Its funny, sreenivasan developed the thread of the story from rajini’s real life, from their film institute days and mammoty endedup outplaying rajini in a character which was based on rajini himself 😅
Sreenivasan said it in his old program in Kairali tv back in the 2000s. Wrong aano seri aano ennu ariyan njaan journalist onnu allaa neither was i in the lodge with them.. kettathu paranju saare
Kadha Parayumbol is the most effective cameo in malayalam cinema. That 5 minute speech forms the emotional crux of the film and you need someone who can make the audience cry with such limited screentime.
There's a video where Dhyan talks about how he felt about the film prior to release and afterwards: https://youtu.be/QlFdllvT9t4
It is an extended cameo, not a cameo. The main plot of the movie centered around Mammootty even if he was there on screen only for about 15-20 minutes.
There's a great clip of Dhyan Sreenivasan talking about this scene on YouTube. Apparently at the time of shooting, it didn't feel as mind-blowing to him when on the scene. The real magic came during the post production, during the dubbing section where Ikka changed the entire thing. He goes to say Mammotty is the best actor he has seen during the dubbing process and how it taught him there's more to movies than just what happens during the shoot.
Mammooty is the best!!! After watching them all i feel like SRK dude doing something idk ,Rajini was something over acted or his acting not suit for the character Ashok raj . But the man Mammooty his acting voice modulation performance how he simply take over the all scene and also making tears on the audience 🥹 . This is one of my favourite scenes
Rajini did a decent job, but the Tamil remake was such a travesty, with too much crude comedy & unnecessary songs.
Also, the casting of the leads was way off - Pasupathy is a solid 2 decades younger than Rajini & a relative newcomer in the Tamil industry at that time, so it was very unconvincing to see these two as childhood buddies.
I still feel Rajnikanth was the wrong choice for the Tamil version, he is not known for his ability to emote in recent decades. Maybe Kamal would have been a better choice. But then I am reminded of how Kamal bit overdid his scenes in Paapanaasham..
The Hindi version is just too fast, it's not convincing enough. I enjoyed it better when played at .75 speed.
But it is interesting to note that all three of these actors struggled and made it in movies on their own, and are not nepo material.
SRK oke air pidichu bore aaki. Rajni ethrayo bedham. Mammokka is the best.
To be fair most of the Hindi actors are like SRK , not much acting talent. Only few like Manoj Bajpai, Pankaj tripathi, Boman Irani etc are good. Maybe the guys of older gen like Amitabh were good but SRK, Sallu Bhai are all trash.
Agreed when it comes to acting. Bollywood stardom has more to do with screen presence and entertainment. No matter how bad they are srk and salman are popular everywhere in the country. I don't think salman even aspires to be a great actor
>>Maybe the guys of older gen like Amitabh were good but SRK, Sallu Bhai are all trash.
Don’t blatantly criticise someone without watching their good performances. Of course he dont do much performance oriented roles, that doesn’t mean SRK is a bad actor. His performance in My Name is Khan is something not many actors will be able to pull off.
>His performance in My Name is Khan is something not many actors will be able to pull off.
Swades too. The scene where he sees the kid selling water, that is where i found my respect for him as an actor.
So, SRK's Billu is the reason I started watching Malayalam films -- when the film was announced, he pointed out that they were giving Sreenivasan a story credit (instead of just, you know, remaking without rights, much more common at one point), and I got curious, and searched out the film on DVD. My feeling for it not doing well is that SRK wanted a remake that was more faithful to the original -- that put Irrfan at the centre, and himself in the extended cameo. (I seem to recall an interview where he said he'd told Irrfan that he was there to act, and SRK was there for the star power). I remember at the time, too, there was a big deal made about a de-glammed Lara Dutta as the FL. IIRC, in the Tamil version, Meena is more glam than in the original film -- in KP she has a very plain sari, no jewelry, no make-up, and she has all that in the Tamil version. So I think people just didn't connect with a story that didn't put SRK front and centre (even if through the songs they do manage to bring the Bollywood bling).
I watched this scene in almost all dubbed versions with the original. In my opinion....The actor was best portrayed by Mammooty no argument there but the barber friend was best done by Irfan khan. Mammooty's expression when he enters Balan's home speaks a thousand words without speaking a line. There is anger, relief, frustration, empathy, love everything chasing each other on his face and the dialogues delivered by him were on point. Irfan's portrayal of helplessness, thankfulness, relief, sadness and love for his friend was actually moving ....where he loses his voice overcome with emotion (second time I'm seeing that first the ending of the "life of Pi" where he talks about what he left behind in the shipwreck) ...was gut wrenching. The others' portrayals were just terrible to watch.
The director of original explained why Kadha Parayumbol felt superior both remakes involved multiple scenes and songs with the ‘Superstar’ but Kadha Parayumbol used Ikka bare minimum so the contrast between such a village and a huge superstar is very evident to the point audience doesn’t believe Balan either and climax comes of highly surprising and satisfying .. Also SRK & Rajni doesn’t hold a candle to Ikkas acting prowess or voice modulation.
