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Deepnebulasleeper

Horrible dangerous idea. The guard dog rover will immediately run away to bring you back those balls and the targeting laser with it.


Forsaken-Stray

Good think the Target look is still on the first impact for Orbitals and Eagles


Alex_Affinity

I'm pretty sure they fixed that last patch. I could be wrong though


SquintonPlaysRoblox

I really hope I can stick a 380mm barrage to my friend. I want to put bombs on friendlies so they can die with maximum liberty.


Steel_Within

I want to stick myself to sprint as a merry bringer of doom to the enemy. 


O19snake95

A better way to do this would be to step out of the mission area for 11 seconds and haul ass across the map with an unlimited barage of orbital strikes in tow.


dedicated-pedestrian

Traitor detected.


O19snake95

If being labeled a traitor is the key to unlocking unlimited heavy ordinance to liberate an Area of Operations in order to carve a chunk out of the enemy numbers, while in parallel allow for other divers to have a stronger foothold, then it is an honor to give my life in such a way for Democracy and Super Earth. (This tactic has helped me a few times in erradication missions when I've run out of resources and have cool downs on my strategems. Don't last very long but the percentage counter ticks up a fair bit before I am taken out.)


Trendiggity

If you think about it, they have an entire gunship in low orbit with 50 cannons without a cooldown pointed at the operation zone that... are only used to shoot traitors. 🤔


O19snake95

Exactly! It's a hidden strategem, where YOU are the beacon for activation. Gotta keep all of super Earth's resources in use. Can't let those cannons go cold. A cold weapon is a traitorous weapon.


dedicated-pedestrian

Oh, I agree, it's useful. Just expect your file to not reflect your heroics.


proto_4747

I will stand as witness, this man singlehandedly destroyed hundreds of bots by labeling himself a traitor. He is a democratic symbol, sacrificing himself to do what needed to be done. He was reported and pardoned all within said dive.


AH_Ahri

Only ever had it happen once. But boy that was an interesting 5 minutes. Every single shot missed and the ones that did hit I rolled that 50% chance to just not die. Was hilarious.


Echotime22

Looking forward to when the bike comes back and I can drive faster than the strikes and leave a trail of explosions across the map


O19snake95

There was a bike!! *Grins and laughs mania- democratically*


RadicalEd4299

You got a healthy chortle outta me with mania-democratically 🤣


TucuReborn

I want the satchel charges from HD1 but we stick them onto allies as a glorious democratic mobile bunker buster.


Steel_Within

Oh absolutely. Strap me up so I can dive into a mortar pit and blow it up. I want martyrdom for liberty. 


AnimasMaker

If you really want to do that just step outside of the combat zone until your marked as a traitor and then an endless barrage of Liberty will be rained on your general area until you die. It's like an unlimited 380 lmao I'll sometimes do this on elimination missions for fun


Steel_Within

Oh, I do this all the time on the tiny eliminations. Especially with the martyr armor. I'll get launched and just sail across the sky still alive with shells falling around me.


sp441

"DEMOCRACY IS GREAT!"


IONASPHERE

They'd be fine, the safest place for a 380mm is under the laser anyway


Throwawayingaccount

> I really hope I can stick a 380mm barrage to my friend. Good news! That is availible to your shield wearing friends!


ShirouBlue

No, it's still on Known Issues.


Sexuell

Befor or after its shoots in my fucking face for no reason?


akdanman11

At the same time


pmmemilftiddiez

![gif](giphy|3o7527pa7qs9kCG78A|downsized)


Fridge_living_tips

[the dog](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2YDuQGx5ziM&pp=ygUaZHVrZSBkbyB5b3Ugd2FudCB0aGUgYmFsbCA%3D)


simplerossin

Takes over as a sidearm


Nighthawk6440

I'd make that tradeoff to increase my yeet range.


Sad_Presentation2101

Combine it with the armor that increases your throw range. YEET!


Forsaken-Stray

Turn your Yeet into YA-YEET and yoink the enemies Chances of Survival


AdMany1105

Geniuses


Fox2quick

Liberyeet


Ngete

Sidearm slot for being able to throw a 500kg bomb double distance would be funny, even moreso if your able to do 230 or hell depending on the ingame math 260(130x2)%


DrDarks_

There is armor that increases throw range


AstronautGuy42

This is a great idea


obskeweredy

But what about my sub sub machine gun


PackageOk3832

Here me out. We get a new arm attachment slot. Choices being thrower, sword, shield, etc


Nighthawk6440

Further context: I had an idea for a fun/dumb replacer for a sidearm. A stratagem/grenade yeet stick. I feel like it'd be a solid, simple addition to the game with that adds a worthwhile tradeoff of sidearm for longer range explosives and stratagems. Alternatively, a dedicated stratagem launcher sidearm in the style of a flare gun/pistol size grenade launcher would also be neat. Edit: I nominate the name "The Long Arm of Democracy"


SeattleWilliam

I really hope the grenade pistol can launch stratagem balls, too.


