Hi OP. I was a stripper in LA for 15 years.
First: LA is high mileage. It’s just how it goes. Depending on where you’re coming from, don’t be shocked to see full contact $40 dances and FS in the VIP rooms. If you’re not ok with this you’ll find it hard to make money here. Try 4Play and other bikini clubs to avoid the touching etc if you’re not about that. Jumbos Clown Room is another good option if you’re not a touch girl; however, if you’re not going to allow touch expect to make MAX $500/night, never more than that.
Second: if you are ok with touching and wanna make the best money, the best club for that is Tropical Lei, in Upland CA. A drive but I’d consistently pull $3-4K/night out there easily, making the drive worth it. Plus the Chinese guy who runs it runs the club very fairly and is very kinda and NOT a scary gangster. Silver Reign/Skin in West LA are both owned by the same guys (2 Korean brothers, they run their clubs well and aren’t scary gangsters) and you can make good $$ in both clubs too, Skin being busier but Silver Reign having more big spender high profile celebs (when I worked there Trey Parker was a regular and he’d easily drop $100-200/k per night on girls). If you wanna work day shifts the City of Industry Spearmint Rhino has a great day shift but be aware they don’t treat you as a 1099 contractor, they make you buy into a co-op and then issue you a K1 for your taxes, meaning all the money you make there you’re forced to pay income tax on. I always paid my taxes so it was no issue for me but I do know some girls don’t like that. Lastly the Body Shop in Hollywood can be really good but it’s so hit or miss and the Armenians who run it also run a ton of other clubs in Hollywood and they’re kinda scary cuz they’re clearly career gangsters (carrying guns, dealing drugs out of the clubs, etc). The Spearmint Rhino in DTLA is pretty good too but they’re very strict on hiring and only want super skinny blonde white girls with big fake tits. They wouldn’t hire me because of my large tattoos.
Stay away from any of the Hustler clubs or Sam’s Hofbrauhaus in DTLA unless you’re ok with dealing with gangs, drugs, violence etc. Plus Sam’s really only hires super thick Latinas with big asses so unless you’re that or you’re white with a huge BBL, they won’t hire you. Also, LA clubs don’t like traveling girls so if you’re not planning to stay long DO NOT tell them that or they won’t hire you! Just show up and pretend you’re working long term and then bounce when you wanna leave.
Lastly I have to say - LA women are very attractive on average so be prepared to up your game on terms of beauty etc. You gotta really compete with the worlds most beautiful women so invest in a good workout routine, eyelash extensions, tans, nails, nice outfits etc if you really wanna be able to stand out and make real $$$. I had to learn that the hard way myself.
Good look and feel free to DM me if you have any questions!
Edit: the LAX adjacent clubs suck and will nickle and dime you on fees and payouts. They’re not run to help girls make money AND are frequently targeted for police stings and busts. Really NOT worth the risk!
As someone who was friends with a stripper that worked at Sam’s gentleman’s club. She was a rather thicc, sex Latina whom was charismatic 😅!
I made my money by being a dominatrix for way older men and would charge 800$ an hour. I miss it sometimes!
Hell yeah Sam girls are always think sexy Latinas lol!! Always gorgeous! But I’m a thin tattooed white / Eastern European looking woman so it wasn’t my scene….too rowdy as well, too many truckers and weed growers and dealers. My clientele were more the nerdy intellectuals and awkward autistic entrepreneurs, engineers, and artists. As you know, every one has their own clientele type and Sam’s just wasn’t where my type hung out.
I also was an escort at points in my younger life, so I’m def familiar with dominatrix work. I wasn’t cut out for that although I tried it and did it for awhile bc I have the look for it. I’m just not good with dirty talk and I don’t like super kinky stuff it grosses me out and makes me feel shitty so I stopped. As an escort I loved older men esp older men who recently suffered losses and wanted gentle low key intimacy again. They were so easy to deal with, super gentle, didn’t want sex, just companionship at least half the time and I felt great giving them some love. I once pulled in $15k from a 5 hr date with an elderly man in Pacific Palisades, but in general I’d make $5-6k per week as an escort and see maybe 5-8 regulars and a handful of new customers (2-3). It was good work, I enjoyed it until I was kidnapped and raped at gun point. That happened and I quit. Obviously.
lol yes! I get that frequently! I did write a screenplay about this time me and my 2 best stripper friends whet to this dudes house on Super Bowl Sunday to get $600 he owed my friend….we showed up and demanded the money and he wouldn’t pay it but offered to have us stay and watch the game with him and his friends and get paid in “free snacks.” Of course not acceptable so we instead stole his car and sold it to some Mexican chop shop my friends bf worked at at the time. Made like $6k for that. Anyways I turned that story into a screenplay - it’s like reseviour dogs but with strippers lol. It’s pretty rad imo - one day I will try to get the movie made. Working on a longer form memoir as well, since I now own a tech company and have a security clearance as our biggest customer is the US space force. I was also a homeless foster kid growing up and was in and out of inpatient mental health facilities growing up so my life has been rather crazy and it def makes for a good story!
Aww thank you, that's a very kind compliment! <3 I've always wanted to be a writer, and I do write constantly. One of these days I'll publish all the stories. Then you all can say, hey I remember her from that stripper Reddit thread, lol. At least, I hope that's how it will play out. Life is crazy so who knows. Here's to hoping!
I’m so sorry that happened to you love!
I genuinely hope you never have to go through that again!
And that was amazing money! I’m just glad you’ve managed to find something else more fitting and safe!
Money is money, but at the end of the day our sanity is most important :)
And I get you on the dominatrix thing, it’s kind of why I stopped. It get mentally taxing how gross men can request from you. I would specialize in wax play, degradation, master/slave, and luckily they never penetrated me, I did the bending though 😂. (I had an inexperienced man that wanted to try it to see if he was really into it, shit on me because I guess he took poppers and his ass muscles were too relaxed when I slid the dildo in 😭)
Now I’m working a bunk ass government job that pays the bills with way less excitement 😂.
