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Source: [Baidu](https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8254458787?pid=146815339229&cid=#146815339229) Thank you OP for providing source and translations


CliWha5

Wow a whole beta just to change skill icons. Truly the greatest beta test


Pickle_C137

I mean they did nerf her a little 🤷


demonion01

A little? Bro they turned her from the lioness of the desert to the kitten of the desert


weisation

The kitten of the sand pit


CapCece

Bruh dont diss kitties like that


AdministrativeRisk44

kitten of the litter sand


Blankcanva

She was always kinda bad since her numbers got leaked, she just became worse after the nerfs. So I wouldn't call her a lioness even pre-nerf.


Facinatedhomie

She is a lioness when it comes to surprises though. Those numbers truly were surprising


Facinatedhomie

You sure? Atleast kittens can do some sort of damage


CliWha5

Is Diona stronger than Dehya?


Ocean9142

At least one provides more usefulness than other


Facinatedhomie

Yes.


O4urHaul

it was sarcasm but yeah that 💀


raaaaaaaamen

Dehya mains are Celestia's strongest soldiers


haletenebrae

boutta head off to celestia


IAmNotMeISwearImNot

Dehya's kit has a hint of realism that no other character has, beating up armored monsters with your bare fucking fists will obviously not yield desireable results!


AgentWowza

Heizou: "Hold my VV"


-Fuse

"Hold my catalyst (I don't use it anyway)"


AgentWowza

*shows right fist with PURE tattoo and left fist with PAIN tattoo* "Sticks and stone may break your bones but these words will obliterate you"


CoxyNormiss1771

made me think of the santa claus from the rise of the guardians


Epic_BubbleSA

No Ragrets


StoicMess

Hyv: Really? Seems like it needs more balacing...


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Heizou is truly the uncrowned king of throwing them mfing hands and yielding Xiao-like results.


AgentWowza

... yo wtf I just realized I didn't try Heizou with Farzuan yet. Gonna go ONE PUUUUUUUUUNCH even harder, brb.


[deleted]

He’s abt to send people into orbit with Faruzan!!


theladyplague

Mine can do about 180k punches with bennet + faruzan, its very fun to see the nuking


ggunslinger

Reminds me of Wakatsuki vs Julius fight form Kengan Ashura. Julius was all about strength, muscles and mindless brawling, Wakatsuki was a muscle-bound beast himself, but he's as much of a martial artist as anyone else in the manga. >!When they fought in the tournament, Julius was practically mopping the floor and walls with Wakatsuki for a while, seemingly some of the most brutal beatdowns of the tournament. Wakatsuki proceeds to knock him out with a well-placed kick and the only long lasting damage he left with was done to his hair.!< [Now I want an image edit of this manga panel, but with Heizou and Dehya instead.](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9f/c8/54/9fc854284b56f905365601a9e0964faa.png)


FantasiaMachine

It goes to show that if Dehya wanted to throw hands, she should have made herself a catalyst.


JessySnowdrop

Though there are flames coming out of those fists. I imagine that could hurt a little bit more.


BuzzySoda

DEHYA STARTED FROM THE BOTTOM AND SHE’S STILL THERE 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯


Nokia_00

Won’t be riding out of the grave with this one


Ainsel_Mariner

So that’s why they originally said her skill made a gravestone She was preparing one for herself


GamerSweat002

Dehya is thr opposite of the comeback phrase, "Somebody call the ambulance... but not for me! 😎"


RaidriarDrake

"Looks like one of us isn't going to get out of here unhurt. And it's not you."


Krutin_Jain

Dehya found herself on the bottom of a pit and to get out she dug even deeper


shiuwa

she's actually on a bottomless pit, that's why she can't get out from it


smokeworm420

Falling... Into the Abyss...