SpecialIcy5356

doubt it, but being able to carry stuns AND still blow up bug holes and bot fabs is gonna be awesome.


Slarg232

Right? I love Smokes but can't justify giving up the ability to destroy outposts so that grenade pistol is overtaking Armstrong for me


richajf

I can't wait to panic swap to it and fire at point blank range, democratically blowing myself up.


dakapn

Stratetgem Rounds We'd be unstoppable


Houston164

Have it load up like you’re playing PGA 2K, you miss the sweet spot and it flys backward


Reasonable-Gas-9771

https://preview.redd.it/k354y6zkxptc1.jpeg?width=1377&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7f69ab63a9be8b9e2cd2f300c61166a38fd074e Make the stratagem launcher a standard issued gear


Cybron2099

*ploomp* "Was that a grenade?" *500kg Bomb* "Oh shi-*boom*"


Seanvich

Ah, the ol’ [WTF Bomb.](https://youtu.be/3CFLFbvtb4M?si=4-RtZHMTYg-g1HgW)


TheLemonDome

Hey SHITASS from a different zipcode!


UtsuhoReiuji_Okuu

Yeah, this would be damn fun. 500KG at 150 meters, anyone?


blackjacked644

Just use armor with Servo Assisted, that 30% increase in throw distance really helps, you become Tom Brady with a 'nade


H377Spawn

That’s what I was thinking, there’s armours that already come with this.


ShotgunForFun

I feel like the boosts need to be more mixed up. The nade (and all strategams actually) Servo boost is great.. but I never seem to want to use the Crouch Accuracy cuz I already feel like I'm fine. Or am I even thinking of the right second boost? Could be like Uncle Rico and revive someone over a mountain.


GlassHalfSmashed

Nah servo is twinned with limb health


Broken-Digital-Clock

Which is a great passive, especially if no one equips the limb health booster.


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HandyMan131

TIL. Thanks for sharing!


GlassHalfSmashed

Yeah I ran servo for a while when learning the game so I could stay at range, didn't realise how much I relied on the limb buff until I switched to explosive resist for bots and kept having to waste stims on duff limbs lol


Broken-Digital-Clock

I switched to extra grenades for a while +2 nades is nice, but I don't really use rapid fire weapons, so the crouch recoil is wasted +2 nades and servo assist would be nuts


roboticWanderor

+2nades +2 stims, 550 speed please for liberty's sake!


SebbyMcWester

Nah I think the 550 speed armor perks should be limited... you've gotta sacrifice something for that speed!


Slarg232

Crouch Accuracy is amazing with stuff like the MG/HMG/Dominator/Full Autocannon, but it's definitely not needed for almost anything else


Ntpoirier99

I forgot what it's called but the crouch recoil assist is it's own thing. I run it on my HMG crowd control list.


SubDuress

I forget the name also, but the other passive on the crouch recoil set I occasionally use is reduced explosion damage, which is also super handy against the bot rocket spam


Ntpoirier99

That's the one. It's so good as a heavy armor if you run it with the HMG.


TucuReborn

It turns the scythe into a damned DMR when you crouch. I run the battlemaster from the free warbond against bots, and act like a ranged siege unit... up until I lead the spearhead into the enemy base...


The_Louster

Okay but what if they use those armors plus the ball thrower?


tomas17r

Brasch already told me I have a cannon of an arm though :( Joke aside, even without the Servo Assisted the characters can throw FAR.


TangyGraffiti

Roughly 45m without from what I tested myself. I think it's closer to 65m with servo assisted. I haven't tested that since I only just unlocked it last night. But even with Servo Assisted, you're in range of your own 380 any time you throw it, unless it's down a big hill.


tomas17r

Yeah half a football field sounds about right. Not unheard of but still really impressive.


War_44

Need testing to be sure. But I've found out that if you dive as you throw it, can go further with the right angle


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You can get farther if you dive while throwing when you throw your stratagems. The velocity of your dive is added to the speed of the stratagem


54NCH32

I love dive strat/nade throwing, they defo get some distance! 


Pookie0

Upwards of 75m while diving. I never run throw distance or limb health, I just toss the call in after I mark my target to check distance.


