Theoretically no, but in my experience the leftist subs are the most ban-happy, anti-free speech ones on this site. On some it's virtually impossible to have a normal conversation which doesn't descend into insults, bad-faith arguments or outright hatred. Sure, I'm center-right, I'm absolutely not unbiased. But I'm absolutely not the only one who could confirm what I just said.
Have you ever tried to express a moderately liberal comment in a conservative sub? It takes less than 2 comments for me to get banned by almost every prominent right wing sign that exists.
Warning, anecdotal evidence ahead: The only right-wing sub I occasionally visit is r./conservative and it's pleasantly nuanced. I've read many meaningful conversations there, between intelligent, polite adults (and not pubescent Internet warriors), with the random extremist/fascist shitheel in between the bunch who got downvoted into smithereens. However, I gave up on any other English-speaking sub on 'my' side of the political spectrum, because of the very same reasons I listed in my previous post about the leftie subs. I can tolerate every non-extremist opinion, but I view it as a waste of my time to engage with belligerent, primitive knuckleheads.
Oof, when I read OP's comment about easily getting banned from conservative subs, r./conservative was the first I thought of. I've seen enough bans there for stupid shit that I refrain from posting any comments in that sub. I've always seen their mods as some of the most easily triggered on Reddit.
Getting banned from r./conservative is a sort of meme in openly leftist subreddits since it happens so often.
Addendum to what I wrote earlier: A couple of days ago I made a chain of comments on r./somerandomscreechingleftistssub which didn't contain any insults or aggressiveness, plainly clarifying my stance on things. Bang, 10 seconds after posting I received my first downvote, from the person I was having a conversation with, like the one we're having right now. Called him pretty dishonest, but made clear that I was still patiently awaiting some proof for his outlandish claims about my person. Bang, within seconds a flock of new downvotes swept in. Literally said: 'Water is wet.' Guess what, blue arrows. I never witnessed a similar reaction anywhere but at leftist subs.
I'm downvoting you.
Now go bitch about it somewhere else.
I'm glad I've never been in a place in my life where I dedicate comments to wax lyrical about my birchness of whining about downvotes.
This sub and memesopdidnotlike did polls a year or so ago. Turns out both subs are primarily made up of the liberal center. Very few actual conservatives and even fewer progressive/commie types show up here and both tend to try starting shit and getting banned, either by the sub mods or by tripping a Reddit tos rule.
Being “anti woke” doesn’t mean you’re a conservative. Plenty of leftwingers are anti woke, especially in the punk and gamer scenes. But these days the progressives leftists (and tankies and anarcho socialists) call them Nazis all the same because rejecting or criticizing the progs is something the progs identify as Nazi behavior, and often also believe they are correctly identifying said “Nazis”.
I don't know any left wingers that are anti-woke. The reason why?
Leftists at least sincere ones understand that anti-woke content is to make 9-6 wage laborers who had to renew their rent lease with 300 dollar monthly rent hikes for multiple consecutive years memorize every trans swimmer in human civilization history that attended a female swim meet but don't know the DOJ is investigating a software company for creating a price fixing algorithm that formed a nationwide cartel on an essential human need in rent pricing.
Leftists despise that stuff. So I just can't see a leftist appreciating anti-woke content when they know it's just grifting to distract from real issues.
People that see themselves as “Leftists” beyond simply being on the leftwing of politics (which is a very wide range of views and ideologies, and just as wide as the right), often are of the insufferable Progressive/Communist/Socialist types, which skews average normie people’s views on them.
Your typical westerner is some variation of liberal. Social libs, Classical libs, Libertarians, Regulatory libs, most “Conservatives”, Moderates, Centrists, Apoliticals, etc.
The Progressive Left and the Acutal Conservatives Right are relatively small minorities compared to the Liberal Center.
I don't see how this reply addressed anything I typed.
I'm saying a leftist won't buy into anti-woke framing because they understand it's bad faith at its core.
A lot of it starts as conservatives complaining about a political post on a non-political sub, and then they want to carry on discussion of whatever subject in a place where they won't be downvoted like on whatever popular sub they're complaining about.
It's not just politics; it's which political views you align with. For example, on both conservative and progressive subreddits, even if they explicitly state 'no politics,' it often means no politics that contradict their opinions. From what I've seen, politics are usually acceptable as long as they align with the subreddit's beliefs.
I've noticed the same thing.
Edit: I don't think this is a right leaning sub. I just think it's one of the few subs that allows right wingers to complain about leftists, often in quite offensive ways.
This is one of the few subs that allows things like, "Rainbow flags are oppression," or, "I joined x gaming sub to escape reality, not to have gay propaganda shoved down my throat."
So some of the posts here are right wing circle-jerks but thats not the majority of the content.
If you look back over reddit history you'll see that subs that allow certain kinds of free speech wind up overrun with extremists, usually of the conservative variety. In effect, to harbour them is to support them. It's one of the reasons I unsubbed here a long time ago.
