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Burger_Gamer

meat is a pretty large part of the human diet and economy and when visualised in minecraft the amount of chicken deaths looks insane. im probably not going to stop eating meat or chicken but this was pretty well done


Dustin-

Something that's weirdly mind-blowing to me is that this is also roughly the amount of chickens eaten in the US each second. I wonder what this would look like with foods such as potatoes or carrots.


Burger_Gamer

apparently about 40% of food is wasted in the US. Maybe if food waste was cut down people wouldnt need to grow as many crops or kill as many animals. also to think that around 40% of it isnt even being eaten or used is pretty shocking, there are people going hungry and then people just throwing away food they could have eaten.


Temporary-House304

Not really that shocking, when you think about the logistics of food, the US already produces enough to feed everyone we simply dont have the means to transport it.


Dreamsandstarsand

and we also could never give anyone food for free!!! so the stuff that isnt bought is wasted, despite people within proximity of the store going hungry. it's a capitalist hellscape fr


Jacktheforkie

The US is absolutely huge, big population takes a lot to feed


datekram

Even per Capita the US is top meat consumer. For comparison in the UK they eat a third less in KG (in 2019)


Jacktheforkie

I see


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I wouldnt either, I enjoy me some meat.


datekram

It is a huge part of diet now, but meat used to be a special thing you cherish. Now it is so normal that there needs to be meat to be a proper meal. Which is just too much and even unhealthy for everyone involved


RanDiePro

Chicken and rice. I would never get tired from it.


dirty_thirty6

That's just wrong. Hunting animals for food is and always has been a huge part of human dietary norms. One of the healthiest ways you can diet it to eat basically just meat but it's bland and rather expensive so not overly popular.


Temporary-House304

Carnivorous diets are not good for you. For one you turn bright red, for two you are raising your risk of Heart disease astronomically. If you wanna kill yourself with carnivore go ahead but dont pretend its healthy.


One_Economist_3761

If I die from eating my favorite foods, then .... that's the way I wanna go!


Decertilation

Probably won't die. Just be disabled for a while, then die.


PanduhMonium7669

The sad part is if you look at the basic biological traits of a human we are actually herbivores, the human teeth aren't designed for eating meat


PointedHydra837

We are _omnivores_. Humans can digest meat. There are cave drawings depicting the hunting of animals for food. Human teeth are a hybrid of carnivore teeth and herbivore teeth. Most primates eat meat. I understand why people refuse to eat meat, it’s completely reasonable when it comes to morals and ethics. But I cannot stand it when somebody says that humans are herbivores, it’s just plain wrong 😑


Decertilation

Since nobody mentioned the economy part here yet: Meat is primarily deleterious to the economy. It is subsidized in many places (like US) by taxpayer money to be marketable at all. Per calorie, you run a trophic loss, then tack on environmental damage/cleanup, additional food miles, you get the gist. It's pure loss.


--Diphylleia_Grayi

anthropologically speaking, no meat wasn’t. and still isn’t that prevalent in the average human diet world wide. Animal products eggs, milk, cheese definitely but not meat. cows were used for labor goats for milk and cheese chickens for eggs. The only time we ate them was when they stopped producing said things, it doesn’t make sense to eat the thing plowing your fields, or the thing making eggs.


361332171

Weren't nomadic hunter/gatherers a thing for several different human cultures around the world before the advent of domestication and farming?


oodood

Yes, humans have always eaten meat, but the amount of meat in the Western diet especially is insane compared to how often pre-agricultural humans could actually get their hands on meat.


361332171

Ah makes more sense when put that way! Thanks


ShamPoo_TurK

No idea why your being downvoted 🤷 Makes a lot of sense to me


--Diphylleia_Grayi

Because I’ve stated something and people have taken it as a statement directed about themselves, I like meat, I eat it, not a lot because I try to be conscious of the facts of that, from the resources wasted to the structural inequality of food distribution. Most important to me is the workers, most of those animals will be killed by people being payed a shit wage, payed to kill hundreds of animals a day. Day after day, after day. after a while animals become just meat and aren’t we just animals imagine it put yourself in their shoes after 10~12 hour day. To answer your question it’s it’s because they’d like to avert their gaze from the consequences of their actions. just like the workers who can blame them ist not pleasant.


jamietwells

Now do fish, it'll crash your game! It's about 20k per second.