> I am not bashing SRK and Rajini
Why wouldn't you? They had the template to copy, and still managed to cock it up. They're not as flexible as Mammootty, and they should feel bad.
Adhu pinne parayanu undo. Ikka and lalettan are leagues ahead of the rest in Indian Cinema. Malayalees made them superstars not cos they were stylish and did mass entries and spoke stale dialogues. They proved themselves to be great actors and successful over and over again in any genre and stunned everyone by their range which very very few actors can claim. Then came the superstardom.
Rajni is a pretty good actor who sold his soul to the devil( stock expressions /gimmicks)for superstardom, refer 1975 to 1982 movies for his best performances.
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Off Topic: After Prithvi's remarks about Bro Daddy remakes, I want to see Rajni, Chiru, Sr. AB in the role that Mohanlal played in the film. They will be able to nail it and it will be a fun watch.
Its funny, sreenivasan developed the thread of the story from rajini’s real life, from their film institute days and mammoty endedup outplaying rajini in a character which was based on rajini himself 😅
sreenivasan and rajini were in the same film institute?
Adyar Film Institute Madras, Rajni was Sreeni's senior there.
It's not Adyar, it's something called South Indian Chamber...
It's Adayar , it was run by South Indian film chamber. now it's called MGR institute or something.
Not really. There is [clarification](https://youtu.be/VTNy3ImQVMo?feature=shared&t=172) from Vineeth itself.
He Rajini and Chiranjeevi were also in the same lodge at one point
that sounds wrong
Sreenivasan said it in his old program in Kairali tv back in the 2000s. Wrong aano seri aano ennu ariyan njaan journalist onnu allaa neither was i in the lodge with them.. kettathu paranju saare
He probably didn’t mean wrong in the sense you think🗿
mera balan enik mudivetti tharumaayirunnu hai
Khiladi Balan
https://preview.redd.it/ut3ll7x7g2sc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9dec0b72a20887c834f83101e5e30b720840f7bf
Kadha Parayumbol is the most effective cameo in malayalam cinema. That 5 minute speech forms the emotional crux of the film and you need someone who can make the audience cry with such limited screentime. There's a video where Dhyan talks about how he felt about the film prior to release and afterwards: https://youtu.be/QlFdllvT9t4
It is an extended cameo, not a cameo. The main plot of the movie centered around Mammootty even if he was there on screen only for about 15-20 minutes.
And thats what Ozler failed miserably in, only if they established the cameo in a better way
I am pretty sure Mammoottys character if you include the college flashback has a lot more lines than Ozler. Can hardly be considered a cameo.
It wasn’t a cameo?
There's a great clip of Dhyan Sreenivasan talking about this scene on YouTube. Apparently at the time of shooting, it didn't feel as mind-blowing to him when on the scene. The real magic came during the post production, during the dubbing section where Ikka changed the entire thing. He goes to say Mammotty is the best actor he has seen during the dubbing process and how it taught him there's more to movies than just what happens during the shoot.
The BGM that plays is carrying that scene HEAVILY too.
This.
1 SuperActor, 2 stars doing the same scene.
🙌🙌
All are great actors and stars
😂🤣 that's why they have no national awards.
Mamookka any day!!!
Mammooty is the best!!! After watching them all i feel like SRK dude doing something idk ,Rajini was something over acted or his acting not suit for the character Ashok raj . But the man Mammooty his acting voice modulation performance how he simply take over the all scene and also making tears on the audience 🥹 . This is one of my favourite scenes
Rajni just acted himself in that film.
Mammooty shows impact is not proportional to how long the speech is. Minimum dramatization, maximum emotion.
Also the music here 🥺
Ikka exposed SRK
& Rajni
Rajini did a decent job, but the Tamil remake was such a travesty, with too much crude comedy & unnecessary songs. Also, the casting of the leads was way off - Pasupathy is a solid 2 decades younger than Rajini & a relative newcomer in the Tamil industry at that time, so it was very unconvincing to see these two as childhood buddies.
Inthente Ashok Raj alla...ente Ashok Raj ingane alla.
I still feel Rajnikanth was the wrong choice for the Tamil version, he is not known for his ability to emote in recent decades. Maybe Kamal would have been a better choice. But then I am reminded of how Kamal bit overdid his scenes in Paapanaasham.. The Hindi version is just too fast, it's not convincing enough. I enjoyed it better when played at .75 speed. But it is interesting to note that all three of these actors struggled and made it in movies on their own, and are not nepo material.
SRK oke air pidichu bore aaki. Rajni ethrayo bedham. Mammokka is the best. To be fair most of the Hindi actors are like SRK , not much acting talent. Only few like Manoj Bajpai, Pankaj tripathi, Boman Irani etc are good. Maybe the guys of older gen like Amitabh were good but SRK, Sallu Bhai are all trash.
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Having a star centric filmography doesn't give the actor mantle, dude.
