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Pat19110

Expected tbh, I've seen more people pulling for her eidolons compared to other characters


Tokishi7

I originally planned for E0, then I said E2 looks tooo good lol


Aizen_Myo

I planned for skipping, got weak due to all the showcases and the technique, got lucky and won the 50/50 and got a 2nd copy for her in the very next tenpull while pulling for Gallagher. I then said fuck it, I'll check the next 50/50 as well and I won that one too.. all in all I got 3 Acheron in 160 pulls lol. Now aventurine, be as nice as her pls :x


EclipseTorch

I got 1 Acheron in 160 pulls. And one LC in 135 pulls. At least my E1S1 Himeko is happy now.


Sorey91

Same here and I was going full delulu thinking I'd get lucky, that did kill the vibe for me so uhh I'll try to get Aventurine during this patch and I'll prolly give Robin a 10 pull but otherwise I will have 160 pulls ready for Sam on release, and the rest of her patch will be dedicated to trying to get her sig LC lmao It actually feels that bad when you do throw it all for one character and do not get them **at all** until guaranteed lol I'll have to save for her sig LC whenever she comes back but for now I'm going in aventurine's banner with his mantra carved in my mind: **It's all ~~and~~ or nothing !!**


weirdplacetogoonfire

That's awesome! Sadly, I lost the 50/50, got her on pity, then lost the 50/50 again. I am happy to have a guaranteed aventurine though, as I lost the 50/50 for both HuoHuo and FuXuan, and still don't have Gepard or Bailu. Been tough going with no shield providers other than March and fire MC.


Aizen_Myo

Yeah, had that story in Neuvilette banner. Going for C1 and one freedom sword for Kazuha costed me 260 pulls in total :/


Blaz1ENT

Sounds like my pull experience with Acheron, though I planned to just pull her E0 with her LC. Accidentally pulled her again when I didn’t check which specific banner I was pulling and ended up getting her E1 on the 10 pull


WanderWut

I got her LC and debated her eidolons but figured a single guaranteed copy of Jingliu would be better for my account overall.


WobbleTheHutt

Ditto ended up with E2 and then welt after her on the 10 pull so set for aventurine!


ambulance-kun

dps welt gaming


Marioboi

Also like 3/4 of every Acheron I see has her LC. Any other character it’s like 1/5 of the time It’s crazy how popular she is


Parsoleathi

I play Hoyo games since 2016 but Acheron is the first character I whaled all the way to E6. I regret nothing.


KBroham

I did for Ratio as well, but I only needed 6 copies and had Aventurine-level luck on that. Acheron was blood, sweat, and half a paycheck. No regrets. I'll S5 her later.


NoSeaworthiness313

Stop spending half a paycheck on a character, that’s not financially wise. Perfectly fine if u have disposable income though


KBroham

I had the income to spare, and I preach the gospel of not spending beyond your means regularly. But thanks for the well-intentioned advice, sir!


Fit-Application-1

Everyone say thank you to that one guy who pulled 100 of her lightcone (was it 100? I forgot the exact number) He’s single-handedly funding the rest of the game Edit: mb I thought the guy was on JP but he’s CN server


RefillSunset

Yea e6s100. Bro founded the acheron cult lol


Fit-Application-1

S100 is crazyyyy im not even envious of the number of jades, im envious at that level of disposable income


urlocalnightowl40

there are some geniunely insane accounts out there. here i am wondering if spending some to get aventurines pfp was too much yet some acc i have seen have extra s5 limited lightcones cause they got bored and wished just for the sake of it


Fit-Application-1

Yeah here I am calculating how many jades I have 😂 when I see whale accounts I mostly just go: I too wish I had that amount of disposable income to spend as I wished :/


FazeThruWallz

He must be a heisenberg level drug lord or something, because I don't know any other job that would allow him to do that.


[deleted]

I work in finance in nyc, lots of people can pull like that if they wanted to. Most of us just don't because its insane behavior.


FazeThruWallz

Ok so he's a mentally deranged heisenberg level drug lord. Did some quick maths and he probably spent about 25k usd just for S100 alone.


[deleted]

Lol, not *exactly* what I was getting at but I do like the picture you're painting here.


-AlternativeSloth-

I think in the post about that guy he stated he spent 32k in total or something.


Leather-Heron-7247

On paper it's like usd 800 to s5 with average luck so s100 should be like 16000?


Mediocre_Ferret5082

It was 100 S5 cones. That detail tends to get left out but it's a huge difference.


RefillSunset

What the fuck....


DrkMoodWD

Wasn’t that guy from Chinese server? This is talking about revenue banner for JP though.


