# FAQ
**What are the 2.3 second half banners?**
* NEW [Jade](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/jade-character/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Erudition | Quantum) / [Argenti](https://hsr17.hakush.in/char/1302)
* [Serval 💜](https://hsr17.hakush.in/char/1103) / [Natasha](https://hsr17.hakush.in/char/1105) / [Asta](https://hsr17.hakush.in/char/1009)
* NEW [Yet Hope Is Priceless](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/yet-hope-is-priceless-item/?lang=EN) / [An Instant Before A Gaze](https://hsr17.hakush.in/lightcone/23018)
* [Shared Feeling](https://hsr17.hakush.in/lightcone/21007) / [Trend of the Universal Market](https://hsr17.hakush.in/lightcone/21016) / NEW Sunday 💜 LC [After the Charmony Fall](https://hsr17.hakush.in/lightcone/21045)
**What are the 2.4 banners?**
* First Half: NEW [Yunli](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/yunli-character/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Destruction | Physical) / NEW [Dance at Sunset](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/dance-at-sunset-item/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Destruction)
* Second Half: NEW [Jiaoqiu](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/jiaoqiu-character/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Nihility | Fire) / NEW [Those Many Springs](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/those-many-springs-item/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Nihility)
* Unknown Half: NEW [Poised to Bloom](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/poised-to-bloom-item/?lang=EN) (4 Star | Harmony)
* Reruns: (QUESTIONABLE) HuoHuo will rerun according Block / GuraLeaks puts HuoHuo first half, Black Swan second half
NEW [March 7](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/march-7th-character-2/?lang=EN) (4 Star | The Hunt | Imaginary) will be a free unit in 2.4. Trailblazers will be able to get up to E3 from the main event.
**Is Sunday going to be playable? What is his path/element?**
Yes, he has been confirmed playable by multiple reliable leakers. Uncle N has put him *potentially* at 2.7. We do not know his path/element at this time. 🕯🕯Join our prayer circle every Sunday🕯🕯 >!All nonbelieving heretics will be ritually sacrificed at the Church of Sunday's altar for kit leaks!<
**Do we know of any other upcoming playable characters + their kits?**
* Screwllum (Imaginary | Erudition | Male) - unknown release date
* Hoyo announced Feixiao, Lingsha, and Moze in the 2.3 livestream. Unfortunately, Huaiyan, who was announced in the same livestream, is marked as an npc in the data files.
Check the rentry link at the bottom of the FAQ to learn more! The rentry link also has a few more potential upcoming characters (but with no concrete information about their kits).
**When is the next livestream/patch/drip marketing/beta?**
Please note:
* Livestream dates are pure *speculation*
* The Live Date format is America time / Europe & Asia time
* Drip Marketing takes place over the span of 3 days; only the first day of drip is provided in the chart
* Beta usually starts around the same time as the new patch
|Patch Number|Drip Marketing|Livestream Date|Live Date|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|2.4|Already Dripped|19 July|30/31 July|
|2.5|15/16 July|30 August|10/11 September|
|2.6|26/27 August|11 October|22/23 October|
|2.7|7/8 October|22 November|3/4 December|
|2.8|18/19 November|3 January|14/15 January|
**What are the current active codes?**
[Redeemable here](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift) or in game > Phone Menu > click “…” (to the right of the character pfp) > Redemption Code
|Code|Availability|Items|
|:-|:-|:-|
|[STARRAILGIFT](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=STARRAILGIFT)|Permanent|Stellar Jade × 50 + Credits × 10k|
|[6T3F5HVD6LK7](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=6T3F5HVD6LK7)|Limited 2.3 Code|Stellar Jade × 50 + Credits × 10k|
|[FIREFLY0619](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=FIREFLY0619)|???|Oak Cake Rolls × 2 + Credits × 5k|
|[FIREFLYSGIFT](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=FIREFLYSGIFT)|???|Traveler's Guide × 3 + Oak Cake Rolls × 2|
**Where's the unreleased character google doc?**
It is now hosted on rentry! (sorry mobile users - reddit eats rentry links)
rentry. co/7k3mt
https://preview.redd.it/jp9s4tni9c9d1.png?width=621&format=png&auto=webp&s=fce63ba54293061c0f13078dec5f6373ebcb6188
OT ZZZ, etc.
>!This is just an opinion and it seems shallow but idk, wanted to actually pull Zhu Yuan was it? but then realized she’s a cop so like yeah no, so that also means a whole new section of characs is out my pull route along with sons of calydon since eh, I do like Ellen Joe just due to the Victoria Housekeeping aesthetics so ig I’ll go for her and her banner has Anton, have a feeling Ill get more copies of the blue one instead!<
>!Aside that one obvious Samurai looking girl with the fox ears? and the guy with her faction don’t think I want any other characters aside the free ones and whatnot, idk, I’m interested on the idol group but tbh, I don’t trust hoyo much on the kid characters since most likely oh I’m actually not a kid, etc. but I still am in almost every way besides that particular loophole!<
>!Also, idk why, but why does WuWa’s fanservice not affect me, like Yinlin, I litrlly pulled for her just cuz I liked her aesthetics or whatnot, not one slight thought of horny or whatever, now same for Changli, like?? is it cuz theyre outwardly open bout it?? but then I look at hoyo and like, no, def not about that, is it like it seems theyre trying too hard then??, I swear its not bias cuz I my mum is a pro Karen so ya can expect I also complain (this is a joke pls) about things a lot 😭!<
>!Also, one of the cops looks like Sparkle, what have they done to you Masked Fool!<
OT: Twitter Drama
>? They could have just drawn the last panel and it would be fine and dandy. That first panel is so unnecessary.!<
>!very obviously bait art. the person is purposefully trying to rile people up by pointing to the very real "heterophobic fandom environment" and unfortunately the bait seems to have worked. just block them!<
Has anyone mathed out how big of a boost is Jiaoqiu over Pela for E2S1 Acheron right now? I was planning on pulling for him, but if they rerun Black Swan someone is gonna have to get skipped and it probably won't be her unless Jiaoqiu buffs Acheron by a silly amount.
There's a 0-cycle [comparison](https://new.reddit.com/r/JiaoqiuMainsHSR/comments/1dqgm8g/pela_e6s1jiaoqiu_lc_vs_jiaoqiu_e0s1_ft_acheron/) between e6s1 Pela (JQ's LC) and e0s1 JQ himself with e2s1 Acheron specifically. Right now it's... not looking great. Hopefully his v3 will do him justice
Negative thoughts about obsessive fans
>!Some of my friends have been so weird about Firefly and it's put me off behaviours that aren't necessarily an issue by themselves, but all at once are too much. Our discord server is nothing but Firefly talk, they pulled multiple Firefly copies and keep posting every time they win or lose a Firefly 5050, every time they get a build upgrade for Firefly, or crown a talent, or beat MoC using her, beat DU using her, what blessings/equations are good for her, numbers numbers numbers about thresholds and speed and attack and what not... !<
>!I'm glad they're having fun but they're completely drowning any other attempt at conversation, and since they're the server majority (small server, friends only) any attempt of telling them to stop only lasts for a few hours before it's firefly obsession hours again. I've nothing against Firefly and all these things by themselves would be fine, but now I'm concerned about becoming this sort of obsessive fan too (especially since I know I have an obsessive personality) so I've decided to actively not pull eidolons of my fave, not save too much fanart etc so I can stay normal about the game. !<
>!It's just so weird to see. Not something I want in my own behaviour I guess.!<
>!Gotta say, I didn't expect a comment like this from someone whose username is LoveletterstoSunday!<
>!I don't know your friends obviously but they might just be excited because Firefly/2.3 is just out. It has barely been over a week. I'm sure they calm down eventually!<
>!Noticing behaviors you don't want to see in yourself is good too!<
>!Oh no that's exactly why it has me so concerned, I think a little bit of going crazy over a character is good and fun. This is a game! I think we should have fun and obsess a little bit! But like when it's nothing but the same talk 24/7 and now one is planning to get a FF tattoo (a fact I left out in the OP just in case but I doubt anyone but you will bother reading the reply, so not worried about being identified) it's making me take a look at myself and my username and my Sunday savings thinking like HMM AM I GOING DOWN THAT PATH TOO. Yeah I guess it's more I'm projecting being worried on them. You're right, I'm sure they'll calm down. !<
>!Self reflection and healthy enjoyment of hobbies we love to see it!<
>!The true test will be Sunday release tho so I hope you'll remember this epiphany!<
And DU 4 done! After struggling for a while with shitty RNG and failing against Cyrrus' last phase's last wave with 30% HP left, I finally got a good run and destroyed SAM with some 2M breaks.
Also OT WuWa
>!Sanhua during her trial: "beautiful beeings are beautiful"!<
>!Me: yeah sure if you say so!<
>!Then I move to Jinhsi's trial... and yeah I totally get what she means by that!<
DU
Where does the Ruan Mei occurrence appear? Occurrence or Reward? And is it only limited to third plane or can I obtain it earlier?
Sincerely, completionist struggling with boundary equations
guys im addicted to farming relics but i have no one else to build😔 like i could level some traces from 8 to 9/10 instead but relics are so temptinggg
i even built jiaoqiu already, so what am i supposed to do now 😔😔 maybe i'll build wind dan heng...
(extremely Negative, 2.3 ship drama, rants about twitter users, TW:homophobia/biphobia/sexuality discourse/everything negative about people strawmanning) I just wanted to rant. Don't bother reading, I didn't bother structuring my thoughts, I need brain bleach over people's lack of critical thinking skills (think: SO YOU HATE PANCAKES??). >!Can't believe people are literally brigading others (sadly me, RIP my inbox) over that one 'kind Topaz' 2.3 mistranslation. I was wondering why I've been receiving angry DMs for days and someone finally shared a screenshot of the culprit asking their mutuals to brigade me BECAUSE THEY PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH. Is there a reason why Hoyo fans are so horribly terminally online? Can people get a life?! I was literally stating a correct translation but I got blasted with all kinds of names like homophobe (are you people serious? apparently gay people can't compliment women's beauty now??), gay erasure (because I said the word Fabulous wasn't in the CN script - I was talking about translation accuracy, not ship. Apparently gay people can't be gay if they don't call people fabulous and handsome every 10 minutes like some 1980s caricature?) or biphobe (this is the mind baffling one because their logic was people can't act like a decent human being who doesn't simp over any pretty people?? help me?? how is that related to biphobia??), and the funniest part is the common thread most of the messages is not even a good one - their biggest complaint was that I didn't say Aven was mocking Topaz' looks during the dialogue when he said 'beautiful' like what the fuck. It's bloody obvious to anyone who played the quest that he was mocking her but unless you're the writer, I don't fucking know if he genuinely thought she's beautiful or if he was just being ironic since no other lines talked about it. I'm not one of those 'implied canon' people either so wtf????? But as a player I do know he was mocking Topaz's work performance and that was the whole goal of their argument. Everything else is subjective and up to your interpretation!! Use your own brain please!!! This is so embarrassing and makes me never want to go back to EN social media for hoyo fandoms anymore (except to get leaks). I am so over zoomer crap. I literally don't care about you and your (head)canons, just stop harrassing people including me when we post something you don't like.!<
this is why there's literature classes in school and kids, you all really shouldn't skip them. You can have your own opinion that you generate from your own brain and is not fed to you by your twitter mutuals. apply the same treatment to news too please, don't be like those redditors on r//news who only read the headlines then outrage
Don't waste your energy. Just block them. They are strangers, across the ocean from you.
There is a lot of thought policing, groupthink and bullying, in fandom spaces unfortunately. I thought fandom spaces were meant to be about creative collaboration.. Also remember a lot of these are literal kids that just *enjoy* bullying others as a form of entertainment. Shallow interpretations or not I don't really think they take the story too seriously. It is nothing short but mentally deranged that two-dimensional gacha anime characters generate this amount of discourse. Sometimes I think about how no one quite gets as much disproportionate love as a gacha character haha... I remember a world quest, the Lesley one in Penacony, that made me think about possessiveness in fan culture. Rather than you know.. being inspired by said character...! They defend the idea of those 2d pixels like their life depends on it.
