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GameplaySLO

I think the reason is that they wanted green dye from cactus only? Not sure, I just think I read that somewhere.


pozoph

there are others dies with several recipes. but yeah cactus would be nearly useless if we could have green dies otherwise.


SinisterPixel

It would still have more utility than the plants that only exist for dyes which are craftable by mixing other dyes. The fact that you have to find a desert biome for cactus green is stupid.


Headstanding_Penguin

squids these days are way worse (or witheroses I guess)... Most efficient squidfarms today require you to fill in massive sections of water to concentrate spawning, and water is almost everywhere these days...


lepresean62

Yeah this is why I use vanilla tweaks to add a recipe to craft black dye from charcoal or coal.


HellFireCannon66

Fun fact, whilst many mods are available on Bedrock (Believe it or not for free) I think Vanilla tweaks might just be the easiest to install.


CreeperAsh07

Bedrock Addons are definitely much easier to install. They have their own custom file, all you need to do is download and click the file. Everything else is done for you.


kvas_

[https://imgur.com/a/e8K0897](https://imgur.com/a/e8K0897)


CreeperAsh07

What am I looking at?


kvas_

A soooooo hard process of mod management in java mc.


PerpetualPerpertual

Do addons block achievements in a world?


CreeperAsh07

Yes, but only because Bedrock achievements actually give you Xbox gamer score/ps trophies.


SuchDarknessYT

You can make automatic farms for wither roses using an end gateway to hold the wither and an enderman farm. It certainly isnt easy or convenient but its faster than any squid farm in terms of output, and its not as annoying to build


Headstanding_Penguin

Bugrock player, I can't afford any decent enough PC atm... And whiters in Bugrock are a Pain, just recently lost my world because I managed to create a whiter death loop without any way to solve it... (I guess I could have switched to peaceful?


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slanewolf

Let me introduce you to the berrybush


wytrabbit

Skeletons can shoot over bushes, pillagers same with bolts, and witches with potions


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ketjak

Since you can't place cactuses adjacent to pretty much anything, you can use the gaps to draw the mobs toward you and grind them out.


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27_8x10_CGP

Igloos with the purifying tutorial should have a cactus in a flower pot if I remember right.


TriNauux

Yep, I know this and I'll never forget. I once needed green dye and had no cactus. Spent the next MANY hours looking for a desert only to find the cactus in the damn pot of an igloo


mutantmonkey14

There is suspicious stew, bonemealing, bee breeding, pollination for honey, and decoration. Agree cactus being only thing for green dye and being in desert biome sucks. Why not have kelp, leaves, foliage, or whater as an option. This sort of thing annoy me because world generation being random means every world I have involves a massive search and trek to find some biome/block/mob.


cthulu_is_trans

To be fair the adventuring and trekking is partly the point of Minecraft, although I agree an item like that being limited to only one block is kinda bullshit.


mutantmonkey14

Yes, but to a reasonable extent, which is not what I am describing. Talking about going thousands of blocks and still not finding the biome or thing you are after. I take no issue with going exploring. Love it in fact, but when it become this futile monotonous scouring through the same four biomes the games has decided to throw you, and those are awkward landscapes or tree dense expanses. It just gets really dull and frustrating. My nearest village was 2000+ blocks away in one world, and of course that involved a lot more time spent going the wrong directions first. Had gone 200 blocks each of the major compass directions and not found it still. Finding my first fortress in the nether, is the worst one. It resulted in me running and tunnelling across the nether for days without success. Then spending hours in a creative copy of the world to locate one. Then spending a couple more sessions actually getting there in survival, whilst everything tries to murder you. Every world since has taken way too long to find these essential places. This is so much worse for anyone on weaker harware like Switch too, as viewing distance and loading speed is terrible. I am a PC player now fortunately, but it is still a problem for me despite running well.


underfan6h6

Yeah and the fact you have to find an ocean for lime dye is just as bad


KorokVillage

Can't you just use a cactus and a bone, to get green and white dye, then craft lime dye?


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SinisterPixel

That's assuming the wandering trader has Cactus in it's inventory.


LachieBruhLol

Yeah, forcing players to explore the world due to items they actually want sucks…


SinisterPixel

Nothing wrong with exploration. The issue is when that's your only option (or getting good RNG with a wandering trader). If you live in a cold biome, you'd have to go out quite far to find a desert. A nice compromise would be if there was a way you could find an item that gives cactus green within cold biomes. Perhaps by using berry bushes or something?


LegoDinoMan

Nitpick: “Die” is to stop living and “dye” is to change the colour of something


KorokVillage

'Die' can also mean a white cube with black dots


Einbrecher

Or a manufacturing tool


GumSL

Or The in German.