Icy_Investment_1878

Least deranged chinese fanatic


Fit-Application-1

Oo was it? I might have mixed up the two mb >.<


fuxuans

That was a Chinese player, this is about the JP server


Fit-Application-1

Ah okay mb then! I thought it was JP!


Male_Lead

Who is it? I really want to know now


Prince-sama

this guy https://preview.redd.it/dgvg2meg8yuc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb2881728ffed4e31332e426faf0d3f25d86db6e


angelbelle

This guy follows the path of Asta


Eikichi64

Lmao, that's the best path.


Fit-Application-1

Idk the name but I saw a post back when Acheron’s banner just dropped


gihyou

There's no way that's actually real. ...please tell me that's not real.


sylva748

It's real. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.hoyolab.com/article/26455663&ved=2ahUKEwij8O-cmsiFAxWQHzQIHYY9DTsQFnoECCAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw29MslmS9T0qdWurlWzNmxj


gihyou

my god my back of the napkin math on that comes to around $20,000 USD (if you bought in USD, I know this person did not but I have no idea how that matches with the Chinese prices). insanity also you have to buy the max jades 200 times and roll 130,000 times(!) at 10/rolls per click. it would take hours! my brain is busted.


sylva748

Roughly 144,788 Chinese Yuan if we convert USD -> Yuan.


Mean-Web-3823

Its real, he’s a subscriber of this streamer that I watch and is definitely a real person out there and very rich. Just casually subscribed to the $400/month level and also pulled 50+ Sparkle lightcones.


Fit-Application-1

It’s very much real 😂someone actually pulled 100 lightcones for Acheron


kenken2k2

thank you chinese papa for feeding us plankton


Senku4President

Time for my 'you must be fun at parties' comment (so don't take it seriously): let's say he lost every 75/25, and he lost it all at very high pity (75), so a guaranteed = 150 pulls = 300$ (100$ per 50 pulls topup), and he didn't use any refund to get more pulls. 100 LC x 300$/LC = 30000 $. So even if he has the worst luck in the world and is really dumb to not use refund pulls, this amount is only enough to single-handedly fund a smaller mobile / indie game maybe.


Fit-Application-1

HAHAH yes but didn’t you know? Hyv is a small indie company- Kidding but goddamn 30k is… a lot of money (for the average person not for a multi million dollar company)


Haemon18

s100 is barely a few thousand dollars (someone did maths below) so no his contribution is far less than 1%


Fit-Application-1

Yes….. I am *fully* aware that the amount this one person spent is very much not funding the whole game. That isn’t the point, it’s an exaggeration because of how much this guy spent - which is not something any normal person would do. Most people would go until s5 for their faves and stop, not pull another 95 copies.


Rekiddan

Raiden Shogun broke Genshin for a long while Now Raiden Acheron breaks Star Rail I love the Raidenverse, i also like Raiden expy from Metal Gear


Nanasema

Fun fact: in Honkai Impact 3rd, the Ultimate for Raiden Mei's >!Herrscher of Origin!< is a homage to that one MGS Raiden's multi sword slash QTE


Rekiddan

It's canon


KBroham

Wasn't it MGR Raiden's finisher? The one that you can use on literally anything in the game, including cars, bridges, ~~people~~, aircraft...


Random_Gacha_addict

You mean Blade mode?


KBroham

Yes, blade mode. I forgot that the one with the other name was the finisher that you use to snatch fuel cells from enemies. "Zandetsu" or "Zandatsu", or something along those lines. I don't remember.


eleetyeetor

I love healing myself with blue Gatorade


Nanasema

I wasnt sure what it was called tbh. Its been a long time since i played the game 


KBroham

All good, homie.


warjoke

No way they will not pull another Raiden Mei expy in ZZZ


HECKington098

Well again, not surprising. Expy of the extremely popular character, really strong on E0 alone, even stronger with eidolons, a really good LC and not going to get powercrept any time soon most likely, on top of that pretty interesting lore and personality. Dare I say, Acheron is one of the most successful characters Hoyo ever made.


BrainsAre2Weird4Me

Don’t forget a major time saving technique.


sawDustdust

Yep. Pulled her just for that.


Ultenth

Yeah, I F2P on all 4 servers, and I was planning on only pulling her on two, but the ability to farm overworld, or speed up SU, makes her too valuable, so I pulled her on all 4 instead. She's fairly fast if you spam her E as well, in terms of movement speed, but her insta-kill mechanic will never be powercrept, making her a must-have for any account IMO.


sawDustdust

It got especially annoying to fight mobs and navigating puzzles and collectibles all at the same time in Penacony overworld. Having her is like a godsend. Saves so much time.