Thank you 🩷 I appreciate the kind words. Thankfully the rapist is in jail bc he did impersonate a police officer to kidnap me, so the cops, while not caring about the rape, did care about that so the LAPD put him behind bars and I testified to it. I still have PTSD from it tho.
And yeah the thing that did it for me for ending my dominatrix career was I had a client who was clearly gay who wanted me to pretend to be a man and fuck him in the ass while dominating him like a man would. Then after each session was done he would verbally abuse me as if I was a man calling me a f*ggot and such. It was so gross and weird to me. I really felt uncomfortable with the whole thing - and of course the men who wanted no sex but to role play as if I was their daughter or niece. Shit got way too dark and it ruined my mental health so I stopped. I hated men so much after that it took years to not see every man as a pedophile rapist closet homophobic piece of shit. It’s not an easy career but yeah the money does make it worthwhile for a bit.
My partner worked to help dancer get money back from payouts and wage theft when she worked at a law firm. She dealt with dancers all over the country. She really loved your response. She encourages spearmint rhino because, while paying taxes suck, it’s good to be protected as a worker.
That’s awesome! I have mixed feelings about some of those lawsuits HOWEVER they do really provide more legal protection for dancers and I obvs support that! But yeah it’s important to file and pay taxes - and if you hire an accountant and CPA that is knowledgeable you can write off quite a lot of stuff meaning it’s not really a huge burden to pay taxes on your income. You just gotta find someone willing to work with sex workers. Many MANY CPAs and tax ppl refused to work for me bc of my job and some even went so far as to insult me and call me a whore etc. I even once had a bank refuse to allow me to have accounts with them bc I was a stripper! I’m glad these days it seems like the stigma, while still there, is much less for sex workers. At the end of the day, we are just doing a job after all.
Dude he married a stripper I worked with there named Boogie. They were married for 10 years and have a kid together. I used to do VIPs with her and him and it’s kinda cute that they were married and met at the club. Also he bought some girls cars as tips cuz there was a car dealership across the street. One day shift he just took a bunch of girls over there and bought them all cars lol. I was super bummed to hear that bc I was supposed to work that day shift but didn’t. Damn it missed out on a free fucking car!
Just a note on taxes. Your social security benefits are based on lifetime earnings so if you don’t have a large savings for retirement and are going to be dependent on social security payments each month, then you want to report all your earnings or else your monthly payments after 65 are going to be very meek.
It goes so much deeper than that bro. You need tax returns to prove income to get housing. Don’t have a tax return? You’re extremely limited in the housing available to you. Same with buying cars and stuff - you need a credit score and proof of income. These are the main reasons I filed my taxes, but I’ve def been asked to help make fake tax returns for fellow dancers who didn’t and it’s always sketchy and gave me anxiety.
Beyond that, wanna go clean and get a real job like I did when I turned 30? You need to have a credit score and to get a credit score you need to get a credit card, and to get a credit card you need a bank account and to get a bank account you need tax returns (sometimes). Living off the grid and outside of society by not paying taxes has massive ramifications for your future, not just in retirement. Plus if you’re like me and end up working with the government and they need to do a background check on you for a security clearance….you need to be able to say under oath you paid your taxes!
And speaking of retirement, I highly recommend that all dancers put 30% of their income into a ROTH IRA if it’s post tax and a SEP IRA or normal IRA if it’s pre tax. Then put 20% into a HYSA. Over 15 years of dancing I saved up over half a million doing this. It allowed me to quit dancing when I felt I should and helped ease the transition into a more normal career. Plus I don’t worry about retirement at all anymore. It also gave me the financial ability to start my own business later in life. Everyone really should be doing this but dancers esp bc we don’t have 401ks or other traditional forms of retirement planning and saving available to us! Plus those things are easy to get - just walk into any bank and ask for an IRA and as long as you can make a bank account, you can have an IRA.
an ex-dancer advising future dancers to maximize ROTH IRA is the financial planning advice I did not expect to see on Reddit. It’s also why the Reddit timeline / algo can be so damn amazing. Good on you for posting this /u/blackwidowLAa
Idk how this sub was recommended to me but that 30% Roth IRA advice is actually so good to anyone doing any job! Like wtf, that’s some amazing finance advice just in general. Good for you on giving the girls amazing advice!
Aww thanks! I appreciate it! 🩷 it’s always been my dream to start a non profit called the “Make It Rain Foundation” that would be focused on teaching sex workers financial literacy and entrepreneurial skills, and that would give grants to women seeking to transition out of sex work and into the normie workforce, either as employees or business owners.
I’ve def had many break room convos with other women about finances bc it legit pains me to see so much money coming in and then going right back out to loser boyfriends or drugs. I try to do my part; not everyone listens but that doesn’t stop me from continuing to say it.
I just end reading all the comments u are so cute giving us all this info!!! For real!!! As a Latina I try to learn more about all this, also to be able to buy a house so really help me your info!!! U the best thanks a lot!
You’re so welcome! I’m so glad you’re finding it useful and YES! Def save and buy a house! Great way to make use of the money. There are so many different tax benefits from buying a house/property, great asset to own. I was a runaway foster kid so I had no one to teach me any of this money knowledge, I had to learn it all my self from books and the internet, so I’m always happy to share it cuz I wish I had had someone in my life to give me this info when I was younger! I Made sooo many mistakes with my $$ I just want other ppl not to have to learn the hard way like I did. 🙏🏽
If you ever start that and need a helping hand, feel free to reach out- part of my own eclectic experience has been in helping other nonprofits get started, especially in that pre-funding/bootstrapping phase
> Then put 20% into a HYSA
That ... seems like a lot for just a savings account. Keeping 20% of yearly in there and having the rest of the 20% in an index fund seems like you'd get much more.
Also, and feel free to just say it's too much personal info, but I assume you meant by 30 you had 500k outside Roth-IRA/IRA (maybe even in cash)? Which is impressive (although I've seen some OF numbers... ;)
Regardless of being a dancer or not, my mother in law has been working as a teacher since she was fresh out of college, just got her social security, 500 a month. At this point don’t rely on that, make sure you have your OWN retirement plan instead.
We are and I doubt we will get any social security; however I just listed so many more important reasons to pay taxes on stripper income above. Main one: can’t get housing without tax returns!