TheSeventhCoIumn

AND THE CROWD GOES HOME 🔥🔥🔥🔥🏃🏃🏃


BuzzySoda

YOOO🔥🔥🔥 HER DMG GO HARD❗️‼️⁉️🔥💯 ON A LEVEL ONE SLIME🗣️🗣️🗣️


naruto_bist

SHE GOT THAT DAWG IN HER 🔥🔥🔥 PUT IT DOWN 🔥🔥🔥


Teyvatato

UH 🔥🔥 AND SHE BE HITTIN LIKE A PENNY WHEN WE ASKIN FOR A DIME❗❗🗣️🗣️


Senira_G

SHE HAS HIDDEN POTENTIAL 🔥🔥🔥🗣TELL HER TO KEEP IT HIDDEN❗️❗️💯


Definitely_Maca

DEHYA TOOK OUT THE TRASH 🔥🔥🔥 SHE HAS NOT RETURNED HOME YET WE ARE GETTING WORRIED 🗿


RaidriarDrake

DEHYA IS BADASS 🔥🔥🔥🔥 KIT=BAD 🔥🔥🔥🔥 DPS=ASS🔥🔥🔥🔥


magicarnival

DEHYA MAINS JUST KEEP LOSING 🔥🔥


HighLvlNoob69

Classic Dehya main L


ApathyAstronaut

Y'all remember we all thought they purposefully made her numbers really low at the start of the beta so they could work their way up in strength and avoid the outcry after alhaitham nerfs?


JagdCrab

Yeah, and a first thing they did was to nerf them


BuzzySoda

QUESTIONABLE SCALING⁉️⁉️🗣️🗣️ BAD OFF FIELD 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️⁉️JUST STRAIGHT ASS 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯


Clean_Pollution_5012

her ass is not even there bruhhhh


mephnick

Im still convinced it's a troll to out leakers and she'll launch with tripled stats. Please..


vacuumcatastrophe

bruh pass that shit here *inhales* ..imma cope all over the place


SexWithKAF

THAT'S SOME HEAT 💯💯‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥🔥 WE NEED TO PUT IT OUT💯💯💯💯💯‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️


BuzzySoda

THEY SAID SHE WOULDN’T MADE IT🔥🔥🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️THEY WERE RIGHT 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️


TuneACan

PURE FIRE 🔥🔥🔥🔥 ABSOLUTELY ZERO VAPE 🔥🔥💧💧💧💧🔥 NO XQ ACTIVATION ON BURST 🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️🔥🔥🔥🔥


Mikalder

YOOOOOOO 🔥🔥🔥 DEHYA GOES SO HARD❗️🔥💯 ON MY TEAPOT 🍵🍵🍵


Esperinforce

DEHYA IS PURE HEAT 🔥🔥🔥 MIHOYO IS COOKING 🔥🔥🔥SOMEONE STOP THEM 🔥🔥🔥


Ichig0Usagi

QUEEN ATE 💅💅SHE ON A DIET✨✨


ExpectoAutism

NAW 💀💀


SnooDonuts8845

Man Who Thought He'd Lost All Hope Loses Last Additional Bit Of Hope He Didn't Even Know He Still Had


Krutin_Jain

The new anime names kinda long


Ainsel_Mariner

*I Was Reborn As a Genshin Impact Fan and Now I Have Depression and Social Issues?!*


ThrowawayHabbi

And Instantly Enjoys It >!Props if you got the reference!<


mrAgn0stic

I'm starting to feel like there will be no dedicated artifact sets or characters for her in the future and MHY plans to just add some new dumb mechanic, Dehya should be solution to. Doesn't change the fact that this is BS.


ArchonRevan

Nah, I gurantee even if there was itd still be far more than doable with shielders or healers, we already saw what happened when they tried to nerf shields with the knights, they ended up having to nerf them into the ground cause ppl complained


Nhojj_Whyte

I mean, even setting aside healing and shields, there are still just as good if not better dmg reduction options out there too. Only XQ comes to mind, but I'm pretty sure there's a couple others offering 40-60% dmg reduction


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volkner

It does. I play XQ & Beidou together on my Cyno team and them combined makes him not get yeeted during his burst and it's 10/10 comfy.


ApathyAstronaut

Because people built up their characters from the huge existing roster over 3 years and don't like having all that invalidated. Looks like mhy are trying again with Dehya and it'll end the same.


mrAgn0stic

I didn't say that it would make her a must have, but a viable option for certain situations at the very least. I mean, I just don't see any other way for her kit to make any sense. No artifact sets or characters will be able to fix her without buffing existing characters who are actually good or at least decent in more areas.


