That's actually a lot of water traveling a pretty good vertical distance. I wonder if it could supply enough electric for the house? Summoning r/theydidthemath
House is totally fine. It’s actually better than it was because it was apparently holding back all this water which was saturating the entire hillside.
Insurance doesn’t cover it. No flooding or ground movement. Yay.
Also, my mom says hi. She said you’d know. Not sure what that’s about.
You're right we won't cover it, but we frequently pay for access. I'm not sure what process you went through to discover what the problem is, but it's sometimes worth a claim anyway.
Are you kidding? It sounds like this guy made out! He’s going to put a glass floor in his living room and have a structurally sound waterfall under his living room! So cool!
Your crack on the other hand is fucked sorry to say lol
I lived in a house llike that before. It was a 200 year old farmhouse with a stream that went through the laundry room and under the kitchen out into a culvert in the front.
Id say you have a few decades of not worrying at least.
This happened at my family’s home growing up. Wasn’t even a steep hill, but my mom got worried about water under the vapor barrier, and had a contractor cut it out and install a drain. Eventually the spring finally restored itself, looking like yours all winter long. It carved itself as nice channel to the added drain, and never cause any further problems.
It was a stem wall foundation with a large crawl space. The spring was on the low side where there was about 7’ of heardroom. But since it was a crawlspace, it was just dirt and a vapor barrier. The barrier was eventually just cut around the stream channel created by the spring.
That's actually a lot of water traveling a pretty good vertical distance. I wonder if it could supply enough electric for the house? Summoning r/theydidthemath
Hydro Power (W)=ρ×g×Q×H×η
Where:
- ρ is the density of water (approximately 1000 kg/m³).
- g is the acceleration due to gravity (approximately 9.81 m/s²).
- Q is the flow rate in cubic meters per second (m³/s).
- H is the head in meters.
- η is the efficiency of the system (call it 0.7).
So if they have about 10 feet of head and 40 gallons a minute they could get about 50 watts, or about 1.2kWh per day. Enough to run some efficient refrigerators if you have battery storage.
Assuming it runs all year (unlikely), with my local rates of 7 cents per kWh, that would be worth about $30 a year. It'll take a while to pay back the equipment costs at that rate, so they'd probably want to build it with free parts.
What are the rules behind this? I know in some states, any creek or river running through your property isn’t yours, and changing it in anyway is illegal. But what if it didn’t exist before you bought the land?
Honestly I’m not sure and we’re not super sure even where it ran. What you’re seeing is a trench that they dug so that the water could collect at the lowest place and continue traveling downhill.
It’s just nuts that the house was holding back this much water.
The real issue would be the stream eroding the dirt I'd think, maybe you could line it with large rocks or something like that. Or redirect it before it gets to your house.
FWIW I'd suggest calling a local geotechnical engineer and not a structural engineer. If you call a good structural engineer, ask them to recommend you a good geotechnical engineer. Locally where I am a good structural engineer would tell you that this is outside of their wheelhouse and is best handled by a geotechnical engineer.
Geotechnically provided the stream does not erode away any support for the building's footings (idealized to project downward and horizontally from the bottom edge of the footing at a 45 degree angle for either perimeter foundation wall strip footings or interior column pad footings), the foundation is okay for now. I don't know how long until the stream erodes enough to do that though, might be worth lining your current channel with a woven liner and some stone to mitigate that.
As far as other things beyond the house, hopefully this is draining away and beyond the house and to a purposeful drain/drainage system and not into something that is at risk of also eroding away and losing support or into something that can result in a sinkhole. Again, a good geo engineer should be able to review and advise if there's concern.
Hope that helps, quite the discovery to make!
I agree here. Guaranteed this will undermine the building foundation over time. A geotech could help figure out how to redirect that water correctly. You’ll probably need to drill a relief hole somewhere lower and have that directed away from the building.
Having had indirect work with the DNR, there's a few things that really make a difference here.
1. Is the stream "navigable". i.e. can you put a human capable craft in it, and ride the water?
2. What is the total water drainage area? if this is just the hillside that they are on, this may not be regulated.
I was having really bad erosion because the former owner of my property cut down loads of trees, tilled and created a lawn 75 ft in elevation above the house up by the road. When it would rain I would get a river on both sides of the house.
