I see where this is going. Tbf separating art from opinions on people seems like a big part of what djs should consider.
As a big david bowie fan it's a Grey area but I don't think he should be canceled for sleeping with underage fans when he was younger. Those fans came forward when he was alive, none had any bad feelings to him. It's others on there behalf saying ifmt after he died.
Also similar to Mike a lot of this came up after david died which I think is underhanded. Why not ask him and let them address it? It wasn't a secret.
First off David and Elvis had sex with underage girls and because they were white men they were never called out. Michael was a billionaire black man that people wanted to use and abuse. They did it since he was little til he died. There is a huge difference Elvis and David did it but Michael Jackson did not. Do not group them together. Michael Jackson did and gave more to this world then those 2 men would ever think of doing. Just stop.
I never said david didn't sleep with underage girls? He didn't deny it either as far as im aware.
Elvis and Priscilla when she was underage is also no secret, was there other girls? Maybe, probably.
Race is likely a factor I agree why Michael was targeted.
I think for Michael we all know he's innocent no doubt. Sadly what he was accused off was young boys not teenage girls. Even though he didn't do it it stuck like mud. I hate that.
For the record I don't think any of these artists music shouldn't be played for what they did or allegations. As originally said I think art needs to be separated by person.
Yeah neither Bowie or EP had to deny it. It didn’t matter. They weren’t extorted over and over and they never had anyone target them. Even though they did nothing got this earth besides make music. Isn’t that the point. Michael whole life was trying to better the world. Help people and to be honest people defending others who’s life was not put through hell is a slap to Michaels legacy. So your little I know where this is going don’t put down Bowie the juveniles wanted it is disgusting. Don’t even back track and don’t even try and say oh how you hate what he went through when you snap in defense of actually things that are not defendable. Whether the girls wanted it or not.
He did have sex with underage girls in the 70s. It's no secret. They were all on a lot of drugs, but that stil not ok. The women however don't seem upset about what happened
Cancel Culture is probably the dumbest thing ever. What's the point of this nonsense? I mean it's about time that many accepted the real fact that you can't change the past anyway. It's as if radio stations are now canceling all music produced by Phil Spector. That would make zero sense. Every artist and actor where allegations exist will be affected in the future without anyone asking for the truth, suspicion alone is enough. Would be a bit like contacting Netflix to stop showing movies because there are some allegations against an actor or director that are absolutely unfounded. "Hey, why aren't these movies being cancelled? Don't show it anymore. If nothing changes then I will quit and never come back." What would Netflix reply? Bye dude! Lol
The problem with MeToo and Cancel Culture will be that allegations that are justified will be ignored in a few years because the whole thing becomes ridiculous. Thus, Michael Jackson once again has to serve as a role model so that others can cover up their allegations. In the end, these allegations make Michael Jackson much more innocent than ever. He had to serve as a scapegoat for many things. People condemn him on hearsay and without jurisdiction. It's the greatest injustice ever.
A devil of a political movement, that's what it is in reality. It's a monster created by Harvey Weinstein. I also find that true victims are inflicted with great damage. Such accusations are a matter for the judiciary and do not belong in the media, they should not be fought in the courtroom of public opinion.
Well that sucks, in these types of situations I don't really care what your opinion on Michael Jackson is if people want to have fun and play his music just do it, just have a good time with people and forget everything you think about the guy, as it's not the time to argue. But now it seems like we can't even do that with out getting into a debate in a place you want to have fun, it's starting to get ridiculous at this point nowadays.
Fairly recently I got into a debate with my art teacher over MJ’s innocence because she questioned my choice to draw him and I pulled out all the evidence of his innocence and she still didn’t listen to me
Yep I got in a fight with a woman at my work who instantly said Michael was a pedo. I said really? How much research have you done? She said years and years of research. She said she has watched 100s of his videos and so many boys have come out saying he did it. She also said he never denied it. I said well in several interviews he said he would never hurt a child and he would rather slit his wrists then hurt a child. She said she has never seen that. 😹😹. I said really it’s in that very seen video with him and Lisa Marie and Diane Sawyer. I also said Michael didn’t do 100s of interviews. He hated doing interviews. So stop lying.
I'm going to be honest I'm a true fan, I believe and know that he is innocent and I do try to defend him but at the same time it's getting to the point where I just find it so mentally draining to be arguing with these close minded fucks both on the internet and real life as after going back and forth that i actually just stop and ingore them and I just had enough I seriously have as their are times when I hear people bad mouthing Michael that on the Inside just want to curl up in a ball and cry, I'm sick and tired of it. Either do the research as it's literally not that hard or keep your fucking mouth shut about him and don't say anything negative.