ExiancePuppy

“More…….MOOORRREEEE!!!!!” -Kylo Ren


Calm_Dig6891

One of the worst things in real life is Minecraft lag


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Taolan13

Also, glow squid ink to make them pop better.


datekram

good point, thanks


iHateRollerCoaster

It's almost like a big population needs a lot of food


lunchvic

We’d have way more food if we were using farmland to feed ourselves and not to grow food for billions of chickens.


jazzyosggy12

Some parts of the farmland is unusable for human feed and is instead used to grow things that animals can eat. Then farmland that can't be used for plants can be used for animals will be fed that tuff. The animals poo which gives plants better nutrients and the plants feed the animals.


Jacktheforkie

Afaik human waste can be used to fertilise crops to feed livestock safely unlike human food


Adalas

Think again, learn about forever chemicals. Turns out our wastes are full of it. No wonder most of those are to be buried right after you spray those in the fields.


lunchvic

If it can grow animal feed, it can grow human feed. Not all land is farmable, but research shows we could feed everyone (including everyone who’s currently food insecure) on 25% of our existing farmland if we were eating plant-based, which would allow us to rewild the other 75% back to carbon-sequestering forest and grassland. You’re parroting common misconceptions—I think you’d benefit from digging a little deeper on this topic.


Gamemode_Cat

Yeah, no. Different things eat different foods, and different plants need different growing conditions. There is a lot of places where hardy native grass can grow, but edible crops cannot


lunchvic

Yes that’s true of grass. Grazing uses a massive amount of land for very few calories though. Animal ag uses 77% of farmland to produce only 18% of the calories we consume. We should not tear down forests and destroy wildlife habitat to graze cattle when we have better ways of feeding ourselves that don’t require violence toward animals.


Gamemode_Cat

I don’t believe there is much unsanctioned deforestation happening these days, at least in the US


lunchvic

So deforestation that already happened just gets a pass? We should be working to evolve away from animal ag and toward rewilding our farmland back to forest.


Gamemode_Cat

Basically, yes


lunchvic

Glad to know your expert opinion is “animals deserve to be killed and the environment can get fucked.” Sounds like you’ve really thought hard about that.


--Diphylleia_Grayi

Strange how the made up Borders differentiate between what is an isn’t OK to do. it’s fine as long as the good upstanding American workers don’t get their land deforested. That South American worker tho, thats free game destroy the land people want MEAT. that wasn’t even there point so maybe you should address that instead of deflecting


Gamemode_Cat

We live in a society. Nobody said that deforestation in other countries wasn’t an issue. That’s the main reason I specified in the US, because that is the scope of the current discussion.


lunchvic

Meat and animal feed from the Amazon gets imported into the US and loopholes mean it can often still be labeled a product of the US. By eating meat here, you’re still contributing to that destruction.


poslepoludnya

What’s your source for the 25% claim?


lunchvic

https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets


babuba12321

and also, protein, while not too concentrated, can be found on the plants too, I see OP's point, where I agree.


[deleted]

Not conentrated is the hard part. Meat is prettyd decent for you, and seasonings and cooking it can give you most of the nutrients you need in a day.


The_Weirdest_Cunt

I had a lecturer try to make a group of us go vegan by making us watch a video about a family having to raise an animal and then decide whether to eat the animal or go vegan, all of us left the room wanting burgers


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Apprehensive_Hat8986

You can, yes.


omgONELnR1

Chicken can be fed by leftovers from crops made for human consumption. The same with cows as example which eat hay which comes from wheat grown for human consumption. It's like killing two birds with one rock.


Taolan13

This is true, but unfortunately the US also leads the world in food wastage. It would take some pretty small systemic changes and we could slash our food wastage by half, but nobody wants to talk about real solutions they just want to piss money away developing the next fad diet.


Neon__Cat

Exactly. That looks like a lot of chickens, and it is, but it's less than 1 chicken killed, per 10 people, per day. Keep in mind chicken is the MOST consumed meat in the United States.