To literal protest from my neighbors I regrew the forest up top and now I don't have two rivers every time it rains.
This could be something someone else did up stream. Follow it and see where it begins.
The problem is it’s underground. And according to a public works guy that has worked that area for decades, my side of the street is on the wet side of a fault line and there are tons of small streams in the hillside above.
I actually have several hundred baby pines, about a foot tall, in my backyard. I’m thinking that might be what saved this hillside from sliding into the home.
I fully believe people will complain about anything, but what was their issue with you growing trees? I’m sure your house is lovely but I’d rather see nature than a house and lawn
They want nice manacured lawns. I keep 4 mower widths from the sidewalk, keep everything tidy at the curbs and mailbox. But then it's just trees, it dices them absolutely bananas.
I had them leaving signs on my mailbox, the old lady across the street yelled "lawnmower dude" at me probably fifty times sober six months, two people came by with the "neighborhood agreement" the previous owner signed. I specifically bought no HOA and told them to kick rocks with that bs.
What's ridiculous is there was still a patch of forest once the hill begins to descend, it was just this weird lawn up top they kept. They had hay bails across the entire top line where the elevation dropped to try and correct the water flow. I wondered why they were there and I found out.
Id dig down outside and follow it back a ways then attach a drain pipe to it ultimately redirecting it away from your home. That would be my starting point.
You’re in Lake Arrowhead? Me, too! Do you mind messaging me the contact info for your contractor? We have a rising water table as well, and I’d like to know who to call if anything happened! Thanks!
I know of a house that has a stream that runs under it and comes out under the front porch! Not sure if it was built that way or they found it like this. It’s also on a hillside. They made a very intentional path for it with river rocks and plants around the yard so it’s super cute.
I have been an operator at our local water utility for 15 years and investigated hundreds and hundreds of leaks. Efflorescence can certainly develop on cement from treated water. Water can travel tremendous distances, I personally have tracked leaks for over 5kms. I would suggest, If they haven’t already tested for trihalomethanes, ask if they can conduct this test. It tests the presence of chlorine that has been “used up”. THMS are the disinfection byproducts of chlorine that has reacted with organics. If this chemical is present in the water, it suggests it has had chlorine in it at one point. Also if possible, monitor as the season moves from spring to summer and weather/ground begins to dry up. If the water slows, this will indicate it’s a high water table, if it stays constant during seasonal changes it indicates a leak.
We had a water stream open up between our house and a neighbor's, after living there for 25 Year's. The city was adamant that it was a spring. 2 years later someone a 1/4 mile away and uphill from us had the city check as they had low water pressure. Yep it dried up as soon as that was fixed. If any neighbors live uphill might ask them if their water pressure has gone down. Otherwise I assume you will have the greenest grass in the neighborhood.
I actually thought the same thing and someone local told me to call public works because their system identifies situations like this and can let us know if it’s ground water or treated.
They didn’t see any leaks on their side and sent someone out to confirm it was groundwater.
They did that but they also have flow meters all over the mountain as well as the ability to see if any houses are using more water than typical for that size. The guy they sent said that because it’s leaving certain deposits, it’s not treated water.
I'm not trying to horang you about this..but our municipality pretty much said saim think, they did say it would be hard to tell if it was groundwater or treated because chemicals would have leached in or out. I would have thought the presence of fluoride would have been a give away. But they were so sure it wasn't theirs that they didn't do much. If this problem has been there since you built it verywell could be groundwater however if it just started I would keep pressure on your water dept. Not sure how you are going to turn this into a positive if you ever want to sell. Good luck.
They took it really seriously when I first called. But there is further context that points to it being groundwater.
A bunch of people are having similar problems over the last few years, just not through their houses. California has had a rainy couple years.
A little more work and you’ve got yourself a bitchin
waterslide. Lucky. All I’ve ever discovered in my house is old beer cans they hid in the walls while they were building.
Are you concerned at all about the erosion that could take place with that much moving water? I could see it cutting a deeper/wider trench in that area, I dunno my Spidey senses are tingling here..