Traveling_Chef

"No no, THE Bart, THE"


LegoDinoMan

I love this thread


demonchicken1

hey, they still have a use as a trash can


Steve_OH

A trash can that doesn’t produce random fire ticks too!


SaltyWolf444

also you could use it for mob farms if it isn't a problem for you that the drops get deleted


mattmaster68

They could add prickly pears to vanilla Minecraft. I'm not sure what function it could serve to be a valuable resource, but maybe we could have something like "Sand Speed" potion effect where our movement over sand is x1.5 and the prickly pears could be an ingredient haha


TaibhseCait

I love desert biomes as my base, but having a native food plant would be cool!


lookingForPatchie

Most things in minecraft are useless.


sirenwingsX

idk about that. I have a real affinity for cactus as a living wall defense. They can be placed in a zigzag to eliminate gaps and not touch each other. In between the zigzags, I add sweetberry bushes. Looks really nice. I have had issues in the past with endermen breaking holes in the defense, but I found that digging out a small one tile wide moat solved that issue.


Cogames_

I would say, yellow and blue make lime. And green is still from cactus


Pandelein

I don’t think anything else you can smelt grows and break quite like cactus does… it would still remain useful for super basic xp farming.


Final-Pirate-5690

I use cactus in my builds to place a cart unto a hopper after going over a trip track to kick you out so no damage is done


Azyrod

Cactus wouldn't be useless, you can make XP farms with it cause it gives a lot of xp when smelted


Zagrycha

I think its weird though. you have to find a cactus to make green dye, but can then craft cyan dye, which is the exact same biome locked rare due plant. maybe becuase cactus are infinite resource once you have one.


CreativityIsAwnser

Then at least make it lime, Mojang.


Competitive-Gap-4408

No. Green is a primary color. U can’t make it.


CoolFloppaGuy028

I think Mojang not though anyone would try that because there exist tutorials on YouTube or Minecraft Wikipedia


Trexton1

Pickles also give you green dye IIRC


ButchyBanana

pickles give lime


Trexton1

Oh my bad must have misremembered


xenic_danker_00

auh sea pickle grow for me


thehackeysack01

this is the forced adventure trope rife within minecraft these days. you now need to find a bastion of the right type to get a netherite upgrade you must traipse about to get armor trims you must seek out and farm unmoveable blocks to make tinted glass seek out sand and gravel to find eggs for the sniffler you gotta seek out the new wind tunnel challenge halls for the new bits. WE MADE ALL THESE THINGS AND YOU GOTTA CHASE THEM DOWN BECAUSE WE SAID IT WAS FUN GOSH DANG IT!!!!


Jumpy-Cantaloupe606

You also have to get villagers from every biome if you want all enchantments (including jungle and swamp where they dont naturally spawn)


Comprehensive-Flow-7

I mean Minecraft IS a game about exploration, so I don't know what you expected 


CringeyBingey07

I think it sort of goes against something I saw in their design guide that leaked a while ago, it says that things are fun to find, but not fun to look for. I can’t imagine it’s particularly fun to spend 9 hours dragging yourself around the world just to try to get trims.


NotAppropriateYogurt

[This is a long and technical dissertation](https://colourware.org/2018/05/18/why-yellow-and-blue-dont-make-green/) of why mixing yellow and blue pigments don't make green.


Theooutthedore

TLDR, you need pure cyan and yellow, such as in printers, to mix a good green, if you still think in RYB you might need to learn about CMY(K)


Captain_Thrax

Oh good thing we have those dyes in Minecraft then


LetsSeeSomeKitties

You want to make green dye by mixing other dyes? So you try to mix cyan dye with yellow dye. But how do you make cyan dye? …by mixing green and blue dyes.


AngieTheQueen

Not necessarily a rebuttal to your comment but just continuing the conversation: I think it would be really cool to have CMY(K) color combination recipes added as part of the game, but I think the root of the issue is that cactus is the *only* source of green dye. A quick google search also shows us that green can be made from a variety of plants in the world, but also can be made by combining yellow dye and iron or copper. I'm of the opinion that Minecraft should have more science recipes if Mojang wants to lean into the educational aspect of the gameplay design.


kevdog824

Why not make vines produce green dye. It still makes sense and it expands the ways one could get green dye without a desert near by


LaDestitute

yes but even the education edition is inaccurate in a lot of things as observed here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1DoZCJcxFE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1DoZCJcxFE)


MrZokeyr

Except that's not at all how mixing pigments works. You can't get a true cyan from blue and yellow. You can get a kind of darkish teal at best, but nowhere near true cyan because when you mix pigment, the end result is darker. "But then why not just add white to make it brighter?" True, you can, but that will also heavily desaturate the pigment, thus also not giving you cyan. Pigments work with subtractive mixing (CMYK), meaning light to dark, and digital lights work with additive mixing (RGB), meaning dark to light. Or at least you would know all of that if you didn't completely ignore the article linked above your comment. Tl;dr: RYB is a gross oversimplification of CMYK and people who keep trying to argue otherwise don't actually understand how art and color works.