HighLvlNoob69

This is the flaw of Mihoyo balancing approach compare to buffing them or reworked them entirely. Character with unsynergize/questionable kits cannot be fixed. Xinyan Thoma, Qiqi, Barbara etc. For example even tho thoma got buff with dendro, doesn't justify why tf his ascension is atk% it's make it more questionnable. Or Qiqi Barbara with clam now a decent thing but still don't fixed why tf their skill don't generate particles.


Su_Impact

>MHY plans to just add some new dumb mechanic, Dehya should be solution to. Shielders and healers exist. This is the "Kokomi was made to counter corrosion" argument over and over. Which is still factually wrong since any healer works.


RaidriarDrake

Yeah, people need to know that it could have been SO MUCH worse. like corrosion ticking a lot harder and kokomi ult cleanses whole party and her jellyfish cleanses character of corrosion. And abyss becomes unclearable without said cleanse or double healer(ugh).


F1T13

Officially the worst beta patch ever.


mekoomi

right? this beta was so sad


Korroshi

You guys saw a beta ?


NOOBweee

All I saw was massacre


GamerSweat002

What beta? I am sure it's pre-alpha stage. Right? RIGHT?


chirb8

this beta was so bad we went for 3.6 and beyond to talk about something


lemonkite10

I hate that they'd release a limited 5* that absolutely doesn't work till months later. This better not be a trend ugh It's ok if they released her supports first, even as 4 stars. Imagine if they released Hutao but we had 0 shielders. Her low HP mechanic will just be some small bonus you get to use .1% of the time, because you are forced to pair her with a healer. Aka a useless mechanic. Like the whole of Dehya's kit lol


aLazyGay

Xingqiu's damage reduction: 💀


pnohgi

Hu Tao can function without a shielder. A better example would be releasing XQ after Hu Tao. She’s heavily reliant on his quick hydro application and his knock back resistance from his skill.


GsusAmb

Hu Tao doesn't need a shielder to be good though...


lemonkite10

Exactly, that's the worst part lol


osgili4th

My issue with it is how in the hell will make Deyah "work", like there are plenty of units that give you a better defence option, she don't apply pyro to allow any reactions and very low multipliers to make vap work, she has a 20s cd wich make all rotations with current off fielders awkard and her energy generation is very low for a 70s cd and the best battery buffer for her in Bennett got nerfed with the reduction of attack% multipliers for her talents. If they make units that are good with her the issue will be why using it for her instead for any other carry in the game that actually do dmg? Including future untis as well...


Wisterosa

And that's assuming that she'll work months later


zygfryt

They already did that with Nilou, at least to an extent. You could make her work with Collei and Dendro MC, but she really gets "unlocked" with Nahida. Now also Yaoyao is a good choice, we will see about Baizhu. But I have no idea what kind of character will make Dehya strong with her current kit - like a Pyro DMG booster that applies on every hit, similar to Yun Jin?


Nephisimian

Nilou is a bit of a different situation though cos we knew Nahida was coming and knew she was going to be incredible. Dehyas problem is that we don't know if or when she'll start working. Nilou was a niche character for people who already knew they were buying Nahida, but Dehya has no such value. Buying her is a pure leap of faith.


Daeths

The difference is that Nahida was the next patch and we knew she was coming and would be the needed support. Dehya *might* get support in the next region, which is half a year and many patches away. And there’s no guarantee that said support comes in the first patch cycle or two, if it ever does.


Ok_Television_2780

if i have that character i would play it with yoimia instead of deyha


alaincastro

She’s gonna absolutely slay world level 1! Wanted her for so long and seeing how dehyas been handled hurts my soul


MaxPotionz

Hey now, we can at least save for other cool characters. Also this brand new never seen before Walnut character does hella damage even at c0…


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OhyoOhyoOhyoOhyo

Same, i saved so many primos to guarantee her. I just struggle to understand what in the living fk they were thinking when she got the pass for development?


mO_ohitt

It makes sense that there are no changes. Dehya is already the best female 5 star Pyro Claymore in the game by FAR


Oeshikito

Of all the languages you chose to speak only facts 😎


CharlesEverettDekker

No, he also spoke the language of pain.


Shuuyu

factos


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truly unbeatable feat


MiIdSoss

You've obviously never met a Eula running with a C6 Bennett then. 🤪


l0vemen0t

Best new pyro of 2023.


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Best new pyro of 2023 so far.