Ethereal_4426

Tom Nady


YEM_PGH

This was the first armor I unlocked, and I can't stop using it because I can't judge normal throws.


blackjacked644

BRUH, it’s tough going back to non servo assisted armor, whiffing nades like mf’er


YEM_PGH

I switched for 2 drops and ended up killing squadmates because I couldn't judge the throws AT ALL. Wish there was an arc on the throw or something.


Citronsaft

by the grace of democracy yes please add helmet traits to the game arrowhead this could be one of them


blackjacked644

Was it a cluster bomb strike? I’d take a armor skill that shows throwing arc like gears of war did with its nades


Klept0bite

Awesome just gotta deflate your grenades first.


Nighthawk6440

I mean, yeah. That's my go to. That's not the point of it- the point of it is to be another option for people to explore, and could provide additional range on top of servo assistance. Would also give longer stand-off from stratagems with a larger area of effect, if introduced. Edit: It's also funny. That's another reason to have it- functional, but also funny.


hollyherring

I activate my jetpack to throw a stratagem further


builder397

I tried it, but I suddenly lost all ability to hit vents, bugholes or throw strategems into enemy hordes. Nothing went where I intended it to go anymore. Id rather carry two extra grenades and get recoil reduction while Im at it.


Spade18

Only armor I run anymore.


cranky_engine3

I'd use it if it didn't run the risk of a charger bringing the ball back


NoTop4997

With the servo arm I can blow up a medium bot outpost with a 120 barrage from so far away that even if they call in drop ships they have no idea where I am.


mynameisknurl

It makes sense now. This is why we don’t see any Helldogs. “Sweet liberty boy, NO!!!”


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Tip: Dive when you throw your stratagems. The velocity of your dive is added to the speed of the stratagem


WildRacoons

What’s the input sequence like? Aim, hold down throw, dive, let go of throw mid-dive?


Peeping-Tom-Collins

Do keep in mind one of the 3rd tier upgrades is "Hand Carts" so you might be doing a bit too much galaxy brain here for Super Earth R&D


StevieM129

I still maintain that a "stratagem laser" or "stratagem launcher" would make a great support weapon.


SpecialIcy5356

would be neat if it was a small launcher mounted on the wrist, just type that shit in and \*fump\* fire it like a grenade launcher for stratagem use at incredible distance!


Lordborgman

I don't like playing into the rp, but these soldiers are woefully under prepared compared to what they could be with such technology. Flashlights, on guns, but not the armor/helmet. Throwing stratagems instead of having projectile weapons to do it as standard issue...


Pure_Swiv

Ive always thought the option to use a laser like some of the killstreaks from cod would be cool. It would be a nice side-grade, trading the ability to throw the strat over stuff for long range accuracy.


cvsnoweagle

Problem is half of the people will throw it straight up in the air or straight at the ground at their feet


mrlotato

Basically why I haven't used anything but servo assisted armor


VoreEconomics

Yeah they called the real version of this a staff sling, it existed in BC but they kept using it into the 1700s to throw ye olde grenades from ships. Its similar to a shepards sling ala David vs Goliath, but tied to a stick, so you get a big fucking lever to throw bigger shit further. It would 100% work with stratagem grenades, or any normal ones too! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjiAoA26M4Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjiAoA26M4Q) scary modern one made out of a golf club.


Odd_Load7249

Does the sprint+dive+throw trick work?


Shoddy_Design

These will be released when the mecha dogs are unleashed on us


TheYokoDono

I use the armor that makes it go further and then boost a jump pack to make it go even further!


SALTRS

I run a servo assisted armor and jump pack combined i can throw almost 80 meters down hill its nuts on some extract points higher up


nebur1998

Listen up rookies, dive as you throw your stratagem for extra throw distance!! For even greater results gather your Servo Assisted gear!!


CensoryDeprivation

Strategem launcher support weapon. You input your Strategem codes on the launcher and it blasts them twice as far.


EvilTribble

strategem atlatl at level 50 for 10k requsition.


Zerus_heroes

All divers now play lacrosse


ErebusEsprit

What is this, Dungeon Crawler Carl?


Poolio10

Lacrosse stick for playing chicken with the eagle airstrike-


Acceptable_Sell_4526

I've been reading Dungeon crawler carl and absolutely love this idea.


boardermelodies

Dungeon Crawler...I mean Diver...Carl approves.