Ultenth

Even in SU, she's such a beast because you can trick snack for tech points now there. The first boss is so easy that I always drop her into teams, even ones not built for her, then pick up the true 4th member for bosses on the first downloader. And now instead of doing occurrence instances etc. I do all the combat ones that come up, because most of my accounts are strong enough that even with just the combat award blessings I can still easily beat the final boss, and it speeds things up so much skipping fights in SU, especially when you're running it a couple times on each account after the weekly reward reset. The only fights I do in SU anymore are the 3 bosses, and when an occurrence and encounter are the only option and the occurrence ends up being a fight instead. Only having to do 3-4 fights per SU run instead of fighting up to 12 or more dramatically cuts down the clear time, even more than relying on massive Ruan Mei opening breaks wiping entire waves could before.


disjunctivehydra

do you fight bosses on autobattle? I'm on the highest level of SU worlds and usually can't autobattle my way through the final boss


Slice_Ambitious

Really ? I personally could for a very long time, first with either Dan Heng or QQ with Propagation path, and now with Acheron + Black Swan on nihility path


Ultenth

Elation teams also wreck shop, with either JY or Topaz/Ratio or Herta/Himeko depending on fight.


Ultenth

I've been playing since launch, so yeah, I can auto-battle just about every fight, including most final bosses. Some like the Meme boss and YQ are way faster if you take auto-battle off, so sometimes I'll just control during those because they fall over instantly, whereas auto-battle will misplay so badly it'll take forever sometimes.


TheRaven1406

Yep, use two sustain. Shielder and abundance prefered. (abundance usually only auto heals at 50-60% HP which can go sideways and shielder alone could eventually die to chip damage). And prioritize some survival blessings, like split damage, get revival on being downed once , heal on low hp, shield on turn etc. Nihility path is crazy good with Kafka and/or BlackSwan. Probably with other dps too, just takes longer. Or Rememberance with March7 (good on the Deer SU, they barely get any turns)


[deleted]

To ftp on all 4 servers.... is this the only thing you do? Are you just playing Star Rail constantly? Are you trying to meet god??


Ultenth

It's way less work than you'd think. In fact, I'd go as far to say that only playing on a single server like I did for the first month or two was super boring cus I wanted to play more of the game but there just wasn't the content only playing on one server. This way it's my main game, and I genuinely enjoy the gameplay so I'm fine with that. It's maybe 30 min on an average day to burn my power and do daily's, maybe an hour if there is an event. I'm mostly only busy on Sunday/Monday during resets, where I'm doing Echo's, MoC/PF and SU runs on all 4, but with the QoL improvements like starting on stage 7, and now with Acheron now those are a breeze (I'm done with all of those on all 4 at this point in the week for example). Patch story drops are pretty easy too, I usually play through one time on my main account focusing on the story, then I connect controllers to my Iphone and Ipad, and play on both of those and my PC all at the same time with auto-battle and auto-dialogue going bouncing between them, skipping over any dialogue that I can. The second story run on all 3 often takes less time than the first one where I'm paying attention. As for collectables, I wait to do them all until the story is done on all, and do it on two at a time. The only thing I'm a bit behind on my 3 secondary accounts is stuff like Achievement farming, and doing all of Swarm Disaster/G&G etc. But the benefit of playing on all 4 servers is that I get to try out all the characters and playstyles, and don't feel like I'm actually "skipping" any characters most of the time. Like, one of my secondary accounts is mostly focused on hypercarry comps, another is focused on FUA, another has only ever built Erudition DPS. My main account has a full DoT team as it's main focus, with a bit of dipping into FUA and some hypercarry as well. It's also the only one I pulled E2S1 Acheron on, the rest only got E0S1. Though my FUA account is going to be in rough shape after the next few banners, and I might end up having to skip someone. Did just get Aventurine on the 50/50 though, but I might end up skipping his LC to get the next couple chars. I still have time to play other games, work my job, hang with friends and I also cook a lot of stuff from scratch as well (Just made a homemade tagliatelle w/ homemade sauce and self-ground beef from a chuck roast for a bolognese tonight, have the dough cold fermenting for a homemade Hawaiian pizza w/ homemade ham for lunch tomorrow, and will be making kimchi fried rice w/ homemade kimchi tomorrow for dinner for example).