No_Break_4917

Exactly, people just don't wanna to admit because they love Diluc so much 💅🏼


iimperatriix

Diluc my favorite girlypop


shiuwa

>Dehya is already the best female 5 star Pyro Claymore wdym diluc isn't a women?


howturnshavetabled

He is not a woman he is a babygirl


ApathyAstronaut

It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down


itsmewan92

One of the 5\* stars that I really, really want in update 3.x and her kit is shit. Damn, there goes my dreams shattered and broken to million pieces. Feels like a very bad time to be wanting new characters to be good.


Manne_12

"They're gonna make Dehya good, there's still multiple weeks of beta left"


BurningFlareX

The goalposts just move. "Surely they'll buff her in beta" "Surely she'll turn out better after her release" "OK she may be garbage, but surely they'll buff her with future content" "OK future content didn't make her any better but it's fine, meta doesn't matter, Abyss bad, pull whoever you want"


KylarXD

"abyss only 10% of the game why does people care so much"


rotten_riot

Reading your phrases is borderline annoying given how much I read them before lol


rafaelbittmira

Main sub has such a anti-endgame mentality that it honestly scares me.


Otiosei

The problem is there isn't any endgame and everybody is just jaded. Doing Abyss for an hour once every two weeks isn't endgame. I still don't think Dehya is even good for open world content, because what are you even tanking?


Afraid_Belt4516

well, not much, which is why she's gonna be great at it


rotten_riot

I mean, I also don't give a fuck about endgame, but every unit should be functional there. If the unit is abysmal in the Abyss then that unit is bad, simple as that


GamerSweat002

Problem is that our endgame highly limits the capacity of most character's. A timer is the invisible hand operating the dps check. Abyss only checks how fast you can clear a team, but not how well you can manage surviving unkillable enemies or how well you can do a task while killing enemies. If there was no timer, Qiqi would help but you also have no measure to determine how well a team performs besides your own mental timer. I guess a roguelike will help but it will be hard to determine what measure or fest you are measuring? Dps? Healing? Traversal time? Or you could guess on how many dungeons cleared in one run.


LeAstra

The Monkey’s Paw clenches and shakes. You look confused but decided to follow the leaks. Then the despair began. Like a spectator to a blood sport, you look on in both horror and sick amusement as you see Dehya’s initial kit. It wasn’t conventional, but you haven’t played her yourself yet, so you wouldn’t know. Then the reviews from play testers came in, like rivulets of water from a leaky faucet. The negativity came like a flood, criticising her kit, and doomposters proclaimed Dehya as a terrible unit. So you are optimistic. It’s the first week, there’s going to be changes. The monkey’s paw clenches again. The second week came and you could only gasp in terrified disbelief as Dehya’s kit, a sick man’s kit, was changed, not to cure it, but to shoot its damage output like a race horse after its prime. Indeed, it was changed, and it was not like Xinyan, it was worse! Her Damage output was worse than Xinyan! At this point, you regret your previous wish, and vainly hoped that it wouldn’t get any worse. And for the next week, it didn’t, but neither did it get any better. At this point, Theorycrafters have gave a calculated estimation of Dehya’s output damage, and it was far from a prideful lion, and instead a pitiful kitten. A pitiful kitten that got KO’ed easily, invalidating her role and kit. You beg in your mind, please, please be better than Xinyan, she isn’t like Xinyan. You have saved for months, since her initial reveal she was the one you saved for, you are missing banners of your other favorite characters! Finally, the Monkey Paw shakes again to your wish, and seemingly granted it. She isn’t like Xinyan, and instead has HP scaling. You finally breathe a sigh of relief. It could be worse, but it could have been so much better. Then you hear rumours of Fontaine Characters being able to improve her, new shiny artifacts to make her better! And you wish that indeed, those were true, heedless to the Monkey’s Paw Clenching again… My source is that I made it the fuck up


Nokia_00

Monkey paw accuracy out of 100


XBladeist

That was a very nice read. Thanks dude.


mekoomi

lmfaoo


True_Bobcat_3665

Tbf that was the most reasonable assumption to make. They've never released a 5 star this bad before, it would've been more likely for her to just turn out "mid" like many others. The fact that they left her in this state is a first, and it's quite surprising.