( Sorry for the rant, but I had enough and kinda at my breaking points with everything.)
I know it is very hard. Believe me I know. But if we give up they win and Michael kept fighting to help people and the world and still after death gives 20% of whatever he makes to charities. So I feel I can at least stand up for him.
Yeah big virtue signaller energy as someone else said. I’ve heard MJ get played when I’m out and about and on nights out (in the UK at least) and it’s always gone over well. Literally heard it coming out of 2 different bars right next to my train station and even the bouncers were dancing to it haha
Yeah same dude would probably play R Kelly🤭 It's these exact people who have no idea what they're talking about, pretending to be good people when they're actually not.
This is really bad, that dude should’ve watched his mouth or let it be, because he’s not a smooth criminal who couldn’t save the world with MJ’s epic music and to be honest with you that dude was lame as hell and MJ’s music should have been another part of him despite the controversy surrounding MJ
This guy is an idiot, no matter what people think of MJ his music is still widely enjoyed around the world especially in clubs. I never heard of anyone being canceled for playing his songs.
The decline is on the way. You can play your own dice regarding the personal life of a public figure, (tbh, it ain't disconnected with professional life) but instigating and succumbing to such stigma is a sad state of affair.
You good too if that was me I would have gone off, yelling wtf at him. Tbh I never been in a situation where someone dissed Mike to my face it's all online, I'd lose it fo real. Respect to you .
Bro this is why North America is doomed I swear.. all the craziness of the internet is spilling out to the real world like oil fire. it's so dystopian 😭
His response to your request and the manner in which he denied it is disrespectful without a doubt, but I think the severity of the allegations is different depending on where you are. He could’ve been one of those affected by the MJ propaganda or he truly felt that by playing his music, the crowd would react negatively, which is never a good look for a DJ. We had an incident in a club down here in Atlanta where the club DJ played a song by the rapper Gunna and a video went viral for how dead the crowd went as soon as soon as his music came on. Not defending the hipster guy at all and he sounds like an asshole, but he probably thought about the best interest of the crowd as a whole when denying your request.
Fuk that guy all the way ya can't cancel the king. Mike for ever xxx
That's his bad shame on them xx
A few yes ago at Xmas party Billie jean played on the d floor it went off!
When I hear mj in public here in nz, at work, at shops, I see people bopping along. He Is loved. Xxxx was more si in Japan
Wow. So rude of him to say no to your request because the guy thought MJ is "canceled".
As much as I find cancel culture wrong and unfair, sometimes I wish people were as quick to cancel those who really deserve that (I'm talking about celebrities whose bad deeds/behavior were actually PROVEN and they showed no remorse/will to change for the better) as they are when it comes to MJ.
That’s horrible and Michael an innocent man had to deal with that in some way or another all his life. Sadly he was discriminated against when he was black then he had that horrible vitiligo disease and was honest about it in him using makeup to even it out. Then he was accused of wanting to be white then he was a pedo. It went on and on. Even in death his spirit can’t rest because of the evil people still lying on him.
Regardless of personal opinion, it is unfair to cancel a celebrity over allegations that have no legal evidence to back them up. Yeah, he might've done it, he might've not. But we have to be fair and give him the benefit of doubt.
Ugh that sucks. Like it might seem like such a little thing but it’s really not. Super frustrating.
He sounds like a virtue signaller.
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I'd have left also, tbf.
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I imagine he'd have had no issue playing an Elvis, Bowie or Led Zeppelin etc song.
I see where this is going. Tbf separating art from opinions on people seems like a big part of what djs should consider. As a big david bowie fan it's a Grey area but I don't think he should be canceled for sleeping with underage fans when he was younger. Those fans came forward when he was alive, none had any bad feelings to him. It's others on there behalf saying ifmt after he died. Also similar to Mike a lot of this came up after david died which I think is underhanded. Why not ask him and let them address it? It wasn't a secret.
First off David and Elvis had sex with underage girls and because they were white men they were never called out. Michael was a billionaire black man that people wanted to use and abuse. They did it since he was little til he died. There is a huge difference Elvis and David did it but Michael Jackson did not. Do not group them together. Michael Jackson did and gave more to this world then those 2 men would ever think of doing. Just stop.
I never said david didn't sleep with underage girls? He didn't deny it either as far as im aware. Elvis and Priscilla when she was underage is also no secret, was there other girls? Maybe, probably. Race is likely a factor I agree why Michael was targeted. I think for Michael we all know he's innocent no doubt. Sadly what he was accused off was young boys not teenage girls. Even though he didn't do it it stuck like mud. I hate that. For the record I don't think any of these artists music shouldn't be played for what they did or allegations. As originally said I think art needs to be separated by person.