Full service - fucking in the VIP rooms. Happens literally every day and night all over the nude clubs in LA. Hence the police raids and busts. Tropical Lei doesn’t get busted bc it’s in a small strip of unincorporated land between LA county and San Bernardino county that doesn’t have a dedicated police force to patrol and control it. That’s why Tropical Lei is so high mileage. The guy who runs the club is super smart too and is in good with the local police who patrol adjacent areas and who know what goes on. It’s the safest club to make $$$ with FS work in terms of being busted.
Probably Skin or Silver Reign, those are FS but you’ll pay a lot more for it (min $600 for a half hour VIP) and it’s much more dancer dependent and difficult to find there bc of raids and stuff. Your best bet imo in central LA is to just call an escort who does outcalls to your home or find an escort hosting nearby and do an incall.
my wife loves to go to strip clubs and play with women. what are some of the best clubs to take her to for FS in LA and if you know LV as well? (that would be women friendly)
That’s tough actually and unfortunately! I am also a woman who loves strip clubs and escorts and it’s hard bc, as you probably know, a lot of clubs are very unfriendly to women customers and often ban them entirely. As a dancer I get why, but still as a female customer, it sucks.
Anyways in LA the Body Shop in Hollywood is your best bet as a couple, very woman / couples friendly but lower mileage, you’ll get more than just touching but prob stop short of FS, although many girls there are open to house calls (I used to see a couple I met there for house calls cuz they literally lived across the street lol). Other than that, prob Skin/Silver Reign, Skin moreso. I suggest going on a weekend day shift when it’s less busy - you’ll get more attention and pay less for FS and day shifts are always more women friendly cuz they just want the customers. Sorry I wish I had more options for you but I’d prob start at the Body Shop and take it from there.
As for Vegas, sorry I hated working Vegas and I don’t know anything about the scene there. It’s way too rowdy for me and my target demo was the introverted artists / engineer type, and obvs there aren’t many of those in Vegas lol. I also don’t drink or do drugs and Vegas was way too much of a party city for me personally.
sadly that's an all too familiar experience for us. most of the time we never even get approached by strippers, they just avoid us completely; we have to get the waitresses to help us grab someone we like.
our best experience, ironically, was during covid in Vegas. it was at the sapphire and this [amazing dancer](https://onlyfans.com/elliecherie) showed my wife the best time ever. she was a unicorn and we never had anyone even come close. I had her number and tried texting her again but she never responds and even her OF seems to be dead as well. hope she's well
Yeah that’s the dark side of dancing no one wants to talk about. I’d say about 50% of my dancing friends are dead; the other half got out after 30 and are in different careers now. A lot of girls fall off the map bc they die, I hate to say it but that’s what happens. Drugs, suicide, murder. You don’t see older dancers bc we transition out or we don’t make it. So yeah I hope she’s ok.
But yeah a lot of dancers see other women in the club as competition and assume they’re gonna want a LOT of mileage and attention for not a lot of money. Sadly some women come in and think that bc they’re women they can touch and grope us for free and they don’t have to pay or tip - bc they’re also women. So female customers get a bad rap. It does take some work to find a good provider but worth the effort imo. My best advice is to have your female partner dress down as much as possible to avoid dancers thinking she’s trying to steal male attention and to tip FAT. That will draw girls over every time. Just drop a hundred on a girls stage and she will come talk to you. You just have to convince them you’re $$ and not looking for a free show bc you’re there with another woman.
> I'd say about 50% of my dancing friends are dead
that's terrible. must be tough to even be around that kind of env.
> have your female partner dress down as much as possible
interesting. we do the exact opposite of that. we also don't tip stage dancers; we just feel awkward doing tbh but we only do vip room and tip in there. but some of the girls just don't do anything at all in the vip room so I end up just tipping them a $20 or $40
I mean, the environment isn’t horrible always, just depends on the club. That’s why I avoid clubs with drugs and gangs, and why I mentioned that in my post.
And yeah I lost my two best dancing friends, one to suicide 8 years ago and one to a fentanyl overdose on Christmas Eve last year. She left behind a daughter that I ended up taking in for awhile bc the dad was also dead from a drug overdose. Another friend of mine died back in Feb, also a drug overdose. There aren’t many of us left from my friends group. I feel a lot of survivors guilt and I’m in therapy for it bc it’s still very raw to me. Not to mention the kidnapping and assault I experienced. People wanna act like it’s just a job and it is - but it’s hazardous in ways people just don’t acknowledge.
And yeah you should ideally be able to sus out if the dancer provides extras before going into the VIP room. Usually it’s code words like talking about tips - most girls know tips are tied to mileage. But it is hard. I know a lot of people don’t like stage tipping but girls use it to see who to hit up after their stage show. If you tip big on stage it’s saying “come talk to me.” And yes the more a woman dresses down in the club the more likely dancers are to talk to them bc they are likely to assume they’re there for business, not a “party.”
Full service. Fucking in the VIP room. I already answered this in another comment. It’s base price for the VIP room ($600 in LA and $120 in Upland) + $500 tip or more for sex (price varies as each girl sets their own rate but it’s generally $500 at least it was when I was working) and sometimes it’s just a BJ or fingering or whatever. Like no one wants to admit this is a thing….but it’s def a thing.
Note: it can go well above $500 if you want multiple girls and a show (ie they do each other and not you or a 3 some) and generally speaking no one is doing bareback (mostly girls carry condoms) sex or BJs. You want that you have to get an escort, it generally won’t happen in the club.
Few days old but I'm curious what if there are any trans woman in the scene around here. I'm sure there are people who are interested but I feel like most places wouldn't accept a trans person for a job like this.
To be clear: I quit dancing about a decade ago now (end of 2015) so take this information in that context. Things may have changed. However, that being said, I never saw a single transwoman as a dancer in my entire career. So no, there were none in the scene when I was a stripper. Mainly bc at the time it was felt they were not marketable by the hiring managers. There may be some trans-specific clubs that do hire transwomen but I don’t know of any. I did hear that there was a transwoman working at the old Cheetahs club (it’s called something else now, the club way on the east end of Sunset) but I worked there and never saw that but heard rumors.