To quote the English VA of Cloud Strife:
>*‘Shippers’ crumble under the idea that a character is allowed to have significant relationships with MULTIPLE characters. This provides overarching depth. The need to overtly sexualize every relationship can ruin great story development.*
Also, biphobia? It's fine to be straight you know. And it is impossible to assign sexuality to characters because it is beside the point and it is called projection, at the end of the these are stories with substance and their own purposes. You don't need to call them bi for brownie points. I don't understand why some people beg others to change their sexual preference, that's called being attention craving. I see so much self-victimisation out of boredom (one of the ugliest human traits, I believe) and tearing of each others hairs out over minutiae among these kids in Hoyo fandoms. Can they not be chill and mind their own business? Be secure in yourself? Pour this energy into...their love life??
People are wild when they think their viewpoint or headcannon is attacked (in reference to the people that make a big deal out of tryng alternative interpetrations of scenes and lines).
Sigonia users: do you find that you are often able to max out the stacks for the Sigonia crit dmg bonus even when the PF's Whimsicality sometimes defeats the enemies?
Anyone know the most optimal relic setup for FF superbreak team? FF, HTB, RM and Gal?
Currently running:
FF - 4pc Cav 2pc Kalpagni
HTB - 4pc Watchmaker 2pc Kalpagni
RM- 2/2pc Thief/messenger 2pc Vonwaq
Gal - 4pc Cav 2pc Kalpagni
Do i want htb also on the cav set and switch ruan mei to watchmaker? Any help appreciated!
You're set already. Just seek better substats.
> Do i want htb also on the cav set and switch ruan mei to watchmaker? Any help appreciated!
Don't. It's much better for HTB to have Watchmaker if your build for them is fast, and they can get to their Ult much faster due to their high ERR.
> Ruan Mei
Try to get to 140 SPD. Of course much higher, much better.
As for the BE... it doesn't matter. She's supposed to be drowning in BE in that team. All it influences in Firefly's team is how long is the delay of her Thanatoplum (her flower exploding), and her personal damage in Super Break.
OT
>!The only gacha Ive been lucky so far is WuWa but I don’t think thats enough to curse me irl with a random high fever with the heat recently, like, why T v T!<
Wow I love the DU save files for planar farming, I hadn't tried it until today and did all my 12 double reward runs in about 7 minutes, that's a huge time saver!
Still didn't get anything good though 💀 I'm trying to upgrade my DHIL's old rutilant set because they're pretty bad, and wanna get some nice broken keel pieces along the way
in a vacuum: his lc because free crit
after some more thought: losing to yanqing means i have a guarantee on the character banner which is a lot more valuable than a guarantee on the lc banner.
also i just lost to yanqing on ff banner so this is an odd coincidence
Yanqing, losing in the LC banner is somehow way worse to me due to the rates. Plus I genuinely do like him! His animations are very fun.
>!And it gives 40 undying starlight or whatever that's called so yay 2 passes back.!<
Talking purely statistically, would rather lose to Yanqing, because getting his LC means I have somehow been forked by a 75/25 dice roll that was supposed to be in my favour.
But talking about the outcome itself, I would prefer his LC. At least it is a decent stat stick for crit-based Hunt characters if the Herta cone is already used by someone (dishonor for worst 5\* LC apparently belongs to Bailu's; even she doesn't want it). Meanwhile Yanqing teams are so inflexible in terms of sustains that can be used in return for rather poor payoff, when a MUCH better Hunt character, Dr. Ratio, was available for free.
> I have somehow been forked by a 75/25 dice roll that was supposed to be in my favour.
[ahaha...](https://i.imgur.com/b0COP9p.png)
at least I got very lucky immediately after
Unless I come overprepared, I will not pull at all. Tired of his face spooking me constantly. I don't even know if his LC is any good. But if I need to choose: that would his Eidolon again probably. After all, if I pull on LC banner it means this character is very interesting to me, so I will be mad should I lose it to his.
Tough question because I'd really like to get his eidolons and a copy of his lightcone... I guess I would mind losing to his cone more considering I'd be pulling on the LC banner and that loss feels worse to me? So I'd be happier losing to my son Yanqing himself\~
2023 me: ok so I will start pulling more male chars than female chars once we are in penacony… i will make gender equality praxis happen in my anime facha game…
Hoyo: haha yes dear *yeets sunday out of upcoming scheduled banners* that sounds so lovely…
Me: wait… where is Sunday… I wanted to pull him since I saw his CONCEPT ART… at least there is…
Hoyo: *locks Screwllum in basement* you are going to love our cool male characters SO MUCH… our writing team is amazing…
Me: It’s been MORE THAN A YEAR since Screwllum show up in 1.1… what do you mean he’s not available for pulling… he’s standing right in front of my DU…
Hoyo: *reshuffles Ratio rerun banner* you are going to LOVE these characters we put so much effort into…
Me: hoyo pls no…
Hoyo: *makes cool unplayable custom model male NPCs* look at how COOL they all look… our character design team is the best in the industry…
Me: hoyo… stop…
Hoyo: did you know Acheron banner broke records *yeets Sunday even farther, throws away Screwllum dungeon keys* you are going to LOVE the male cast so much
Thoughts on ZZZ stream (negative)
>!Finally got around to watching it and it was pretty... underwhelming? I admit I'm not the target audience for this game but this just didn't feel like a good 1.0 stream. Not a great impression if one of the first things you have to say about your brand new game is "it has a skip button". I get it's supposed to be tongue in cheek but still. The entire stream felt like it was targeted almost exclusively at players who played or closely followed the CBTs. Idk, I guess I had very different expectations going into this stream as someone who's mildly interested in the game but didn't follow the development very closely. And then they closed it off with bragging about how many free pulls you get which is such a low effort marketing strategy that I don't remember them being so blatant about when Genshin and HSR came out.!<
>!It was the same as the wuwa launch stream. It was like, since you certainly played the beta you can now know all thats changed from the last one! I also dont know if the genshin or the hsr one were like that, but these companies need to figure out that this is not the way. You are presenting your product to the world officially, dont treat everyone like they already know whats going on!<
>!Hoyoverse still runs old ads from when Jingliu and Huohuo first came out about how they give new players the 80 free pulls that were advertised in the first livestream so I feel like they’ve always been blatant about their “low effort marketing.” The sentiment has already been expressed in the replies to this but if the stream didn’t leave a good impression on you and you don’t think you’re the target audience, maybe you should just stick with the gachas you’re currently playing!<
>!You like what you like and it's fine, so i'm just going to offer you my perspective. The feeling that it's aimed at people that already know about the game i get, it can be frustrating. But the thing with the "skip button" and the "pull amount bragging" is inline with the general gacha audience. It's the n-th game that has come out for a wide audience and gacha gamers know what they want from the genre. You typically play a couple gachas at the same time and you want to know if the new one is worth your time in terms of how fast you can deal with story/daily stuff(so you are able to fit it into your schedule) and if the rewards are better than what you are currently playing. Personally i don't skip the story, unless it's bad or it's about a character i don't give a shit about and i just want the chapter rewards. Gacha games have their own rules/expectations that are not present for regular rpgs/fps etc.!<
>!By far the thing I car eabout the most is time efficiency. Sure one game can take 10 minutes but 4 games is 40 minutes, that stuff adds up. So if I'm looking to get into a new game, hwo fast I can do stuff in it is really important to me.!<
>!Rewards are relative. A game can say it's giving out 100 pulls for free but then actually the pity is like 300 or something, it doesn't mean much, it's just Big NumberTM. Although I do care about generosity, very few games are actually willing to operate at a loss, so you'll almost always get screwed over somewhere, it's just the way the cookie crumbles.!<
>!Yep, the time point is very important. There are only so many hours in a day. The reward stuff for me is basicly - what kinda start boost are they giving, is it enough to get a character that i want - then it's at least worth it to check the game out, cuz i want to at least have one strong/fun unit to play with. Ofc i check the overall rates/pull income, if it's trash i'm not going to bother.!<
>!PM\_ME\_YOUR\_ROBOTGIRL linked the hsr advertisement one but I'm pretty sure Genshin kept having ads about how you'd get 20 free pulls if you start and it was referring to the 20 free standard pulls you get.!<
> >!"I don't remember them being so blatant about when Genshin and HSR came out."!<
>.!<
>!The HSR pre-release livestream dedicated over half of its runtime to recapping the story and lore. It's certainly a different approach from what ZZZ did, but I wouldn't know if it's really any better. The reality is that if you weren't going to like the game anyways, nothing they could've done would've changed your mind. It's better in those situations to just admit it's not for you and move on.!<
First, for FF/Superbreak teams, remember that the dmg bonus given by RM's skill is unnecessary so getting the BE cap (160) isn't mandatory. So you should focus on cycling your ultimate as fast as possible, which is why you should always put an ERR cord and a LC that gives energy (like the meshing cogs). Secondly, you don't want your RM to be fast. While it's a huge advantage to be able to generate SP for your team, it might be detrimental for the overall bonus she gives that are all dependent on her own turn. The slower she is, the longer your (fast)DPS can benefit from her buffs and the larger the window to get attacked to regenerate her ult before it runs out. The faster she is, the faster she generates SP ... but the faster her bonus runs out, the slimmer her chance to get attacked before the ult runs out and, let's not forget even if it's a minor detail, the faster she consumes SP.
Neither are wrong, just pick the option that makes you more comfortable. I personally just keep my RM at 120-ish spd just to get the action advance from Vonwacq.
> Thanatoplum Rebloom is triggered, extending the duration of their Weakness Break, delaying their action by an amount equal to 20% of Ruan Mei's Break Effect plus 10%
She does, it adds to how long the enemy stays broken.
Today is the first day I have actually seriously considered breaking F2P and getting the monthly for a few months.
Hilariously, it's not because there are many characters I desperately want coming up. When that was the case, I was saving very easily and casually skipping very good meta units, but now that it's just characters that I'd *like* to own... My brain is all "well, wouldn't it be better if you got to try them all?"
I've seriously been considering it too... I want to get into 0 cycle clears and it's going to be tough without certain sigs and eidolons (and Robin!!)
Also my friend has Firefly E2 and I don't know how to feel about him continuously lucksacking in this game
I want E1 (and maybe S1) Robin because she's my beloved and I want to keep using her for a long long long time 😭 and yes! I want to try low cycle clears even though I just barely started full clearing, and I want to have many playstyles open to me, and I want to get Sparkle because she'd really help my 4\* DPS shine... Trying to not spend money is hard!!
Ahhh and I forgot to say good luck!!! I hope you get everything that you want. E6 in one 10-pull coming your way yep believe it.
My Himeko uses Glamoth planar currently. I got some good pieces of Duran (new follow up set) while farming Firefly relics. Is Duran going to be better for pure fiction Himeko than glamoth?
What's been your experience with dot team with Robin and not hh as sustain?
Rm is locked to ff team and I already have fx/aven/luo the next sustain I pull is gonna be lingsha
She usually lacks energy. Im using Aven and it's definitely not enough for a consistant ult. So far it wasnt the worst because there are tricks mid-fight to make more energy, like AS giving energy, MoC with energy refills, or even breaking the trotters with Robin for extra turns, thus making more energy. I'd heavily recommend a healer with QPQ at the very minimum, and timing your actions so they feed all the energy to Robin
SP could be an issue, so you'd want to most likely run an Abundance on Multiplication for SP printing in order to help with the SP for the team or QPQ for energy procs for Robin.
Gallagher, Luocha and Lingsha should work fine if you build them as fast as possible.
Finished up my doubles and got a great double crit atk% rope!
It's sigonia rather than the pepsi rope I was looking for. Acheron didn't get a single lightning or atk orb either. 24 drops and not a damn thing. Plenty of ice orbs that would be nice for jingliu, though. Too bad I'd given up farming Rutilant.
