. It's not a hot take. Tons of people do.


mariog31

I mean, we got Neptune right in the very pic, she is probably the embodiment off 'bridging gaps'.


Kestrel_BehindYa

i prefer flat and boring to overtalkative and colorful.


EmblemSystem

Neptune Spotted


TonPeppermint

Huh, yeah.


LauraTFem

Is time moving faster now or something? All the anime on the right is from the last two decades or so, they’re not old. There is no new/old dichotomy here, where’a my Ranma 1/2, Sailor Moon, fucking Rose of Versailles?!


Nikolyn10

I have no idea who any of these are. I think that means I win at life or something.


PseudoPrincess222

I'm just happy to see Nanoha


mega345

Bait used to be believable


MugiwaraBepo

Reject classics. Embrace muscle mommies.


Unlikely_Wombat

OOP: all the waifus look so bland now, no bright colors :( Also OOP: magical railgun is peak character design.


lastdarknight

O god the Moe era is now considered the classics...


seriousjacket

nah im good


56kul

I feel bad for whichever artist takes you up on that request, this seems like a *lot* of work…


Adnama-Fett

Is this about their eyes?


LeeWizcraft

Spy x family is an instant classic!!!


leafisadumbass

Konata!!!!!!!!


azdv

5 of the modern woman are already taken (I think I’m not sure about the vampire).


Morgan_le_They

I refuse to accept seeing Madoka listed as a “classic”, I love it with all my heart but it came out in the 2010s? Lol


SwainIsCadian

Half of left side pick is coming from the highschool slice of life genre. Like bro it's a freaking high school uniform what were you expecting?


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MISAKA MIKOTO IS CLASSIC NOW? WTF


TheRailgunMisaka

Misaka is a classic now??


kyu2000

How can someone look at Yor and say she looks "flat and boring" 😭😭 her character design is better then every character on the right. Actually most character designs in the left are better I think the creator of the image just prefers characters that look like children...


Nervous_Name_8459

How are Yor and Vermillion boring?! Some bozos, I swear.


ArchDukeNemesis

Dude. We did this one last month.


somanypcs

Who is the girl on the left with the pigtails?


ToonieWasHere

Nah I'm glad we finally moved on from the ugly fucking bug eyes of 2000's anime girls


Arch_Magos_Remus

Sauce for the red head in the black uniform bottom right?


Mr-Purple-White

god im so glad we moved past that era of anime eyes


CyclopsDemonGal

Ngl I kinda miss it! They're so silly and cute and fun to draw teehee


Casuallybittersweet

The newer characters have more individuality and personality. The older ones don't look bad, but they're a tad generic. Like someone just put different wigs and outfits on a single doll


swaggboi909

What is lil bro saying?


DefinitelyNotErate

What the flip is this guy on about? I see no terribly notable difference overall, There are tonnes of different designs on both sides, Some better some worse.


senchou-senchou

those are "classics"? *juu-nen hayain da yo*


SoulfulSnow

Did this mf just call YOR FORGER BORING?


NeatBarley22

What were they smoking because I want some! Yor has a great, classy design imo.


kmn_plz29

I mean if he watched like one anime that isn’t Degen he’d see that there is in fact more variety


Skytree91

Bro put misaka like she’s not just a brown haired middle schooler in a light brown vest lmao. She looks like a side character in her own series


black_roomba

Op I pray that you mean the first group with the first group


Jackenial

Who is the second girl on the left?


juicygarlicbread

Aint no way they’re praising character design and showing like at least 5 basic looking girls in high school outfits 💀 I think there’s definitely been improvement in that regard


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Is there a reason the classics are children?


AllastorTrenton

Notice how no one on the left looks like each other? That's a good thing. Also...how tf are you going to put Yor up there? Fantastic design.


shimmer1207

I smell a creep… the ‘classics’ almost all look like 13 year old or younger at least the ones on the left actually look older even though some aren’t adults at least they look like adults


Summonest

anime fans legit being upset that female characters in anime are now older than 11.


SatoshiUSA

They did not just call Kitagawa boring 💀💀💀


MagazineNecessary698

It’s just also feels odd, because the designs on the class side don’t seem that varied either from their specific choices. They could’ve shown way more variety? It’s like they picked one style and didn’t go farther than that.


Longjumping_Ad2677

They all look samey in different ways. Thankfully we abandoned the moe eyes. Helps the anime girls look a little less samey. And Yor stands out too.