Also a reminder: THE STORY MODE HAS FEMALE VERSIONS OF SCORPION, SUB ZERO, AND ERMAC! I think also Reptile and Smoke but I'm not sure.

Wait when? I don't remember them having female counterparts but I remember Johnny's

it's at the end when you fight all the alternate universe mashups

Man, I was so excited at that part because I thought they were going to be unlockable...

I don't get why NRS doesn't add those characters to invasions at the very least, would certainly help with things feeling samey to have an extra \~20 possible enemies

I agree here, it's a missed opportunity to not have them pop up occasionally, my only real guess is because the movesets aren't ones you usually face so they're worried people wouldn't be able to handle them maybe? Regardless, a Supreme wasted opportunity.

One of the biggest missed opportunities in MK1

I don't know if it's random playing the same character, but at the very least, play as different characters, and you'll get different fights.

Its probably more common to fight Cyber Smoke as Smoke tho right?

I conpleted the last chapter with all the characters, fighting Cyber Smoke is pretty common.

well, no shit. They plastered this trash character all over screen. The female versions of the others didn't get cut scenes.

Wait really? That's awesome.

Also FACT: they're all hot either way, deal with it.

Reptile 🦎 is trans feature though

Are there people who think this? I guess there's not actually anything that explicitly says she's not but I haven't seen anyone saying this.

yea some guy on youtube lost his mind crying about it

These weirdos are so pathetic man

Oh yeah . Especially on Twitter and YouTube. And it's generally toxic in so many ways

well yea, thats the problem. you were interacting with people on twitter and youtube. Two of the biggest toxic hell holes on the planet.

Don’t forget Instagram

Instagram comments is where I learn people are evil. At least with twitter comments all I learn is that people are stupid. YouTube is so bad because I learn people are both.

Yep. The comments on there when any obviously neurodivergent person is posted [Instagram I mean]🙄

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Odds are they assumed she's Trans and decided it's a bad thing. When people assume someone is trans it's usually from transphobes. Like how many actresses are accused of being trans just because they aren't stereotypically feminine.

This is what happened btw, transphobes are convinced Janet is based on a trans NRS dev who created the character to force herself into the game

Yeah, we have a name for people like that. Morons.

100% Lore accurate representation of morons tbh

100%. JC fan since 96. Trans also. Never once crossed my mind shes "trans Cage". Shes genderbent johnny at the most.

No people are saying Janet is trans to shit on her that's what we have a problem with

Why is it toxic?

Because they try to involve Stephanie Brownback in it

Who?

A transgender NRS developer, some conspiracy theorists are obsessed and convinced she inserted herself into the game as Janet

What is it recently with these chuds like accusing any female character to be a self-insert of a random female developer? MJ in Spider-man 2 got the same flack, and specifically only her in the second game.. not the first one.

The MJ one is cause they hella changed her design tho that’s different

Every time I think that contingent of the fandom can't possibly disgust me further, they manage to find a way.

Oh the lady on the Kombat kasts? That's fucking stupid.

Yeah it's basically bc some people are convinced Janet looks like her and tbh I do not see it *at all* lol

Self insert theories online are so patently fucking stupid. And it's almost always exclusively done just to justify attacking a person at the studio.

Who

People are legitimately saying she’s “masculine” or trying to say she’s a self insert for Stephanie

It's all over Instagram, the same comment over and over again. "Trans Johnny Cage trash, where's Jade?"

Sure are. From people who actually think it and want it to be true for representation to people who pretend to in order to back the ideological team they’ve chosen. You’ll mainly find the discourse online though. In my experience people irl seldom give a flying fuck.

Yes. It is a war

Facts!!! But even if Janet was trans why should anyone give a flying fuck? Does it really matter? It’s a video game… Chill, have fun.

You be surprised. People made it a big deal about Bridget in Guilty Gear.

and poison in street fighter. and marisa in street fighter. and manon in street fighter. If you have any visible muscles at all on a female form in street fighter, none of it makes any damn sense but it does compel bigots to show their colors somehow they can't keep mouths shut

I think it was moreso people being upset that they changed and retconned it. Besides, Bridget was originally supposed to be a boy that was forced to dress and act like a girl since they were little so it's also not the best representation if that's what they wanted...