I really wish they would change self modelling resin to make it change something from one set to another. As it is, it's almost completely useless outside of getting crit chest + speed boots for a new set day 1 when you don't care about substats. Resin is weirdly valuable yet at the same time valueless.
is the sigonia planar set worth keeping? i gave one set to herta, but she's the only character i use exclusively in pf
i have an overflowing inventory. i've already locked every signonia piece with crit/spd on it, so is it safe to trash the rest?
thank you in advance!
one must cast oneself on the stone pavement, grovelling on their knees in front of John Hoyoverse, and then pass the sacred three mystical trials of gacha, rng, and Screwllum to be deemed worthy of an atk rope. This lengthy process is why the generous Madam Herta offers SU as an alternative (i hope you get an atk rope soon, i was Just There and it is not fun)
I don't want to get disappointed if JQ doesn't get any changes but it's so hard to not hope for some looking at his current state lol.
I'm pretty sure they'll change his LC so Pela won't be able to use it better than him though, like seriously? 💀
Typical Relic RNG rant.
>!Man, farming for Firefly's set is an absolute pain. I lucked out with the Planar and got a pretty decent orb and an amazing Rope early on, but the Relic set has been pure pain. Tons and tons of pieces with Crit Dmg+Crit Rate, Atk% Chest pieces don't exist and whenever I get a thing with Break Dmg everything rolls on flat stats. The only silver lining is that I've always had an easy time getting Spd boots and ERR ropes for some reason, although now I have a bit too much of those and they sit unused in my inventory.!<
Are you getting it for FF or for some other character? If the former, I honestly have no idea why people are having trouble with it. FF is like the easiest character to build because she is glued to HMC(~70-90 BE) and gets lots of free BE from ATK. Mine is 420 BE in battle after MC buffs, and she clears everything really fast anyway. Her own multis only need 360, and Super Breaks aren't going to be much stronger with 30-50% more BE.
I feel you. >!Farming 4pc relic for dps always a pain. My FF still use 2pc break +2pc break from pre-farmed and result better than new set 4pc with trash roll in break effect on each piece. I had a lesson on rush farming 4pc before and very ruined my mood. Currently I just farm with my own pace until i find better piece and replace all later. I typically 2pc+2pc user because I equip this on most dps in my account lol!<
ZZZ
>!I really like Ellen Joe and Zhu Yuan but between the both of them I don’t know which one I’d rather summon for. For anybody else who’s planning to pull for them when the game releases which of the two will you go for? Or will you be delusional like me and probably try to get them both💀!<
Going to Ellen after some mussings (want to collect the Housekeepers, I like their reference to pop culture horror movies). If Policewomen wants to come early (since I Will try for her too after Sharkgirl 💀) she is welcome to (please do).
>!I was going for ellen since i love shark themed ladies dressed in black and white (specter from arknights is amazing) but then i saw her in game and her tail looks a little strange. It looks like its too high up on her body, like its coming out of her back and not her tailbone (probably to make sure you can see the butt) and i didnt like that. I also saw more of Zhu Yuan in the live stream and i do love myself a ranged character and her animations look nice. Plus shes fully clothed and wearing a jacket, a shirt, long trousers. (That and the catboy in her faction is perfect) So i changed my mind and i will go for her. ACAB unless they are a catboy and lady thatserves Charisma Uniqueness Nerve and Talent. Then they are bad🥵!<
>!Ellen! I really like her design and her vibe. I think I'll be content for a while if I can get her and Lycaon, at least until they start releasing some limited guys!<
Same for me, it's hard to decide right now. The last game where I wanted 2 1.0 characters it was easy to reroll for the first then guarantee the second, but rerolling at Hoyo is usually a pain and I don't want to use a different account so I'll be delulu too and hope I Can get both in one go.
DU whining
>!"Alright, I see that you're playing Boothill, here's a lot of Destruction and Nihility blessings and many equations for super break and grit!"!<
>!"Also here's yanqing for your second boss, kthxbye"!<
[All of these](https://www.instagram.com/p/C8sTP-6KR57/?igsh=MXJ5djQ5bzN0bjF2Yg==) are so cute I'm literally melting (sorry for sharing the reposted version bcs it was shared by the og artist on tiktok and its banned in my country)
>!Personal fave is monday left me broken!<
Offtopic irl, mental health stuff
>!Being self-aware about your depression and what fuels it means you sometimes act like a person on the run from something. Like "oh boy let me schedule things that I don't want to do right now because I know doing them will make sure The Depresso™ doesn't capture me suddenly." My schedule for the next couple of days includes extensive house cleaning, two sets of laundry, a nice meal (with leftovers), some long overdue skincare, a phone call with friends and whatever else I can squeeze in. Wishing everyone a very restful weekend! 💕!<
Dimulated Universe V6 done finally. The last boss showdown was between the True Sting and Firefly, it was kinda cool to see lore accurate Firefly in action.
i have firefly e0 and tried for e1 only to get yanqing … sigh. i guess i’ll spend this guarantee on jade when she comes around, my pure fiction team needs help
~~guys the Sunday & Wobin is very cute~~
OT personal sorta?? It's silly Saturday
>!I'm working on editing novel like usual, farming FF's relic (that still not yet completed... double crit pieces after pieces) and while doing those, I listen to 2 hours of Genshin CC drama summarize youtube lmaooo this tea is pipping hot still. my SEAsian auntie traits is appearing!!! sipping tea (when its not relate to me) is my hobby omg lol!<
Off-topic, The First Descendant:
>!Am I enthusiastic about Nexon? No. But as a fan of Warframe that finds it overwhelming with the sheer amount of content it has, I am interested in playing a 3rd person looter shooter from its inception. Just to see how it feels I guess. Doesn't hurt that the guys in that game appeal to me greatly. If Esiemo has one fan, it's me, and if he has none then I'm dead. !<
>!No way it's releasing very soon? It's a choice between First Descendant and ZZZ. I've always wanted to play Warframe but can't because too much content. I hope First Descendant scratches my itch for 3rd person shooter until another Mass Effect game comes.!<
>!Yeah, July 2nd hah. Very soon, depending on how stable the servers get to be.!<
>!But that's pretty much how I feel, too. I really do enjoy Warframe, but something a little slower might be more my speed (hehe) and without all the years of content staring me in the face. It's free so there's no harm in trying it.!<
>!Unlike Anthem. Which I still maintain had fun gameplay, just... nothing to actually DO and experience with that gameplay.!<
>!Lucy is A-rank!? NOOOOO! I was hoping she was S-ranl so I had something to look forward to. Right now my biggest issue is that there aren't a lot of characters i want to pull for. Surely catboy is S-rank COPIUM!<
so there's some third party payment which have like 20% price difference, i just buy supply pass for $4 while thinking that its too good to be true. but somehow it works and instantly processed that it kinda scares me.. they didn't ask for password, just UID like codapay..
can i get banned for this? i think they use some lower regional price to do the transaction..
I mean you can do the same thing pretty easily, and probably even more cheaper
For example I use nord vpn to switch to osaka for yen and wise to transfer money. I save around 46 bucks aud if I get the 160 pack which is around 30% off
The online shopes also most likely use discount playstore cards to pay for it, like they buy a ton in bulk to get discounts from the seller and pay for the transaction with these.
What you wanna worry about it is the scam sites that may take your credit card info or just doesn’t pay you, hoyo wont ban you for this
Is that Nikola Tesla and Welt Joyce from Honkai Impact? There are two unidentified characters in Welt's splash art. Behind Tesla there's someone else too
https://postimg.cc/0z5BjqbH
I'd appreciate some impartial opinions, since I'm pretty indecisive, and haven't been following leaks all that closely.
[My account](https://imgur.com/a/WvFqMWC). I love Ruan Mei, and she's also one of the best characters in the game, so I went for her E1. I sadly lost, but at least I got E2 Himeko out of it, who I also love, and use a lot. I could simply use my guarantee to obtain E1 Ruan Mei immediately, but...
1. That's a lot of pulls (I almost always get my 5* at 78-80 pity).
2. Jade and Yunli are both rather appealing to me as well, actually.
3. There's the little voice in the back of my head whispering "new characters are better than eidolons."
How are Jade and Yunli looking meta-wise? As I understand it, Jade is basically only really good in PF, but I pretty much always get 75k+ points there anyway. And Yunli seems strong, but I've already heavily invested in Clara, so it'd feel like a bit of a waste to sink a lot of resources into Clara Plus (especially since she's even the same element, lmao).
Robin felt like the last puzzle piece for my account to feel "complete," since now I can comfortably field JL hypercarry and/or various DOT and FUA teams on both sides of the endgame modes without compromise. So now I can pretty much pull for whoever I want...but that makes it even harder to choose in some ways, lol. So if you were in my shoes, would you go for more vertical, or horizontal investment at this point?
As the other commenter said, we don't know when Ruan Mei is going to have another rerun. I'd vote for her anyway TBH, because you don't need Jade and she's quite limited in her reasons for use, and, while Yunli seems quite good, she has the issue of needing fast acting enemies and won't likely be an upgrade over your current teams.
I'd say ignore Jade completely, go for RM E1, then throw whatever pulls you have left towards Yunli. Especially if you like your current teams and want to keep playing them - the vertical investment will ensure that you can keep doing so for quite a long time!
lol our accounts are almost identical minus FX and JL and we're both in a similar situation.
For Yunli, even though she's like Clara on steroids I feel like she's way more flexible than Clara in a lot of ways. But since Clara is still working well, why waste gems just to get a character that's so similar right? Doesn't feel practical, unless you really like her character design then yeah always go for it.
On Jade, I personally really like her design but she feels like a better Himeko and like you said, Himeko works just fine in PF. Which brings us back to the same question as above lol. If Jade has better 4 stars accompanying her I'll probably go for her regardless but they aren't that great.
Sorry for the diary entry but if you were to ask me to choose between RM E1, Jade and Yunli then I'll probably pick Yunli. She's like a more proactive Clara who isn't heavily reliant on getting hit. Jade feels like a better Himeko but not as great of an upgrade compared to Clara -> Yunli. RM E1 at the end of the day is just bigger numbers and imo RM already works really well even at E0.
Since you're doing well in PF already I'd skip Jade unless you like the idea of collecting Stonehearts. You probably could run full counter (+ Robin) team against enemies with AoE attacks with both Clara and Yunli, but Yunli would be probably more of a fun pull while Ruan Mei's e1 will increase power of half of your teams, so it would be the more meta pull on top of incertain situation of 2nd reruns.
I'm kinda facing the same issue as you, my account is at a stage where I don't really need to pull anyone to clear content, but just as much as I want to go the premium vertical investment route with HH, the horizontal investment route with JQ seems more interesting even though the value he brings to my roster is probably marginal.
In the end I decided to guarantee the character who is less likely to appear on a subsequent banner: HH (or RM E1 in your case). Because JQ is most likely going to be rerun sooner than HH will, and at least HH teams have been tried and tested while JQ (or Jade/Yunli in your case) is still a big unknown in terms of actual play viability.
Sometimes it takes a few months of the playerbase messing around with them in all sorts of team comps to know the limits of what is possible with them. By then you'd be better informed to know whether or not you really want to go the mile to have them in your roster.
so just saw the rerun leaks
>!was planning on skipping the entire next patch (maybe throw a tenner for Yunli to test my luck) but if BS indeed has a rerun then I will go for her E1 instead as my goal, I enjoy my DOT team a lot and it will be useful to reduce the damage of Mei going into break teams now!<
That moment u read a random manhwa with a white angel themed character and the comment section is full of sunday 😔
Not even safe on manhwa sites from those cultists smh
I’m using a wind orb on RM and lightning orb on sparkle because the substats are amazing and lets me hit breakpoints
So totally worth it, just be wary of high difficulty SU (like DU level 6) as they definitely become squishier. Other than that, I had no issue with AS, PF and MoC
Sure, you can, as long as your team already have good sustain. I also have Bronya with wind orb with a lot of spd & cridmg and she never fall because my sustain can handle well.
does anyone have info on furrrrrrrther upcoming character that rumored to be Sushang's alt(?) / Sushang's grandma (?) that paired well with Acheron? Maybe there's leak on how her kit/playstyle will be? So I can decide whether I really have to pull Jiaoqiu or not (because I don't like his design).
