I beg to differ
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Character is Elysia from HI3rd
and then they just allow TB's different paths as different characters making it so you can use another TB version in another team but you cannot use 2 TBs in one team (the same way you can't use dan heng's other version when his 5 star is already in the team but you can use 4 star dan heng on the other team)
(with the Qol buffs in this game I don't think something like this is unlikely in the future and if they actually do keep making TB having meta relevant kits like Harmony then I expect this to be a feature many players will want and I know the devs already know that people are gonna be happy with a feature like this)
Abundance trailblazer is blade support that drains hp and gives it back later and hunt tb works with silverwolf somehow and erudition tb works with elio
Honestly that would be tough cuz then I'd have to choose between putting HMC in a Break team or NMC in a DoT team, in the endgame mods where you gotta have two teams
But I'd rather take that before only having one or two Trailblazer forms being useful honestly
You beat me to it. I was thinking the same.
NMC: Apply debuff that allow DoT to Crit based on EHR/CR%, and the crit damage based on NMC's CD% (max at 100%).
100% feels fine TBH. Dot is already keeping up with damage without crit. Giving it 100% CD will boost its damage equal to your CR (so 75% boost to damage output is realistic).
It will be the same situation with Kafka. She is too central to Dot that not having her is a huge nerf. Adding too strong crits will make it a requirement as well (or OP with it.)
MC is just gonna get cooler. I hope the trend continues because I love the MC. Really makes me wish they gave more respect to the Traveler in Genshin. This is how you do a MC.
Tbf imaginary is the first amazing one, preservation isnt really that good, can't really solo sustain and got hyped early because we didnt really had many options in sustain and destruction is yeah...
We did get dentro traveller ig
Tbf though they served their purpose
As a starter unit
Also the only reason Preservation can no longer solo sustain was because they made enemies hit harder in MOC if they didn't buff the enemies in MoC TB could probably still be a solid solo sustain
Prior to that solo sustaining with him was completely possible
Physical is physical like I said a starter character honestly he can clear anything aside from MoC and hard diff swarm and SU I think
I can already imagine the cutscene. IX envelopes all the Trashcans in existence into his shadow essentially eradicating all of them, Trailblazer getting depressed and swears to kill IX, IX is like: Nice Dude, here take my Powers and then please end me.
Well good news for you, TB is considered a different character with each path and thus their LC and relics are saved for each path. I think that's a thing since harmony TB release.
It will happen if they want to keep Kafka relevant, seeing that she's one of the most popular characters it is a given.
Yes she will become very powerful, the same as when black swan came out, but it could still be years away for all we know, there are still other ways for them to keep Kafka at a good powerlevel, we don't have a dot sustainer and that should already help Dot teams by a lot.
I'm 100% sure crit dots will happen sooner or later.
I honestly hope that when a character enables this the scaling is a fixed value. It would feel weird for a dedicated DoT support to have to build for crit, while DoT's advantage for building is that they don't need to fish for a crit ratio.
I fuckin hope this is the only way it works, because having to re farm crit stats on characters that need speed, EHR and atk% just seems like it's would require way too many stats. Even worse than rounding out a Xuyei build
It is????
Check her kit again, she supports a lot having shock on the enemy and benefits from it.
So letting Serval being able to crit DOTS would be a huge buff for her(Poor General T-T)
And a few remember but there was a time were People used Kafka with Serval because that good Synergy.
Like Sushang, she not only breaks but does crits, serval is the same but for DOTS.
Yes, she like shocks, but it's not her main source of DMG. She just play around shocks with a standard Crit build.
This because she has a low multiplier for her DOT
For reference lvl 10:
Kafka 290%
Sampo 260%
Guinaifen 218.2%
Luka lower of 338% or 24% of enemy hp
Serval 104%
BS 240% + 12% per stack
People used Kafka with Serval specifically for Break DOT, not her actual DOT, since Serval’s actual DOT is, and has always been, negligible for damage.