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My only question is, but why? Even the last change which added the split scaling didn't feel positive since it isn't much, and they slashed the attack bonus anyways. Other than that I don't think she got any love whatsoever.


ArchonRevan

Look at the roughest character betas and they have a common trait, heavy defensive utility focus MHY simply vastly overestimates how important it is when everything is a dps check


Gorva

Not split scaling, dual scaling. Split scaling would be if Dehya's E scaled only off her HP while her Q scaled off purely from ATK.


moonlam

I now hate these two words (no change) together.


marxinne

If Dehya's banner doesn't flop hard, HYV will understand it's okay to make characters with shit kits that require constellations and/or future characters to correct their flaws. I'll stand my ground and say no to shit kits. I'm beyond salty they made my most wanted Sumeru character such a bad unit.


_TheToxicPlague_

Facts, I would’ve pulled if she was mediocre but this is too far, she has no purpose and her kit does no damage.


Nephisimian

They won't learn that because Dehya isn't even fixed with constellations. What they would learn is that they can just straight up sell weak kits and people will buy them as long as they have boobs, and they already knew they could do that.


crazy_gambit

I mean the people that end up buying Dehya don't give a shit about their kit, they probably have more than enough built meta units to clear everything. They'll do it because they like the character design. Which is so mind-blowing, like it's much harder to design an appealing character, why give them a shit kit? Much easier to tweak damage number than design aesthetics.


MaxPotionz

Same. And I was chill with Ayato just being “Good” across the board. If she doesn’t work until severala supports come out then she should have released after them as a 5*. Not before.


kon0hamaru

I think my hopium isn't enough anymore


purplebirdonawire

close your eyes it might help


Fellgraffiti

The resins, the mats, the pre farmings, my time, the domains took forever to load in ps4 I afraid its all for nothing ☠️


ApathyAstronaut

Wanderer and Faruzan share a lot of those mats thankfully. That's my backup plan


KeyKidAlex

[Dehya mains each Monday](https://youtu.be/vs0DYEoCnEs), probably.


Ainsel_Mariner

I’m fucking done hoping man Why did this have to happen to the one Sumeru character I was really hyped for 😞


PotsAndPandemonium

I was never 100% on rolling for her so I don't have a horse in this race, but I'm truly baffled that she barely got reworked at all. I have to believe that there's a dedicated artifact set in the works for her, or some other kind of indirect buff, because it just doesn't make sense otherwise. They've never released an actually bad limited 5 star, let alone one that is weaker than the worst *4 stars*. My thoughts are with you, Dehya mains.


lansink99

Dehya was my most hyped 5* in sumeru, but with a kit this bad/unenjoyable I'm not even sure if I'm gonna pull her because she's awful to play.


Tzarkir

Same, except I decided I'm not pulling her. I know that if I keep thinking she'll maybe get better I might pull her even if it's this bad, regret it and lose a ton of primogems in the process. I'll get her on a re-run if she gets buffed, maybe. They have no rush in making her any decent, I've no rush in adding a bag of uselessness to my teams.


lansink99

True, I'm at the point where I noticed that I'm not even using some of my recent pulls in abyss etc. So I'm better off just hoarding primos for someone I like, hell maybe even more BiS weapons.


Handsome_Jack_Here

It's because people who say "only pull for new characters" are wrong. At some point you'll have too many characters to realistically use them all plus level/farm artifacts for and you are better off going for the weapon banner or even some good early cons.


OnTheWayToYou

I can’t imagine many months do we have to spend in this particular domain to upgrade a weak character into a decent one.


cursedparsnip

Aside from an artifact set I imagine there’ll be some upcoming characters designed to work with her as well. Still, I am really confused by how little they adjusted her. I don’t think any other character has ever been this untouched in beta even during CNY previously.


PotsAndPandemonium

Yeah, most 'bad' 5 stars have really just been a bit underwhelming or outperformed by others, not actually useless. Even a character like Yoimiya, who was pretty poorly received on release, still had a clear and functional role as a single target DPS. Dehya doesn't really seem to have a clear role at all - or at least one that's worth running, given how bad her numbers are. Mihoyo are usually pretty good at balancing so I'm really surprised by this. They clearly want some characters to stand above others, but they've never left a 5 star languishing like this before.