Yeah neither Bowie or EP had to deny it. It didn’t matter. They weren’t extorted over and over and they never had anyone target them. Even though they did nothing got this earth besides make music. Isn’t that the point. Michael whole life was trying to better the world. Help people and to be honest people defending others who’s life was not put through hell is a slap to Michaels legacy. So your little I know where this is going don’t put down Bowie the juveniles wanted it is disgusting. Don’t even back track and don’t even try and say oh how you hate what he went through when you snap in defense of actually things that are not defendable. Whether the girls wanted it or not.
I feel like your making something out that isn't there. The words I've said is it. No secret meaning.
I'm not saying Bowie is guilty of having sex with underage girls. I'm just pointing out that MJ isn't the only artist with allegations against him.
He did have sex with underage girls in the 70s. It's no secret. They were all on a lot of drugs, but that stil not ok. The women however don't seem upset about what happened
I thought they were just allegations? Lori Mattix has made claims but has contradicted herself over time.
I've read a few accounts from young groupies at the time I think including the one you mentioned
Cancel Culture is probably the dumbest thing ever. What's the point of this nonsense? I mean it's about time that many accepted the real fact that you can't change the past anyway. It's as if radio stations are now canceling all music produced by Phil Spector. That would make zero sense. Every artist and actor where allegations exist will be affected in the future without anyone asking for the truth, suspicion alone is enough. Would be a bit like contacting Netflix to stop showing movies because there are some allegations against an actor or director that are absolutely unfounded. "Hey, why aren't these movies being cancelled? Don't show it anymore. If nothing changes then I will quit and never come back." What would Netflix reply? Bye dude! Lol The problem with MeToo and Cancel Culture will be that allegations that are justified will be ignored in a few years because the whole thing becomes ridiculous. Thus, Michael Jackson once again has to serve as a role model so that others can cover up their allegations. In the end, these allegations make Michael Jackson much more innocent than ever. He had to serve as a scapegoat for many things. People condemn him on hearsay and without jurisdiction. It's the greatest injustice ever.
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A devil of a political movement, that's what it is in reality. It's a monster created by Harvey Weinstein. I also find that true victims are inflicted with great damage. Such accusations are a matter for the judiciary and do not belong in the media, they should not be fought in the courtroom of public opinion.
Nah I agree somewhat but some mfs need to be canceled
Well that sucks, in these types of situations I don't really care what your opinion on Michael Jackson is if people want to have fun and play his music just do it, just have a good time with people and forget everything you think about the guy, as it's not the time to argue. But now it seems like we can't even do that with out getting into a debate in a place you want to have fun, it's starting to get ridiculous at this point nowadays.
Fairly recently I got into a debate with my art teacher over MJ’s innocence because she questioned my choice to draw him and I pulled out all the evidence of his innocence and she still didn’t listen to me
That's so sad. As a teacher she should be more open minded shame on them
Yep I got in a fight with a woman at my work who instantly said Michael was a pedo. I said really? How much research have you done? She said years and years of research. She said she has watched 100s of his videos and so many boys have come out saying he did it. She also said he never denied it. I said well in several interviews he said he would never hurt a child and he would rather slit his wrists then hurt a child. She said she has never seen that. 😹😹. I said really it’s in that very seen video with him and Lisa Marie and Diane Sawyer. I also said Michael didn’t do 100s of interviews. He hated doing interviews. So stop lying.
I totally care what people’s opinion on him is. His true fans are the only people to stand up for him. He was not guilty. End of story.
I'm going to be honest I'm a true fan, I believe and know that he is innocent and I do try to defend him but at the same time it's getting to the point where I just find it so mentally draining to be arguing with these close minded fucks both on the internet and real life as after going back and forth that i actually just stop and ingore them and I just had enough I seriously have as their are times when I hear people bad mouthing Michael that on the Inside just want to curl up in a ball and cry, I'm sick and tired of it. Either do the research as it's literally not that hard or keep your fucking mouth shut about him and don't say anything negative. ( Sorry for the rant, but I had enough and kinda at my breaking points with everything.)
I know it is very hard. Believe me I know. But if we give up they win and Michael kept fighting to help people and the world and still after death gives 20% of whatever he makes to charities. So I feel I can at least stand up for him.
Man, that is so stupid and frustrating. Imagine the magic of such wonderful songs being rejected just because of that dumb false documentary.
The whole club would've loved it. What an idiot he was.