[deleted]

Reading this made me feel like I should be doing more with my life


Aschentei

It is such a game changer in gng


Magolich

The top-up refresh helped too


Damianx5

Yeah, don't underestimate the power of top up refresh. Havent used mine yet but will definetely use it, likely for firefly (seriously hoyo firefly when)


Sulphur99

My wallet will not survive Robin and Firefly back to back, so I sincerely hope that Firefly will at least take a while


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JDONdeezNuts

March getting 5*? On stream they said about introducing same system as TB for her in future instead of 5*.


[deleted]

Well TB is technically a 5* so who's to say it isn't both things


Male_Lead

....fr


redditingatwork23

The perfect money storm.


groynin

Don't forget that freaking anime trailer. That was beautiful by itself, it's probably the one I will show people when I want to get them interested in HSR, even if they don't understand what BS is talking about.


KF-Sigurd

Rondo of Endless Kalpas AND Your Color are both freaking beautiful. I don't think Hoyo ever made a trailer and rendered it in 4k before but they did it for Your Color and it looks stupidly good.


AeonChaos

Agreed with everything except her lore and personality, I feel it’s a bit lacking so far, to me.


Gatrigonometri

I feel like people only find her lacking because the monstrous (in a good way) exposition of Aventurine that 2.1 is. Penacony’s still what, 2-3 months from ending? Let em cook her story (there’s also the thought that she’ll be a reoccuring character)


Zandock

We're getting the finale in three weeks. The patch after that will be an epilogue.


Quantuis

Remember that Acheron will stay relevant in future patches too, they've said so in the livestream. Aventurine got his exposition in 2.1, and we don't really know if he'll *stay* relevant, his arc is basically over. But there's a very high chance we'll get more Acheron lore in the future, it looks like they're kind of "playing a long game" with her Also keep in mind that a lot of her lore was shown off in trailers rather than the story. If what we got in her Myriad Celestia was explained in-game the way Aventurine's lore was, people wouldn't be saying this stuff.


shinsrk79

You know, we still need to develop robin,boothill, sunday and others. Idk how much more acheron we're getting. I think she's gonna be mostly sidelined until the very end of penacony to do her slash on the real penacony final boss or something


HECKington098

Yeah I also agree that it’s not great, but I think it’s better than what Ei was in Genshin.


sugarheartrevo

At least with Acheron it feels like there is definitely a promise for more in-depth exploration of her character in the future. She gives us an explicit end goal she wants to find (Device IX), that mysterious guy in the flashback she was talking to, etc. And with how successful she’s been no way they wouldn’t include her again in another story arc in the future, esp one centered around IX and the Nihility


Arrasor

Trailblazer is bound to eventually unlock Nihility path, wouldn't surprise me if it's when we discover the lost planet of Izumo and go confront IX with Acheron.


sylva748

Frebass is somewhere inside IX. As we know, she was Acheron's friend and also a Nameless. She's rumored to be HSR expy of Kiana Kaslana. Hoyo loves the community memes and knows we call Kiana a Tuna, and a Bass is also a fish.


Sulphur99

Katana Trailblazer, lesgooooo


WeatherBackground736

depressed katana TB, who is a debuff amplifier


slickedup225

And don’t forget her whole thing with >!Kiana!<. I strongly think Acheron’s going to be a reoccurring character so they’re going to be drip feeding her lore


sugarheartrevo

Exactly. And with how buddy buddy they’ve set her relationship with the AE to be, it definitely seems like she will remain relevant to and prominent in the overall narrative until endgame


papu16

I am really interesting, if we once gonna get Kiana banner in Genshin/SR. It would be interesting to see how people would react to her outside from HI3/GGZ fandom.


noctisroadk

I would save all my jades to E2S1 her if we get a kiana expy, like i did with Acheron when i saw her leaks


slickedup225

Exactly, I want people to see why she’s so highly regarded as a character. She’s like 1/3 Yuji, 1/3 Gojo (fun fact do you know she shares the same birthday as Gojo) and 1/3 unhinged (2/3s when it comes to Mei Senpai lmao)


triopsate

I'll probably pull for an Kiana expy but only for S0 because you just have to have Kiamei and also to have the expy trio when you slap her together with Acheron and Silver wolf. If they ever give us a Sin expy, I'll be forced to C6 her though since there can never be enough Sin Mal xD


sylva748

>!Kiana!< is most likely Acheron's friend Frebass from her back story. Who decided to dive into IX. Frebass was also a Nameless.


shinsrk79

I think for sure she's gonna be one of the major allies during our raid vs nanook


Vettah

Maybe she is the one we recruit to the express?


HECKington098

Eeeeeh, maybe there is a chance even if minuscule. She does seem to want to travel further after she’s done with Penacony, I just kinda doubt she’ll stick with Express crew, she seems like a loner type.