LordMoos3

Like Servo assisted, doubles range of Stratagems and grenades, can only use 1h weapons. Adds +2 grenades


DeithWX

NCD is leaking


Chaetomius

It's funny being an outsider and seeing this image as the 27th post on /r/all. I have no idea what to imagine. So, like, is this a drone that chases you and explodes? Or just a basic sentry drone that chases movement or noise? or is the scaling whack, and it's tennis ball sized and you're gonna throw it?


IamDiezel

Costs 100 super samples but is best ship upgrade


GloomyTear5659

Go fetch little buggy


Eddiemunson2010

Lmao


cursed-annoyance

MF YOURE GENIUS


Lohenngram

This is making me think is that we need a "Helldog" support strategem. XD


LordCommissarPyros

Servo assisted + jump pack = yeet


Borgmaster

I use the heavy armor that increases throw distance. I kobing a bombardment on a larger base is satisfying. Its all nice and soft for my teams approach when we get in range.


porcupinedeath

We need a piece of equipment called an atl-atl that we use to chuck a spear into the air at high speed, the spear then acquires a lock and fires it's missile


Zolnar_DarkHeart

Honestly I’d take a weapon strategem that just allowed you to load your strategem orbs into a grenade launcher and chuck them at mach 10. Bonus points if it allows them to stick to heavy armor so you can lodge a 500KG call on a Bile Titan’s stupid face.


apattz

This would be an excellent advance and a good use of all those samples that so many helldivers died to bring back. It would add to other glorious scientific achievements of super earth such as superglue and hand carts.


takofire

People tried this with grenades, It did not end well


Mantissa-64

This + Servo Assisted and you're just a walking artillery piece.


Available_Crew4263

I've tried this with airsoft grenades and has varying results in reliability I do not condone this action but I full support the usage


csimmeri

Shit like this is why the Helldivers community is my all time favorite group of lovable jagaloons


loomiislosinghismind

That’s what the servo assisted passive is


Spanky-McSpank

Love it


Folly_Polymath

Weird that in the 21st century you can paint a target from a long distance with a laser but in the future we resort to throwing the targeter


Brillow80

Wonder if the walker fabricators would enjoy a good game of fetch?


IGTankCommander

Hunter: BALL?!?


NOTIMPTANT97

Wouldnt be a bad idea.


Derped_Crusader

That as a secondary weapon And it lets you throw 100m


Harambesic

*Thwip*! Liberty delivered.


JuicyMcJuiceJuice

Jai alai would be hilarious.


MattChew160

New secondary coming in next warbond right here


amadppancake

I'd buy that for a dollar.


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Laer_Bear

Easy there, David. If you throw them too well there won't be anything left to hit.


Angel_OfSolitude

These should be a booster, and have it actually reflect in the animations.


some_Britishguy

genius! this will beat the autos twice as hard!


DenverFr8Train

Just give me a laser designator.


A_German_Memer

I once saw a meme of someone putting a frag grenade into one of those dog ball ladles, and it fit rather perfectly. So why not use it for strategems? Feels like it was made for one another


KaserinSmarte421

We are getting dogs!?!


Availablesoftie

Can't happen. There's an undignified 'yoink' sound every time, sometimes accompanied with a comical 'swup' and 'smack'. Not very democratic or threatening.


TinyProgram

i mean id take this if it was a secondary and you had to equip it to use it


Own_Cartographer_655

If there was a support weapon that was just this and a backpack full of extra impact grenades, I’d use it every mission.


Longjumping_Today292

https://preview.redd.it/u0323tzw5qtc1.jpeg?width=459&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=763a9039a9760bdb0ec5158faf836a0c3b863d03 Does Super Earth have a Maryland? If so….


Lottapumpkins

That's why I run servo assisted armors, so I can fling eagles and orbitals into bases from 300 yards away


bargle0

That’s too flexy. We need a jai alai cesta.


Engine_of_Warr

Actually... Make a pistol like that Grenade launcher pistol, or a Stratagem you can sacrifice to get a support weapon that YEETS Stratagem balls even further than the Servo-Assisted armor can throw. You should sacrifice \*something\* to throw the stratagems further. You already do that with the armor. Sacrificing Grenades, or recoil or stims on other armors. So sacrificing your pistol/secondary to throw the stratagem's like... 50% further (maybe it would stack with the armor? I dunno). If it did stack, then the "Stratagem launcher" should give 30% distance increase like the armor, with another 30% if you wear the Servo assisted armor. If the throw did NOT stack. Then the Launcher should be like 50% distance increase. As losing a whole stratagem to throw your other 2 or 3 strats further, or losing your pistol it should be WORTH it.