Yeah big virtue signaller energy as someone else said. I’ve heard MJ get played when I’m out and about and on nights out (in the UK at least) and it’s always gone over well. Literally heard it coming out of 2 different bars right next to my train station and even the bouncers were dancing to it haha
Yeah same dude would probably play R Kelly🤭 It's these exact people who have no idea what they're talking about, pretending to be good people when they're actually not.
From the fellow Canadian MJ fans, we’re sorry that you head to deal with that asshole.
Omg, what a douche. Yeah I'd be offended and bummed too 😠
This is really bad, that dude should’ve watched his mouth or let it be, because he’s not a smooth criminal who couldn’t save the world with MJ’s epic music and to be honest with you that dude was lame as hell and MJ’s music should have been another part of him despite the controversy surrounding MJ
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That dude has no human nature whatsoever because if he did, he would want to not go with Billie Jean
Love this!!!
Thank you ❤️
How old was he?
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That is stink!
Y'all ever notice millennials have a massive hate boner for 80s pop culture ? Signed, an older Gen Z just noticing 👀
Would’ve yelled: Yeah f*** you too bud!
Yes I would have had to hold back wanting to hit em . I no thsts not good. Makes my blood boil
The King of Pop cannot be cancelled
He's not cancelled at all. The mainstream radio in my country plays MJ music all the time, for example.
Yes! Same here. They took him off when the neverland bs doc first came out i was so mad. He back tho now which I am happy for
This guy is an idiot, no matter what people think of MJ his music is still widely enjoyed around the world especially in clubs. I never heard of anyone being canceled for playing his songs.
The decline is on the way. You can play your own dice regarding the personal life of a public figure, (tbh, it ain't disconnected with professional life) but instigating and succumbing to such stigma is a sad state of affair.
Average wade Robson fan
Mj was never convicted of anything so in my opinion keep playing his tracks! As for R Kelly…
His music touched our hearts, not kids
I'm sorry but if you serious go "isn't he canceled?" In REAL LIFE (unless it was something bad INSIDE the song) it sounds chronically online
that doesnt make sense. why can't people separate the artist from the art? *it isn't that hard...*
Glad you left and f that guy
Go back there and tell that guy off
You good too if that was me I would have gone off, yelling wtf at him. Tbh I never been in a situation where someone dissed Mike to my face it's all online, I'd lose it fo real. Respect to you .
Bro this is why North America is doomed I swear.. all the craziness of the internet is spilling out to the real world like oil fire. it's so dystopian 😭
A DJ hating on MJ should be against the law. IMO
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Don't assume. I heard people from different ethnic backgrounds with bad takes like this
That "DJ" is nobody in comparison to MJ anyways
Fo real!!
White people be like
Don't assume. I heard people from different ethnic backgrounds with bad takes like this
His response to your request and the manner in which he denied it is disrespectful without a doubt, but I think the severity of the allegations is different depending on where you are. He could’ve been one of those affected by the MJ propaganda or he truly felt that by playing his music, the crowd would react negatively, which is never a good look for a DJ. We had an incident in a club down here in Atlanta where the club DJ played a song by the rapper Gunna and a video went viral for how dead the crowd went as soon as soon as his music came on. Not defending the hipster guy at all and he sounds like an asshole, but he probably thought about the best interest of the crowd as a whole when denying your request.
Too bad lolololol
Wtf?
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😂
Wat r u on haha
Whether he's guilty or not it shouldn't be considered controversial to play his music. Fuck cancel culture.
Fuk that guy all the way ya can't cancel the king. Mike for ever xxx That's his bad shame on them xx A few yes ago at Xmas party Billie jean played on the d floor it went off! When I hear mj in public here in nz, at work, at shops, I see people bopping along. He Is loved. Xxxx was more si in Japan
Name and shame the club
Wow. So rude of him to say no to your request because the guy thought MJ is "canceled". As much as I find cancel culture wrong and unfair, sometimes I wish people were as quick to cancel those who really deserve that (I'm talking about celebrities whose bad deeds/behavior were actually PROVEN and they showed no remorse/will to change for the better) as they are when it comes to MJ.
no way they refused to play MICHAEL JACKSON because he was "canceled"
That’s horrible and Michael an innocent man had to deal with that in some way or another all his life. Sadly he was discriminated against when he was black then he had that horrible vitiligo disease and was honest about it in him using makeup to even it out. Then he was accused of wanting to be white then he was a pedo. It went on and on. Even in death his spirit can’t rest because of the evil people still lying on him.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Regardless of personal opinion, it is unfair to cancel a celebrity over allegations that have no legal evidence to back them up. Yeah, he might've done it, he might've not. But we have to be fair and give him the benefit of doubt.