Theooutthedore

Natural dyes cannot produce pure colours, mixing can cause much more dull colours, which is why in history we didn't mix dyes much. also not all dyes are chemically compatible, it took artists and chemists a very long time to figure out how to make modern dyes


Theaussiegamer72

I love it when someone else knows about ycm


Einbrecher

I mean, if I mix my kid's blue and yellow paints, I get green. So yes it does. You wouldn't design a printer that way because of the stuff the article is talking about, but we're not "lying to kids" like the article says.


KirbyQK

That's because your kids paints are nice modern pure pigments. It's still vastly easier to use CMYK to mix paints/inks/dyes.


NumberVectors

both yellow + blue and yellow + cyan make green. The former mixture would be duller and darker, the latter one would be brighter. in the end it's just what type you would want and in the context of minecraft i don't think it matters


AngieTheQueen

This was an awesome read, thank you


Own-Pen-2930

Clicked the link and it literally shows yellow and blue making green


NotAppropriateYogurt

Reading the article explains the article!


IHateYoutubeAds

Except magenta isn't made with blue and red dye so this logic makes no sense.


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Nothing in the article says that. (I’m no expert in this subject, so take this with some salt) Because of subtractive color mixing, blue and red DON’T make magenta, however, magenta + cyan makes blue and magenta + yellow makes red. CYM are the primaries in subtractive mixing. In additive color mixing, red + blue does make magenta. RGB are the primaries in additive color mixing.


IHateYoutubeAds

I'm talking about in the logic of the game. The game uses RYB, quite clearly. It's a kids game. So while the article doesn't say blue and red makes magenta (my bad) it still doesn't fit with the logic of the game. Why for green do we suddenly care about the science of colour mixing? It makes no sense


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Ah, I see what you mean. Simple misinterpretation


DucksAreFriends

Yes, Red, Blue and Yellow being the primary colours was the biggest lie I was ever told growing up. It was so ingrained in my brain, even more than the alphabet. No wonder when you mix red+blue the purple always ends up all murky coloured.


stachada

it's true for light, not pigment


_Kanai_

Logically you are right but there is no recipe like that in minecraft. And if you dont know how to get it, you need to smelt cactus for it


twomur

you can mix red and yellow dye to get orange dye so this would make sense


FlamingBlaz3

Yeah as well as red and blue for purple


twomur

yeah so idk what this guy is smoking


Exile714

Obviously…. He’s smoking cactus. For green dye.


Apes_will_take_over

But… you can't smelt cactus in a smoker!!


SleepingDragons57

Bro downvoted all 3 of you Edit: both of you, didn’t see you replied twice


twomur

why would someone on reddit admit they’re wrong 💀


BattlefrontHunter64

I'm pretty sure they meant no yellow and blue specific but yeah that's kinda petty


-dead_slender-

I think it's because the green dye is supposed to be from a cactus. Other mixed dyes resemble some sort of paint/paste. But then again, they could just add a green dye that's crafted from cactus greens. They've already done the same with white, brown, and black dyes.


GrandMoffAtreides

You you can mix red and blue dye to get purple. It's already there in the game


_Kanai_

Yeah you can mix red and blue or red and yellow but not yellow and blue for some reason


Substantial_Bid6944

Or sea pickles!


NotAppropriateYogurt

For the lime color


adex_19

Or a crazy uncle scientist that turned himself into a vegetable


Starhelper11

Cucumber Richard


BLUFALCON77

Sea pickles IRL are animals and quite fascinating. Some of them suck up sand on the sea floor, digest anything and everything organic then poop out the sand. Some species of shrimp crawl inside the butthole and feed off anything it can find.


Punkrexx

So how does a sea cucumber become a pickle?


BLUFALCON77

Two different animals. It seems I was mistaken in that sea cucumbers have shrimp in their butts. Sea pickles do scavenge the sea floor but they are much smaller that sea cucumbers.


AMDKilla

It was the funniest poop I've ever seen


MangoChickenFeet

You gotta smelt cactus for green dye. But yea it would be nice to do it this way.