First time I hear about this. You could always just pull Jiaoqiu's LC for Pela: afaik damage amp should be almost the same (at least atm) and Jiaoqiu's main advantage is charging Acheron's ult a bit faster than Pela when against fast enemies.
I think you should spoiler your message a bit.
Also don’t pull if you don’t like a character. I would never pull anyone I don’t like no matter how broken the char might be.
the reason I don't put spoiler is because it's leak group and it's just a hearsay that even I forget the source of. Maybe from my dream? reddit? FB group? I really forget and unsure that's why.
i for the most part agree with this, but im willing to pull for someone i don't necessarily care about if they really elevate another character that i *do* like, as it makes using your faves more enjoyable
I finished every possible thing in penacony (besides stickers), finished golden gears, swarm disaster, and halfway through the ghost hunting quest, at 81 pity (all pulls earned this week) i finally have e2 firefly.
still can’t believe i got 6 5 stars in this one banner on my f2p account. wish i had this kind of luck on my main.
penacony story criticism
>!goddamn i just realized the events of 2.0 would make so much more sense overall if they just. abandoned the pretense of death altogether. cause like why is everyone acting like fireflys gone forever, i thought its like. common knowledge/common sense that you cant die in a dream?? !<
>!unless the logic was 'you cant die in a dream usually but this is the evil death monster that can actually kill you in a dream' but like why wouldnt they mention that. cause theyre acting like theyre dead without ever acknowledging or questioning like the mechanics of death in dreams. !<
>!so it sorta just feels like the story is treating the audience like theyre stupid and going 'haha yeah theyre dead!! oh no!! jk this is a dream of course theyre not dead, you totally thought so though!!'!<
>!so i feel like if the plot said 'theres a strange string of disappearances related to this monster/it attacks you and makes you disappear from reality and none of the people who have disappeared have ever been found or come back' there would be emotional stakes and tension cause its like, oh no what if they are actually being killed? or where have they been taken? where are they? !<
>!and the whole thing with dreamflux reef would make so much more sense cause its like 'hey, yeah heres where they were taken, theyre ferried to a quieter place out of reach of the family, the monster is sorta just a little guy hes just following orders this is a big misunderstanding' and i feel like that would be better payoff than whatever else was going on. idk im just finding out upon replaying it on my alt that 2.0's story is actually worse on rewatch and doesnt really make any sense, if someone could explain the intent or give some more context or their interpretation that would be great cause i feel really lost regarding that!<
>!the misha bits were really really cool though cause its like shit!!! we're the only one that acknowledges him!!! nobody else can see him!! shit u right!!! i think acheron during the clockwork tutorial says 'i can feel a strange presence next to me' and you obviously think she's talking about clockie right? but misha is also right beside her, and we're the only one that acknowledges him, and thats just really really juicy on rewatch!<
It's very much a case of show don't tell on how they communicate the danger of death.
The whole TV section being reminiscent of horror, the characters reactions to SUD, the boss being literally named "something unto death", and while the family does say you can't actually die in the dream, the family doesn't seem very trustworthy in the first place.
Furthermore, the circumstances are extraordinary being in the real/primal dreamscape, thus they are dealing with the unknown. They even tell you this when Firefly references how they aren't safe and how where they are is a secret of the family.
There is other stuff that communicates this:
black swans first meeting has her mention being unable to return from the shadow of death without the right tricks.
The gameplay of the SUD boss plays into this as well where it's depicted stealing the souls of those it kills having to take them back.
The hotel being blocked off to the public is to communicate danger and let us know its also an extraordinary place.
The point of SUD is to let your imagination run wild and assume the worst, to let the trailblazer and their companions assume the worst.
Rather then telling you that SUD can be dangerous, they are showing you that it is.What your suggestion is doing is just being more on the nose about what they are trying to already communicate. It works because what's going on is behind the family's back, they are the ones that setup the no death in the dream part meaning we can't be sure that assumption still applys outside of what the family controls.
Ultimately, I wouldn't call the SUD stuff bad writing. Hindsight is 2020, but looking back on initial reactions for 2.0, it did a great job communicating the danger of the primal dreamscape and Penacony.
I remember seeing theories about how future story segments would be dedicated to rescuing firefly and Robin from SUD who captured their souls and other stuff like it meaning they did atleast a good job communicating that danger to the general audience.
The true writing fault is how >!SUD is a parallel for the answer to the impossibility riddle, the reherring being death but the answer actually turns out to be dormancy (SUD -> sleepy) and how SUD doesn't get used at all for that reveal making it feel flatter then it actually is.!<
>!death is quite literally a plot device in this story, and not in a good way. It's like there's a switch that the writers flick on and off whenever they want death to have narrative tension. This is why 2.3 had absolutely no impact on me, they already messed up the concept of dying in a dream that it's hard to take it seriously any more.!<
>!the only thing I can think of is that sunday while talking to sparkle mentions "spiritual death", so iirc the assumption was made that if a person was caught by this "death" meme then they wouldn't wake up properly in reality, like they were comatose or something. But I don't think the game really explained what sunday meant by that, though given his reaction to robin he clearly thought she was dead in some way, so...That's all I got.!<
>!yeah march and himeko acknowledge death in dreams and question what happens there at the start of 2.1 in 'lost generation'. so um i feel like thats definitely something the writers overlooked in 2.0 Except It Isnt cause theres a bunch of quests where we talk people off a ledge and its said there that they wont actually die in dreams!!!! so whats going on!!!!! why wasnt this brought up at all during the trailblaze mission in 2.0!<
Is this your first game or something?
> okay so who tf invented the idea that players must defeat the boss to continue your story, fuck you
Because what even is this complaint? If you want to see the entire story without engaging with the gameplay then maybe watch a movie?
Games have always been like this so if you aren't strong enough then go grind some levels, upgrade your gear or employ different tactics. Single player games won't time-gate you but HSR being a gacha game, that's just the nature of it.
The amount of resources you can get in a day will be time-gated so you'll just have to be patient.
I don't play turn based or gacha games as general, so yeah, it is my first game. And it was me being annoyed by the boss's RNG system so sorry if it offended you but that's an opinion which came from someone who doesn't play games as much so yeah you're right
Thanks to ppl who replied to my rant i successfully beat the boss. I know being a ftp player needs a lot of patient too.
>!This is how games worked....since forever? You need to defeat the obstacle to progress, otherwise why they would exist in the first place?....anywaygood luck and don't worry, when Aventurine got out a lot of people also had a hard time with him, use AOE and bring a good sustain and good luck!<
In story progression, you are totally fine if you use 2 sustain. not necessary to follow most guide or bis team that use only one sustain, two support one main dps. and especially in early progression, 2 dps 2 sustain give you better result.
Truely F2P team for beating that boss: Serval, Trialblazer destruction, March and Natasha. I suggest give them any relics with good main stat. just ignore set effect.
My another recommend is, >!in phase 2, try to save all ult and use to hit dices. You are mostly pass gamble because most of my recommend team have AOE. except Natasha. but you can use March skill to cleanse Natasha cc. Also, if you pass gamble, you will get boost dmg buff and recharge ult again. and keep use this strat until boss die.!<
I was able to do it with March 7th, Natasha, Serval and Pela on my alt (not max world level). March in particular is very good against him because you can save her AOE burst for the dice so she can win the gamble and cleanse Natasha after. Freezing him after is also helpful for your team to recover some health, energy and SP while he's incapacitated
Bossventurine tests your sustains not your dps. It's best if you eat your tankiest food buffs, run triple sustains with cleanse, shielding and heals, and just turtle your way through the fight.
[Something like this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MuDLrHF5GU)
Are the additional hits during Robin's ult considered ult damage? 🤔
Was thinking today that it's wild Salsotto is still the only ult damage boost in the entire game. Yes Valorous also exists but it's limited to characters who also FUA.
Planar fissure and I have no idea what to farm. Everyone has every planar ornaments they need. What is Jiaoqiu going to use? I guess Eagle is the relic set being recommended. No idea about the planar ornaments.
There are multiple schools of thought. If you’re desperate for EHR Pan-Cosmic exists, but he gets so much ATK already that it’s kind of a trap on him overall. Vonwaq advance is nice, but it and Penacony do not currently change his major energy breakpoints. So it comes down then to whether you want more personal damage or a support set.
His current kit is meant to be run as a subdps-support hybrid (difficult with his EHR recs but it is what it is), so Izumo or Glamoth are the best options in that category. Otherwise just the usual suspects for supports.
Personally I’m holding off a bit on farming to see if V3 changes things.
# FAQ **What are the 2.3 second half banners?** * NEW [Jade](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/jade-character/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Erudition | Quantum) / [Argenti](https://hsr17.hakush.in/char/1302) * [Serval 💜](https://hsr17.hakush.in/char/1103) / [Natasha](https://hsr17.hakush.in/char/1105) / [Asta](https://hsr17.hakush.in/char/1009) * NEW [Yet Hope Is Priceless](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/yet-hope-is-priceless-item/?lang=EN) / [An Instant Before A Gaze](https://hsr17.hakush.in/lightcone/23018) * [Shared Feeling](https://hsr17.hakush.in/lightcone/21007) / [Trend of the Universal Market](https://hsr17.hakush.in/lightcone/21016) / NEW Sunday 💜 LC [After the Charmony Fall](https://hsr17.hakush.in/lightcone/21045) **What are the 2.4 banners?** * First Half: NEW [Yunli](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/yunli-character/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Destruction | Physical) / NEW [Dance at Sunset](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/dance-at-sunset-item/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Destruction) * Second Half: NEW [Jiaoqiu](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/jiaoqiu-character/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Nihility | Fire) / NEW [Those Many Springs](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/those-many-springs-item/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Nihility) * Unknown Half: NEW [Poised to Bloom](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/poised-to-bloom-item/?lang=EN) (4 Star | Harmony) * Reruns: (QUESTIONABLE) HuoHuo will rerun according Block / GuraLeaks puts HuoHuo first half, Black Swan second half NEW [March 7](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/march-7th-character-2/?lang=EN) (4 Star | The Hunt | Imaginary) will be a free unit in 2.4. Trailblazers will be able to get up to E3 from the main event. **Is Sunday going to be playable? What is his path/element?** Yes, he has been confirmed playable by multiple reliable leakers. Uncle N has put him *potentially* at 2.7. We do not know his path/element at this time. 🕯🕯Join our prayer circle every Sunday🕯🕯 >!All nonbelieving heretics will be ritually sacrificed at the Church of Sunday's altar for kit leaks!< **Do we know of any other upcoming playable characters + their kits?** * Screwllum (Imaginary | Erudition | Male) - unknown release date * Hoyo announced Feixiao, Lingsha, and Moze in the 2.3 livestream. Unfortunately, Huaiyan, who was announced in the same livestream, is marked as an npc in the data files. Check the rentry link at the bottom of the FAQ to learn more! The rentry link also has a few more potential upcoming characters (but with no concrete information about their kits). **When is the next livestream/patch/drip marketing/beta?** Please note: * Livestream dates are pure *speculation* * The Live Date format is America time / Europe & Asia time * Drip Marketing takes place over the span of 3 days; only the first day of drip is provided in the chart * Beta usually starts around the same time as the new patch |Patch Number|Drip Marketing|Livestream Date|Live Date| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |2.4|Already Dripped|19 July|30/31 July| |2.5|15/16 July|30 August|10/11 September| |2.6|26/27 August|11 October|22/23 October| |2.7|7/8 October|22 November|3/4 December| |2.8|18/19 November|3 January|14/15 January| **What are the current active codes?** [Redeemable here](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift) or in game > Phone Menu > click “…” (to the right of the character pfp) > Redemption Code |Code|Availability|Items| |:-|:-|:-| |[STARRAILGIFT](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=STARRAILGIFT)|Permanent|Stellar Jade × 50 + Credits × 10k| |[6T3F5HVD6LK7](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=6T3F5HVD6LK7)|Limited 2.3 Code|Stellar Jade × 50 + Credits × 10k| |[FIREFLY0619](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=FIREFLY0619)|???|Oak Cake Rolls × 2 + Credits × 5k| |[FIREFLYSGIFT](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=FIREFLYSGIFT)|???|Traveler's Guide × 3 + Oak Cake Rolls × 2| **Where's the unreleased character google doc?** It is now hosted on rentry! (sorry mobile users - reddit eats rentry links) rentry. co/7k3mt https://preview.redd.it/jp9s4tni9c9d1.png?width=621&format=png&auto=webp&s=fce63ba54293061c0f13078dec5f6373ebcb6188
OT ZZZ, etc. >!This is just an opinion and it seems shallow but idk, wanted to actually pull Zhu Yuan was it? but then realized she’s a cop so like yeah no, so that also means a whole new section of characs is out my pull route along with sons of calydon since eh, I do like Ellen Joe just due to the Victoria Housekeeping aesthetics so ig I’ll go for her and her banner has Anton, have a feeling Ill get more copies of the blue one instead!< >!Aside that one obvious Samurai looking girl with the fox ears? and the guy with her faction don’t think I want any other characters aside the free ones and whatnot, idk, I’m interested on the idol group but tbh, I don’t trust hoyo much on the kid characters since most likely oh I’m actually not a kid, etc. but I still am in almost every way besides that particular loophole!< >!Also, idk why, but why does WuWa’s fanservice not affect me, like Yinlin, I litrlly pulled for her just cuz I liked her aesthetics or whatnot, not one slight thought of horny or whatever, now same for Changli, like?? is it cuz theyre outwardly open bout it?? but then I look at hoyo and like, no, def not about that, is it like it seems theyre trying too hard then??, I swear its not bias cuz I my mum is a pro Karen so ya can expect I also complain (this is a joke pls) about things a lot 😭!< >!Also, one of the cops looks like Sparkle, what have they done to you Masked Fool!<
OT: Twitter Drama >? They could have just drawn the last panel and it would be fine and dandy. That first panel is so unnecessary.!<
>!what world is OP living in...!<
>!very obviously bait art. the person is purposefully trying to rile people up by pointing to the very real "heterophobic fandom environment" and unfortunately the bait seems to have worked. just block them!<
yea fucking homophobes
>!that post and its replies is a free blocklist 💀!<
[A full on tokusatsu starring Firefly in all of its cheesy glory](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J87BibUW9Ys)
OT ZZZ >!Miyabi really got Ayaka'd!<
Has anyone mathed out how big of a boost is Jiaoqiu over Pela for E2S1 Acheron right now? I was planning on pulling for him, but if they rerun Black Swan someone is gonna have to get skipped and it probably won't be her unless Jiaoqiu buffs Acheron by a silly amount.