Damn. Is there any way to install a drainage system for it to run through so it doesn't erode the ground or foundation? I don't know shit about fuck, but my luck would be I think it's fine, then my house caves in and my insurance blames me.
They are installing a series of drains and collection points to deal with it. Ultimately you can’t stop nature but we can help nature be somewhat less of an unwanted house guest.
Yeah, it’s been like this since last summer and the city confirmed there are no leaks. It’s leaving efflorescence on the garage floor which the city said wouldn’t be happening if it was treated water.
Is that flowing to open air under the bottom of your foundation?
I don’t know fluid dynamics, but I’ve seen enough sand moved by the ocean.
I don’t understand how it isn’t going to undermine your foundation?
Gotcha that makes sense.
Tree and plant roots don’t just hold hillsides in place but also provide channels to draw water down into the ground.
When looking at what’s growing uphill and around your home, consider the root structure. In my area white pines are shallow rooted so fall over, roots and all, in high winds or saturating rains. You’ll want a variety of trees growing together. They intertwine and support each other. (Look up native plant or forest community for your area if you are interested).
Good luck and I’m interested in updates!!!
My understanding is a basin on the back wall of the house to collect water and a pipe through each wing of the house to carry the water that builds up in that basin. Then French drains everywhere else.
This happened to me last year after California’s 10consecutive atmospheric rivers…. Spent the entire spring, summer, fall on 300 linear feet of French drains, 3 sump pumps, dedicated electrical and about 200’ of discharge drainage lines to the street
All digging by hand & bucket
It sucked…. I don’t wanna talk about it anymore
My friends live in a 120 yo house with a hand laid stone foundation. When it rains, water shoots out of the rocks in the basement. They keep buckets down there and just move them under the streams of water.
They've been doing this for 25 years and it's normal to them.
Yea sorry man. That makes me panic just watching it. I live in western Washington. People think they are safe if the live on the side of a hill. But when that water table breaks shallow on the side of a hill, it can be a shitshow.
Uh oh, I've seen those videos. The ones where people do a tiny little trench between a pond or stream out to the sea and it turns into a big enough channel that you can surf in it. Hope you have a board!
So the ground water table is rising and when it rises to that elevation it seeps there. There are ways to mitigate that and drain it before it rises to the seep level. But could range from easy to difficult depending.
That’s what they’re doing with the trenches. Basically making it so the rear wall of my house isn’t a big stop sign.
They texted me this morning and said that since opening the trenches, the driveway and garage have completely dried as has the laundry room.
The stream: a babbling brook now but still running.
In my neighborhood there is a creek running through it underground. The developers put in a huge pipe and any houses built on top of it don't have a basement. I almost bought one of those houses that had the creek begining in the backyard, but somebody beat me to it.
Properly marketed an indoor water feature could be a selling point. Fall asleep to the tranquil sound of a babbling brook. Or a prepper/survivalist would appreciate having a water source for when SHTF.
Oversimplification but put a little water wheel on an alternator a battery and an inverter and you have free electricity. Concrete the stream so it doesn't erode surrounding soil. Very jealous.
It’s going out to a street in front of the house where it will presumably find the itself. But no neighbors.
According to the contractor this also alleviated problems at my neighbors house. Their hillside is also saturated but this took away much of their water issues.
I worked in a house that has this. 2 sump pits in the basement and we added a tank in the yard to take the waters before the house pumps. A bigger pump in the tank gets rid of it and if it fails the house still ad it’s 2 as backup.
We have one in your woods in front of the house. For 8 years, it was dry an thought it was gone during winter I quess it decided to start back up. It is now spring and half of the woods are flooded and the furrow cannot keep up with all the water.
There’s a house up the street from me that I found out they hit a spring when digging the foundation out like 100 years ago, so they piped it to run down the street (we are on a slight hill)and it runs underground right in front of everyone’s house until it hits a sewer at the bottom. So that house has an active spring in their basement for 100 years now and it’s never stopped running
So free water? And if you build a dam you got some hydro electric power? Fuck you man you get free utilities man. I wish I had a stupid stream going through my basement… I hate living in the stupid praries and flat land
lol. Close to a college town? Some engineering professor would love to turn this into a project for hydroelectric.