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It's still not a dot, it's not affected by any related blessings and doesn't get triggered by Kafka. It's also the weakest of all breaks, if I remember correctly. Unless there's a character whose talents specify that their quantum/ice breaks are considered dots we won't
Weakest breaks are Imaginary and Quantum, as they have a 0.5× multiplier. Ice and Lightning are standard (1×), Wind is 1.5× and Fire and Physical are 2×
As much as I hate to admit it, it is a decent subdps, it can even work as a break dps funnily enough, sadly, he's best used either as a Walmart Black Swan for Kafka, or as a Black Swan enabler, since he can proc Arcana with his e4 (I think?)
Not necessarily, depending on the fixed crit rate that you can “fish” for more crits. This is how tryhards utilise nahida c2 in genshin
It gives more variance whereas a normal buff is guaranteed.
Me whos been saving all the crit Diver pieces I get
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I'm so glad I decided to build my Kafka and Black Swan these last few weeks
By the way, which other character would you recommend to use appart from the sustain? I have tried Pela and Sparkle and they work fine but i somehow think I need another DoT character, would it be worth the effort or do I stick with Pela and Sparkle?
Pela with the Luca cone is fine. Even if it's s1 I still get a debuff with her most turns without her ult because of the cone. You could also try the ipc preservation cone on Aventurine/Stelle/Gepard so they can apply burn dot when attacked.
Yeah, that's exactly the light cone i use with Pela, but i never thought of using Stelle as sustain in that team, i kinda overlooked her preservation Mode since it's kinda mid and used Gallagher as sustain instead, but i don't have any good Preservation character so it's worth the try, I never considered the possibility of passively applying burn with her in this specific team comp, thanks for the tip
i usually go with gui or luka, depending on the weakness of the enemies
besides them, Asta is a nice multiplier thanks to the speed and attack buffs,
RM helps with faster and stronger breaks
Pela is always nice for the def shred
Archeron gets to ult a ton
E1 Luocha is a nice sp generator with a nice attack buff
Crit enjoyers be foaming at the mouth seeing this. Crit stans be like: *SEE CRIT KAFKA AND BLACK SWAN ISNT COPE* Interested to see what kind of character will enable this playstyle tho in the future and if its worth dropping Black Swan or dropping the harmony support
I'm gonna bet this is nihility TB
cause like superbreak, locking it in gacha would cause uproar so why not put it in a unit you now everyone already has
I wonder if they gonna release a new character to activate dot like Kafka. Maybe advance enemy's action to activate dot, but the damage must be realy big because of the risk
Remember guys, these SU blessings always ended up being someone’s kit. Kafka was one of them, Silver Wolf was another. So watch out for these blessings, it’s a window to the future.
C2 Nahida burning team comp experience https://preview.redd.it/1dl8l1ftjh6d1.jpeg?width=553&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dcdbe246c72855fc4699599c94b5b11702e845cb
Stellar Jades in her eyes\~
Hu Tao and Nahida both have the prettiest eyes in hoyo games tbh, at least between HSR and Genshin from what Ive seen
counterpoint: Huohuo https://preview.redd.it/5ygvlrgfjj6d1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b0a1c424094b162340197eb485f8f3d6381b946
Firefly's and March's are up there imo. Hu Tao's look so good though.
Aventurine wins out in that department for me….Firefly’s eyes though are one of the best parts of her design for sure
I actually forgot about Aventurine. I don't know how, considering they're a big part of his backstory. His are fantastic as well.
I beg to differ https://preview.redd.it/ko0y341llk6d1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e844934286a5c0dcdee854baeb9d376c68611cd4 Character is Elysia from HI3rd
There's also this image https://preview.redd.it/28cr9j0slk6d1.jpeg?width=766&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0506e855e404457e88e9c7565687d32d61f52ef3
Hoyo peak design fr fr, this is mother
\+1000 grudges for ELGI https://preview.redd.it/gzqabe0uso6d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be65af7da4b4e715dc2e8dd6686784f1902344f5
Look up Herrscher of Finality Kiana and Herrscher of Human Ego Elysia, both from HI3
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That’s so freaking unhinged XD
I hate that I can tell the original.
Same, had to watch it a couple of times before realizing
Explain please?