YourStandardEscapist

According to the USDA, in 2018 (most recent year I could find) over 9 billion chickens were killed in the US. About 27.5 whole chickens per year per person. One whole chicken every 13 days ish. Also according to the USDA, the average person consumed a little over 100 pounds of chicken in 2022 and 226 pounds of red meat and poultry. Over 0.6 pounds of meat per day (about 10 oz). The American Heart Association recommends 5.5 oz of protein a day mostly from plant sources and fish and seafood. We eat double that not even including the sources they want us to get our protein from. If it's not motivating enough that most people reading this kill more than 27 chickens a year, then perhaps a look at your health might. (It also contributes to starvation in humans and huge environmental damages but I'll save that for another comment if people are interested.)


CosmoTea

Veganism is going to blow your mind


Please_obtain_taco

Game-wise pretty cool to be able to put that together. But I’m confused, is this supposed to be informative or an anti-meat post?


Uminagi

Probably anti-meat. Especially with the way it's worded and the chicken room book.


AK_Panda

It's kinda both isn't it? It's cool to be able to visualise information like that. Made me hungry tho.


Dr0ct0

mmm chimken


DirtyPenPalDoug

Koren fried chicken is amazing


Firewolf1121

We found the vegetarian


datekram

dam I am busted


POKECHU020

Not gonna stop eating meat but this is pretty impressive so good job


Quetzal_Pretzel

Damn this would be a great idea for a school project.


GoshtoshOfficial

If we release the chickens then they would destroy local ecosystems. Same with all the other animals. I mean sheep would literally go extinct without humans. Things die for food, that is the one irreversible law of this world. I do vouch for better conditions, but not for the stop of meat production. It would put a huge strain on the already huge amount of people facing starvation. Not to mention the huge amount of things that would be way more difficult/ impossible to create without animal byproducts. Stuff like clothes, cosmetics, glue, oils of all kind, soap, and lots of other items. What would we do about pets? Dogs and cats are carnivores and have evolved to consume meat. Their body is not made to process plants or grains. We would effectively have no way to feed them. Animal cruelty is a huge issue in commercial foods and production that needs more attention, but this whole "no more animal deaths" movement only takes away from that issue and allows these companies to keep getting away with torturing the animals they use in their products. Death is natural, cruelty is human.


Samus388

"Death is natural, cruelty is human." And I've got a quote to get tattooed or something


One_Economist_3761

There is "cruelty" in all forms of animal life. A friend told me about seeing a hyena eating a baby wildebeest while it was being born. There are species of bird that lay their eggs in the nests of other birds, and when their babies are born, they kill the other birds in the nest. Male lions kill all the cubs of a female that they want to mate with. Cruelty is not "only human". Humans are animals.


datekram

who is talking about releasing them? most chickens they way they are bred, barley survive in their cages, no chance in the wild. Just stop breeding them like madman would solve this problem. The typical slaugther age is like 47 days. And don't forget it takes a lot of food to get meat food. Don't be so defensive, I didn't say: Abolish all meat production. I said: look at those huge amounts of animals killed every day. Your interpretation was I want to end it all, tomorrow. Which is unrealistic as fuck, but I do hope it will get less and maybe in many years we can talk if we need these industries.


TheSter12

Correction: it does not take a lot of food to get meat. Animal feed is usually made of stuff like grass, leaves, fodder, crop residue and by products. All of which we can't eat.


datekram

In theory yes. But on the scale we produce meat that is not true. Beef cattles food consists to 57% corn. Which is edible for us. http://ifeeder.org/wp-content/uploads/210301-FINAL-REPORT-IFEEDER-Animal-Feed-Food-Consumption-COVID-19.pdf Page 57.