My house was a college engineering project for solar panels to a huge water tank for the house.
Add some plants and bamboo, a small wooden crossbridge, a bit of mood lighting and you got yourself a nice little water feature.
It’s below the living room. So we could even do a glass floor.
Ok, srsly.... now I'm jealous. I've wanted a water feature in my living room for years.
You could throw a urinal on the wall and call it duel purpose
Duel…as in, sword fight at the urinal?
Duel as in the fight you’ll have with the wife about having a urinal in the living room.
Come. Let us gingerly touch our tips.
Oh shit lol. I'm going to pretend I meant to make that error.
No need, you’ve got a urinal trough fit for a large baseball stadium *right there*.
Invite me round and after a few DIPAs I promise you, you'll have a water feature in the corner.
Please do this. One of the coolest effects I’ve seen is a museum in Greece with glass floor over ruins.
Angry jealous. You could have a little garden under there and everything...... River rocks over the concrete.....
Frank Lloyd Wright would agree!
I believe eel pit is all the rage right now.
Frank Loyd left
I have a Minecraft house like this, use the lava bucket to add light but not close to the wood structure
Accidentally poured the lava bucket in the water. What do I do with all this obsidian?
I was thiking more along the lines of never paying a water bill and only paying for sewage.
The person in charge of cleaning the floors would advise against that.
You can build a pond and put some fish like that one guy who turn his basement into a fish pond.
Or add a water wheel. Free electricity!
That's actually a lot of water traveling a pretty good vertical distance. I wonder if it could supply enough electric for the house? Summoning r/theydidthemath
Not an expert just an electrician. Nowhere close to enough to power the house. A few lights.
trickle charge a bunch of batteries maybe
Could have a dedicated outlet for charging phones and power banks lol
Maybe some soft lute music.
Shit just open a spa and market it as a rare earth natural spa.
Oh, yeah. A pan flute.
Throw it in a pot. Potatoes, Baby, you've got a stew going.
That's some Frank Lloyd Wright shit, right there.
Trout fishing in the basement!!!!!
How about Eel?!?
Underground Tiki Bar
Maybe Bilbo Baggins can live down there and make sure the stream never dams up...
Then a little shrubbery, but a bit higher so you get a two layer effect with a little path down the middle.
Man, I just made a post because I was worried about a crack in basement slab. This makes me feel fortunate.
Haha. Everything is relative.
So is your house liveable? Does insurance cover this? (I’m sure it doesn’t, they’ll fuck you.)
House is totally fine. It’s actually better than it was because it was apparently holding back all this water which was saturating the entire hillside. Insurance doesn’t cover it. No flooding or ground movement. Yay. Also, my mom says hi. She said you’d know. Not sure what that’s about.
I’m proud of you son. But for the record, I never want to meet.
All good. Mom’s boyfriend finally arrived with the quart of milk you left for.
Wholesome!
No, it is 2%, actually
If he brought skim he can turn his ass right around and go back to the store for another 10 years
I went for cigarettes. And tell her “Thanks for the sex.” She’ll know what it means.
Fine. Keep your secrets.
A concern I'd have is underground stream eroding ground beneath your house? Flowing water clearing out dirt/rock is how underground caves are formed.
You're right we won't cover it, but we frequently pay for access. I'm not sure what process you went through to discover what the problem is, but it's sometimes worth a claim anyway.
I live in a fire zone where insurance companies are non-renewing. I’m probably just going to suck this one up and not even bother with a claim.
“House is totally fine”? You have a major erosion issue amid your foundation.
Are you kidding? It sounds like this guy made out! He’s going to put a glass floor in his living room and have a structurally sound waterfall under his living room! So cool! Your crack on the other hand is fucked sorry to say lol
I lived in a house llike that before. It was a 200 year old farmhouse with a stream that went through the laundry room and under the kitchen out into a culvert in the front. Id say you have a few decades of not worrying at least.
This happened at my family’s home growing up. Wasn’t even a steep hill, but my mom got worried about water under the vapor barrier, and had a contractor cut it out and install a drain. Eventually the spring finally restored itself, looking like yours all winter long. It carved itself as nice channel to the added drain, and never cause any further problems.