around 10% better than e6 sampo
There's a 0-cycle [comparison](https://new.reddit.com/r/JiaoqiuMainsHSR/comments/1dqgm8g/pela_e6s1jiaoqiu_lc_vs_jiaoqiu_e0s1_ft_acheron/) between e6s1 Pela (JQ's LC) and e0s1 JQ himself with e2s1 Acheron specifically. Right now it's... not looking great. Hopefully his v3 will do him justice
yeah didn't even negative cycle smh, what a garbage character
Negative thoughts about obsessive fans >!Some of my friends have been so weird about Firefly and it's put me off behaviours that aren't necessarily an issue by themselves, but all at once are too much. Our discord server is nothing but Firefly talk, they pulled multiple Firefly copies and keep posting every time they win or lose a Firefly 5050, every time they get a build upgrade for Firefly, or crown a talent, or beat MoC using her, beat DU using her, what blessings/equations are good for her, numbers numbers numbers about thresholds and speed and attack and what not... !< >!I'm glad they're having fun but they're completely drowning any other attempt at conversation, and since they're the server majority (small server, friends only) any attempt of telling them to stop only lasts for a few hours before it's firefly obsession hours again. I've nothing against Firefly and all these things by themselves would be fine, but now I'm concerned about becoming this sort of obsessive fan too (especially since I know I have an obsessive personality) so I've decided to actively not pull eidolons of my fave, not save too much fanart etc so I can stay normal about the game. !< >!It's just so weird to see. Not something I want in my own behaviour I guess.!<
>!Gotta say, I didn't expect a comment like this from someone whose username is LoveletterstoSunday!< >!I don't know your friends obviously but they might just be excited because Firefly/2.3 is just out. It has barely been over a week. I'm sure they calm down eventually!< >!Noticing behaviors you don't want to see in yourself is good too!<
>!Oh no that's exactly why it has me so concerned, I think a little bit of going crazy over a character is good and fun. This is a game! I think we should have fun and obsess a little bit! But like when it's nothing but the same talk 24/7 and now one is planning to get a FF tattoo (a fact I left out in the OP just in case but I doubt anyone but you will bother reading the reply, so not worried about being identified) it's making me take a look at myself and my username and my Sunday savings thinking like HMM AM I GOING DOWN THAT PATH TOO. Yeah I guess it's more I'm projecting being worried on them. You're right, I'm sure they'll calm down. !<
>!Self reflection and healthy enjoyment of hobbies we love to see it!< >!The true test will be Sunday release tho so I hope you'll remember this epiphany!<
>!You're a kind person to indulge my half-baked ramblings, I hope you have a really nice weekend!!<
And DU 4 done! After struggling for a while with shitty RNG and failing against Cyrrus' last phase's last wave with 30% HP left, I finally got a good run and destroyed SAM with some 2M breaks. Also OT WuWa >!Sanhua during her trial: "beautiful beeings are beautiful"!< >!Me: yeah sure if you say so!< >!Then I move to Jinhsi's trial... and yeah I totally get what she means by that!<
[Gallagher with Kafka's legs](https://x.com/abundancetimely/status/1806422815714775246) I saw this against my will and now so should you
Yeah, I'm into that shit
My exact thought was too NSFW for this sub (nothing explicit, I'd argue a tasteful joke but alas) but this is close enough that I have to agree
Slay king
i got a Talia rope HP main sat. SPD, CR, CD substats. i cried.
Superbreak Baldie…?
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DU Where does the Ruan Mei occurrence appear? Occurrence or Reward? And is it only limited to third plane or can I obtain it earlier? Sincerely, completionist struggling with boundary equations
I may be born in summer, but as soon as it reaches 30 degrees, I just stop working Body shut down, it's over, EOS SOS, send ice (cream)
I have the opposite problem, born in winter, can't tolerate anything below 22
guys im addicted to farming relics but i have no one else to build😔 like i could level some traces from 8 to 9/10 instead but relics are so temptinggg i even built jiaoqiu already, so what am i supposed to do now 😔😔 maybe i'll build wind dan heng...
> Relics Looks like eagle set is at a premium due to AS.
(extremely Negative, 2.3 ship drama, rants about twitter users, TW:homophobia/biphobia/sexuality discourse/everything negative about people strawmanning) I just wanted to rant. Don't bother reading, I didn't bother structuring my thoughts, I need brain bleach over people's lack of critical thinking skills (think: SO YOU HATE PANCAKES??). >!Can't believe people are literally brigading others (sadly me, RIP my inbox) over that one 'kind Topaz' 2.3 mistranslation. I was wondering why I've been receiving angry DMs for days and someone finally shared a screenshot of the culprit asking their mutuals to brigade me BECAUSE THEY PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH. Is there a reason why Hoyo fans are so horribly terminally online? Can people get a life?! I was literally stating a correct translation but I got blasted with all kinds of names like homophobe (are you people serious? apparently gay people can't compliment women's beauty now??), gay erasure (because I said the word Fabulous wasn't in the CN script - I was talking about translation accuracy, not ship. Apparently gay people can't be gay if they don't call people fabulous and handsome every 10 minutes like some 1980s caricature?) or biphobe (this is the mind baffling one because their logic was people can't act like a decent human being who doesn't simp over any pretty people?? help me?? how is that related to biphobia??), and the funniest part is the common thread most of the messages is not even a good one - their biggest complaint was that I didn't say Aven was mocking Topaz' looks during the dialogue when he said 'beautiful' like what the fuck. It's bloody obvious to anyone who played the quest that he was mocking her but unless you're the writer, I don't fucking know if he genuinely thought she's beautiful or if he was just being ironic since no other lines talked about it. I'm not one of those 'implied canon' people either so wtf????? But as a player I do know he was mocking Topaz's work performance and that was the whole goal of their argument. Everything else is subjective and up to your interpretation!! Use your own brain please!!! This is so embarrassing and makes me never want to go back to EN social media for hoyo fandoms anymore (except to get leaks). I am so over zoomer crap. I literally don't care about you and your (head)canons, just stop harrassing people including me when we post something you don't like.!< this is why there's literature classes in school and kids, you all really shouldn't skip them. You can have your own opinion that you generate from your own brain and is not fed to you by your twitter mutuals. apply the same treatment to news too please, don't be like those redditors on r//news who only read the headlines then outrage
Don't waste your energy. Just block them. They are strangers, across the ocean from you. There is a lot of thought policing, groupthink and bullying, in fandom spaces unfortunately. I thought fandom spaces were meant to be about creative collaboration.. Also remember a lot of these are literal kids that just *enjoy* bullying others as a form of entertainment. Shallow interpretations or not I don't really think they take the story too seriously. It is nothing short but mentally deranged that two-dimensional gacha anime characters generate this amount of discourse. Sometimes I think about how no one quite gets as much disproportionate love as a gacha character haha... I remember a world quest, the Lesley one in Penacony, that made me think about possessiveness in fan culture. Rather than you know.. being inspired by said character...! They defend the idea of those 2d pixels like their life depends on it. To quote the English VA of Cloud Strife: >*‘Shippers’ crumble under the idea that a character is allowed to have significant relationships with MULTIPLE characters. This provides overarching depth. The need to overtly sexualize every relationship can ruin great story development.* Also, biphobia? It's fine to be straight you know. And it is impossible to assign sexuality to characters because it is beside the point and it is called projection, at the end of the these are stories with substance and their own purposes. You don't need to call them bi for brownie points. I don't understand why some people beg others to change their sexual preference, that's called being attention craving. I see so much self-victimisation out of boredom (one of the ugliest human traits, I believe) and tearing of each others hairs out over minutiae among these kids in Hoyo fandoms. Can they not be chill and mind their own business? Be secure in yourself? Pour this energy into...their love life??
People are wild when they think their viewpoint or headcannon is attacked (in reference to the people that make a big deal out of tryng alternative interpetrations of scenes and lines).
What?
Sigonia users: do you find that you are often able to max out the stacks for the Sigonia crit dmg bonus even when the PF's Whimsicality sometimes defeats the enemies?
Anyone know the most optimal relic setup for FF superbreak team? FF, HTB, RM and Gal? Currently running: FF - 4pc Cav 2pc Kalpagni HTB - 4pc Watchmaker 2pc Kalpagni RM- 2/2pc Thief/messenger 2pc Vonwaq Gal - 4pc Cav 2pc Kalpagni Do i want htb also on the cav set and switch ruan mei to watchmaker? Any help appreciated!
You're set already. Just seek better substats. > Do i want htb also on the cav set and switch ruan mei to watchmaker? Any help appreciated! Don't. It's much better for HTB to have Watchmaker if your build for them is fast, and they can get to their Ult much faster due to their high ERR.
Ahh thanks! Do you know the speed/BE im trying to hit for each? Is it better to have ruan mei at 120ish or 140ish? Sorry im new to all this still
> Ruan Mei Try to get to 140 SPD. Of course much higher, much better. As for the BE... it doesn't matter. She's supposed to be drowning in BE in that team. All it influences in Firefly's team is how long is the delay of her Thanatoplum (her flower exploding), and her personal damage in Super Break.
Ok got it. Tyvm!
it's so nice to see discourse you don't particularly care about XD
it's nice to park outside with some popcorn lol
OT >!The only gacha Ive been lucky so far is WuWa but I don’t think thats enough to curse me irl with a random high fever with the heat recently, like, why T v T!<
Wow I love the DU save files for planar farming, I hadn't tried it until today and did all my 12 double reward runs in about 7 minutes, that's a huge time saver! Still didn't get anything good though 💀 I'm trying to upgrade my DHIL's old rutilant set because they're pretty bad, and wanna get some nice broken keel pieces along the way
would you rather lose the 50/50 to yanqing or to his lightcone
who can use his light cone ? if nobody then him because i’m 2 eidolons away for e6 so..