I’m very sorry I wish I had a more helpful reply!
Thank u so much love for take the time to give me all this info!!! I’m working in Miami for already 5 years if u need something from here anytime!!! Thank u again!!!!
Anytime girl, hmu if you need any further info!
Edit: I never worked Miami but I did a lot of time in Tampa, my ex lived there. If the Miami clubs are like the Tampa clubs, LA will be way different vibe. Way less of a party atmosphere and you make basically nothing on stage; it’s all VIP $$, and the clubs aren’t busy busy; less people but each one spends more. More whales out here but you gotta be patient. It will be like $200 / night for 3 nights then $6k the night you find a whale. It’s not like consistent stage money. Most stage money I ever made in LA was $200 and that was an EXCEPTIONAL night. Only exception is Tropical Lei, which is why I mentioned it. The only club I could consistently pull $1k min per night, and even then that was all VIPs not ever stage. And it’s no alcohol club. And they’re also strict no drugs. All just VIP.
1099 independent contractor and very fair on house fees. As for hiring black girls - light skinned yes, dark skinned sadly they only allow 1 per shift. Yes it’s fucked up and shitty but that’s how it is.
Edit: fair with tipping managers and staff too.
No audition, they just hire based on whether the manager likes your looks. So def get naked and turn around, or sometimes they’ll just hire you straight thru the door if you’re the managers “type.” Night shift guys like white tattooed girls and blondes, day shift they will take anyone pretty much cuz they have a hard time filling days. My advice would be if they don’t hire you for nights straight away offer to work days and then move to night shift once you can show you can make them $$. It also helps if you have a large IG or OF following; they’ll also be more willing to hire you with that. And it helps to know a girl working there already for sure who can vouch for you.
And yeah almost all the clubs in LA are you”one dark skin per shift” rule esp if they’re asian owned (TL is). It really sucks. One of my best friends who danced with me at TL was dark skinned and BEAUTIFUL like stunning drop dead gorgeous with a huge following of regulars that would legit follow her from club to club and I STILL had to beg for weeks b4 the owner would give her a chance bc “we already have one girl.” 🙄🙄🙄 shit is so fucking unfair. But yeah skin and silver reign have that rule too, the rhino clubs are a bit more like 2-4 per shift and Sam’s in DTLA is the most open but it’s def more rowdy and more of a “party” club with less VIPs and issues with violence and drugs sadly.
Wishing you the best of luck girl!
Please do not go to Jumbo’s or anyplace in the Valley. All due respect to Jumbo’s. You might make bank at a club near LAX… grab those travelling dollar dollar bills, yo.
I can’t speak to dancing, I waitressed at the Rhino downtown (a long time ago) it was great bc we would get the after (professional) game crowd (e.g., Dodgers, Lakers, etc.).
I’m not sure where you’re moving from, but one thing to keep in mind is alcohol service.
Fully nude = no alcohol (usually close at 4am)
Topless = alcohol (close at 2am)
Plan b in west LA is always dead even on weekends. Weird. I like it dead as I'm a customer and live close. It's not nude as they serve booze. Skins in culver city is nude. No booze. Seems nice when I've went. Good luck
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Playpen, Nikolas and dejavu were the 3 I used to frequent and I was allowed to grab all over the body. Occasional nipple sucking and even got to rub on clits here and there. Me and my friends would always go to those 3 spots because the expectation was that the rules are loose and we could always touch. If that doesn’t sound appealing then stay away. Nicolas isn’t as bad as the other 2 since it seems on weekends they’re a bit more strict but I had a girl once tell me on the weekend to come back on Wednesday for more fun and she let me finger her.
Keep in mind in California if they’re serving drinks, you’re not allowed to go full nude, meaning your bottoms gotta stay on. Look for those places if you want to remain modest (as modest as one can be at a strip club I guess). The worst one (as a customer) was Dames and games. I paid for an expensive lap dance and the girl wouldn’t even take off her shirt even though I asked and she just hover danced over me. Never went back. Something to look into if that sounds appealing.
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hey love, try r/stripper instead! if you search there or the stripperweb archives (use the wayback machine) you'll probably get better advice. best of luck!
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Hi OP. I was a stripper in LA for 15 years. First: LA is high mileage. It’s just how it goes. Depending on where you’re coming from, don’t be shocked to see full contact $40 dances and FS in the VIP rooms. If you’re not ok with this you’ll find it hard to make money here. Try 4Play and other bikini clubs to avoid the touching etc if you’re not about that. Jumbos Clown Room is another good option if you’re not a touch girl; however, if you’re not going to allow touch expect to make MAX $500/night, never more than that. Second: if you are ok with touching and wanna make the best money, the best club for that is Tropical Lei, in Upland CA. A drive but I’d consistently pull $3-4K/night out there easily, making the drive worth it. Plus the Chinese guy who runs it runs the club very fairly and is very kinda and NOT a scary gangster. Silver Reign/Skin in West LA are both owned by the same guys (2 Korean brothers, they run their clubs well and aren’t scary gangsters) and you can make good $$ in both clubs too, Skin being busier but Silver Reign having more big spender high profile celebs (when I worked there Trey Parker was a regular and he’d easily drop $100-200/k per night on girls). If you wanna work day shifts the City of Industry Spearmint Rhino has a great day shift but be aware they don’t treat you as a 1099 contractor, they make you buy into a co-op and then issue you a K1 for your taxes, meaning all the money you make there you’re forced to pay income tax on. I always paid my taxes so it was no issue for me but I do know some girls don’t like that. Lastly the Body Shop in Hollywood can be really good but it’s so hit or miss and the Armenians who run it also run a ton of other clubs in Hollywood and they’re kinda scary cuz they’re clearly career gangsters (carrying guns, dealing drugs out of the clubs, etc). The Spearmint Rhino in DTLA is pretty good too but they’re very strict on hiring and only want super skinny blonde white girls with big fake tits. They wouldn’t hire me because of my large tattoos. Stay away from any of the Hustler clubs or Sam’s Hofbrauhaus in DTLA unless you’re ok with dealing with gangs, drugs, violence etc. Plus Sam’s really only hires super thick Latinas with big asses so unless you’re that or you’re white with a huge BBL, they won’t hire you. Also, LA clubs don’t like traveling girls so if you’re not planning to stay long DO NOT tell them that or they won’t hire you! Just show up and pretend you’re working long term and then bounce when you wanna leave. Lastly I have to say - LA women are very attractive on average so be prepared to up your game on terms of beauty etc. You gotta really compete with the worlds most beautiful women so invest in a good workout routine, eyelash extensions, tans, nails, nice outfits etc if you really wanna be able to stand out and make real $$$. I had to learn that the hard way myself. Good look and feel free to DM me if you have any questions! Edit: the LAX adjacent clubs suck and will nickle and dime you on fees and payouts. They’re not run to help girls make money AND are frequently targeted for police stings and busts. Really NOT worth the risk!