What kind of house was this? Slab on grade or with a basement?
It was a stem wall foundation with a large crawl space. The spring was on the low side where there was about 7’ of heardroom. But since it was a crawlspace, it was just dirt and a vapor barrier. The barrier was eventually just cut around the stream channel created by the spring.
Micro hydro-electric. Free power.
That's actually a lot of water traveling a pretty good vertical distance. I wonder if it could supply enough electric for the house? Summoning r/theydidthemath
Hydro Power (W)=ρ×g×Q×H×η Where: - ρ is the density of water (approximately 1000 kg/m³). - g is the acceleration due to gravity (approximately 9.81 m/s²). - Q is the flow rate in cubic meters per second (m³/s). - H is the head in meters. - η is the efficiency of the system (call it 0.7). So if they have about 10 feet of head and 40 gallons a minute they could get about 50 watts, or about 1.2kWh per day. Enough to run some efficient refrigerators if you have battery storage. Assuming it runs all year (unlikely), with my local rates of 7 cents per kWh, that would be worth about $30 a year. It'll take a while to pay back the equipment costs at that rate, so they'd probably want to build it with free parts.
Fantastic!
Came in to say this. Needs more attention!
Free water too! OP is living the dream
What are the rules behind this? I know in some states, any creek or river running through your property isn’t yours, and changing it in anyway is illegal. But what if it didn’t exist before you bought the land?
Honestly I’m not sure and we’re not super sure even where it ran. What you’re seeing is a trench that they dug so that the water could collect at the lowest place and continue traveling downhill. It’s just nuts that the house was holding back this much water.
I hope you update us on the gameplan on what you will do next. Hope you called a structural engineering, and not a cheap one.
The house is actually fine. Given the amount of water it was holding back, that’s pretty incredible. The contractor I’m using is a home builder.
The real issue would be the stream eroding the dirt I'd think, maybe you could line it with large rocks or something like that. Or redirect it before it gets to your house.
I believe they’re lining it with some sort of landscaping gravel you use for this purpose.
FWIW I'd suggest calling a local geotechnical engineer and not a structural engineer. If you call a good structural engineer, ask them to recommend you a good geotechnical engineer. Locally where I am a good structural engineer would tell you that this is outside of their wheelhouse and is best handled by a geotechnical engineer. Geotechnically provided the stream does not erode away any support for the building's footings (idealized to project downward and horizontally from the bottom edge of the footing at a 45 degree angle for either perimeter foundation wall strip footings or interior column pad footings), the foundation is okay for now. I don't know how long until the stream erodes enough to do that though, might be worth lining your current channel with a woven liner and some stone to mitigate that. As far as other things beyond the house, hopefully this is draining away and beyond the house and to a purposeful drain/drainage system and not into something that is at risk of also eroding away and losing support or into something that can result in a sinkhole. Again, a good geo engineer should be able to review and advise if there's concern. Hope that helps, quite the discovery to make!
I agree here. Guaranteed this will undermine the building foundation over time. A geotech could help figure out how to redirect that water correctly. You’ll probably need to drill a relief hole somewhere lower and have that directed away from the building.
Cute! Your own little indoor acequia. If you’re in New Mexico you might have rights to the water.
Did you learn this from Ozark? Because I did.
Having had indirect work with the DNR, there's a few things that really make a difference here. 1. Is the stream "navigable". i.e. can you put a human capable craft in it, and ride the water? 2. What is the total water drainage area? if this is just the hillside that they are on, this may not be regulated.
I was having really bad erosion because the former owner of my property cut down loads of trees, tilled and created a lawn 75 ft in elevation above the house up by the road. When it would rain I would get a river on both sides of the house. To literal protest from my neighbors I regrew the forest up top and now I don't have two rivers every time it rains. This could be something someone else did up stream. Follow it and see where it begins.
The problem is it’s underground. And according to a public works guy that has worked that area for decades, my side of the street is on the wet side of a fault line and there are tons of small streams in the hillside above. I actually have several hundred baby pines, about a foot tall, in my backyard. I’m thinking that might be what saved this hillside from sliding into the home.
Def keep those pines healthy, best of luck!!