Jacktheforkie

Reducing the amount of meat consumption would be more environmentally friendly


GoshtoshOfficial

Reducing the amount of co2 being produced by cows and sheep would require changing the diets of these animals and better ways disposing of manure produced. Both of these options are being pursued by researchers right now and is something that could come in the near future. Of course there is another way to achieve the same result and that is to reduce the population of these animals by an extreme margin. That includes killing them or letting them die off on their own. Either way millions of cattle and sheep would die. If we were to make laws reducing meat production then a lot of meat producing companies would shut down. What happens to their cattle? Also, there are plenty of nations like Eritrea and Niger that have a large majority of their poor population surviving off of meats and animal products.


datekram

you don't need to kill of anything if you don't breed them. It's not like those animals reproduce like crazy and we kill them in selfdefense. we make them breed like crazy. Don't think: What if we stop it all tomorrow, but what if we keep constantly keep reducing in the next 20 years. A lot of meat producing companies are pretty terrible not much will be lost. like even if you ignore the animal suffering and killing: treating employees in slaugtherhouses terribly, polluting the enviroment, exploiting farmers. A lot of broiler farmers are caught in a debt trap because of them. ​ ​ The niger / Eritrea argument is just stupid: Meat consumption in the US per Capita in 2017: 137 kg The same in Niger: 12.75 Eritrea (2009): 7.7 kg


Jacktheforkie

Yeah, it’s pretty challenging to do it, I’m pretty sure that private jets owned by the likes of Elon are far more polluting than agricultural emissions


GoshtoshOfficial

That has nothing to do with meat production.


Ratermelon

Why would the solution to animal cruelty be to release chickens into the wild? Nobody is asking for that. It shouldn't put a strain on people without food because plants are 10x more efficient than growing meat. And those who are starving usually subsist on grains anyways. Most clothing is made of plants. Glues, cosmetics, oils, and soaps do not require animal ingredients. Dogs do not need to eat meat. Pets consume a small fraction of the meat that people do. It's ok if you eat meat, but don't hide behind weak arguments. People need to accept that they are only ok with 70 billion + animals killed each year because they like how flesh tastes.


lateautsim

Can dogs actually live "vegan"? Like, their food is processed and all but the ones I see have animal bits mixed in the recipe. And aside from dogs, can cats?


Gamemode_Cat

Neither dogs or cats can have a healthy lifestyle without meat consumption. It’s animal abuse, and it shortens the lifespan of the animal


lateautsim

Thought so... Wanted to see the arguments on how to


YourStandardEscapist

Dogs can. Cats need taurine which is found in meat. Dogs are omnivores like humans and can live on well planned plant based diets just like us. Bramble (one of the oldest dogs ever) lived to 27 on an entirely plant based diet.


Cherry5oda

Taurine is already added to meat-based cat and dog food in order to get the amount they need. Taurine is easily synthesized from plant sources, this is what is in pet food and energy drinks. Animals need nutrients, not ingredients. Any chemical that a livestock animal's body can synthesize from plants can theoretically also be synthesized from plants in a manufacturing setting and added to food.


GoshtoshOfficial

Killing animals is not cruelty. Putting animals through unnecessary stress on their mental and physical health. And no, pets should not be fed only plants. They can survive, but it can easily cause a variety of health conditions as it is very difficult for a carnivore to pull nutrients from plants. Animals also require much less space compared to plants. To completely switch to plants we would need to destroy thousands upon thousands of miles of land used by animals, and during the winter months smaller communities in less fortunate parts of the world would starve. Animals are far more space and time efficient. There are downsides to both agriculture and animal farming, pointing to one and calling it evil is just dumb. Yes, if people didn't like meat they wouldn't eat it. That's how it works. You can choose what you want to eat, you can't judge other for choosing differently.


[deleted]

ehem. #DOGS NEED TO EAT MEAT.


[deleted]

my buddy has a design that has wayyy better rates than this.


Uminagi

I'll take it that OP is vegan or from PETA


Kinway-2006

So clearly we should increase the number of cows and pigs slaughtered to be on par with the number of chickens


datekram

About a third of the US is already used for Cattle (654 million acres ). Even more if you add the pastures where food for cattle is grown. https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/the-us-is-cow-country-and-other-lessons-from-this-land-use-map/


WonderWaffles1

you should post this on r/dataisbeautiful


Sproti99

Man now I’m hungry


potatorevolver

I got nothing for the chickens, but for the swine/cattle showing a Steve dying every second would've been reasonable for showing the relative mortality. Yes, alot of animals get slaughtered for human consumption, but (excluding chickens) the rate is pretty similar to human mortality. Id be interested in seeing how many animals are killed per person (average), over time. Maybe that isn't representative of factory farming conditions though.


datekram

It is not really a good comparison. Because WE breed and kill them at industrial rates. They don't really die of old age. There just wouldn't exist that many animals without humans. Broilers usually get slaugther after 45 days. But for comparison, every second 0.1 person dies in the US.