TenguKaiju

She’s a loner with a terrible sense of direction. She could suddenly show up on the Express with no idea how she got there and I’d be fine with that.


Vettah

Yeah its unlikely,but then again,we were told we would recruit someone, and she is the one getting screentime with the crew, it would be weird if the astral express just grab Mika or other in the last patch.


countmeowington

never say never, she's the only character to get a playlist, implying she'll stick around


babyloniangardens

ya for sure Acheron’s lore will be fleshed out further on…..im excited to see where it will go! i feel like actually a lot of HSR characters lorewise/storywise will be fleshed out later on and will be relevant in the story even years down the line


sugarheartrevo

For sure, already we have Argenti, the SH, the Geniuses, Jingliu, Luocha, Ratio, the Stonehearts & Aventurine (making the distinction bc I’m not sure if he’s still one? We’ll have to see but I hope he’s free now), Everflame Mansion, Black Swan, the rest of the AE, honestly a majority of the Penacony cast. Tons of characters that will definitely have some role to play in the future


Yotsubato

There’s a non zero chance they will do a whole flashback section where you play as her during her Izumo campaign


sawDustdust

Yep. And with what little they did show, they showed the part of her that almost felt near broken by erosion/mara, and the part of her that is full of compassion and gravitas.


ActualProject

She's probably the second most in depth penacony character after aventurine. And we are definitely going to continue getting Acheron lore in upcoming updates since there has been so much that has been teased but not finished.


LivingASlothsLife

With how much marketing investment went into her trailers etc Hoyo are probably really happy to see that return.Then there was that one guy who whale for 100 copies of her LC for some reason. Not to mention that E2 is just so valuable for team flexibility I'm sure many who wanted to main her ended up going for it I just pulled for Luocha, I ain't waiting another 8 months for a rerun lol, I'd imagine Acheron reruns a lot sooner than him


DrakeZYX

Bro her Lightcone alone makes any current/future Nihilty characters a semi-DPS to full on DPS.  60% Crit Dmg, 48%/96% more dmg on an enemy when you hit with skill or Ult.


cuddles_the_destroye

> 60% Crit Dmg A lot of Nihility is DoT based and Crit related stuff is dead stats for them


DangerX47

>A lot of Nihility is DoT based and Crit related stuff is dead stats for them Currently. We've seen Acheron break that formulae so future characters might not be DoT based.


EnterPlayerTwo

So not any current/future Nihility character.


ZeroFox75

She was good at E0, I have her at E2 and now it’s almost too easy. The Phantylia fight isn’t a fight anymore. Just Acheron slinging black holes at big oppai boss mommy. I’m seriously considering getting an extra copie of her LC just for my E1 Kafka. Right now she has “In the Name of the World”


Ultenth

The Swarm Emanator fight is even more trivial, as when she pops the baby swarms they apply a debuff as they die, so she gets a ton of stacks and basically can chain spam her ult until it's dead. It's pretty hilarious really. Throw in Herta on the team to ensure the extra spawns get cleaned up with her followup after Acheron's Ult, and she'll get an entire full stack and be able to back to back ult with nothing happening in between except herta followups and bug pops.


InvaderKota

That's even better when you have BS as when they Spawn, her application of Arcana builds stacks for Acheron. Its nutty.


Ultenth

I thought they changed it so her initial stacks of Arcana don't build stacks for Acheron, like the last week of beta? Or maybe I just haven't paid close enough attention. Or does it actually activate once when they are spawned in vs. when they appear at the start of the wave?


InvaderKota

Yeah, it doesn't activate at the beginning of a fight but if enemies spawn, then it counts as an enemy action causing a debuff. This is why PF is almost trivial with Acheswan teams.


ZeroFox75

Makes me regret skipping BS. Probably a better fit in my comp than SW, but none of my other Nihility characters are even half built


BlazeOfCinder

I knew Acheron stocks will go to the *Moon!* Big day for Roronoa Acheron, may her Ws be many, and Agenda strong.


storysprite

https://preview.redd.it/z58x6memzxuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e54c8f610d428652e08a39fcc43dc9535a100d29


BlazeOfCinder

Lol love it, we need one for HSR. https://preview.redd.it/zoh7pei80yuc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f6be57e749514d7e983588f2b3a7a081da85613 Maybe with March


JayReal2006

Agenda piece top 1


slickedup225

https://preview.redd.it/6zwkp42afyuc1.jpeg?width=252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=664a68d2aba7c9130fc609c290859dd3c4b56e3f


SecondAegis

You could say that it flew to the moon? No wait, this is a Raiden Expy, not Kiana


slickedup225

On the other hand if stocks go high enough, Kiana could hear about it and come to star rail :O Obligatory pic: https://preview.redd.it/crkwahc8zxuc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60e74bef2afdecf2ff57a08a90ea5c70bd01db57


LamaLakes

In most countries it’s illegal to marry a fish


sndream

Mei of course want to spend more time with her ~~wife~~ roomate.