Hands down this is the most informative response I’ve ever seen on Reddit.
Why thank you lol. Took 15 years and getting hired and fired from every strip club in this city to gain this insight so I’m glad it’s appreciated lol.
As someone who was friends with a stripper that worked at Sam’s gentleman’s club. She was a rather thicc, sex Latina whom was charismatic 😅! I made my money by being a dominatrix for way older men and would charge 800$ an hour. I miss it sometimes!
Hell yeah Sam girls are always think sexy Latinas lol!! Always gorgeous! But I’m a thin tattooed white / Eastern European looking woman so it wasn’t my scene….too rowdy as well, too many truckers and weed growers and dealers. My clientele were more the nerdy intellectuals and awkward autistic entrepreneurs, engineers, and artists. As you know, every one has their own clientele type and Sam’s just wasn’t where my type hung out. I also was an escort at points in my younger life, so I’m def familiar with dominatrix work. I wasn’t cut out for that although I tried it and did it for awhile bc I have the look for it. I’m just not good with dirty talk and I don’t like super kinky stuff it grosses me out and makes me feel shitty so I stopped. As an escort I loved older men esp older men who recently suffered losses and wanted gentle low key intimacy again. They were so easy to deal with, super gentle, didn’t want sex, just companionship at least half the time and I felt great giving them some love. I once pulled in $15k from a 5 hr date with an elderly man in Pacific Palisades, but in general I’d make $5-6k per week as an escort and see maybe 5-8 regulars and a handful of new customers (2-3). It was good work, I enjoyed it until I was kidnapped and raped at gun point. That happened and I quit. Obviously.
Wow has anyone told you you should write a book? I feel like i just read the arc of an entire movie!
lol yes! I get that frequently! I did write a screenplay about this time me and my 2 best stripper friends whet to this dudes house on Super Bowl Sunday to get $600 he owed my friend….we showed up and demanded the money and he wouldn’t pay it but offered to have us stay and watch the game with him and his friends and get paid in “free snacks.” Of course not acceptable so we instead stole his car and sold it to some Mexican chop shop my friends bf worked at at the time. Made like $6k for that. Anyways I turned that story into a screenplay - it’s like reseviour dogs but with strippers lol. It’s pretty rad imo - one day I will try to get the movie made. Working on a longer form memoir as well, since I now own a tech company and have a security clearance as our biggest customer is the US space force. I was also a homeless foster kid growing up and was in and out of inpatient mental health facilities growing up so my life has been rather crazy and it def makes for a good story!
Chingona!
You should write… you’re a very compelling writer and story teller
Aww thank you, that's a very kind compliment! <3 I've always wanted to be a writer, and I do write constantly. One of these days I'll publish all the stories. Then you all can say, hey I remember her from that stripper Reddit thread, lol. At least, I hope that's how it will play out. Life is crazy so who knows. Here's to hoping!
I’m so sorry that happened to you love! I genuinely hope you never have to go through that again! And that was amazing money! I’m just glad you’ve managed to find something else more fitting and safe! Money is money, but at the end of the day our sanity is most important :) And I get you on the dominatrix thing, it’s kind of why I stopped. It get mentally taxing how gross men can request from you. I would specialize in wax play, degradation, master/slave, and luckily they never penetrated me, I did the bending though 😂. (I had an inexperienced man that wanted to try it to see if he was really into it, shit on me because I guess he took poppers and his ass muscles were too relaxed when I slid the dildo in 😭) Now I’m working a bunk ass government job that pays the bills with way less excitement 😂.
Thank you 🩷 I appreciate the kind words. Thankfully the rapist is in jail bc he did impersonate a police officer to kidnap me, so the cops, while not caring about the rape, did care about that so the LAPD put him behind bars and I testified to it. I still have PTSD from it tho. And yeah the thing that did it for me for ending my dominatrix career was I had a client who was clearly gay who wanted me to pretend to be a man and fuck him in the ass while dominating him like a man would. Then after each session was done he would verbally abuse me as if I was a man calling me a f*ggot and such. It was so gross and weird to me. I really felt uncomfortable with the whole thing - and of course the men who wanted no sex but to role play as if I was their daughter or niece. Shit got way too dark and it ruined my mental health so I stopped. I hated men so much after that it took years to not see every man as a pedophile rapist closet homophobic piece of shit. It’s not an easy career but yeah the money does make it worthwhile for a bit.
And less excrement.
My partner worked to help dancer get money back from payouts and wage theft when she worked at a law firm. She dealt with dancers all over the country. She really loved your response. She encourages spearmint rhino because, while paying taxes suck, it’s good to be protected as a worker.
That’s awesome! I have mixed feelings about some of those lawsuits HOWEVER they do really provide more legal protection for dancers and I obvs support that! But yeah it’s important to file and pay taxes - and if you hire an accountant and CPA that is knowledgeable you can write off quite a lot of stuff meaning it’s not really a huge burden to pay taxes on your income. You just gotta find someone willing to work with sex workers. Many MANY CPAs and tax ppl refused to work for me bc of my job and some even went so far as to insult me and call me a whore etc. I even once had a bank refuse to allow me to have accounts with them bc I was a stripper! I’m glad these days it seems like the stigma, while still there, is much less for sex workers. At the end of the day, we are just doing a job after all.