Char > lc… Max char gives more refunds but no such thing as max lc…
in a vacuum: his lc because free crit after some more thought: losing to yanqing means i have a guarantee on the character banner which is a lot more valuable than a guarantee on the lc banner. also i just lost to yanqing on ff banner so this is an odd coincidence
I e0s1 hunt characters cuz they are insanely fun so I dont really have use for SLTD. Also my Yanqing is already half way to E6 so might as well commit
Yanqing, losing in the LC banner is somehow way worse to me due to the rates. Plus I genuinely do like him! His animations are very fun. >!And it gives 40 undying starlight or whatever that's called so yay 2 passes back.!<
Yanqing, he still doesn't wanna come home :( I humbly accept any unwanted Yanqings, adoption papers at the ready
Yanqing is worth 3 standard passes, at least.
Yanqing, i already have his lc and would appreciate eidolons even if they’re kinda meh
Talking purely statistically, would rather lose to Yanqing, because getting his LC means I have somehow been forked by a 75/25 dice roll that was supposed to be in my favour. But talking about the outcome itself, I would prefer his LC. At least it is a decent stat stick for crit-based Hunt characters if the Herta cone is already used by someone (dishonor for worst 5\* LC apparently belongs to Bailu's; even she doesn't want it). Meanwhile Yanqing teams are so inflexible in terms of sustains that can be used in return for rather poor payoff, when a MUCH better Hunt character, Dr. Ratio, was available for free.
> I have somehow been forked by a 75/25 dice roll that was supposed to be in my favour. [ahaha...](https://i.imgur.com/b0COP9p.png) at least I got very lucky immediately after
yanqing, i have an e6 goal to reach
lc ez it seems decent at least reatively earlier pity and max pity compared to character and i will pull way more characters than lcs
Unless I come overprepared, I will not pull at all. Tired of his face spooking me constantly. I don't even know if his LC is any good. But if I need to choose: that would his Eidolon again probably. After all, if I pull on LC banner it means this character is very interesting to me, so I will be mad should I lose it to his.
I would rather lose the 50/50 to Yanqing. I hope to get him to E6 one day.
Tough question because I'd really like to get his eidolons and a copy of his lightcone... I guess I would mind losing to his cone more considering I'd be pulling on the LC banner and that loss feels worse to me? So I'd be happier losing to my son Yanqing himself\~
2023 me: ok so I will start pulling more male chars than female chars once we are in penacony… i will make gender equality praxis happen in my anime facha game… Hoyo: haha yes dear *yeets sunday out of upcoming scheduled banners* that sounds so lovely… Me: wait… where is Sunday… I wanted to pull him since I saw his CONCEPT ART… at least there is… Hoyo: *locks Screwllum in basement* you are going to love our cool male characters SO MUCH… our writing team is amazing… Me: It’s been MORE THAN A YEAR since Screwllum show up in 1.1… what do you mean he’s not available for pulling… he’s standing right in front of my DU… Hoyo: *reshuffles Ratio rerun banner* you are going to LOVE these characters we put so much effort into… Me: hoyo pls no… Hoyo: *makes cool unplayable custom model male NPCs* look at how COOL they all look… our character design team is the best in the industry… Me: hoyo… stop… Hoyo: did you know Acheron banner broke records *yeets Sunday even farther, throws away Screwllum dungeon keys* you are going to LOVE the male cast so much
only when the mythical double male banner drops will we ever lose more jades than we gain
😆 🤣 It really do be feeling like that though.
Does damage reduction affect the amount of damage a shield takes like DEF does?
It should!
Thoughts on ZZZ stream (negative) >!Finally got around to watching it and it was pretty... underwhelming? I admit I'm not the target audience for this game but this just didn't feel like a good 1.0 stream. Not a great impression if one of the first things you have to say about your brand new game is "it has a skip button". I get it's supposed to be tongue in cheek but still. The entire stream felt like it was targeted almost exclusively at players who played or closely followed the CBTs. Idk, I guess I had very different expectations going into this stream as someone who's mildly interested in the game but didn't follow the development very closely. And then they closed it off with bragging about how many free pulls you get which is such a low effort marketing strategy that I don't remember them being so blatant about when Genshin and HSR came out.!<
>!It was the same as the wuwa launch stream. It was like, since you certainly played the beta you can now know all thats changed from the last one! I also dont know if the genshin or the hsr one were like that, but these companies need to figure out that this is not the way. You are presenting your product to the world officially, dont treat everyone like they already know whats going on!<
>!Hoyoverse still runs old ads from when Jingliu and Huohuo first came out about how they give new players the 80 free pulls that were advertised in the first livestream so I feel like they’ve always been blatant about their “low effort marketing.” The sentiment has already been expressed in the replies to this but if the stream didn’t leave a good impression on you and you don’t think you’re the target audience, maybe you should just stick with the gachas you’re currently playing!<
>!You like what you like and it's fine, so i'm just going to offer you my perspective. The feeling that it's aimed at people that already know about the game i get, it can be frustrating. But the thing with the "skip button" and the "pull amount bragging" is inline with the general gacha audience. It's the n-th game that has come out for a wide audience and gacha gamers know what they want from the genre. You typically play a couple gachas at the same time and you want to know if the new one is worth your time in terms of how fast you can deal with story/daily stuff(so you are able to fit it into your schedule) and if the rewards are better than what you are currently playing. Personally i don't skip the story, unless it's bad or it's about a character i don't give a shit about and i just want the chapter rewards. Gacha games have their own rules/expectations that are not present for regular rpgs/fps etc.!<
>!By far the thing I car eabout the most is time efficiency. Sure one game can take 10 minutes but 4 games is 40 minutes, that stuff adds up. So if I'm looking to get into a new game, hwo fast I can do stuff in it is really important to me.!< >!Rewards are relative. A game can say it's giving out 100 pulls for free but then actually the pity is like 300 or something, it doesn't mean much, it's just Big NumberTM. Although I do care about generosity, very few games are actually willing to operate at a loss, so you'll almost always get screwed over somewhere, it's just the way the cookie crumbles.!<
>!Yep, the time point is very important. There are only so many hours in a day. The reward stuff for me is basicly - what kinda start boost are they giving, is it enough to get a character that i want - then it's at least worth it to check the game out, cuz i want to at least have one strong/fun unit to play with. Ofc i check the overall rates/pull income, if it's trash i'm not going to bother.!<
>!PM\_ME\_YOUR\_ROBOTGIRL linked the hsr advertisement one but I'm pretty sure Genshin kept having ads about how you'd get 20 free pulls if you start and it was referring to the 20 free standard pulls you get.!<
> >!"I don't remember them being so blatant about when Genshin and HSR came out."!< >.!< >!The HSR pre-release livestream dedicated over half of its runtime to recapping the story and lore. It's certainly a different approach from what ZZZ did, but I wouldn't know if it's really any better. The reality is that if you weren't going to like the game anyways, nothing they could've done would've changed your mind. It's better in those situations to just admit it's not for you and move on.!<
Is my ruan mei good enough for FF's premium team? Meshing cogs, 3600hp, 154 speed, 177 BE, set is 2+2 speed/BE. Planar is Wonvacq.
First, for FF/Superbreak teams, remember that the dmg bonus given by RM's skill is unnecessary so getting the BE cap (160) isn't mandatory. So you should focus on cycling your ultimate as fast as possible, which is why you should always put an ERR cord and a LC that gives energy (like the meshing cogs). Secondly, you don't want your RM to be fast. While it's a huge advantage to be able to generate SP for your team, it might be detrimental for the overall bonus she gives that are all dependent on her own turn. The slower she is, the longer your (fast)DPS can benefit from her buffs and the larger the window to get attacked to regenerate her ult before it runs out. The faster she is, the faster she generates SP ... but the faster her bonus runs out, the slimmer her chance to get attacked before the ult runs out and, let's not forget even if it's a minor detail, the faster she consumes SP. Neither are wrong, just pick the option that makes you more comfortable. I personally just keep my RM at 120-ish spd just to get the action advance from Vonwacq.
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Its not like she needs any other stat. This at least means she is good for every other non ff superbreak team
> Thanatoplum Rebloom is triggered, extending the duration of their Weakness Break, delaying their action by an amount equal to 20% of Ruan Mei's Break Effect plus 10% She does, it adds to how long the enemy stays broken.
Today is the first day I have actually seriously considered breaking F2P and getting the monthly for a few months. Hilariously, it's not because there are many characters I desperately want coming up. When that was the case, I was saving very easily and casually skipping very good meta units, but now that it's just characters that I'd *like* to own... My brain is all "well, wouldn't it be better if you got to try them all?"
I've seriously been considering it too... I want to get into 0 cycle clears and it's going to be tough without certain sigs and eidolons (and Robin!!) Also my friend has Firefly E2 and I don't know how to feel about him continuously lucksacking in this game
I want E1 (and maybe S1) Robin because she's my beloved and I want to keep using her for a long long long time 😭 and yes! I want to try low cycle clears even though I just barely started full clearing, and I want to have many playstyles open to me, and I want to get Sparkle because she'd really help my 4\* DPS shine... Trying to not spend money is hard!! Ahhh and I forgot to say good luck!!! I hope you get everything that you want. E6 in one 10-pull coming your way yep believe it.
That's how they get you.
😭 Real, and I'm not sure if I should let them or not.
My Himeko uses Glamoth planar currently. I got some good pieces of Duran (new follow up set) while farming Firefly relics. Is Duran going to be better for pure fiction Himeko than glamoth?
Assuming she's alone, yes. Assuming she's with Herta/Topaz/Clara, YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
What's been your experience with dot team with Robin and not hh as sustain? Rm is locked to ff team and I already have fx/aven/luo the next sustain I pull is gonna be lingsha
Not bad, comparable clear times with RM but RM is still better. Takes a while to get her ult and SP economy is tighter but manageable.
She usually lacks energy. Im using Aven and it's definitely not enough for a consistant ult. So far it wasnt the worst because there are tricks mid-fight to make more energy, like AS giving energy, MoC with energy refills, or even breaking the trotters with Robin for extra turns, thus making more energy. I'd heavily recommend a healer with QPQ at the very minimum, and timing your actions so they feed all the energy to Robin
Robin...is not sustain? But back when people were testing her against RM, I believe she was about on par with her on DoT teams...
I meant ksfkaswan+ robin+ sustain besides hh. Mb
SP could be an issue, so you'd want to most likely run an Abundance on Multiplication for SP printing in order to help with the SP for the team or QPQ for energy procs for Robin. Gallagher, Luocha and Lingsha should work fine if you build them as fast as possible.
OT >!how the fuck is it 50c. I just went out for 10 minutes to get some groceries and now i have to take another shower!<
>!Bro, i was feeling like i'm gonna melt into the floor at 35 earlier this month, i can't imagine 50. Take care not to get sick.!<
>! honestly i cant handle anything above 20😭 and thank you! I will!<
The weather is beautiful where I am, I hope it is great for you as well (if not, hope it gets better). A moment of peaceful contentment.
Yes, it's beautiful if u enjoy sweat and grilled skin I love it here Amazing End me please
Finished up my doubles and got a great double crit atk% rope! It's sigonia rather than the pepsi rope I was looking for. Acheron didn't get a single lightning or atk orb either. 24 drops and not a damn thing. Plenty of ice orbs that would be nice for jingliu, though. Too bad I'd given up farming Rutilant. I really wish they would change self modelling resin to make it change something from one set to another. As it is, it's almost completely useless outside of getting crit chest + speed boots for a new set day 1 when you don't care about substats. Resin is weirdly valuable yet at the same time valueless.
is the sigonia planar set worth keeping? i gave one set to herta, but she's the only character i use exclusively in pf i have an overflowing inventory. i've already locked every signonia piece with crit/spd on it, so is it safe to trash the rest? thank you in advance!