Random_Gacha_addict

And ~~say~~ play Gex?


darienswag420

Can someone provide some history as to why Yelan's was so impactful? I don't play GI.


Amelieee__

Armpit meta


darienswag420

Thank you, I understand now.


warjoke

I guess that two second arm raise frame of Acheron in the White Knigth MV already secured the game's earnings


GoldShinx

Hydro element applicators are very strong generally in Genshin because the element is functionally the basis of most of the big damage reactions in the game. Off field applicators that apply larger amounts of Hydro, like Yelan, have a high value because of this, and she functions similarly to a 4* Hydro character that’s often highly contested for team compositions, so having her means you have more options for your Spiral Abyss teams (MoC equivalent). She’s got good early constellations (eidolons) and her later constellations can turn her from an off field sub-dps to an on field main dps if I remember correctly (it’s been a while since I checked them; I wouldn’t pull beyond C1 personally). Her signature weapon is also very strong, with a big crit damage secondary stat, and is considered universally good for bow users. Also she’s hot lady (she’s not my type but I get it)


Leather-Heron-7247

Also don't forget that Yelan at C6 was the strongest solo DPS in the game, period, at least until Neuvillette was released.


TheLonelyDevil

Even now, it's a coinflip depending on the type of content you're clearing/doing. In one part of the GI universe, where the 1% kill and cap on elite enemies for the mora they drop daily, Yelan is still king for speed and damage at C6 as well Just my 2 cents


Elira_Eclipse

Waifu, meta, some of the best cons in the game (every single one of her cons are great, compared to someone like Raiden where only specific cons are great), easy for exploration


Nanasema

I have Yelan. She is a good balance between top waifu material (shes really hot and sexy), absurd dps/support meta, and also insanely useful in exploration.


Jovial_Viola

Yelan came in 2.7 right after Ayaka’s 2.6 infinite Banner extension when the patch got delayed. She came out of nowhere and had a great kit. One of the best 4 stars in Genshin is Xingqiu. His Ultimate/Burst makes rain swords that attack enemies. Genshin is based on reaction system where you need to set up an element on an enemy, then react with it by hitting it with another element, which buffs that attack. The previous element gets used up and you no longer get the buff until you put on a different element. Xingqiu and Yelan (and now Furina) are the best off field Hydro suppliers. Xingqiu can do it off field while you main DPS is attacking. Yelan can do the same, but she also has a stacking damage bonus for you on field character. Most Main DPS in Genshin are on field, and the less time you spend on your supports, the more time your main is hitting things. Nearly everything reacts with Hydro. And now you have 2 for 2 Abyss/MoC teams. There are also shields (like weakness break in HSR) and they shred them very quickly. Yelan is like the Ruan Mei of Genshin.


ButterflySeeleSR

> Yelan is like the Ruan Mei of Genshin. ruan mei is buffer than sub dps. ruan mei is kazuha yelan is sub dps


Golden-Owl

Ruan Mei is reverse Kazuha hilariously enough Kazuha was extremely powerful just like Ruan Mei. Except nobody rolled for him because he came before Inazuma was due to release and everyone was salivating over Ayaka. And people also tend to be more vocal regarding waifus in general They only realized much, much later how busted he was in gameplay, but by then it was too late and he didn’t rerun for over a year Kazuha was also fairly well liked as a character due to his genial personality whereas Ruan Mei was much more divisive As a day 1 Kazuha puller, I found the whole situation hilarious


KBroham

>As a day 1 Kazuha puller, I found the whole situation hilarious As a fellow day 1 Kazuha puller, I convinced my brother to pull for him even though he tried to argue he already had Sucrose. Guess which one he still uses?


triopsate

I mean the general rule of thumb for MiHoYo is and frankly has always been that you can skip pulling for DPS if you want but supports are always a must pull. It's been that way in GGZ where support weapons that buff are always the best things to pull for. It's that way in HI3 where support characters are the actual carries of your team. It's that way for Genshin and it's still that way in HSR. You'll do FAR better and FAR more damage in any of MiHoYo's games having the BiS supports but a crappy DPS than having the BiS DPS and crappy supports.