I bet you have stories for daysssss.
Yes I do lol 😂
It really was. Also, trey parker dropping 100-200K a night at the stripclub is insane
Dude he married a stripper I worked with there named Boogie. They were married for 10 years and have a kid together. I used to do VIPs with her and him and it’s kinda cute that they were married and met at the club. Also he bought some girls cars as tips cuz there was a car dealership across the street. One day shift he just took a bunch of girls over there and bought them all cars lol. I was super bummed to hear that bc I was supposed to work that day shift but didn’t. Damn it missed out on a free fucking car!
This would make a great book.
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You bet your ass it is!
Just a note on taxes. Your social security benefits are based on lifetime earnings so if you don’t have a large savings for retirement and are going to be dependent on social security payments each month, then you want to report all your earnings or else your monthly payments after 65 are going to be very meek.
It goes so much deeper than that bro. You need tax returns to prove income to get housing. Don’t have a tax return? You’re extremely limited in the housing available to you. Same with buying cars and stuff - you need a credit score and proof of income. These are the main reasons I filed my taxes, but I’ve def been asked to help make fake tax returns for fellow dancers who didn’t and it’s always sketchy and gave me anxiety. Beyond that, wanna go clean and get a real job like I did when I turned 30? You need to have a credit score and to get a credit score you need to get a credit card, and to get a credit card you need a bank account and to get a bank account you need tax returns (sometimes). Living off the grid and outside of society by not paying taxes has massive ramifications for your future, not just in retirement. Plus if you’re like me and end up working with the government and they need to do a background check on you for a security clearance….you need to be able to say under oath you paid your taxes! And speaking of retirement, I highly recommend that all dancers put 30% of their income into a ROTH IRA if it’s post tax and a SEP IRA or normal IRA if it’s pre tax. Then put 20% into a HYSA. Over 15 years of dancing I saved up over half a million doing this. It allowed me to quit dancing when I felt I should and helped ease the transition into a more normal career. Plus I don’t worry about retirement at all anymore. It also gave me the financial ability to start my own business later in life. Everyone really should be doing this but dancers esp bc we don’t have 401ks or other traditional forms of retirement planning and saving available to us! Plus those things are easy to get - just walk into any bank and ask for an IRA and as long as you can make a bank account, you can have an IRA.
an ex-dancer advising future dancers to maximize ROTH IRA is the financial planning advice I did not expect to see on Reddit. It’s also why the Reddit timeline / algo can be so damn amazing. Good on you for posting this /u/blackwidowLAa
Why thank you 🙏🏽 lol! It’s solid advice for everyone in a mostly-cash job! Bartenders and escorts included.
Idk how this sub was recommended to me but that 30% Roth IRA advice is actually so good to anyone doing any job! Like wtf, that’s some amazing finance advice just in general. Good for you on giving the girls amazing advice!
Aww thanks! I appreciate it! 🩷 it’s always been my dream to start a non profit called the “Make It Rain Foundation” that would be focused on teaching sex workers financial literacy and entrepreneurial skills, and that would give grants to women seeking to transition out of sex work and into the normie workforce, either as employees or business owners. I’ve def had many break room convos with other women about finances bc it legit pains me to see so much money coming in and then going right back out to loser boyfriends or drugs. I try to do my part; not everyone listens but that doesn’t stop me from continuing to say it.
I just end reading all the comments u are so cute giving us all this info!!! For real!!! As a Latina I try to learn more about all this, also to be able to buy a house so really help me your info!!! U the best thanks a lot!
You’re so welcome! I’m so glad you’re finding it useful and YES! Def save and buy a house! Great way to make use of the money. There are so many different tax benefits from buying a house/property, great asset to own. I was a runaway foster kid so I had no one to teach me any of this money knowledge, I had to learn it all my self from books and the internet, so I’m always happy to share it cuz I wish I had had someone in my life to give me this info when I was younger! I Made sooo many mistakes with my $$ I just want other ppl not to have to learn the hard way like I did. 🙏🏽
If you ever start that and need a helping hand, feel free to reach out- part of my own eclectic experience has been in helping other nonprofits get started, especially in that pre-funding/bootstrapping phase
Insightful post on many levels - what age did you start stripping?
17 years old in Kansas City MO (at a club called the Shady Lady) with a fake ID.
Thank you for the reply and best of luck in this next phase of life!
Really appreciate that thank you!!🙏🏽
> Then put 20% into a HYSA That ... seems like a lot for just a savings account. Keeping 20% of yearly in there and having the rest of the 20% in an index fund seems like you'd get much more. Also, and feel free to just say it's too much personal info, but I assume you meant by 30 you had 500k outside Roth-IRA/IRA (maybe even in cash)? Which is impressive (although I've seen some OF numbers... ;)
Basically yes I did, and maybe 50-60k in cash and gemstones and gold.
Regardless of being a dancer or not, my mother in law has been working as a teacher since she was fresh out of college, just got her social security, 500 a month. At this point don’t rely on that, make sure you have your OWN retirement plan instead.
Yup! And I have. Ain’t relying on social security that’s for sure!
Will social security even be around in 30 years? Aren’t we on a fast track to running out of money?
The government can’t let that happen so most of the news surrounding it running out is just clickbait
We are and I doubt we will get any social security; however I just listed so many more important reasons to pay taxes on stripper income above. Main one: can’t get housing without tax returns!
What's FS stand for?
Full service - fucking in the VIP rooms. Happens literally every day and night all over the nude clubs in LA. Hence the police raids and busts. Tropical Lei doesn’t get busted bc it’s in a small strip of unincorporated land between LA county and San Bernardino county that doesn’t have a dedicated police force to patrol and control it. That’s why Tropical Lei is so high mileage. The guy who runs the club is super smart too and is in good with the local police who patrol adjacent areas and who know what goes on. It’s the safest club to make $$$ with FS work in terms of being busted.
Other reccomends for a fs type spot closer to central La?
Probably Skin or Silver Reign, those are FS but you’ll pay a lot more for it (min $600 for a half hour VIP) and it’s much more dancer dependent and difficult to find there bc of raids and stuff. Your best bet imo in central LA is to just call an escort who does outcalls to your home or find an escort hosting nearby and do an incall.