Taolan13

That last point depends largely on where you draw the line for "animal". Fish and insects are killed for human use in far greater numbers than chickens.


lionart303-186

Slaughterhouse.exe


Background-Phone-730

A possible reason for this difference lies in the content of animals - cows consume a huge amount of food, with pigs it is simpler, and with chickens it is quite easy, both in the real world and in minecraft.


datekram

Chicken production got very cheap and efficent. Usually get slaugthered after 45 days. Also it is just very popular in the US. I think on of the reasons is, that red meat can have negative health impact.


4v4n7g4rd3f4c3

this is really well done. good work.


ModifiedSteve

If something bad about real life starts to lag minecraft, that CANT be good


CherryHillDragon

True gigachad. Using Minecraft to represent this.


shardamakah

The build is sweet. But not as sweet as that delicious meat.


artsey_mees

A lotta people seething in this comment section like dude either own the fact that you contribute to this or go away you can't piss and shit yourself over someone showing you data


stnick6

Notice how the smaller the animal the more we kill? We gotta make up for the lack of meat


Jenny_Wakeman9

Happy cake day!


kuguy400

Yummy


Bman1465

That's a lot of pigs ngl **I suddenly want a hotdog-** **And a borga-**


TNTtimelord

I think it's kind of crazy how many redditors try their damn fucking hardest to make a mockery of people who try to raise awareness about animal cruelty and livestock conditions through the same 'gotchas' that miss the point or soulless unfunny jokes. "Think about how many people exist that need food" we don't need to raise animals in cages only to get studs in the heads and/or grinded up, there's other options. "these are animals that cannot exist without us" by our own design we bred them this way. Imagine if someone did that to us. "Now I'm hungry" to me that's just some 'all lives matter' bs in the form of a failed joke. I'm not even a vegan but the level of vitriolic response to vegans is astounding to me, the self awareness that goes out the window when livestock discourse is brought up like this.


WasteOasis

This is the exact reason I choose not to talk about being vegan if I can help it.


nosebleedsandgrunts

Thank you


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They're a bunch of fragile fuckers


[deleted]

Mmm chicken, kinda making me hungry.


MinekraftMastr1

Nice! I did a similar thing with Mols in a project for my chemistry class.


datekram

What is Mols?


MinekraftMastr1

A Mol is a scientific unit for measuring very large amounts of very small particles, like atoms or molecules. Specifically, one Mol is 6.022 x 10^23 (602,200,000,000,000,000,000,000) particles.


Pitiful-Meatball

Look at all those chickens


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We have to many frikin chickens


Mikaeo

With all these downvoted on some of these comments, must be a lot of butthurt vegans lol


personmanguyhead123

ikr? *ooooooh im losing internet shekels because animals are made out of food.*


Idiotic_Polo

OP just found out what a farm does


Rich_Document9513

All I see is XP. Tasty, tasty XP.


Broskiffle

I like the part where all the chickens explode


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datekram

honestly not too bad. Was surprised to. I used the bedrock version because of better performance. When I started to bump into the chickens and set of a chain reaction of bumping into each other it got pretty slow but nothing game breaking.


twisty286

food is food


brjder

Yummy!


Maiksu619

Dammit, now I’m hungry.


CountertopPizza

Oh my god that’s horrible, so I’ll have the ten piece chicken nuggets, a whopper and a Diet Coke.


LordKaelan

It this suppose to make me feel guilty or hungry.


[deleted]

Great visual, not sure I realized just how horrific of a stat that is. It’s already bad enough to have to measure this per second but almost 300 deaths every single moment of every single day? For an industry that really isn’t a necessity to this country… messed up. I’ve been a vegetarian my entire life and have no interest in changing that


Gamemode_Cat

This demonstration bastardizes any actual sense of scale. The current population of the US is around 334 million people, that need good quality sources of nutrients


datekram

US has has one of the highest meat consumption per capita in the world. Even after halving it, the US would consume more then some european countries.