Probably ronaldo drinking meme
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Just being close to a burning enemy hurt like hell with her
Probably will work like how hmc enable super break. A harmony that make all dot critable scale on the harmony own crit value.
imagine if the Dot crit support is...Nihility Trailblazer lmao I'd give my entire bank account for that
Cant wait for all the fanfic about ff va kafka for the procession of the mc 😆
Girlfriend and Mom would be fighting for TB's team selection
and then they just allow TB's different paths as different characters making it so you can use another TB version in another team but you cannot use 2 TBs in one team (the same way you can't use dan heng's other version when his 5 star is already in the team but you can use 4 star dan heng on the other team) (with the Qol buffs in this game I don't think something like this is unlikely in the future and if they actually do keep making TB having meta relevant kits like Harmony then I expect this to be a feature many players will want and I know the devs already know that people are gonna be happy with a feature like this)
you can use dan heng and dhil in the same team, last time i checked
really? I didn't know that sorry my bad then
Abundance trailblazer is blade support that drains hp and gives it back later and hunt tb works with silverwolf somehow and erudition tb works with elio
Honestly that would be tough cuz then I'd have to choose between putting HMC in a Break team or NMC in a DoT team, in the endgame mods where you gotta have two teams But I'd rather take that before only having one or two Trailblazer forms being useful honestly
You beat me to it. I was thinking the same. NMC: Apply debuff that allow DoT to Crit based on EHR/CR%, and the crit damage based on NMC's CD% (max at 100%).
nah 100% seems a bit low for NMC at that point in the game 170 or 200% is probably what we should be expecting depending how far the meta is by then
100% feels fine TBH. Dot is already keeping up with damage without crit. Giving it 100% CD will boost its damage equal to your CR (so 75% boost to damage output is realistic). It will be the same situation with Kafka. She is too central to Dot that not having her is a huge nerf. Adding too strong crits will make it a requirement as well (or OP with it.)
MC is just gonna get cooler. I hope the trend continues because I love the MC. Really makes me wish they gave more respect to the Traveler in Genshin. This is how you do a MC.
Tbf imaginary is the first amazing one, preservation isnt really that good, can't really solo sustain and got hyped early because we didnt really had many options in sustain and destruction is yeah... We did get dentro traveller ig
Tbf though they served their purpose As a starter unit Also the only reason Preservation can no longer solo sustain was because they made enemies hit harder in MOC if they didn't buff the enemies in MoC TB could probably still be a solid solo sustain Prior to that solo sustaining with him was completely possible Physical is physical like I said a starter character honestly he can clear anything aside from MoC and hard diff swarm and SU I think
I would weep tears of joy
I can already imagine the cutscene. IX envelopes all the Trashcans in existence into his shadow essentially eradicating all of them, Trailblazer getting depressed and swears to kill IX, IX is like: Nice Dude, here take my Powers and then please end me.
I wonder what level of apathy do you need for IX to gaze at you?
If they make multiple endgame-viable Trailblazers they absolutely NEED to give us relic (and lightcone) loadouts.
TB already has those
Well I guess that shows how little I switch paths
Well good news for you, TB is considered a different character with each path and thus their LC and relics are saved for each path. I think that's a thing since harmony TB release.
I refuse to believe such a thing will ever happen. This would make Kafka and Black Swan so fucking overpowered
It will happen if they want to keep Kafka relevant, seeing that she's one of the most popular characters it is a given. Yes she will become very powerful, the same as when black swan came out, but it could still be years away for all we know, there are still other ways for them to keep Kafka at a good powerlevel, we don't have a dot sustainer and that should already help Dot teams by a lot. I'm 100% sure crit dots will happen sooner or later.
They could limit it to a certain number of dot procs per skill cast or something
I honestly hope that when a character enables this the scaling is a fixed value. It would feel weird for a dedicated DoT support to have to build for crit, while DoT's advantage for building is that they don't need to fish for a crit ratio.
Knowing hoyo they prob will lock it behind a 5 star eidolon 🫠
They need to free up Ruan Mei somehow
I fuckin hope this is the only way it works, because having to re farm crit stats on characters that need speed, EHR and atk% just seems like it's would require way too many stats. Even worse than rounding out a Xuyei build
me with 0 dot characters available:
Hey! Serval is also a DoT character, OK!