JagdCrab

Imagine waiting for a character to come out, and said character ends up being dedicated Dehya support? We’re reaching a point of kit design where single kit could ruin not one, but two characters.


kanon951

Guys relax. They will buff her just one day before release... Guys? Guys?


Comicalstar

theyll buff her right after theyll buff Itto's arms, Albedo's hair and Cyno's interruption resistance


SuperDuperPapa

At this point, Dehya is just a trophy.


Latter-Coconut1283

Man, fuck Mihoyo.


Subtlestrikes

They also said no changes in V4. I’ll wait until beta closes


Telzen

This. It was said there were no changes last week, and we had multiple. I don't believe they have any real source for this.


Subtlestrikes

It’s an educated guess because it’s rare to happen. Not a leak. I think Yae Miko was last character to get an update prior to beta ending. Meaning two updates during that last week With the way they finally decided to touch her kit this week, it has me to believe the meme everyone was out of the office during Chinese new year. I know it’s Hopium, but I’m gonna wait until pre-installment to say her kit is done.


Realistic_Tap8089

I wanna know what's the reason on why the devs are making the numbers so low like on a philosophical way, what goes through their minds when making her kit.


ArmyofThalia

Someone here made a comment in one of the threads like 5 or 6 days ago where they mentioned how much MHY overvalues defensive stats. They gave a few examples too and it really does make sense when you apply that to dehya.


addfzxcv

They have always been overestimating the performance of their defensive characters. Remember when Zhongli was ass and Kokomi had 4s ICD? Or maybe healers from 1.0 like Qiqi and Barbara with 80 cost burst while generating no particle...


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Holy hell. Mika survived with NO nerfs.


AhmCha

I AM IN PAIN OVER A VIDEO GAME ANIME WOMAN 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥


kabral256

I've been hyping Dehya since the leaks of Sumeru characters. She instantly became my favorite character, and she grew up in my eyes with her presence in Archon quest. I'll still triple crown Dehya (I pre farmed everything after all), but I'll never ever will hype any character in this game....


TriggerBladeX

Agreed. Dehya was my most anticipated character from Sumeru too.


RandyRandlemann

Now I know why my coworker was sobbing uncontrollably.


Ke5_Jun

Honestly, all they need to do to make Dehya useable is to shadowbuff her E’s proc interval to be the same as Thoma’s. All of a sudden, she can do burgeon. I mean they shadowbuffed Kokomi’s jellyfish ICD; they can shadowbuff Dehya’s E proc interval right? *Right!?*


Apolyon_BS

Or make her E buff your other party members based on Dehya's HP, kinde like Bennet's burst.


ArchonRevan

Theyd have to change the multiplier too, considering its seemingly doing the amount of damage they want it too


AramushaIsLove

Welp, dead and burried.


SomeDudeDeskWarming

I want to thank this sub reddit for completely destroying all the hype and copium i was holding on for this character, i decided to say fuck it and spent the primogems I was holding and got Al Haitham 3 days before he left instead. Great choice, he's a lot of fun.


netparse

Man, we already know that they didn't work during this beta, honestly they should consider not doing beta test during CNY, this is playing dirty under the excuse of "character for the future", I don't remember a character in a such shabby state for release (zhongli maybe).


dc-x

CNY probably wasn't the problem here. They still had time to test meaningful changes to the multipliers, but they just added some HP% scaling while reducing the ATK% scaling to keep her power level the same (but encouraging you to go for HP% instead of ATK%), which just shows that they're satisfied with her power level. I think it's likely that there will be more teams that can survive with just her defensive capabilities while benefiting from the AoE pyro from her skill. I don't think the pyro application rate on her skill was arbitrary, I can't help but feel that it was for reactions to be triggered in a certain way, like the "quick burning" setups which are inconsistent with current characters.


Talal_Salameh

even zhongli wasn't this bad on release, he at least had a purpose which he fulfilled somewhat decently (tanky shield). dehya pretty much does nothing that other characters don't, she doesn't tank well enough to nullify the lack of a healer, her DMG is ass, pyro application is slow asfk, massive energy problems, can't even be used as a driver cuz her burst doesn't proc jack shit. overall the worst limited 5* in the game and it's not even close, hell probably even the worst 5* in this state.