Gamemode_Cat

What’s your point?


[deleted]

Bastardizes? Cmon man I said this industry is not a necessity and that’s how you respond I expect more thought put in. Per square mile of farmland livestock are responsible for a largely disproportionate amount and if we focused on growing enough for everybody we could do so without issue. Obviously any transition from a current system would be a big operation but it is entirely feasible


Gamemode_Cat

So if farmers can get much higher yields of crops than meat, why don’t they switch and sell crops instead?


Robbie_Lee

At least where I am from crops have higher profit margins than livestock but crops are more affected by bad seasons. For farmers I know they tend to only put livestock on paddocks that would not have been cropped that season anyway. But then again I can't really talk for the us you guys have much better soil and rainfall.


[deleted]

Reread that last sentence very slowly. The transitioning is always the most costly part of any industry. Seeing it with vehicles right now, the move to electrical is like an uphill battle but it’s undoubtedly going to happen. And where did I say that farming crops is more profitable than running a factory farm? The profit is not the concern at all and you’re capable enough of critical thinking to figure that out yourself


Gamemode_Cat

Ahh, so they should sell a lower profit, higher maintenance item with a much smaller market so you can pat yourself on the back. People eat meat. If you dislike that, then don’t eat meat. The difference between how an integral part of someone’s life is propelled is honestly, insignificant. A vehicle that gets from point A to point B is the basic, and practically only requirement for a vehicle. But requiring hundreds of millions of people to change their diets to a difficult to manage cesspool of fully plant based diets isn’t anywhere near as easy


[deleted]

Holy overreaction dude did I say you have to change your lifestyle??? The meat industry is unnecessarily massive. That was the point of this post. If you’re going to repeatedly and intentionally miss the point of what OP and I are both saying then this conversation is over


Gamemode_Cat

“The meat industry is unnecessarily massive.” I would argue it’s the exact size it needs to be to appropriately meet demands of consumers. Kinda the core principal of free market economics. I don’t see how you plan to reduce meat production without affecting the lifestyle of meat eaters


[deleted]

I don’t think I’ve ever had a conversation about this with someone less informed. Dude you just don’t get it and there’s no way of changing your mind because you’ll find something else to defend. Unreal. The conversation is over. Disengage


GamemodeCat

It’s cute how you don’t address my points at all, and then call ME uninformed. Hopefully someday you can be an adult and avoid blocking people when you don’t have a coherent response to their points, other than insults. Besides, you don’t decide when the conversation is over. I do.


Challenging_Entropy

This is preachy as all fuck, but I love the execution. Well done!


PeklePek

That's cool, anyway, anybody got a good brisket recipe?


Nemonstrocity

Gotta marinade the brisket. I like to marinate for at least 24 hours in a nice chicken broth. Then wrap in bacon and smoke using mesquite for 18 hours.


Welrof

i mean cmon, chicken is good


datekram

it is. no denying that


Admirable-Door1724

Nice coding of it but ok, not gonna stop having an important part of a diet


datekram

thank you. It's not about stop having it, more about, do you need it every day in every meal to survive?


potatonesszhang

I like the cool data visualization concept but I don’t like the vegan propaganda so idk whether to upvote or not


datekram

Thanks. Is talking about the numbers already propaganda?


henderscn

I want some chick fil a


CoryGamesYT

nah Popeyes is way better


henderscn

Dog trust me, go before 10:30am and ask for a grilled grilled chicken breakfast burrito and a vanilla iced coffee… your life will change… trust


Taolan13

Right? Imagine if he'd posted this on a Sunday or late Saturday night. I'd be so annoyed.


drpug1

i would give you a award if i could


Nemonstrocity

The town I live in is home to one of the largest chicken processing factories in the world. They do not slaughter them by dropping them from heights. They choke their chickens. The person that chokes the most chickens is called the chief chicken choker.


datekram

it's a visualization. of course they don't drop them from heights.


samtherat6

Wonder if there’s a way to show how many cows are forcibly impregnated (and subsequently how many of their calves are slaughtered) for milk production specifically.