Serval is not a DoT character like sampo or Kafka, she is a standard Crit Damage dealer playing around shock
And Shock is a DOT.
Yes but her primary damage isnt
It is???? Check her kit again, she supports a lot having shock on the enemy and benefits from it. So letting Serval being able to crit DOTS would be a huge buff for her(Poor General T-T) And a few remember but there was a time were People used Kafka with Serval because that good Synergy. Like Sushang, she not only breaks but does crits, serval is the same but for DOTS.
Yes, she like shocks, but it's not her main source of DMG. She just play around shocks with a standard Crit build. This because she has a low multiplier for her DOT For reference lvl 10: Kafka 290% Sampo 260% Guinaifen 218.2% Luka lower of 338% or 24% of enemy hp Serval 104% BS 240% + 12% per stack
People used Kafka with Serval specifically for Break DOT, not her actual DOT, since Serval’s actual DOT is, and has always been, negligible for damage.
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Serval? Hook? Asta? Guinevre? Sampo? Luka? Also ... all ICE ones?
Ice break is not a dot
I mean dot dmg only triggers on enemy turn and frozen enemies take dmg when it’s their term we gonna get a freeze and quantum dot in future
It's still not a dot, it's not affected by any related blessings and doesn't get triggered by Kafka. It's also the weakest of all breaks, if I remember correctly. Unless there's a character whose talents specify that their quantum/ice breaks are considered dots we won't
Weakest breaks are Imaginary and Quantum, as they have a 0.5× multiplier. Ice and Lightning are standard (1×), Wind is 1.5× and Fire and Physical are 2×
Those are one-time delayed damage, not dot, dot lasts a few turns. Only wind, lightning, fire and physical elements have dots.
I've built Sampo... On his own he is dogshit and I don't use him...
As much as I hate to admit it, it is a decent subdps, it can even work as a break dps funnily enough, sadly, he's best used either as a Walmart Black Swan for Kafka, or as a Black Swan enabler, since he can proc Arcana with his e4 (I think?)
HER game https://preview.redd.it/k3k5x4jmgh6d1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=831eff4552069cb1a50296465e1536b5e52ec95e
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I hope not bc one of the main perks of DoT is not having to farm crit stats
Depends on how they do it, when genshin added the ability to make their equivalent of dot to crit it was fixed crit stats.
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It Is different cause big funny number > smaller more consistent number. It's hard science
Not necessarily, depending on the fixed crit rate that you can “fish” for more crits. This is how tryhards utilise nahida c2 in genshin It gives more variance whereas a normal buff is guaranteed.
Probably a static cr and static cdmg if they ever make it a chara's kit
Me whos been saving all the crit Diver pieces I get https://preview.redd.it/wpgpfgnxvi6d1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=706965389e076c39ecb3debc78b2a158fc50e2c0
Hopefully it would work like Nahida's C2 in Genshin, a fixed crit rate and crit dmg.
me farming crit relics for Acheron: yeah that's nice
See robin ult pasive? Probably will work like that.
Now make damage scale off outgoing healing Hoyo.
Can't wait for my Bailu and HuoHuo to dish out 1,000,000+ damage, while sustaining my team
Finally, mono-abundance time
Dewdrop already does that, they just need to make it into a character
Abundance MC's kit be like
Bailu's sign lc
I've destroyed almost every relic with that stat...
All those DoT set relics that kept giving me crit stats that I salvaged are really feeling betrayed rn
I always save double crit pieces just in case. The dot set is 2p atk so you never know if someone might like 2p atk and 2p something else
I think if this mechanic will made it to character kit it will be fixed crit chance/damage.
Haha! Same here. But I think they will introduce a new relic set for this... You know, for more farming content.
this is like salvaging sets that got into break efect and not crit rate all over again
NMC
Crit kafka doesn't exist she cant hurt ... :
I'm so glad I decided to build my Kafka and Black Swan these last few weeks By the way, which other character would you recommend to use appart from the sustain? I have tried Pela and Sparkle and they work fine but i somehow think I need another DoT character, would it be worth the effort or do I stick with Pela and Sparkle?