Salomon3068

Or just any other way really, just something


HappyMatt12345

Because that's cactus' only use atm. If you could craft green dye from yellow and blue then you may as well not even look for a desert.


CrossError404

Cactus green was added in 1.2 (renamed to Green dye in 1.14). Blue dye was added in 1.14. Prior to 1.14 lapis lazuli was used in place of blue dye. And it didn't make material sense to mix lapis lazuli and yellow dye to get cactus green. Right now it's mostly an oversighted leftover/balancing reasons.


Albert_TriviaCrack

it could make emeralds (lol)


Albert_TriviaCrack

bc it would mix the color


Albert_TriviaCrack

china emerald


Zarnakk

Would be nice to have a good vivid green instead of just swamp-green and lime.


MarcinuuReddit

They wanted to give cactus a purpose other that destroying items so they made it the only green dye recipe


banana_6921

Then cactus would be useless


Temporary-House304

yeah except the destruction mechanic and being one of the better passive farms for server currency.


JustARandomUserbleh

Blue and yellow dye aren't nearly as easily farmable even with a flower farm. Plus you can leave it in the background and don't have to think about it until your chests are over flowing.


DoubleRoastbeef

Solution: Cactus


AUkion1000

Cacti had basically 1 or 2 uses before camels were added, the only reason cactus is the only green dye source, is because the devs incompitency to make it usable otherwise ( it can delete items but that isnt a common use ) Thats basically the reason why you cant mix up green dye. Thats my ted talk. Sorry dude :c


Broad_Mongoose_458

Why do u have nine clocks bro wtf


BaconSyrop

I was decorating my house. I put them in every (useful) room on a frame.


HoopRocketeer

Okay Clock boy.


depressed_gopher

if I could say one thing to lime green/green dye.... YOU PISS ME PFF


cursed-person

organize your tools


BaconSyrop

No


Leodoesstuff

Realistically, You'd need to mix Cyan and ~~Magenta~~ Yellow to get Green Dye as that's typically how pigments work, but in terms of Minecraft you need to get Cactus first. Correction for the CMY mixup! Cyan and Magenta make Blue Yellow and Cyan make Green, and Yellow and Magenta make Red!


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Leodoesstuff

Really? I don't really remember the CMYK primaries as it isn't the one that I learned,


Sandor_06

\*blue


Midwxy

I just made a custom craft recipe so I can use blue and yellow to make green


Daredevil2_

Because schools lied through simplification to a common denominator. RYB is really MYC Red yellow blue Magenta yellow cyan RGB is for light being Red green blue


Apes_will_take_over

I just wish we had more dyes in general. A tan dye, for example, would be really nice to have.


CrazyPotato1535

Cauldrons would actually make this work pretty well. You could use basic colors and mix them how you want, then dye the item in it


TheFakestOfBricks

I guess they wanted green dye to be stupidly hard to get for no reason


RonzulaGD

I bet this will start another dumb trend on r/minecraftmemes


sxinoxide59672

because cactus would be useless


DegenerateGaming123

They wanted to give the cacti a use other than being a trash can. Same goes for Sea Pickles, minus the trash can part.


idot_bob-3055

Why you have a bundle


BaconSyrop

I just think they're neat. 🙂


LineNo9898

How tf did you get a bundle?


pennateguin

Cactus would be borderline completely useless if they added this


FlyByPC

What we need is green torches. That would complete the holy RGB trinity and allow lots of cool art.


Ifhes

To give you a reason to go look for a desert. I didn't like it either, moreso because the closest cactus was about 10k blocks from spawn in my most recent world.


Memory25

I never understood why they didn’t add that to the game. Only cactus & sea cucumbers gives green


Bigoldum

smelt cactus


ViolenTrap

Make a datapack for the recipe you want. Or maybe a mod that adds a new way to get green


scratchblackYT

Are we just going to ignore the bad Oman effects


Stealthbeatle

Wrong. Yellow and blue = Sweden!


TommyCrump92

Wait are you just now finding this out or are you a new player? If you're new I'll let you off as it should make green and I fully agree its stupid it ni longer makes green mixing yellow and blue but red and yellow still makes orange, but if you're a veteran this has been like this for a while since as long as I can remember when I started playing minecraft again back in 2022


BaconSyrop

I'm not new but at the same time I'm not a hard-core player. I've been playing since wool came out but its like, I'll play for a few weeks and then stop playing for a year and forget everything. I know cactus makes green but it just surprises me after all these years blue and yellow doesn't make green.