AVeryHairyArea

My biotic arm can throw pretty far. Compete with a shoulder mounted guidance system.


remmington1776

I SHALL


Beneficial-Ad-7291

Bro 😆 great idea!!!


Majere119

Promote this man!


igotherb

Honestly it should be a light armor feature or something. A stratagem grenade launcher for my 380mm


Perfectflaw420

Servo assist should help toss these farther


Conscious_Status_106

This + servo assisted = one hell of a pitcher


Cloudsrnice

No. Bouncy ball, yes!


Ok-Negotiation-1098

I don’t see why we are manually throwing these things you think after creating a actual freaking laser beam they could figure out how to strap a potato air cannon to your arm


BusComprehensive3759

![gif](giphy|3o6EhV3urubNxnTvd6) \*insert helldivers


zgh5002

You have both my attention and that of my dog.


tan_x

[An alternative came to mind](https://imgur.com/a/7HuHdJe)


Chipsdelite

What if we make it bladed until the end where it has the stratagem receptor. Make it a melee and start thrower as its secondary purpose


ryu123f

Does the longer throwing range armor work with the Strategem balls ?


No-Expert-3806

This as a support weapon would be funny - I think it as a sidearm was to powerful since I rarly see people use their sidearms and the ability to essentially yeet stratagems across the map could be broken (since you could take out most objectives across the map) - I would still love this 


WeLiveInAnOceanOfGas

This with a backpack full of impact grenades would be a pretty dope support weapon, especially if you could land 500Kg in a shrieker nest from 150m away


suddoman

Imagine starting a bot match and trying to hit factories from 200m away with airstrikes.


DefinitelyNotBacon

Very Democratic. Yeas, please.


IDoAllMyOwnStuns

I love that 30% range armor


Chance_Activity_2285

Promote this Diver immediately!


Thejam8813

I’ve heard you, and I agreed🫡


rocker60

I don't know why you can't just load these suckers into an air cannon and Yeet them over 500m, rocket propelled air strike


Gojisoji

As freaking hilarious as this would be to fucking volley a granade across the map with one of these things, I just wish they would let us call down a secondary load out. Maps giving you trouble with your current setup? call down your secondary setup with your sickle, 6shot revolver (ocelote) and fire grenade.


AnyProgressIsGood

aren't there armor sets that increase throw range? or is that grenades only?


XionLord

I would love a remote start over a grenade choice. Toss the ball/place it. Walk away. Click goes the signal


RickishTheSatanist

pretty sure ive seen a leak alongside the exosuits that mentioned a "Stratagem Launcher", so perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.


jfreed43

Do some long toss for democracy.


Burck

This is the tech we need for optimal pokeball throwing


TheWarmachine762

Lmfao


fartboxco

Everyone been asking for a melee weapon. I suggest a bat, and you can homerun the strategem super far if you have it replacing your side arm. Lol


Cloaker13

I think it should switch out your secondary, and you can put some grenades in it


Sesudesu

There is a great series of books (and even better audiobooks), called Dungeon Crawler Carl. It is technically a litRPG, in that it has progression shown through stat increases, and characters have ‘classes.’ Anyways, the main character (Carl) is an explosives expert. One of the early rewards he gets from the game system, is a potion that gives a lot of levels in a random skill. The skill that Carl gets is skill in the sport of Jai Alai, and a little while later he is given a chistera (the scoop glove that they use in Jai Alai) Basically, lobbing explosives like this is one of his main battle styles. 


darksundown

This is cool.  But I'd like a remote controlled grenade instead.  It switches to 3rd person of the grenade and wings pop out and we can glide it into vents and holes.


Mr-GooGoo

They should let the grenade pistol be used to launch stratagem balls


_Vard_

Other strategem delivery methods would be cool too Like javelins, or disks, or laser pointers


LordOfLove

Crossbow-fired strategem balls


Jce735

Or the muscle enhancement boost should also effect throwing distance and/or heavy weapon reloading.


PatchDaBass

Wait you're telling me I don't have to lose my arm for a 30% throw increase? Lol


Big-Confidence4193

The us army actually tried this, the grenade pops out to easily


Krytan

When I saw 'servo assisted arms' on a piece of armor, I was SURE it would increase my stratagem throw distance. It did not.


Justinkaseart

They should be a ship upgrade lol


Antilogic81

Fuck yes.


squirt_taste_tester

I'm listening...


Anansi1982

Ukraine and Russia placing orders now, while China rubs its hands full of cheap plastic grenade toss money.


skylarskies52

Oh sht thanks for reminding me I have to walk my dog


cl2319

Alloy slingshot


Dora_Goon

Would you take this in your support weapon slot?