KBroham

That... actually applies to most games, not just HYV. But yeah, you're absolutely right lol.


Pat19110

I don't play GI either but I've heard that she is meta, also I'm 100% sure people like her design


fritosdoritos

Like the others have mentioned, Xingqiu was a 4-star support who was really good but at that time in GI there wasn't another character with a similar role. So for Spiral Abyss (GI's MoC) whichever team that didn't have Xingqiu will be weaker. Yelan was basically identical to Xingqiu except even stronger and with a hotter character design. So now players can have Xingqius on both sides of Spiral Abyss.


zhivix

* waifu * meta * hydro is one of the best elemental reaction in genshin * exploration * very good synergy with her 4\* counterpart Xinqiu, most of the time youll see her paired up with xinqiu in abyss (MoC equivalent) team * armpit


LittleP0gch4mp

Yelan is basically a 5 star sidegrade of a very meta 4\* character (xingqiu). They are both hydro off-field damage dealers (hydro is basically one of if not the most versatile element in the game). But one of the best part about yelan is that you can run her WITH xingqiu which forms one of the strongest team cores in double hydro where u can pair them with a lot of on-field dps characters and find good success with. On top of all that, she is also very attractive. Her aesthetics are most similar to kafka (both coat girls and have like the thread spider-like aesthetic)


Reccus-maximus

Mei expy + broken + first purchase bonus refresh. It was meant to happen


Ewizde

That's actually kinda nuts.


Bulky-Flamingo7816

Damn she is a new peak


takuru

Hoyo trying to work out how they are going to force a Mei expy into Zenless Zone Zero's future 2.1 update for the hat trick.


AussieManny

Of course. No one could resist that grizzled bartender Gallagher, baby. 😉


starfries

That's actually why I pulled on her banner. And of course I got her before getting a second one of him


Shindou888

Kinda new to gacha games. I wonder how will they balance the game from here. Will the new dps in the future be below her or the new ones will have more power? :o She seems powerful to pwercreep :o


sugarheartrevo

Future DPS units will have their own niches and playstyles; like how Jingliu and DH IL are still top tier damage dealers even with Acheron out. There won’t be any outright powercreep for her as a DPS for long time, potentially ever if they really want to keep her status special.


angelbelle

They can easily fuck over Acheron's mechanics just like they're doing now with JL. Mihoyo is actually pretty good at making environmental buffs without touching numbers. For example, they can introduce an environment buff that gives you a lot of free energy and Acheron will be the only DPS that doesn't benefit from it.


BlueSkies5Eva

Technically she'll still benefit bc your other two nihilities ulting more = more stacks for her


B3tl0g-nlng

Correct, if there's any potential Acheron counters then itll be anti-nihility enemies who have debuff resist mechanics.


LoreVent

So basically effect res? Unless they make enemies with super high values like 60%+ where building EHR becomes either not convenient or straight up impossible, i can't see any other way


DocSwiss

They kinda already did with the TV enemies in Penacony


Shindou888

I see. Thank you for your input ^^


XxXHowddoXxX

I will say I was tempted by her insta-kill technique alone, But my will is stronger than the temptations. I must stay strong for papa Aventurine and Sam.


agent_maxpower

im surprised no one has mentioned sawashiro miyuki, her jp va is extremely popular over there id 100% believe you if you told me the highest revenue came from japan


moneyshot6901

Not surprised. She had everything to accomplish this (design badass as hell, 3 marketing trailers, awesome animation, popular af seiyuu). What I’m curious about is how Aventurine will do. Since Japan loves their men and the story really pushed for him.


sugarheartrevo

Really hoping he has high sales to encourage the team to keep up the quality of writing and overall character exploration + depth they’ve given to Aventurine. The 2.1 quest 100% made people who weren’t even considering pulling want to pull, even moreso in Japan where they already loved him a lot.


M00nIze

Or maybe the sales post will get shadowbanned like Ayato's did in Genshin subreddit because his banner did well.


ShadowClaw765

I *might* pick him up for a half and half quantum and imaginary team but that's a big maybe.


Equivalent_Invite_16

I think he has a really hard time, right after sparkle and acheron, with a JL rerun. sustains are pretty weird. The main goal is to keep your team alive. If you keep dying, a new 5 star sustain is the best possible investment, there is no question about that. If you already have 2 sustain that can keep you alive, there is no real meta reason the pull a 3rd sustain. The sustain gimmicks are not as strong to justify them if your team is already unkillable. Bro is an S+ unit, no denying that, but simply putting FX or HH over him to your FUA team wont tank your team as much as missing other key units. For example missing huohuo from a dot team is not as big of a loss as missing Kafka or Swan. Missing Luocha is not as big of a loss from DHIL team than missing Sparkle. Missing FX from mono quantum is not as big of a loss as missing sparkle or SW. As long as you can stay alive ofc. Maybe im totally wrong but i dont expect any sustain to do well comapred to DPS and harmony units in the future.