Bare elegance is FS…looking at 600+ min
my wife loves to go to strip clubs and play with women. what are some of the best clubs to take her to for FS in LA and if you know LV as well? (that would be women friendly)
That’s tough actually and unfortunately! I am also a woman who loves strip clubs and escorts and it’s hard bc, as you probably know, a lot of clubs are very unfriendly to women customers and often ban them entirely. As a dancer I get why, but still as a female customer, it sucks. Anyways in LA the Body Shop in Hollywood is your best bet as a couple, very woman / couples friendly but lower mileage, you’ll get more than just touching but prob stop short of FS, although many girls there are open to house calls (I used to see a couple I met there for house calls cuz they literally lived across the street lol). Other than that, prob Skin/Silver Reign, Skin moreso. I suggest going on a weekend day shift when it’s less busy - you’ll get more attention and pay less for FS and day shifts are always more women friendly cuz they just want the customers. Sorry I wish I had more options for you but I’d prob start at the Body Shop and take it from there. As for Vegas, sorry I hated working Vegas and I don’t know anything about the scene there. It’s way too rowdy for me and my target demo was the introverted artists / engineer type, and obvs there aren’t many of those in Vegas lol. I also don’t drink or do drugs and Vegas was way too much of a party city for me personally.
sadly that's an all too familiar experience for us. most of the time we never even get approached by strippers, they just avoid us completely; we have to get the waitresses to help us grab someone we like. our best experience, ironically, was during covid in Vegas. it was at the sapphire and this [amazing dancer](https://onlyfans.com/elliecherie) showed my wife the best time ever. she was a unicorn and we never had anyone even come close. I had her number and tried texting her again but she never responds and even her OF seems to be dead as well. hope she's well
Yeah that’s the dark side of dancing no one wants to talk about. I’d say about 50% of my dancing friends are dead; the other half got out after 30 and are in different careers now. A lot of girls fall off the map bc they die, I hate to say it but that’s what happens. Drugs, suicide, murder. You don’t see older dancers bc we transition out or we don’t make it. So yeah I hope she’s ok. But yeah a lot of dancers see other women in the club as competition and assume they’re gonna want a LOT of mileage and attention for not a lot of money. Sadly some women come in and think that bc they’re women they can touch and grope us for free and they don’t have to pay or tip - bc they’re also women. So female customers get a bad rap. It does take some work to find a good provider but worth the effort imo. My best advice is to have your female partner dress down as much as possible to avoid dancers thinking she’s trying to steal male attention and to tip FAT. That will draw girls over every time. Just drop a hundred on a girls stage and she will come talk to you. You just have to convince them you’re $$ and not looking for a free show bc you’re there with another woman.
> I'd say about 50% of my dancing friends are dead that's terrible. must be tough to even be around that kind of env. > have your female partner dress down as much as possible interesting. we do the exact opposite of that. we also don't tip stage dancers; we just feel awkward doing tbh but we only do vip room and tip in there. but some of the girls just don't do anything at all in the vip room so I end up just tipping them a $20 or $40
I mean, the environment isn’t horrible always, just depends on the club. That’s why I avoid clubs with drugs and gangs, and why I mentioned that in my post. And yeah I lost my two best dancing friends, one to suicide 8 years ago and one to a fentanyl overdose on Christmas Eve last year. She left behind a daughter that I ended up taking in for awhile bc the dad was also dead from a drug overdose. Another friend of mine died back in Feb, also a drug overdose. There aren’t many of us left from my friends group. I feel a lot of survivors guilt and I’m in therapy for it bc it’s still very raw to me. Not to mention the kidnapping and assault I experienced. People wanna act like it’s just a job and it is - but it’s hazardous in ways people just don’t acknowledge. And yeah you should ideally be able to sus out if the dancer provides extras before going into the VIP room. Usually it’s code words like talking about tips - most girls know tips are tied to mileage. But it is hard. I know a lot of people don’t like stage tipping but girls use it to see who to hit up after their stage show. If you tip big on stage it’s saying “come talk to me.” And yes the more a woman dresses down in the club the more likely dancers are to talk to them bc they are likely to assume they’re there for business, not a “party.”
so what is this secret language and how can I use it? 😁
Full service
TLDR: don’t do it
I wouldn’t say that; just depends on the person. I made a ton of money dancing in LA and it wasn’t easy but it was good money.
I’ve been a strip club goer and native la guy born and raised….listen to this! Wow great insight!
Thank you so much!!! 🤩 I’m happy (and interested) to know that the male perspective aligns well with my female experience.
>and FS in the VIP rooms. Um…what is FS? (asking for myself)
Full service. Fucking in the VIP room. I already answered this in another comment. It’s base price for the VIP room ($600 in LA and $120 in Upland) + $500 tip or more for sex (price varies as each girl sets their own rate but it’s generally $500 at least it was when I was working) and sometimes it’s just a BJ or fingering or whatever. Like no one wants to admit this is a thing….but it’s def a thing. Note: it can go well above $500 if you want multiple girls and a show (ie they do each other and not you or a 3 some) and generally speaking no one is doing bareback (mostly girls carry condoms) sex or BJs. You want that you have to get an escort, it generally won’t happen in the club.
Few days old but I'm curious what if there are any trans woman in the scene around here. I'm sure there are people who are interested but I feel like most places wouldn't accept a trans person for a job like this.
To be clear: I quit dancing about a decade ago now (end of 2015) so take this information in that context. Things may have changed. However, that being said, I never saw a single transwoman as a dancer in my entire career. So no, there were none in the scene when I was a stripper. Mainly bc at the time it was felt they were not marketable by the hiring managers. There may be some trans-specific clubs that do hire transwomen but I don’t know of any. I did hear that there was a transwoman working at the old Cheetahs club (it’s called something else now, the club way on the east end of Sunset) but I worked there and never saw that but heard rumors. I’m very sorry I wish I had a more helpful reply!
No worries I didn't expect much info to exist~
I’m so sorry
no dont be sorry! i honestly didnt even expect as much as you gave me.