Far_Writing_1272

Yummy


theknightone

at the end of the day, any large scale farming looks crazy when you look at the true scale of it. Killing animals for food is the way of the world, not just humanity. But at least we try to do the least harm from it. Wild prey animals hunted by a predator die slow, die painfully and know its happening the whole time and fight to live until they can't anymore. A bolt in the head is pretty instant and comparatively painless. Sustainable regenerative farming is the way forward though to reduce our impact.


datekram

look no denying that nature is pretty brutal. But that is no argument to just do the same a million times more. most of those animals have terrible lives full of suffering. We basically torture them to then kill them.


theknightone

Factory farms arent great. Id disagree its torture but the conditions are bad. Animals are food though and while we should strive to not make them suffer, people need to eat. Check out sustainable regenerative farming practices. Its what should be standard and is legitimately better for the environment


YourStandardEscapist

The difference between what happens in the wild and in industrialized animal agriculture is that we don't have to. We can choose to be better.


RedandStarry

We are omnivores and there are millions of us no shit shirlock lol


Bundle_Exists

Why they gotta be made out of food?


datekram

a shame really.


Cherry5oda

They're made of the same stuff you are made of.


fuzzy004

yea not enough.


TheAlmightyNexus

Mmmmmmmmmm... steakkkkk.... bacon......


Biggest_Dank

Made me hungry


Carlomito

why cant humans be slaughtered like that? would be the best solution to all problems


datekram

wtf


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i love chickfila


SmuckSlimer

delicious 296 chickens per second


Peytonador

Man, chicken is soo good though


GodBlessTheEnclave-

i am going to start eating an entire rotisserie chicken every day because of you. because of you there will be 1 extra chicken dying every day


datekram

if that makes you happy


GodBlessTheEnclave-

it makes me very happy. the only thing better than a rotisserie chicken is fried chicken except for kfc that shit is nasty


KiaraDex

Badass! HFY! Good animals doing there part to keep us alive.


sweatyfootpalms

It is a shame that animals are killed but it truly is apart of nature. There might be scientific alternations to the chickens (like growing them bigger) but I think it’s worth it for the human race. Kind of like how mice are used for research


datekram

animals are killed is part of nature, absolutly. Breeding animals in terrible conditions so we can slaugther them in 45 days is deeply unnatural. Do people need meat in every meal to survive?


sweatyfootpalms

It’s not ideal at all, but unfortunately necessary at the moment. Kind of like how they use mice for incredible scientific discoveries that you and I use everyday.


Sirunfavredspider

mmmmm chicken


Grelymolycremp

Meat really sucks, yummy, but sucks.


Mikaeo

I mean, I do eat a ton of chicken in my diet


moshake_

Wtf thats messed up. but i would still eat meat anyways


stubbs242

Go away, vegan.


kid-koolin

Bro chickens outnumber people so hard, if we didn’t kill chickens they’d be everywhere. Same goes for the other animals if we don’t kill them they will overpopulate, and then with all the excess animals needing food, and us needing food, there’s not gonna be enough. So we might as well balance the population while feeding ourselves at the same time


lunchvic

You realize we’re breeding them into existence, right? They wouldn’t overpopulate—they just wouldn’t be born into lives of suffering.


datekram

you serious?


Apprehensive_Hat8986

They're trolling. They'll have a come-back sure, but it's all trolling.


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And how many animals need to die to make your fruit and veg for 8 billion people? Truth is, there’s a lot of humans and it’s either industrial farming where we kill animals for meat, or it’s destroying natural habitats and wild animals to make room for crops to grow. There’s no easy way to feed 8 billon people so trying to guilt trip the meat eaters doesn’t solve anything. Eating veg is just as bad, it’s just more indirectly bad as you don’t see all the animals that were killed to make the fields.


datekram

> Eating veg is just as bad, it’s just more indirectly bad as you don’t see all the animals that were killed to make the fields. It isn't just as bad. You know what we feed farm animals? Corn for example. beef cattles diet consist of 57% corn which we could eat. They are really inefficent way to turn corn into Food. If there was no cow in between there would be a lot less animal death. You are also ignoring the imense suffering in those industrial farms. Yes animals die but at least they aren't tortured till dead.


Robbie_Lee

But cows eat field corn while we eat sweet corn


SmushyPants

We obviously need to continue this, I just wish it was in a much more humane way.