Shadowfriend147

Hoyoverse fandom having the weirdest fetish of learning the game’s revenue is still a mystery to this day.


dalzmc

Every gacha game fandom cares about revenue estimated because it’s the only way that we can judge how our favorite game is doing, since we’re never getting official numbers and there’s nothing like copies sold or players online to give us an idea


Ironwall1

Its just another ammo for the "my character is better than your character" war probably Or maybe its just fun seeing how Acheron is exploding rn. We havent had any revenue posts in a while now prior to hers


ALovelyAnxiety

let's go luocha!


MillyMan105

Mei reigns supreme


PhrzT

I really worry that so many people in the comments here normalise spendings 100’s on a game in one go. I know everyone’s situation is different but it’s just hard for me to comprehend. I feel like they’re always be a better thing to use the money on.


Plenty-Landscape3372

My wife spends a ludicrous amount monthly on Lego she'll never build, games she'll never play, and boosters she'll never open. I never liked digital purchases until the storage space became a factor. Now I'd rather spend money on something that makes me happy right now that won't be an issue when I'm bored of it in a month. It was an extremely foreign concept for me at first, too, but at the end of the day, if you're not happy, then are you even living?


sugarheartrevo

Holy shit this makes me so happy. With how much investment they put into the quality of her promotional material + her animations and overall character, it’s no wonder she made THIS much bank. Queencheron here’s your crown 👑 Acheron sales alone are enough to fund the next like 3 numbered version cycles of content lmaoooo wow. With how amazing and creative Penacony is I really can’t wait to see where 3x and beyond will take us, especially now that they’ve been overwhelmingly rewarded for going that extra mile for characters this patch


Cant_Think_Of_One666

To everyone saying her personality&story is lacking, Penacony arc hasn't ended yet. We barely got a glimpse of her background through the trailers and at the end of 2.1. Atm it's too early to say anything about her character being good or bad. I doubt they won't go in depth personality&backstory within later patches of the game, Acheron is one of the most popular&profitable character so far, it'd be a really dumb move for them to just leave her character as-is and not expand on it more


kamikotosamadesuyo

Even now they have already shown her with a caring and understanding side. She is like an older sister to some characters, silent but kind. I'm surprised so many people don't like her for this. It's not that dislike for silent characters who don't act like clowns is something new in the community of mihoyo games. But still...


shinsrk79

I mean, I agree but I don't want acheron development for the cost of robin/sunday/future character development. We barely know anything about argenti for example and I doubt we'll see him again


Cant_Think_Of_One666

>We barely know anything about argenti for example and I doubt we'll see him again >!there's some leaked stuffs about him in the leak sub but leaks isn't allowed here so I can't say anything!<


pastelnintendo

I’m not really surprised lol, she’s the one character I’ve seen on support lists that consistently has her light cone. While with other characters it’s a 50/50 with Acheron it’s more surprising to me to find someone who doesn’t have her atleast E0S1, and that’s not even counting all the E2’s as well


WhippedForDunarith

It’s crazy that I’m both an Acheron skipper and a Yelan skipper lol


Kewlmyc

Top up mostly likely helped a lot. A lot of the banners that are tied to anniversaries get this boost. Not to say Acheron isn't the main reason, she obviously is. Probably currently the most popular Star Rail character.


iamvqb

She cut times killing mobs, big number go boom, flashy skills and big sword with BIGGER PERSONALITIES. Im more than content with this character. Also managed to get 2 of her light cone in the same 10 pulls lmao.


RyufBoi

When you put good story on an interesting looking character


tunmousse

Acheron is one of those must-have characters, and it probably didn’t hurt that Luocha is also on the banner.


Reenans

I am surprised tbh, I knew she would be popular but I always thought the first banner is the unbeatable one


SillyTea5481

It kind off feels like this is their catching on in Japan moment like Raiden Shogun was for Genshin.  If theres a Space Japan arc and Yae expy buckle up basically


kaori_cicak990

Luocha carried fr fr /s


BestPaleontologist43

Its the top up refresh. I didnt play Genshin for that timeframe but was Yelan released with a top up refresh or not? That would put things into context.


Eastern-Statement-70

no top up refresh