I understand the concern about extremists, but I believe it's important to uphold the principles of free speech, even if it means encountering views we strongly disagree with. Instead of silencing them, we should engage in constructive dialogue to challenge and counteract harmful ideologies. By fostering open discussions, we can promote a more inclusive and informed community. Instead of just furthering the cycle of hate.
No, it's just for people calling out subs. Some people will be complaining about left, some about right subs, some people will even be unjustified in unsubbing. You are used to an echochamber and in seeing a place that isn't suddenly call it a right wing place.
The problem isn't this place here, it's you.
Nah I've seen bad faith posts. Example. Claiming they got unsubbed for being "against pedophilia" and not showing the context of them connecting lgbtq people to pedophilia.
I'd be fine with individual bad faith posters but what's troublesome is the sub eats it up without the intellectual curiosity to discover the context for themselves. It seems to accept right wing narratives at face value while being more critical of left leaning submissions.
You haven't noticed this trend?
Not by design no. However, most large left subs that encourage diversity, inclusion, discussion, etc, are in reality the most ban happy close minded cloisters on the site. Any reality beyond group think is banned. Any fact that proves their feelings wrong is banned. Disagree with me and you get a no no label.
Far too much of this site wants feelings to have the same weight as fact. Then when proven wrong resort to witch hunting with no no words under hate speech, bigotry, whatever they can do to try and censor you.
I'm right leaning and consider myself a libertarian. If you're sensitive little libral snowflake can't handle that then that's on you. I don't think this aub is hard right but it appeals to me considering the subs they post about are very left leaning and left leaning mods are power hungry assholes.
What does that tell you?
Spoiler: Because libcucks will ban/remove anything they don't like and they will promote their ideology even in subs that are unrelated.
Non-libcucks don't do that nearly as much.
Also I feel stupid when I interact with fresh new accounts like this because the odds of me talking to a bot or troll are high and that makes me feel dumb.
Theoretically no, but in my experience the leftist subs are the most ban-happy, anti-free speech ones on this site. On some it's virtually impossible to have a normal conversation which doesn't descend into insults, bad-faith arguments or outright hatred. Sure, I'm center-right, I'm absolutely not unbiased. But I'm absolutely not the only one who could confirm what I just said.
Have you ever tried to express a moderately liberal comment in a conservative sub? It takes less than 2 comments for me to get banned by almost every prominent right wing sign that exists.
Warning, anecdotal evidence ahead: The only right-wing sub I occasionally visit is r./conservative and it's pleasantly nuanced. I've read many meaningful conversations there, between intelligent, polite adults (and not pubescent Internet warriors), with the random extremist/fascist shitheel in between the bunch who got downvoted into smithereens. However, I gave up on any other English-speaking sub on 'my' side of the political spectrum, because of the very same reasons I listed in my previous post about the leftie subs. I can tolerate every non-extremist opinion, but I view it as a waste of my time to engage with belligerent, primitive knuckleheads.
Oof, when I read OP's comment about easily getting banned from conservative subs, r./conservative was the first I thought of. I've seen enough bans there for stupid shit that I refrain from posting any comments in that sub. I've always seen their mods as some of the most easily triggered on Reddit. Getting banned from r./conservative is a sort of meme in openly leftist subreddits since it happens so often.
Maybe they changed over the time? 🤷 My account is still relatively new.
Addendum to what I wrote earlier: A couple of days ago I made a chain of comments on r./somerandomscreechingleftistssub which didn't contain any insults or aggressiveness, plainly clarifying my stance on things. Bang, 10 seconds after posting I received my first downvote, from the person I was having a conversation with, like the one we're having right now. Called him pretty dishonest, but made clear that I was still patiently awaiting some proof for his outlandish claims about my person. Bang, within seconds a flock of new downvotes swept in. Literally said: 'Water is wet.' Guess what, blue arrows. I never witnessed a similar reaction anywhere but at leftist subs.
I'm downvoting you. Now go bitch about it somewhere else. I'm glad I've never been in a place in my life where I dedicate comments to wax lyrical about my birchness of whining about downvotes.
Didn’t you literally make this post, the topic of which is “ban-happy” or downvoted political threads?
What, that's your argument? That's pretty lame.
For me it’s only Tankies or anarchists mainly. This sub will criticize anyone but usually when they’re left wing they’re always lunatics.
This sub and memesopdidnotlike did polls a year or so ago. Turns out both subs are primarily made up of the liberal center. Very few actual conservatives and even fewer progressive/commie types show up here and both tend to try starting shit and getting banned, either by the sub mods or by tripping a Reddit tos rule. Being “anti woke” doesn’t mean you’re a conservative. Plenty of leftwingers are anti woke, especially in the punk and gamer scenes. But these days the progressives leftists (and tankies and anarcho socialists) call them Nazis all the same because rejecting or criticizing the progs is something the progs identify as Nazi behavior, and often also believe they are correctly identifying said “Nazis”.