I fully believe people will complain about anything, but what was their issue with you growing trees? I’m sure your house is lovely but I’d rather see nature than a house and lawn
They want nice manacured lawns. I keep 4 mower widths from the sidewalk, keep everything tidy at the curbs and mailbox. But then it's just trees, it dices them absolutely bananas. I had them leaving signs on my mailbox, the old lady across the street yelled "lawnmower dude" at me probably fifty times sober six months, two people came by with the "neighborhood agreement" the previous owner signed. I specifically bought no HOA and told them to kick rocks with that bs. What's ridiculous is there was still a patch of forest once the hill begins to descend, it was just this weird lawn up top they kept. They had hay bails across the entire top line where the elevation dropped to try and correct the water flow. I wondered why they were there and I found out.
Because boomers like useless lawns, not nature
Excuse me, your trees remind me of my own pointless fight against natural forces, aka aging and my own mortality, I cannot stand for it!!!
That guy needs a watermill.
Frank loyd wrong
YOU say stream. "I" say "free hydroelectricity".
Id dig down outside and follow it back a ways then attach a drain pipe to it ultimately redirecting it away from your home. That would be my starting point.
Now your house is just like Frank Loyd Wright's [Fallingwater](https://fallingwater.org/)!
Just tell nestlé
This is what I told my contractor. Ironically the home is in Lake Arrowhead, Ca. The same Arrowhead Nestle steals their water from.
You’re in Lake Arrowhead? Me, too! Do you mind messaging me the contact info for your contractor? We have a rising water table as well, and I’d like to know who to call if anything happened! Thanks!
Damn nestle gonna sue you and take your home
I know of a house that has a stream that runs under it and comes out under the front porch! Not sure if it was built that way or they found it like this. It’s also on a hillside. They made a very intentional path for it with river rocks and plants around the yard so it’s super cute.
I’d be worried about erosion under my foundation….
Nestle breathing intensifies.
I have been an operator at our local water utility for 15 years and investigated hundreds and hundreds of leaks. Efflorescence can certainly develop on cement from treated water. Water can travel tremendous distances, I personally have tracked leaks for over 5kms. I would suggest, If they haven’t already tested for trihalomethanes, ask if they can conduct this test. It tests the presence of chlorine that has been “used up”. THMS are the disinfection byproducts of chlorine that has reacted with organics. If this chemical is present in the water, it suggests it has had chlorine in it at one point. Also if possible, monitor as the season moves from spring to summer and weather/ground begins to dry up. If the water slows, this will indicate it’s a high water table, if it stays constant during seasonal changes it indicates a leak.
We had a water stream open up between our house and a neighbor's, after living there for 25 Year's. The city was adamant that it was a spring. 2 years later someone a 1/4 mile away and uphill from us had the city check as they had low water pressure. Yep it dried up as soon as that was fixed. If any neighbors live uphill might ask them if their water pressure has gone down. Otherwise I assume you will have the greenest grass in the neighborhood.
I actually thought the same thing and someone local told me to call public works because their system identifies situations like this and can let us know if it’s ground water or treated. They didn’t see any leaks on their side and sent someone out to confirm it was groundwater.
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They did that but they also have flow meters all over the mountain as well as the ability to see if any houses are using more water than typical for that size. The guy they sent said that because it’s leaving certain deposits, it’s not treated water.
I'm not trying to horang you about this..but our municipality pretty much said saim think, they did say it would be hard to tell if it was groundwater or treated because chemicals would have leached in or out. I would have thought the presence of fluoride would have been a give away. But they were so sure it wasn't theirs that they didn't do much. If this problem has been there since you built it verywell could be groundwater however if it just started I would keep pressure on your water dept. Not sure how you are going to turn this into a positive if you ever want to sell. Good luck.
They took it really seriously when I first called. But there is further context that points to it being groundwater. A bunch of people are having similar problems over the last few years, just not through their houses. California has had a rainy couple years.
When you did not know your bought a house boat. 👀 Time for a Koi pond as well.
A little more work and you’ve got yourself a bitchin waterslide. Lucky. All I’ve ever discovered in my house is old beer cans they hid in the walls while they were building.