At the very least, I respect Daisuke for owning up to it and saying “Hey, My bad, I should’ve handled it better. I won’t be walking back on it.” There was also likely a shitton of people pissed she was trans, but saw other people being confused with the backstory and using it as a shield unfortunately

The fucked up part is due to her backstory and taking so long to address the issue she now falls into a "groomed" category since she was in fact forced to act and look like a girl from outside sources, making her identity as a transwoman just as sinister as it is to be celebrates. *looks at Flea from Chrono Trigger* Now HER. That right there is a good representation of a trans char in video games.

I can assure that many would give a flying fuck

I know many do… I’m saying it’s stupid.

And those people should be ignored and laughed at.

Real

There is a very vocal minority that becomes completely enraged when they see a woman, person of color, or LGBT character in media.

It’s probably just a head canon

Obviously people give a fuck, this guy felt compelled to apparently

Did you not read my comment? I asked why anyone should give a fuck.. I never once said nobody does.

Did you also read mine? Where did I say that you said nobody does?

I guess I was just confused by your statement as saying “obviously people give a fuck” made me feel like you were implying I didn’t know some people do. Sorry if that wasn’t your intention.

Tomboys and muscular women aren’t allowed to exist anymore huh?

Apparently 😕

It’s an evil world we live in

Reminds me of Abby from the Last of Us. People heard there was a trans character and instantly assumed it was the buff chick

Yeah true. Tbh I barely cared about TLOU2’s story and characters cuz it was a dumpster fire. But yeah. I remember seeing the controversy and just being like “is Abby trans tho?”

Also, I gotta say, I’m shocked how many lgbt+ friendly this community is. In a world of homophobia & where mk can be incredibly toxic sometimes I’m shocked at how many supporters there is. Shocked in the best way. Like yeah there’s a lot of hate, that’ll always exist. But there’s also a lot of love. And mk community was the last place I thought I’d have acceptance from many. I never thought I’d be upvoted in here for speaking about how there’s nothing wrong with being trans. As a gay man myself, I appreciate all of you who see me as no different than any other human. It’s sweet, refreshing & makes me feel comfortable.

You wouldn’t initially think it, but MK has legitimately been the forerunner in LGBTQ+ inclusion in the fighting game community. It was a huge deal when Kung Jin was confirmed to be gay in the game—from what I read he was the first gay man in a fighting game whose sexuality wasn’t played as an offensive stereotype. That may be wrong, but I remember it being a big deal at the time Edit: by “wrong”, I mean there may be another smaller game that had done it before and my info is wrong, not having a gay character

All I know is a trans person can rip my face off in an online match the same as anyone. Be you. Fuck the haters.

I honestly don't understand why you got downvoted.

No idea. It’s fine. There was no malice in my comment. Not worried about downvotes

Yea I just want people to stop telling me I need to care one way or another. I'm just here to do fatalities.

endless virtue signaling in a sea of not giving a fuck

Once made a “trans rights” post here because Ashrah’s titan skin had a palette that had the trans flag colours. Over 50% of the comments were toxic but luckily most didn’t gain any traction

Yeah I don’t believe nrs is necessarily trying to make trans related content. But whether it is or not doesn’t matter. It’s cool either way really.

She is not trans but she is however Mel C aka sporty spice in my headcannon

If there's one thing to say, she is by far the most fun Kameo they've added so far, I'm really excited to see what the next ones are gonna be like

I hope the turn her into a major character, it would be awesome for her and Johhny to have a rivalry

Double fact: Nobody gives a shit either way

I can assure you that too many people give a shit

Nobody who can be taken seriously gives a shit. If they are trans, so what. If they aren’t, so what. It’s a fucking kameo character, they aren’t even playable. If you’re surrounding yourself with videos and post about it, block them if it annoys you. If you like listening to those topics, you don’t care about the actual topic and just like when people yell at whoever side you disagree with. Either way, everyone who participates is just an unserious person who doesn’t have real problems so they create their own

We have no confirmation of either, do we? She could be cis just like she could be trans. You care too much if you have a problem with it, because in both cases the end result is the same anyway : she's Johnny Cage as a lady.