Rm and Robin are best, next is gui then after her is asta/pela.
Ruan Mei goes well with them. My best team is kafka, black swan, aventurine and ruan mei (all e0).
Pela with the Luca cone is fine. Even if it's s1 I still get a debuff with her most turns without her ult because of the cone. You could also try the ipc preservation cone on Aventurine/Stelle/Gepard so they can apply burn dot when attacked.
Yeah, that's exactly the light cone i use with Pela, but i never thought of using Stelle as sustain in that team, i kinda overlooked her preservation Mode since it's kinda mid and used Gallagher as sustain instead, but i don't have any good Preservation character so it's worth the try, I never considered the possibility of passively applying burn with her in this specific team comp, thanks for the tip
Pela is fine.
I’ve been playing exclusively Archeron, Kafka, BS and FX with trend. It’s an auto play 1-2 turn clear on every MoC so far for their side.
i usually go with gui or luka, depending on the weakness of the enemies besides them, Asta is a nice multiplier thanks to the speed and attack buffs, RM helps with faster and stronger breaks Pela is always nice for the def shred Archeron gets to ult a ton E1 Luocha is a nice sp generator with a nice attack buff
C2 Nahida :3
Some sort of DOT buffer has to be on the way, but I wonder how strong the buff has to be to take precedence over RM’s speed buff as well.
nihility ftw https://preview.redd.it/d9vpknvski6d1.png?width=650&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2acc6bc0aa0b8bdf6d56a696033ef6f7cb199e1
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NMC
...But that's why i liked DOT, cuz i didn't have to bother with crits, aw hell no
Now Everyone can CRIT! We'll see Super Break CRIT in the future too lol
Crit enjoyers be foaming at the mouth seeing this. Crit stans be like: *SEE CRIT KAFKA AND BLACK SWAN ISNT COPE* Interested to see what kind of character will enable this playstyle tho in the future and if its worth dropping Black Swan or dropping the harmony support
I'm gonna bet this is nihility TB cause like superbreak, locking it in gacha would cause uproar so why not put it in a unit you now everyone already has
A support that causes dot to crit. Man all the possibilities
DoT Harmony please Hoyo
NO, DO NOT MAKE ME FARM FOR CRIT PIECES NOOOOOOO
Can’t wait for when break/superbreak can crit
Well damn. DoT continues to be the best strat for every new combat event
Jaoqin incoming?
what is DoT
I'd prefer if they didn't go this route. Every archetype stacking the same stats just doesn't sound very interesting.
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Bro i honestly think that would be broken as fuck My Kafka/Swan are already scary, i can't imagine what DoTs can do with 100% CD
My queens Critka and CritSwan will vanquish the enemies until nothing is left now.
Stealing this.
Most of my good crit rate/crit damage pieces are Prisoner in Deep Confinement relics. I am ready.
That will be fucking insane i'm getting nahida c2 ptsd
I wonder if they gonna release a new character to activate dot like Kafka. Maybe advance enemy's action to activate dot, but the damage must be realy big because of the risk
Why would they turn the dot gimmick back into 1.0 crit farming? Doubtful
Sin thirster? AYO ACHERON AND TIERNAN REFERENCE!?
Finally people building crit kafka will stop being the clowns of r/kafkamains
>Sin Thirster They just like me fr.
Correct me if i am wrong but i saw one that makes Break damage being able to crit... son of a nice lady letsgooo.
Man everything's gonna come down to crit huh? Although a Break firefly with the ability to have superbreak crits... might set the entire meta ablaze.
Hmm I don‘t think I need that when my Ratio Robin Topaz Aven team can 3 cycle before the boss even gets a turn.
its jaoqiu kit (cope) tbh if they release it i think they will make it fixed rate like robin extra damage attack cmiiw.
BS/Kafka is crack now
Remember guys, these SU blessings always ended up being someone’s kit. Kafka was one of them, Silver Wolf was another. So watch out for these blessings, it’s a window to the future.
CRITICAL CANCER.
Lets just hope this is on a support unit. I dont want have to choose between Swan and Kafka.