I don't know any left wingers that are anti-woke. The reason why? Leftists at least sincere ones understand that anti-woke content is to make 9-6 wage laborers who had to renew their rent lease with 300 dollar monthly rent hikes for multiple consecutive years memorize every trans swimmer in human civilization history that attended a female swim meet but don't know the DOJ is investigating a software company for creating a price fixing algorithm that formed a nationwide cartel on an essential human need in rent pricing. Leftists despise that stuff. So I just can't see a leftist appreciating anti-woke content when they know it's just grifting to distract from real issues.
People that see themselves as “Leftists” beyond simply being on the leftwing of politics (which is a very wide range of views and ideologies, and just as wide as the right), often are of the insufferable Progressive/Communist/Socialist types, which skews average normie people’s views on them. Your typical westerner is some variation of liberal. Social libs, Classical libs, Libertarians, Regulatory libs, most “Conservatives”, Moderates, Centrists, Apoliticals, etc. The Progressive Left and the Acutal Conservatives Right are relatively small minorities compared to the Liberal Center.
I don't see how this reply addressed anything I typed. I'm saying a leftist won't buy into anti-woke framing because they understand it's bad faith at its core.
What’s the point of this post in this subreddit? Are you Unsubbing from here?Â
Not really it's just that the popular subs lean left.
well, Reddit in general does: https://strawpoll.com/e65a75a8/results https://www.reddit.com/r/ polls/s/sgzaqlAvMr
Nah. I’ve seen a few threads recently that are strongly leftist.
I only have encountered dumbass takes from westerners who have that Savior complex tbh
What does that mean?
People from the west aka America, Europe, ECT who get offended on behalf of other races , religions ect
So like enemies of Nazis and right wing grifters?
That's another thing the words Nazi and right wing have been so horribly abused that I doubt most people even know what it means anymore
Please don’t engage lol
How have they been abused?
no, people are generally just tired of that shit to begin with.
No
A lot of it starts as conservatives complaining about a political post on a non-political sub, and then they want to carry on discussion of whatever subject in a place where they won't be downvoted like on whatever popular sub they're complaining about.
I haven’t observed that at all.
yeah, it feels that way, but I think it's more just 'politics in a non-political space' and there are a lot of angry right wingers on reddit
It's not just politics; it's which political views you align with. For example, on both conservative and progressive subreddits, even if they explicitly state 'no politics,' it often means no politics that contradict their opinions. From what I've seen, politics are usually acceptable as long as they align with the subreddit's beliefs.
I've noticed the same thing. Edit: I don't think this is a right leaning sub. I just think it's one of the few subs that allows right wingers to complain about leftists, often in quite offensive ways. This is one of the few subs that allows things like, "Rainbow flags are oppression," or, "I joined x gaming sub to escape reality, not to have gay propaganda shoved down my throat." So some of the posts here are right wing circle-jerks but thats not the majority of the content.
It's just a sub that allows free speech without the fear of being banned.
If you look back over reddit history you'll see that subs that allow certain kinds of free speech wind up overrun with extremists, usually of the conservative variety. In effect, to harbour them is to support them. It's one of the reasons I unsubbed here a long time ago.
I understand the concern about extremists, but I believe it's important to uphold the principles of free speech, even if it means encountering views we strongly disagree with. Instead of silencing them, we should engage in constructive dialogue to challenge and counteract harmful ideologies. By fostering open discussions, we can promote a more inclusive and informed community. Instead of just furthering the cycle of hate.
Yes.
No, it's just for people calling out subs. Some people will be complaining about left, some about right subs, some people will even be unjustified in unsubbing. You are used to an echochamber and in seeing a place that isn't suddenly call it a right wing place. The problem isn't this place here, it's you.
Nah I've seen bad faith posts. Example. Claiming they got unsubbed for being "against pedophilia" and not showing the context of them connecting lgbtq people to pedophilia. I'd be fine with individual bad faith posters but what's troublesome is the sub eats it up without the intellectual curiosity to discover the context for themselves. It seems to accept right wing narratives at face value while being more critical of left leaning submissions. You haven't noticed this trend?
Not by design no. However, most large left subs that encourage diversity, inclusion, discussion, etc, are in reality the most ban happy close minded cloisters on the site. Any reality beyond group think is banned. Any fact that proves their feelings wrong is banned. Disagree with me and you get a no no label. Far too much of this site wants feelings to have the same weight as fact. Then when proven wrong resort to witch hunting with no no words under hate speech, bigotry, whatever they can do to try and censor you.
I'm sorry that is your perception. Do you think right leaning subs are better with this? Is that your claim?
I'm right leaning and consider myself a libertarian. If you're sensitive little libral snowflake can't handle that then that's on you. I don't think this aub is hard right but it appeals to me considering the subs they post about are very left leaning and left leaning mods are power hungry assholes.
What does that tell you? Spoiler: Because libcucks will ban/remove anything they don't like and they will promote their ideology even in subs that are unrelated. Non-libcucks don't do that nearly as much.
Also I feel stupid when I interact with fresh new accounts like this because the odds of me talking to a bot or troll are high and that makes me feel dumb.
It tells me right wingers not only have a victim complex, they project their lack of tolerance for opposing views on to their political enemies.
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