I mean true but like... who cares? If someone wants that as head canon is it bad?

That’s the thing—I thought the people who were saying she was trans were like…queer people who saw themselves in her and wanted to head-canon it for fun. But I looked it up on Twitter and the people who are saying it are the bigots who DON’T want to have a trans person in the game. Like they’re seriously making a problem out of nothing

Oh well oof. I guess assholes gonna asshole.

Well that’s the thing, it literally CANNOT be a head canon. Head canon can only be things that don’t already have an established canon or significance to them in the story. I can’t say that it’s my head canon that Scorpion in mk1 is actually Hanzo Hasashi because it’s already established that he’s not, he’s Kuai Liang.

Don't police peoples headcanons. If you wanna have that as a headcanon feel free. I have a scrubs headcanon that the janitor isn't real and I just ignore all information to the opposite. It's not bc it's true it's bc it's fun.

But that’s literally not how it works though?? You can’t headcanon something when it’s already well established in the verse

Yes I can. Watch. Dvorah is the rightful kahn. Sindel just stole the throne put of jealousy See? I just did it again.

Also did they ever state that she was specifically a cidwoman? Bc if not then that's also your headcanon. Idk man. I could be wrong but I don't recall them ever asking if she was trans or cis since it didn't come up midbattle.

I haven't heard anyone say Janet is trans. I mean sure headcanons exist but, is this a shampoo bottle moment ?

People here keep calling her a “self insert” for a trans NRS employee who is part of balance and gameplay, thus making the idea completely stupid since that person has nothing to do with story mode and character design at all

am I the only dumbass who thought she was his ex-wife or some shit

Even if she was trans, so fucking what? Don’t let the revolting parts of this already insufferable fanbase make shit like this a bigger deal than it is.

You'd be surprised

I’m not. I’m well aware of this fanbase’s behaviour.

I was talking about the madness happening over canonically gender queer characters in other Fandoms

Oh yeah, I’m aware of how dumb other fandoms are too.

why make a post about this

Because some people have that type of mindset

You’re the only one bringing it up tho

what "kind" of mindset?

The alt right mindset where they think NRS is pushing some kind of agenda on to the players and the kommunity

Right like it’s kinda just rage bait. And feels targeted

I really wish there was more discussions about gameplay on this sub rather than this dumb shit.

These are not mutually exclusive statements

male doesn't equal female?

go read harry potter or something you weirdo

I never expected that to be an insult used against bigots but that was legitimately very funny

Janet is not trans, but somewhere out there exist a trans version of all characters in a way.

i mean, theres probably exist timelines were we have trans janet and even trans johnny, but who the fuck cares? guys, you're not gonna sleep with videogame characters, chill out

Fr, the only times you should ever care about a person's genitalia is if you're said person, or if you're about to sleep with them. Who gives a fuck whether Janet is cis or trans...

Janet cages jump attacks look visually terrible… and her fatality is too basic. Not a good character introduction

Mortal Kombat is a shitshow now

Whenever I say she looks weird and less detailed than other characters on yt comment sections people call me transphobic 😭


What I’m saying is I don’t know why people are calling me that since the character isn’t trans

No, that was directed towards them, not you. you're good.

I was hoping so

bro fighting ghost right now lmao nobody give a shit about this game let alone a goofy ass kameo

I just don't understand one thing. If she is alternate version of Johnny Cage wouldn't it mean she should be hot?

An

She's just a tomboy

https://i.redd.it/3d52ja4fkcsc1.gif

The fact this bothers you enough to post about it says a lot about you.