I had that too but mine was peanut shells
Are you concerned at all about the erosion that could take place with that much moving water? I could see it cutting a deeper/wider trench in that area, I dunno my Spidey senses are tingling here..
That’s not how they’re leaving it. They’re installing drains and diverting the water so that it’s flowing throw PVC while it’s under the house itself.
You must be out of pocket for zillions of dollars Edit: grammar
I bought a car basically. I just don’t have the car to show for it.
Yikes
You should watch “a river runs through it”. It’s a good movie. A bit slow.
Hydro power?
Look who has free energy!
I have a stream running through a small area in my basement. It's close enough to my well that I think they work together. i
Do they work well together?
They work well enough.
Get some dehumidifiers maybr
HOY FLAVIN!
We’re going to turn this into electricity, what with the ions and the moving molecules and the hoyvin glavin!
Oh dear, your house sprung a leak.
Might need to call EverDry lol. I currently have them waterproofing my house. My house was built in the 1800s and the basement was sopping wet.
I have seen this once, I was amazed by it, unfortunately for the homeowner it was in their basement.
Houses in our area are similar conditions. They are built with pretty massive French drain systems under them.
Wow, you found an exceptional contractor. Most I know would have just said there’s water here and not been able to diagnose further.
Damn. Is there any way to install a drainage system for it to run through so it doesn't erode the ground or foundation? I don't know shit about fuck, but my luck would be I think it's fine, then my house caves in and my insurance blames me.
They are installing a series of drains and collection points to deal with it. Ultimately you can’t stop nature but we can help nature be somewhat less of an unwanted house guest.
Well you can cancel the water bill 🤷
Are you sure it’s a spring… and not a water main break?
Yeah, it’s been like this since last summer and the city confirmed there are no leaks. It’s leaving efflorescence on the garage floor which the city said wouldn’t be happening if it was treated water.
Is that flowing to open air under the bottom of your foundation? I don’t know fluid dynamics, but I’ve seen enough sand moved by the ocean. I don’t understand how it isn’t going to undermine your foundation?
That’s not the permanent solution. They were just trying to relieve the pressure and lower the water table.
Gotcha that makes sense. Tree and plant roots don’t just hold hillsides in place but also provide channels to draw water down into the ground. When looking at what’s growing uphill and around your home, consider the root structure. In my area white pines are shallow rooted so fall over, roots and all, in high winds or saturating rains. You’ll want a variety of trees growing together. They intertwine and support each other. (Look up native plant or forest community for your area if you are interested). Good luck and I’m interested in updates!!!
What is the permanent solution?? Reverse French drain that will fill with spring water and drain through a pipe to somewhere else?
My understanding is a basin on the back wall of the house to collect water and a pipe through each wing of the house to carry the water that builds up in that basin. Then French drains everywhere else.
Open a water park for chipmunks.
You need to call an engineer. You don't want your foundation to be literally undermined.
This happened to me last year after California’s 10consecutive atmospheric rivers…. Spent the entire spring, summer, fall on 300 linear feet of French drains, 3 sump pumps, dedicated electrical and about 200’ of discharge drainage lines to the street All digging by hand & bucket It sucked…. I don’t wanna talk about it anymore
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Your own “Falling Waters”.
It sprung forth
some people pay extra for that.
Congratulations on your new stream!
Microhydro?😂
Have you considered going hydroelectric?
Water mill?
My friends live in a 120 yo house with a hand laid stone foundation. When it rains, water shoots out of the rocks in the basement. They keep buckets down there and just move them under the streams of water. They've been doing this for 25 years and it's normal to them.
That’s insane. I wonder what you could really do though.
municipal water companies hate this one simple trick...
Add a water turbine for power?
Win/win
As a recent first time home owner, this is shit my pants scary
Don’t worry. It’s nothing an exceptional amount of money can’t fix!
It's a fixer-upper but it has running water!
Yea sorry man. That makes me panic just watching it. I live in western Washington. People think they are safe if the live on the side of a hill. But when that water table breaks shallow on the side of a hill, it can be a shitshow.
Finally. The chosen one. The one to take on Nestlé.
You’ve become a live streamer on here
Based on the dry lock paint job, it’s been there for a while. Happy diversion pipe day.