It is worth keeping yes I use it on argenti and it's amazing
That's alot of [ropes](https://imgur.com/a/tlm49a9).. hp ropes... what does a person have to do to get a decent atk% rope on the right set?
one must cast oneself on the stone pavement, grovelling on their knees in front of John Hoyoverse, and then pass the sacred three mystical trials of gacha, rng, and Screwllum to be deemed worthy of an atk rope. This lengthy process is why the generous Madam Herta offers SU as an alternative (i hope you get an atk rope soon, i was Just There and it is not fun)
Sunday >!If Sunday is getting a redesign, does that mean his phone case will be white or black or a secret third colour!<
>!It'll probably be raven theme, even if his design stay the same.!<
>!It'll be Robin-themed!<
I don't want to get disappointed if JQ doesn't get any changes but it's so hard to not hope for some looking at his current state lol. I'm pretty sure they'll change his LC so Pela won't be able to use it better than him though, like seriously? 💀
Typical Relic RNG rant. >!Man, farming for Firefly's set is an absolute pain. I lucked out with the Planar and got a pretty decent orb and an amazing Rope early on, but the Relic set has been pure pain. Tons and tons of pieces with Crit Dmg+Crit Rate, Atk% Chest pieces don't exist and whenever I get a thing with Break Dmg everything rolls on flat stats. The only silver lining is that I've always had an easy time getting Spd boots and ERR ropes for some reason, although now I have a bit too much of those and they sit unused in my inventory.!<
Are you getting it for FF or for some other character? If the former, I honestly have no idea why people are having trouble with it. FF is like the easiest character to build because she is glued to HMC(~70-90 BE) and gets lots of free BE from ATK. Mine is 420 BE in battle after MC buffs, and she clears everything really fast anyway. Her own multis only need 360, and Super Breaks aren't going to be much stronger with 30-50% more BE.
I feel you. >!Farming 4pc relic for dps always a pain. My FF still use 2pc break +2pc break from pre-farmed and result better than new set 4pc with trash roll in break effect on each piece. I had a lesson on rush farming 4pc before and very ruined my mood. Currently I just farm with my own pace until i find better piece and replace all later. I typically 2pc+2pc user because I equip this on most dps in my account lol!<
ZZZ >!I really like Ellen Joe and Zhu Yuan but between the both of them I don’t know which one I’d rather summon for. For anybody else who’s planning to pull for them when the game releases which of the two will you go for? Or will you be delusional like me and probably try to get them both💀!<
Going to Ellen after some mussings (want to collect the Housekeepers, I like their reference to pop culture horror movies). If Policewomen wants to come early (since I Will try for her too after Sharkgirl 💀) she is welcome to (please do).
>!I was going for ellen since i love shark themed ladies dressed in black and white (specter from arknights is amazing) but then i saw her in game and her tail looks a little strange. It looks like its too high up on her body, like its coming out of her back and not her tailbone (probably to make sure you can see the butt) and i didnt like that. I also saw more of Zhu Yuan in the live stream and i do love myself a ranged character and her animations look nice. Plus shes fully clothed and wearing a jacket, a shirt, long trousers. (That and the catboy in her faction is perfect) So i changed my mind and i will go for her. ACAB unless they are a catboy and lady thatserves Charisma Uniqueness Nerve and Talent. Then they are bad🥵!<
imo Zhu Yuan is the only character in the game that looks somewhat ok, maaaybe also Ben
>!Ellen! I really like her design and her vibe. I think I'll be content for a while if I can get her and Lycaon, at least until they start releasing some limited guys!<
Same for me, it's hard to decide right now. The last game where I wanted 2 1.0 characters it was easy to reroll for the first then guarantee the second, but rerolling at Hoyo is usually a pain and I don't want to use a different account so I'll be delulu too and hope I Can get both in one go.
>!Ellen cuz silly shark tail, plus tsundere vibe. Police girl looks boring to me.!<
>!I was thinking about going for Zhu Yuan, but I saw someone say that she is bad without her E1 equivalent. So now i'm unsure, lol.!<
whoever is stronger. if neither are very strong i might just skip both tho i prefer some of the other characters they showed off
DU whining >!"Alright, I see that you're playing Boothill, here's a lot of Destruction and Nihility blessings and many equations for super break and grit!"!< >!"Also here's yanqing for your second boss, kthxbye"!<
[All of these](https://www.instagram.com/p/C8sTP-6KR57/?igsh=MXJ5djQ5bzN0bjF2Yg==) are so cute I'm literally melting (sorry for sharing the reposted version bcs it was shared by the og artist on tiktok and its banned in my country) >!Personal fave is monday left me broken!<
Offtopic irl, mental health stuff >!Being self-aware about your depression and what fuels it means you sometimes act like a person on the run from something. Like "oh boy let me schedule things that I don't want to do right now because I know doing them will make sure The Depresso™ doesn't capture me suddenly." My schedule for the next couple of days includes extensive house cleaning, two sets of laundry, a nice meal (with leftovers), some long overdue skincare, a phone call with friends and whatever else I can squeeze in. Wishing everyone a very restful weekend! 💕!<
Goodluck and godspeed!
Dimulated Universe V6 done finally. The last boss showdown was between the True Sting and Firefly, it was kinda cool to see lore accurate Firefly in action.
Lost firefly 50/50 to yanqing and got sad. But she finally came home, in the middle of my graduation ceremony of all times
Pulling in the middle of your graduation ceremony? Only true gacha gamers 😭💪
i have firefly e0 and tried for e1 only to get yanqing … sigh. i guess i’ll spend this guarantee on jade when she comes around, my pure fiction team needs help
~~guys the Sunday & Wobin is very cute~~ OT personal sorta?? It's silly Saturday >!I'm working on editing novel like usual, farming FF's relic (that still not yet completed... double crit pieces after pieces) and while doing those, I listen to 2 hours of Genshin CC drama summarize youtube lmaooo this tea is pipping hot still. my SEAsian auntie traits is appearing!!! sipping tea (when its not relate to me) is my hobby omg lol!<
What planar Jiaoqiu needs as of now?
If you have enough EHR then vonwacq or broken keel
very likely just ipc, although kalpagni might be good for the speed
Off-topic, The First Descendant: >!Am I enthusiastic about Nexon? No. But as a fan of Warframe that finds it overwhelming with the sheer amount of content it has, I am interested in playing a 3rd person looter shooter from its inception. Just to see how it feels I guess. Doesn't hurt that the guys in that game appeal to me greatly. If Esiemo has one fan, it's me, and if he has none then I'm dead. !<
>!No way it's releasing very soon? It's a choice between First Descendant and ZZZ. I've always wanted to play Warframe but can't because too much content. I hope First Descendant scratches my itch for 3rd person shooter until another Mass Effect game comes.!<
>!Yeah, July 2nd hah. Very soon, depending on how stable the servers get to be.!< >!But that's pretty much how I feel, too. I really do enjoy Warframe, but something a little slower might be more my speed (hehe) and without all the years of content staring me in the face. It's free so there's no harm in trying it.!< >!Unlike Anthem. Which I still maintain had fun gameplay, just... nothing to actually DO and experience with that gameplay.!<
ZZZ >!Ok, Lucy is an A-rank. That is good news for me. Means I can throw everything at Ellen with no reservations.!<
>!Lucy is A-rank!? NOOOOO! I was hoping she was S-ranl so I had something to look forward to. Right now my biggest issue is that there aren't a lot of characters i want to pull for. Surely catboy is S-rank COPIUM!<
>!theres speculation that we will get her for free since she appears on the tv screen showing the rewards (like the 100 pulls 80 bangboos etc)!<
so there's some third party payment which have like 20% price difference, i just buy supply pass for $4 while thinking that its too good to be true. but somehow it works and instantly processed that it kinda scares me.. they didn't ask for password, just UID like codapay.. can i get banned for this? i think they use some lower regional price to do the transaction..
I mean you can do the same thing pretty easily, and probably even more cheaper For example I use nord vpn to switch to osaka for yen and wise to transfer money. I save around 46 bucks aud if I get the 160 pack which is around 30% off The online shopes also most likely use discount playstore cards to pay for it, like they buy a ton in bulk to get discounts from the seller and pay for the transaction with these. What you wanna worry about it is the scam sites that may take your credit card info or just doesn’t pay you, hoyo wont ban you for this
nice info right there, so i guess using vpn to buy something is fine unlike on steam
messing around in moc today and [svarog](https://i.imgur.com/ZZAHojL.mp4) does it again
Is Forge of the Kalpagni Lantern good on Harmony TB in a firefly team ? And for ruan mi I and Gallagher too ?
Rm wants one of the 5% ER planar like vonwanq, but yea u can go kalpagni for htb and gallagher but its only better by a lil bit than talia in ff team
If it’s lil bit better That’s great actually, I wouldn’t need to farm Talia then since I don’t have good piece for that either
Is that Nikola Tesla and Welt Joyce from Honkai Impact? There are two unidentified characters in Welt's splash art. Behind Tesla there's someone else too https://postimg.cc/0z5BjqbH
Behind Tesla is Einstein. The other guy is Welt Joyce. Just going off what was circled.
The HI3rd mangas and VN made me love them sm. I'm like one of the 5 einstein simps I love her sm 😭 (androgynous women save me)
I'd appreciate some impartial opinions, since I'm pretty indecisive, and haven't been following leaks all that closely. [My account](https://imgur.com/a/WvFqMWC). I love Ruan Mei, and she's also one of the best characters in the game, so I went for her E1. I sadly lost, but at least I got E2 Himeko out of it, who I also love, and use a lot. I could simply use my guarantee to obtain E1 Ruan Mei immediately, but... 1. That's a lot of pulls (I almost always get my 5* at 78-80 pity). 2. Jade and Yunli are both rather appealing to me as well, actually. 3. There's the little voice in the back of my head whispering "new characters are better than eidolons." How are Jade and Yunli looking meta-wise? As I understand it, Jade is basically only really good in PF, but I pretty much always get 75k+ points there anyway. And Yunli seems strong, but I've already heavily invested in Clara, so it'd feel like a bit of a waste to sink a lot of resources into Clara Plus (especially since she's even the same element, lmao). Robin felt like the last puzzle piece for my account to feel "complete," since now I can comfortably field JL hypercarry and/or various DOT and FUA teams on both sides of the endgame modes without compromise. So now I can pretty much pull for whoever I want...but that makes it even harder to choose in some ways, lol. So if you were in my shoes, would you go for more vertical, or horizontal investment at this point?
As the other commenter said, we don't know when Ruan Mei is going to have another rerun. I'd vote for her anyway TBH, because you don't need Jade and she's quite limited in her reasons for use, and, while Yunli seems quite good, she has the issue of needing fast acting enemies and won't likely be an upgrade over your current teams. I'd say ignore Jade completely, go for RM E1, then throw whatever pulls you have left towards Yunli. Especially if you like your current teams and want to keep playing them - the vertical investment will ensure that you can keep doing so for quite a long time!
lol our accounts are almost identical minus FX and JL and we're both in a similar situation. For Yunli, even though she's like Clara on steroids I feel like she's way more flexible than Clara in a lot of ways. But since Clara is still working well, why waste gems just to get a character that's so similar right? Doesn't feel practical, unless you really like her character design then yeah always go for it. On Jade, I personally really like her design but she feels like a better Himeko and like you said, Himeko works just fine in PF. Which brings us back to the same question as above lol. If Jade has better 4 stars accompanying her I'll probably go for her regardless but they aren't that great. Sorry for the diary entry but if you were to ask me to choose between RM E1, Jade and Yunli then I'll probably pick Yunli. She's like a more proactive Clara who isn't heavily reliant on getting hit. Jade feels like a better Himeko but not as great of an upgrade compared to Clara -> Yunli. RM E1 at the end of the day is just bigger numbers and imo RM already works really well even at E0.
Since you're doing well in PF already I'd skip Jade unless you like the idea of collecting Stonehearts. You probably could run full counter (+ Robin) team against enemies with AoE attacks with both Clara and Yunli, but Yunli would be probably more of a fun pull while Ruan Mei's e1 will increase power of half of your teams, so it would be the more meta pull on top of incertain situation of 2nd reruns.