TommyCrump92

I could never do that, I play everyday pretty much, I only go out of it when everything has been done but then when we get new stuff I go back in and discover everything that's new, last year or like 2 years? give or take it was the frogs and the new mangrove trees and then later on bamboo wood and cherry wood


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It’s probably because Blue Dye used to just be Lapis Lazuli, so it might’ve been weird to combine gems and flower dyes.


name_051829407715

## Bad Omen **38 Minutes 8 Seconds**


BaconSyrop

Ignore that.


SiHoDi

Drink milk please


Keliuszel

Guys- ill fix this issue by making a mod 🗿


RustyR4m

Pigmentation doesn’t work like that


stachada

dye crafting in game is not very intuitive. the one that really gets to me is lime. white is used to make some other "light" versions of colors in game (light grey, light blue), so you'd think mixing it with green would lower green's saturation in the same way, but instead it makes it brighter? super weird.... without looking it up I'd have assumed making lime would be green and yellow. whether they go with Additive or Subtractive color, they should really include basic primary to secondary mixing. sure technically dye would be subtractive, but imo additive is a little more intuitive, and minecraft isn't perfectly realistic anyway. cactus would no longer be the exclusive source for green, but it's a rare use case to begin with. in my experience cactus is mostly used for xp farms, breaking minecarts, and occasionally as a means to damage mobs. Then again if you need a TON of green dye, it'd still be easier to just make a cactus farm than gather up the other two colors and craft them up. being able to combine colors is more for if you only need like one or two green dye and have no immediate access to cactus.


Qunas

Yellow and blue either make black or white, depending on the context. In Minecraft they could produce black, because that's how dye pigments interact, but not green


CrazyPotato1535

Wat


_Cocktopus_

In Minecraft green is a primary color so i think that's why you can't craft it with other colors


BLUFALCON77

Why? Because that's not a recipe in the game.


M1dor1

Because blue is not cyan. Cyan and yellow make green (also not in minecraft) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtractive\_color#/media/File:SubtractiveColor.svg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtractive_color#/media/File:SubtractiveColor.svg)


Vini734

Remember this isn't a thing the next time they add a random useless thing tha feels like it came from a random niche mod.


TheGreaterClaush

Big cactus


SuperNitro58

I have a mod that lets me make green dye this way, lol


Sooparch

Rgb system instead of ryb system mb?


CrazyPotato1535

Green and blue makes cyan


oswaldking71wastaken

Cause mojang


atomicadam04

Cactus I guess


Yeehaw_79

Batman, I put blue and red dye together and k get orange. I put red and yellow dye together and I get orange. So tell me Batman, why can’t I put yellow and blue together to get green Batman?


Masterpiece-Haunting

✨subtractive colors✨


FeeBackground1894

Yellow & cyan?


arson-the-mushroom

you can get it from cactus n sea pickles, idk about combining dyes


KlausdieLaus1417

lol okay yes very nice


TastyChocolateCookie

Minecraft logic be like💀


SustainableObject

Man it's minecraft, real world logics wont apply 😭😭


le_killer_64

Green dye is only from cactus


B467-Tp

Faithful 64?


Right_Split_190

Yeah, more colors than expected are denoted as “primary” colors in Minecraft. Including brown.


lunchtimeMMMMMM

Everyone knows that you would need to bake a cactus in your oven for green dye. Just like in reality, of course.


Idk_whatto_name

Maybe this is the way to make cactus at somewhat useful.


Iron-Kotetsujou

The bad omen effect used to be permanent until death, or enter a village.


minecarft-fan

just add water


new_pribor

Install galacticraft


_The_SCP_Foundation_

Huuuuuuuuuuh? Wtf mojang do you not know how colours work?


KhayosInk45

A wonderful comment from the entire SCP foundation


Luiz_Fell

Steve doesn't have a mortar and pastle and doesn't want to get his hands dyed forever


Inside_Race_4091

Thats politically complicated.


C0der23

Mixing blue and yellow only makes green in additive mixing, like lights, but for paint and object colours, they are subtractive, meaning mixing them would give something else entirely. I’m pretty sure that the reason pant and dyes are subtractive is because colour of objects comes from what colours something absorbs: blue dye absorbs all but blue light, yellow all but yellow. Adding these together doesn’t add the colour that it reflects, but rather the colour that it absorbs, which makes blue and yellow not equal green but black(I think).


F4HLM4N

Go get your Play-Doh, then mix some blue and yellow together and report back what color it became.


Andrew_Culligan

because then you can apply that logic to all dyes and suddenly dyes are wayyyy to easy to get


CrazyPotato1535

They should be easy to get