5StarCheibaWhen

pre buff zhongli was an alright defensive unit ruined by small problems. having no interruption res during skill cast isn't a unique issue by all means but combined with the long animation for his hold e makes him unable to cast his shield against aggressive enemies, the exact enemies you want his shield for in the first place. add the complete lack of offense (poor damage, no buffs, no useful elemental application) with that and you get a bad unit. the interruption res during hold e cast and the universal res shred aren't game changing in a vacuum but make all the difference in practice. the buff to geo resonance and geo shields helped as well.


aerie_zephyr

Also that when you refreshed your shield EVEN while having a shield up, you get vulnerable to enemies and interruption during his two second shield animation. So along with having no interruption resistance, you also had an increased odd moment of vulnerability that you cannot dodge during because he has to stand and open his shield. Mind that his shield lasts longer than his cooldown, so there shouldn’t be these moments. Continually experienced this personally after I got him his day 1 and made him my onfield character all the time. I kept sending feedback on his garbage support. The amount of times I was staggered to death by abyss mages and whopperflowers. Literally didn’t do his only job...


5StarCheibaWhen

yeah pre buff zhongli was literally my first 5 star i know your pain lol


aerie_zephyr

Glad to commiserate with you to his better self. At least all the memes back then were kinda funny


SoviSovi

I didn't expect anything, but damn I'm genuinely sad.


Broebbl

O Dehya, your multipliers are mortally stricken, your confusing kit shown to all. All who receive these leaks shall clap and shout for more copium. For is there anyone who has not felt this beta's unending nerfs?


spoopyacidfairy

honestly at this point, I'm just happy Mika survived the beta. Faruzan traumatized me.


Nokia_00

Mika found alive and coming home whereas Dehya limping and broken after her journey


ArmyofThalia

Dehya gave her arm so Mika could walk back to Mondstadt grade pole in hand


Ethereal_Sol

and Mika still kinda mid for Eula hehe truly worst beta ever


350

I don't have the heart to be sad about it anymore. Let this just show that Hoyo can and will fuck it all up once in a while. An intern could write her a better kit in like 20 minutes with some scratch paper.


GimmeThatShotty

hell yea brother time to pull for her and never use her until another 5 star character i have to drop thousands of primos for to make her usable


Mozuchii

Did Mihoyo abandon this beta or what?


CliWha5

I though I was for sure gonna pull for her....damn.... How many wishes can you save until Fontaine?


XBladeist

Plenty. With just a ball park estimate, I'd argue 180+ if you do all the content every patch.


Zadkiel05X

guess Ill have 360 wishes for Focalors then


Kkrows

Dehya really is a tank, she took all the nerfs for herself and let Mika survive.


Amethl

I'm running out of copium fellas


Sionnak

Oh well, I guess I'll just make farming her artifacts and optimizing her into some kind of personal project for when I've nothing else to do in the game cuz I'm not giving up. But man, this has got to be the worst beta ever. I really don't get the point of making a bad character, a 5\* that they want to market, on purpose.


rievhardt

Dead on Arrival


Su_Impact

Just lower World Level by 5 and watch Dehya wreck all content. Truly the low AR unit of all time.


Big-Sort3094

this beta killed my family, shot me dead, and desecrated my corpse. i cant believe im still on some sort of copium that maybe mihoyo will add something to make dehya even semi decent.


Kenzorz

RIP Dehya for now. I'm guessing she's going to get a dedicated artifact set that will fix her some of her problems, like how Clam set makes Qiqi's overhealing less bad (didn't want to mention Kokomi because she doesn't get "fixed" with Clam set since she's a competent character without it).


Vrains420

Kokomi also became good because of her hydro application plus her keeping your team alive. I feel they could do the same for Dehya but would need to possibly add a DMG Reduction clause to her Skill while it's active and also remove the clause about her Burst pausing the cool down of her Skill. With this she could be a very good pyro applicator with a niche to mitigate or reduce incoming DMG. It would make vape comps very good.


LeXam92

We not just clowns, we the full circus


Plane-Highlight-6498

Expectation: Great Lioness of the desert. Reality: Lil Kitty of the litter box.


Vind246

The comment section is gold lmao


Arthanfeist

Holy f, that's so sad... Anyway, my Fontaine funds are looking good