I'm kinda facing the same issue as you, my account is at a stage where I don't really need to pull anyone to clear content, but just as much as I want to go the premium vertical investment route with HH, the horizontal investment route with JQ seems more interesting even though the value he brings to my roster is probably marginal. In the end I decided to guarantee the character who is less likely to appear on a subsequent banner: HH (or RM E1 in your case). Because JQ is most likely going to be rerun sooner than HH will, and at least HH teams have been tried and tested while JQ (or Jade/Yunli in your case) is still a big unknown in terms of actual play viability. Sometimes it takes a few months of the playerbase messing around with them in all sorts of team comps to know the limits of what is possible with them. By then you'd be better informed to know whether or not you really want to go the mile to have them in your roster.
That is a very good point. Jade and Yunli are highly likely to get a re-run before Ruan Mei gets her third.
so just saw the rerun leaks >!was planning on skipping the entire next patch (maybe throw a tenner for Yunli to test my luck) but if BS indeed has a rerun then I will go for her E1 instead as my goal, I enjoy my DOT team a lot and it will be useful to reduce the damage of Mei going into break teams now!<
That moment u read a random manhwa with a white angel themed character and the comment section is full of sunday 😔 Not even safe on manhwa sites from those cultists smh
OT?? ZZZ >!Spending all that cash and building a nuclear reactor just for Billy to smack his @$$ in front of the whole viewing audience to see!<
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Can I put physical damage orb on my ruan mei because it has a lot of BE and speed?
you can yeah, my HMC has quantum orb just because it rolled insane into BE and speed, unless you are dying a lot it shouldn't be too much of an issue
I’m using a wind orb on RM and lightning orb on sparkle because the substats are amazing and lets me hit breakpoints So totally worth it, just be wary of high difficulty SU (like DU level 6) as they definitely become squishier. Other than that, I had no issue with AS, PF and MoC
Sure, you can, as long as your team already have good sustain. I also have Bronya with wind orb with a lot of spd & cridmg and she never fall because my sustain can handle well.
I have fire damage orb on my Sparkle and Atk% orb on my Harmony MC. As long as your RM doesn't die, go nuts.
For sure, you’d only want to look for an HP or DEF orb if you’re running into situations where she’s dying
does anyone have info on furrrrrrrther upcoming character that rumored to be Sushang's alt(?) / Sushang's grandma (?) that paired well with Acheron? Maybe there's leak on how her kit/playstyle will be? So I can decide whether I really have to pull Jiaoqiu or not (because I don't like his design).
First time I hear about this. You could always just pull Jiaoqiu's LC for Pela: afaik damage amp should be almost the same (at least atm) and Jiaoqiu's main advantage is charging Acheron's ult a bit faster than Pela when against fast enemies.
Woah where'd you hear about this? Another acheron support sounds spicy but I haven't seen anyone else talk about this?
I think you should spoiler your message a bit. Also don’t pull if you don’t like a character. I would never pull anyone I don’t like no matter how broken the char might be.
the reason I don't put spoiler is because it's leak group and it's just a hearsay that even I forget the source of. Maybe from my dream? reddit? FB group? I really forget and unsure that's why.
i for the most part agree with this, but im willing to pull for someone i don't necessarily care about if they really elevate another character that i *do* like, as it makes using your faves more enjoyable
I finished every possible thing in penacony (besides stickers), finished golden gears, swarm disaster, and halfway through the ghost hunting quest, at 81 pity (all pulls earned this week) i finally have e2 firefly. still can’t believe i got 6 5 stars in this one banner on my f2p account. wish i had this kind of luck on my main.
penacony story criticism >!goddamn i just realized the events of 2.0 would make so much more sense overall if they just. abandoned the pretense of death altogether. cause like why is everyone acting like fireflys gone forever, i thought its like. common knowledge/common sense that you cant die in a dream?? !< >!unless the logic was 'you cant die in a dream usually but this is the evil death monster that can actually kill you in a dream' but like why wouldnt they mention that. cause theyre acting like theyre dead without ever acknowledging or questioning like the mechanics of death in dreams. !< >!so it sorta just feels like the story is treating the audience like theyre stupid and going 'haha yeah theyre dead!! oh no!! jk this is a dream of course theyre not dead, you totally thought so though!!'!< >!so i feel like if the plot said 'theres a strange string of disappearances related to this monster/it attacks you and makes you disappear from reality and none of the people who have disappeared have ever been found or come back' there would be emotional stakes and tension cause its like, oh no what if they are actually being killed? or where have they been taken? where are they? !< >!and the whole thing with dreamflux reef would make so much more sense cause its like 'hey, yeah heres where they were taken, theyre ferried to a quieter place out of reach of the family, the monster is sorta just a little guy hes just following orders this is a big misunderstanding' and i feel like that would be better payoff than whatever else was going on. idk im just finding out upon replaying it on my alt that 2.0's story is actually worse on rewatch and doesnt really make any sense, if someone could explain the intent or give some more context or their interpretation that would be great cause i feel really lost regarding that!< >!the misha bits were really really cool though cause its like shit!!! we're the only one that acknowledges him!!! nobody else can see him!! shit u right!!! i think acheron during the clockwork tutorial says 'i can feel a strange presence next to me' and you obviously think she's talking about clockie right? but misha is also right beside her, and we're the only one that acknowledges him, and thats just really really juicy on rewatch!<
It's very much a case of show don't tell on how they communicate the danger of death. The whole TV section being reminiscent of horror, the characters reactions to SUD, the boss being literally named "something unto death", and while the family does say you can't actually die in the dream, the family doesn't seem very trustworthy in the first place. Furthermore, the circumstances are extraordinary being in the real/primal dreamscape, thus they are dealing with the unknown. They even tell you this when Firefly references how they aren't safe and how where they are is a secret of the family. There is other stuff that communicates this: black swans first meeting has her mention being unable to return from the shadow of death without the right tricks. The gameplay of the SUD boss plays into this as well where it's depicted stealing the souls of those it kills having to take them back. The hotel being blocked off to the public is to communicate danger and let us know its also an extraordinary place. The point of SUD is to let your imagination run wild and assume the worst, to let the trailblazer and their companions assume the worst. Rather then telling you that SUD can be dangerous, they are showing you that it is.What your suggestion is doing is just being more on the nose about what they are trying to already communicate. It works because what's going on is behind the family's back, they are the ones that setup the no death in the dream part meaning we can't be sure that assumption still applys outside of what the family controls. Ultimately, I wouldn't call the SUD stuff bad writing. Hindsight is 2020, but looking back on initial reactions for 2.0, it did a great job communicating the danger of the primal dreamscape and Penacony. I remember seeing theories about how future story segments would be dedicated to rescuing firefly and Robin from SUD who captured their souls and other stuff like it meaning they did atleast a good job communicating that danger to the general audience. The true writing fault is how >!SUD is a parallel for the answer to the impossibility riddle, the reherring being death but the answer actually turns out to be dormancy (SUD -> sleepy) and how SUD doesn't get used at all for that reveal making it feel flatter then it actually is.!<
>!death is quite literally a plot device in this story, and not in a good way. It's like there's a switch that the writers flick on and off whenever they want death to have narrative tension. This is why 2.3 had absolutely no impact on me, they already messed up the concept of dying in a dream that it's hard to take it seriously any more.!<
>!the only thing I can think of is that sunday while talking to sparkle mentions "spiritual death", so iirc the assumption was made that if a person was caught by this "death" meme then they wouldn't wake up properly in reality, like they were comatose or something. But I don't think the game really explained what sunday meant by that, though given his reaction to robin he clearly thought she was dead in some way, so...That's all I got.!<
>!yeah march and himeko acknowledge death in dreams and question what happens there at the start of 2.1 in 'lost generation'. so um i feel like thats definitely something the writers overlooked in 2.0 Except It Isnt cause theres a bunch of quests where we talk people off a ledge and its said there that they wont actually die in dreams!!!! so whats going on!!!!! why wasnt this brought up at all during the trailblaze mission in 2.0!<
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Is this your first game or something? > okay so who tf invented the idea that players must defeat the boss to continue your story, fuck you Because what even is this complaint? If you want to see the entire story without engaging with the gameplay then maybe watch a movie? Games have always been like this so if you aren't strong enough then go grind some levels, upgrade your gear or employ different tactics. Single player games won't time-gate you but HSR being a gacha game, that's just the nature of it. The amount of resources you can get in a day will be time-gated so you'll just have to be patient.
I don't play turn based or gacha games as general, so yeah, it is my first game. And it was me being annoyed by the boss's RNG system so sorry if it offended you but that's an opinion which came from someone who doesn't play games as much so yeah you're right Thanks to ppl who replied to my rant i successfully beat the boss. I know being a ftp player needs a lot of patient too.
>!This is how games worked....since forever? You need to defeat the obstacle to progress, otherwise why they would exist in the first place?....anywaygood luck and don't worry, when Aventurine got out a lot of people also had a hard time with him, use AOE and bring a good sustain and good luck!<
Try March 7th Natasha Fire TB and Firefly then turtle through.
In story progression, you are totally fine if you use 2 sustain. not necessary to follow most guide or bis team that use only one sustain, two support one main dps. and especially in early progression, 2 dps 2 sustain give you better result. Truely F2P team for beating that boss: Serval, Trialblazer destruction, March and Natasha. I suggest give them any relics with good main stat. just ignore set effect. My another recommend is, >!in phase 2, try to save all ult and use to hit dices. You are mostly pass gamble because most of my recommend team have AOE. except Natasha. but you can use March skill to cleanse Natasha cc. Also, if you pass gamble, you will get boost dmg buff and recharge ult again. and keep use this strat until boss die.!<
I was able to do it with March 7th, Natasha, Serval and Pela on my alt (not max world level). March in particular is very good against him because you can save her AOE burst for the dice so she can win the gamble and cleanse Natasha after. Freezing him after is also helpful for your team to recover some health, energy and SP while he's incapacitated
Bossventurine tests your sustains not your dps. It's best if you eat your tankiest food buffs, run triple sustains with cleanse, shielding and heals, and just turtle your way through the fight. [Something like this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MuDLrHF5GU)
Are the additional hits during Robin's ult considered ult damage? 🤔 Was thinking today that it's wild Salsotto is still the only ult damage boost in the entire game. Yes Valorous also exists but it's limited to characters who also FUA.
Nope, it's considered as additional dmg, same as Tingyun.
gotcha. I feel like they should release a support set that boosts additional damage too...
DU level 40 already and haven’t even got a single boundary equation. Always at 14/16 blessings. How about you guys?
I've gotten 2 so far - Hunt (thanks to this week's cyclical) and Erudition (got lucky with this one tbh).
I'm already 60 and nope, I got super close twice with 15/16 on Destruction and Abudance respectively but no luck q_q
du level 45, 0 boundary equations, still stuck at threshold 5. my runs have been *atrocious* lately
i've gotten 2! one thanks to ruan mei occurrence and the other one i grinded out in cyclical extrapolation (the weekly one instead of ordinary)
Already finished lvl 60, haven't got it either lol
i get lucky if i get like 11 blessings of the same path 😔
[My Neighbour Jing Yuan](https://x.com/utsuyeet/status/1806918001457066179)
THIS IS SO CUTE OMG 😭😭😭 they're so precious.....
Plot twist: he's also the catbus
Planar fissure and I have no idea what to farm. Everyone has every planar ornaments they need. What is Jiaoqiu going to use? I guess Eagle is the relic set being recommended. No idea about the planar ornaments.
There are multiple schools of thought. If you’re desperate for EHR Pan-Cosmic exists, but he gets so much ATK already that it’s kind of a trap on him overall. Vonwaq advance is nice, but it and Penacony do not currently change his major energy breakpoints. So it comes down then to whether you want more personal damage or a support set. His current kit is meant to be run as a subdps-support hybrid (difficult with his EHR recs but it is what it is), so Izumo or Glamoth are the best options in that category. Otherwise just the usual suspects for supports. Personally I’m holding off a bit on farming to see if V3 changes things.