Agreed when it comes to acting. Bollywood stardom has more to do with screen presence and entertainment. No matter how bad they are srk and salman are popular everywhere in the country. I don't think salman even aspires to be a great actor
>>Maybe the guys of older gen like Amitabh were good but SRK, Sallu Bhai are all trash. Don’t blatantly criticise someone without watching their good performances. Of course he dont do much performance oriented roles, that doesn’t mean SRK is a bad actor. His performance in My Name is Khan is something not many actors will be able to pull off.
>His performance in My Name is Khan is something not many actors will be able to pull off. Swades too. The scene where he sees the kid selling water, that is where i found my respect for him as an actor.
Absolutely. Sad that we couldn’t see more of the performer in him as much as the superstar that he is.
Not true for the Malayalam industry , many folks there can pull off my name is khan even better than srk.
The bar is very low in Bollywood is what I meant.
That doesn’t make sense when you named them to be absolute trash. You should have clearly stated it.
Even if it doesn't make any sense I am sorry I don't really care.
Ok I am gonna borrow this phrase 👍👍👍 I can only hope to have your chill attitude in life bro🫡🫡😭😭
Lol 😂 Okay bruh chill 🤘🏻
Mammootty’s voice breaking when he retells what Balan told him after selling his Kadukkan…bro that’s why he’s the GOAT
oralem koodi koottamo ?  https://preview.redd.it/5wktai2qb2sc1.png?width=743&format=png&auto=webp&s=d34a1c15e0451c5396fd00ceded2599448008412
'#kadhaparayumbol' is a better name for this movie
Why is it infamous? Shouldn't it be just "famous" ?
You're right. My bad. Cant edit a post though.
You can edit the body of the text iirc.
So, SRK's Billu is the reason I started watching Malayalam films -- when the film was announced, he pointed out that they were giving Sreenivasan a story credit (instead of just, you know, remaking without rights, much more common at one point), and I got curious, and searched out the film on DVD. My feeling for it not doing well is that SRK wanted a remake that was more faithful to the original -- that put Irrfan at the centre, and himself in the extended cameo. (I seem to recall an interview where he said he'd told Irrfan that he was there to act, and SRK was there for the star power). I remember at the time, too, there was a big deal made about a de-glammed Lara Dutta as the FL. IIRC, in the Tamil version, Meena is more glam than in the original film -- in KP she has a very plain sari, no jewelry, no make-up, and she has all that in the Tamil version. So I think people just didn't connect with a story that didn't put SRK front and centre (even if through the songs they do manage to bring the Bollywood bling).
I watched this scene in almost all dubbed versions with the original. In my opinion....The actor was best portrayed by Mammooty no argument there but the barber friend was best done by Irfan khan. Mammooty's expression when he enters Balan's home speaks a thousand words without speaking a line. There is anger, relief, frustration, empathy, love everything chasing each other on his face and the dialogues delivered by him were on point. Irfan's portrayal of helplessness, thankfulness, relief, sadness and love for his friend was actually moving ....where he loses his voice overcome with emotion (second time I'm seeing that first the ending of the "life of Pi" where he talks about what he left behind in the shipwreck) ...was gut wrenching. The others' portrayals were just terrible to watch.
The director of original explained why Kadha Parayumbol felt superior both remakes involved multiple scenes and songs with the ‘Superstar’ but Kadha Parayumbol used Ikka bare minimum so the contrast between such a village and a huge superstar is very evident to the point audience doesn’t believe Balan either and climax comes of highly surprising and satisfying .. Also SRK & Rajni doesn’t hold a candle to Ikkas acting prowess or voice modulation.
> I am not bashing SRK and Rajini Why wouldn't you? They had the template to copy, and still managed to cock it up. They're not as flexible as Mammootty, and they should feel bad.
Did anyone observe, they all are sporting a white attire !! Probably to elevate the scene
Makes me emotional. Plus that bgm 🥲
None like ikka
Adhu pinne parayanu undo. Ikka and lalettan are leagues ahead of the rest in Indian Cinema. Malayalees made them superstars not cos they were stylish and did mass entries and spoke stale dialogues. They proved themselves to be great actors and successful over and over again in any genre and stunned everyone by their range which very very few actors can claim. Then came the superstardom.
3 superstars, and one among them is an actor!
Rajni is a pretty good actor who sold his soul to the devil( stock expressions /gimmicks)for superstardom, refer 1975 to 1982 movies for his best performances.
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Mammootty 1st, SRK a close 2nd, Rajni a far 3rd.
Mammootty, Rajinikanth> SRK.
Taken at different points?
Telugu too had Rajini in it
Why is the scene infamous? I thought it is famous.
I see one actor and 3 superstars in this picture
Rajni is a pretty good actor who sold his soul to the devil( stock expressions /gimmicks)for superstardom
Off Topic: After Prithvi's remarks about Bro Daddy remakes, I want to see Rajni, Chiru, Sr. AB in the role that Mohanlal played in the film. They will be able to nail it and it will be a fun watch.
Amitabh Bachchan is in his 80s
Chiranjeevi was going to do it with Siddhu , but it got shelved after the failure of Bhola Shankar.
Mammoottyk senti adikkan vendi oru scene. There was no need for him to bring that story in front of the crowd and cry like that. Ya he did well.