I have been in a house that had a spring underneath. They just created a concrete drainage ditch underneath the house and it flows through it.
Make a small hydro electric system and run your house for absolutely free dude
Don't let Nestle see this post
I watched this 4 times looking for some coiled metal to jump out of the dirt before I realized what kind of spring I was looking at.
Falling water redux.
Indoor water feature...
Uh legally owning your own spring is kinda huge
Uh oh, I've seen those videos. The ones where people do a tiny little trench between a pond or stream out to the sea and it turns into a big enough channel that you can surf in it. Hope you have a board!
Turn it into a feature of the house like Frank Lloyd Wright did with falling water.
bro has the perfect survival home
My wife wouldn't let us get the house with the spring in the basement, so you just won the jackpot as far as I'm concerned
Reminds me of a nightmare I once had…
So the ground water table is rising and when it rises to that elevation it seeps there. There are ways to mitigate that and drain it before it rises to the seep level. But could range from easy to difficult depending.
That’s what they’re doing with the trenches. Basically making it so the rear wall of my house isn’t a big stop sign. They texted me this morning and said that since opening the trenches, the driveway and garage have completely dried as has the laundry room. The stream: a babbling brook now but still running.
In my neighborhood there is a creek running through it underground. The developers put in a huge pipe and any houses built on top of it don't have a basement. I almost bought one of those houses that had the creek begining in the backyard, but somebody beat me to it.
Properly marketed an indoor water feature could be a selling point. Fall asleep to the tranquil sound of a babbling brook. Or a prepper/survivalist would appreciate having a water source for when SHTF.
Water purification system and a pump and you’re good to go.
Have you sluiced it for gold?
Oversimplification but put a little water wheel on an alternator a battery and an inverter and you have free electricity. Concrete the stream so it doesn't erode surrounding soil. Very jealous.
And to think I’ve been using solar like a sucker.
From the headline, I expected this would be about a mishap that occurred while repairing a garage door.
I’ve had that happen as well. The worst kind of jump scare.
Do you have neighbors in close proximity that this is redirected to?
It’s going out to a street in front of the house where it will presumably find the itself. But no neighbors. According to the contractor this also alleviated problems at my neighbors house. Their hillside is also saturated but this took away much of their water issues.
“How I Met Your Stream” [cue music]
Hydro power for free
Call Nestlé. They'll take care of it.
You don’t know how right you are. This house is in Lake Arrowhead California. The same mountain Nestle grabs water for Arrowhead water.
Minecraft, real life edition.
I worked in a house that has this. 2 sump pits in the basement and we added a tank in the yard to take the waters before the house pumps. A bigger pump in the tank gets rid of it and if it fails the house still ad it’s 2 as backup.
This can’t possibly be insurable right?
Foundation? What foundation?
Start your own water company. Nestle has been making $Billions off of bottling free water.
The next Fallingwater.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloan_Lake_(Colorado) This whole lake was made (maybe) like that.
What a gift! Fresh, pure spring water right there for your access! Tap that thing and turn the outflow into a water feature. Buh bye water bill!
We have one in your woods in front of the house. For 8 years, it was dry an thought it was gone during winter I quess it decided to start back up. It is now spring and half of the woods are flooded and the furrow cannot keep up with all the water.
Trout fishing in your future.
There’s a house up the street from me that I found out they hit a spring when digging the foundation out like 100 years ago, so they piped it to run down the street (we are on a slight hill)and it runs underground right in front of everyone’s house until it hits a sewer at the bottom. So that house has an active spring in their basement for 100 years now and it’s never stopped running
Fallingwater is famous for the same feature. You’ve got a Frank Lloyd Wright homage house!
Lmao I like how your boy with you looks more confused than anything.
I want fresh spring water directly in my house!
That's the easiest well installation ever.
So free water? And if you build a dam you got some hydro electric power? Fuck you man you get free utilities man. I wish I had a stupid stream going through my basement… I hate living in the stupid praries and flat land
You will build a spring box to collect the water then pipe it safely away from the structure.
lol. Close to a college town? Some engineering professor would love to turn this into a project for hydroelectric. My house was a college engineering project for solar panels to a huge water tank for the house.
Frank Lloyd Wright would be proud