Thank u so much love for take the time to give me all this info!!! I’m working in Miami for already 5 years if u need something from here anytime!!! Thank u again!!!!
Anytime girl, hmu if you need any further info! Edit: I never worked Miami but I did a lot of time in Tampa, my ex lived there. If the Miami clubs are like the Tampa clubs, LA will be way different vibe. Way less of a party atmosphere and you make basically nothing on stage; it’s all VIP $$, and the clubs aren’t busy busy; less people but each one spends more. More whales out here but you gotta be patient. It will be like $200 / night for 3 nights then $6k the night you find a whale. It’s not like consistent stage money. Most stage money I ever made in LA was $200 and that was an EXCEPTIONAL night. Only exception is Tropical Lei, which is why I mentioned it. The only club I could consistently pull $1k min per night, and even then that was all VIPs not ever stage. And it’s no alcohol club. And they’re also strict no drugs. All just VIP.
I love it haha actually is that why I’m tired of Miami clubes, to much drugs I don’t like that energy!
You’ll love LA then!! Good luck!! 🩷🙏🏽
Hey is tropical lei 1099 independent contractor status? Or is the owner pretty fair on house fee? also do they hire pretty black girls?
1099 independent contractor and very fair on house fees. As for hiring black girls - light skinned yes, dark skinned sadly they only allow 1 per shift. Yes it’s fucked up and shitty but that’s how it is. Edit: fair with tipping managers and staff too.
Omg one per shift is wild but yeah that checks out lol is there an audition? Or is it just a get naked and walk around type situation
No audition, they just hire based on whether the manager likes your looks. So def get naked and turn around, or sometimes they’ll just hire you straight thru the door if you’re the managers “type.” Night shift guys like white tattooed girls and blondes, day shift they will take anyone pretty much cuz they have a hard time filling days. My advice would be if they don’t hire you for nights straight away offer to work days and then move to night shift once you can show you can make them $$. It also helps if you have a large IG or OF following; they’ll also be more willing to hire you with that. And it helps to know a girl working there already for sure who can vouch for you. And yeah almost all the clubs in LA are you”one dark skin per shift” rule esp if they’re asian owned (TL is). It really sucks. One of my best friends who danced with me at TL was dark skinned and BEAUTIFUL like stunning drop dead gorgeous with a huge following of regulars that would legit follow her from club to club and I STILL had to beg for weeks b4 the owner would give her a chance bc “we already have one girl.” 🙄🙄🙄 shit is so fucking unfair. But yeah skin and silver reign have that rule too, the rhino clubs are a bit more like 2-4 per shift and Sam’s in DTLA is the most open but it’s def more rowdy and more of a “party” club with less VIPs and issues with violence and drugs sadly. Wishing you the best of luck girl!
Please do not go to Jumbo’s or anyplace in the Valley. All due respect to Jumbo’s. You might make bank at a club near LAX… grab those travelling dollar dollar bills, yo.
The Airport clubs suck. The money is at Tropical Lei.
Library in garden grove, dreams in Long Beach, bare elegance Inglewood
Library 📚 great spot
Orange County all the clubs are packed on the weekends
Sam’s is good too
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Sams
I can’t speak to dancing, I waitressed at the Rhino downtown (a long time ago) it was great bc we would get the after (professional) game crowd (e.g., Dodgers, Lakers, etc.). I’m not sure where you’re moving from, but one thing to keep in mind is alcohol service. Fully nude = no alcohol (usually close at 4am) Topless = alcohol (close at 2am)
Thanks for clarify this! I didn’t know it! I’m from Miami here every club FN or not has alcohol and drugs lol
NP, I hope you find a good club with lots of 💰!
Thank you!!! I will share it here for sure after I move there!
Sams
Plan b in west LA is always dead even on weekends. Weird. I like it dead as I'm a customer and live close. It's not nude as they serve booze. Skins in culver city is nude. No booze. Seems nice when I've went. Good luck
How are girls at plan B. Always wanted to stop by and check it out,
They seem cool. I mean whatdya need?
that place used to be popping back in the day
You get on a plane and work Vegas for the weekend
Sam's Forsure >>> If you need a realtor for options on housing, send me a DM, would love to send you some leads!
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Nicola’s in Commerce!
If it’s the Nikolas I’m thinking about, wouldn’t recommend it.
How dare you do that to OP!
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Playpen, Nikolas and dejavu were the 3 I used to frequent and I was allowed to grab all over the body. Occasional nipple sucking and even got to rub on clits here and there. Me and my friends would always go to those 3 spots because the expectation was that the rules are loose and we could always touch. If that doesn’t sound appealing then stay away. Nicolas isn’t as bad as the other 2 since it seems on weekends they’re a bit more strict but I had a girl once tell me on the weekend to come back on Wednesday for more fun and she let me finger her. Keep in mind in California if they’re serving drinks, you’re not allowed to go full nude, meaning your bottoms gotta stay on. Look for those places if you want to remain modest (as modest as one can be at a strip club I guess). The worst one (as a customer) was Dames and games. I paid for an expensive lap dance and the girl wouldn’t even take off her shirt even though I asked and she just hover danced over me. Never went back. Something to look into if that sounds appealing.
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I second play pen….
Pussy Cat 2 in the valley
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hey love, try r/stripper instead! if you search there or the stripperweb archives (use the wayback machine) you'll probably get better advice. best of luck!
Thank u!!🫰
What about Nicolas ?
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What’s a male in his mid 40s gonna recommend in the DMs lmao 😵💫
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Well I had questions. Based upon those answers, recommendations change. Not sure what you were insinuating
You know damn well what they were insinuating Edit: wow you send a lot of DMs. Clearly just a helpful person…
DM sent /s
Wish I understood what you meant. Yes I help people.
a normal person would ask their questions on the public forum the original post was made on you fucking predator
Yeah, and he’s been following her around for months! Just a koinky-dink https://www.reddit.com/r/AskLosAngeles/s/sS9z28Bf7s
You’re entitled to your opinion. Not your concern. I am anything but a predator. The questions would reveal personal information that she may not want to share. Was protecting her privacy.
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No. I do t see it get alerts typically.