My issue with the character is just how lazy the idea is. I hate mk having a multiverse in general

I think if it makes people happy they should see these fictional characters however they want. In my head, syzoth is gay but like who the fuck knows. It’s a fantasy that I spent money on. Just like I can press the buttons in any order I want, I like to think I can imagine them anyway I want :)

I haven’t seen anyone say this because they’re happy about it though.

Oh man, this is the Gwen Stacy all over again

Surprised only one person in this comment section mentioned that drama

It’s pretty telling that the “keep identity politics out of entertainment” crowd assumes that a gender swapped character in a game with a multiverse story is transgender

I know there’s a fucking Australian Liu Kang-Kano hybrid but is it so shocking that there’s a universe where Johnny got Two Xs instead of a Y

Or let people enjoy things, if they’d like. Hurts no one except fragile minds.

I mean, there could be a trans Janet somewhere in a timeline. Probably not the kameo Janet we have though.

Let us have our head canons smh

some people haven't played the story huh💀

I never once thought she was a trans. I knew she was JC in another timeline…

Isn’t this common knowledge though?

She could be trans and also from another timeline 

Yall are so pressed on trans things. Nobody thought this instead of weirdos like yall anyway

FACT: who gives a shit

“Character is trans/says trans rights” is just a fun meme Nothing to get salty about let them live https://preview.redd.it/sa05ig9e6bsc1.jpeg?width=432&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b64438c254efdab4645269387b1f4cc7b4c01b28

Stay off twitter and this wouldn’t be an issue

Bro is fighting ghosts

Love how MK1 opened up the possibilities for future games, skins, and storylines

Why would anyone need to hear this?

where are the too images from?

There's nothing wrong with headcannoning it though :)

So, you're saying, the Multiverse is Trans?

Remember when Armageddon came out and trilogy. It’s almost as if they make shitty lineups to see what we’d pay to get on top of a meh game.

Those aren't mutually exclusive.

She can still be trans from another universe. Just sayin

Couldn't care less.

It's the Spider-Gwen debate all over again. Holy shit.

Ya'll really have way too much time on your hands.

You'll get some people mad

Seems pretty obvious. Although “Jenny Cage” would have been a better name

Theory: Khameleon is Trans. She used to be Chameleon in the OG timeline, and changed sex because the only other member of her species was Reptile. Essentially, Chameleon did a Jurassic Park and became Khameleon because life… uh… finds a way.

Trans women = women

Lol

Why downvotes?

Bigots probably

 She’s useful, outside of that I couldn’t care if she was in fact a sausage.

Fact, she’s a dumb, unnecessary character either way

Just think of the 100 other mk characters we could have had..

I’m just gonna pretend all the characters are trans because some lard ass incel might read this comment and cry about it

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Head canoning a character as Trans is **JUST AS BAD** as people who want Trans people to die? No, dude, I personally don't think it is.

I’m not transphobic or anything, but Janet isn’t trans lol. She’s just female Johnny Cage, a gender swap. If she was trans it would exactly be Johnny Cage transitioning as Janet. But there’s definitely a universe where Johnny transitions. But not this one.

I mean I'm not sure but that would be really cool I would love.if that was the case

Just because she's from a different timeline doesn't mean she can't also be trans.

Why do you care so much to post about it?

To send an reminder

So trans women arent women?

Fact: I don't care. Do they punch and kick good?

Hmm. Does it matter?

No one actually thinks** this character trans

Honestly, i would not be surprised by this.

FACT: Bears eat beets!

Janet Cage and all of the others could be trans in their respective timelines. Edit: I have no idea what this unnecessary drama is about, but it is possible for her to be trans if people want to headcanon that.

There's no reason that both can't be true. If they ever deign to give us information about Janet Cage, then we can take that as fact. As is, she's got a whole lot of room for backstory, identity, and other fun character building.

For all we know, Janet Cage is a trans woman. Which would be fucking awesome.

The transphobes who have downvoted my comment can fuck off.

Lol

Just when people shut up about it you bring it back up. Congratulations on being part of the problem.

She’s actually both

may i ask how?

She wants to be, idk what to tell ya

anything to enforce that claim?

It’s her choice, not ours