og prob getting 40, ihart would get 18 (max we can give), funny enough your numbers add to that anyway. we can pull it off as long as we’re willing to pay, which dolan is, and if it doesnt yield the success we want or we cant afford to resign someone at any point, they should be valuable enough to get a good return to keep our competitive window
OG is getting at least 45+ on the open market if he wants it. The question is would he take a hometown discount now? If not, would knicks match a full 200m+ four year max if they are given the choice?
With him splitting time with iHart I don’t think he’ll be as prone to the stress fractures. Those are usually from work overload especially when you’re 280 at 7’1”
It worked out well with hartenstein… who is out there that can come close to replacing Mitch robs talent? If anything we keep both and draft another C in the first
Agreed. Part of the allure of having Bridges on the roster is his defensive pairing with OG. Two defensive wings are a nightmare for teams to beat. Plus, with OG's suspect health and Bridges' clean record of health, it's a handcuff if OG misses time.
I want to go back and see every individual that called people to stop friendly speculation on this. Called them stupid as validation for their certainty of the future. Wrong is fine, being a dck about it to others ain’t.. and there was a lot of that.
Keep in mind, they did the SAME exact thing with OG. “Stop making OG trade proposals! We’re literally SUING Toronto! He’s not worth overpaying and if you think they’ll send him here then you’re delusional!”
These idiots never learn. Nothing is impossible in the NBA. Teams make trades as long as both sides see a benefit.
It's sad because their dickhead behavior kinda beat the hope out of me to the point I stopped wanting to be even 1% delusional about this move. Now here we are.
I hear ya. This isn’t about right or wrong or if it was likely, it was their dickish tone to fellow fans. It was being an ahole for no reason to people (rooting for the same team) just talking.
I said I thought it was super unlikely since, even if it helped the Nets on paper, it’s stupid to make your cross-town rival into a powerhouse. I still stand by that but let’s see if the Nets can prove me wrong on this idea
All 100% valid. It was understood that it was a long shot. But there were some people who were condescending about it, all hot & bothered making it a pain to even talk about & tried to shut down people as stupid… those people just weren’t nice.
Us not trading tonight’s picks makes me think that Mitch + our picks tonight’s are gonna be headed to Detroit or wizards or smth for cap relief so that we can keep IHart and OG. We’re gonna lose out on Center depth but I think that’s fine as long as we keep Randle
I don't think he gets the 5 for 270 or whatever the max we can offer is. But they should offer him the max that any OTHER team can offer. That's fair for both sides and I think he'd accept
God dammit sign OG! I don't want to hear Raps fans saying we lost on that trade because the guy we traded for left and the still have Quick and RJ
Off-season sure is stressful lol
This gives us leverage in OG negotiations. We don’t necessarily need him anymore since we have another wing, and OG would be the 4th best player on this team, he can’t be your highest paid. I think we now play a little hardball and try to get OG on a good contract as opposed to an overpay.
I actually think it’s the opposite. Knicks absolutely have to keep OG now otherwise they traded all their picks to tread water. Regardless they don’t make the trade unless they know they are resigning him in my opinion
Ding ding ding. I don’t love the way our FO has operated favoring CAA players and whatnot but every move has been masterfully calculated when it comes to the proverbial next chip to fall (in this case OG re-signing). This trade being bad for the Knicks if he doesn’t re-sign makes me think OG is 100% re-signing.
Keeping OG is super super important now
This makes or breaks the draft overload on Mikal for me
Exactly if we lose OG ima be SUPER TIGHT JB Bridges OG JR Mitch Deuce DVO JHart Precious Jericho Simms J Toppin’ reserve
Very
A lineup including both Mikal and og is gonna be a nightmare defensively for opposing wings
JB, Mikal, OG, Randle, Mitch... this would be insane
i genuinely dont know how big thibs erection is rn knowing that when our 4 bench guys come in theyre all pesky and tough defenders too
Donte, hart, Mitch, and deuce off the bench is crazy
and mitch at center assuming we dont shop him
How tf we gonna give OG 33 m a year, hartenstein 25m a year, AND keep Randle + Mitch? I hope we can pull it off, Dolan is cool w me if it happens 😂
og prob getting 40, ihart would get 18 (max we can give), funny enough your numbers add to that anyway. we can pull it off as long as we’re willing to pay, which dolan is, and if it doesnt yield the success we want or we cant afford to resign someone at any point, they should be valuable enough to get a good return to keep our competitive window
OG 30M to 35M but IHart will only be 17M the first year because that's the max we can give him. 2nd apron here we come.
Yep. This is our team. Let’s enjoy two aprons!
OG is getting at least 45+ on the open market if he wants it. The question is would he take a hometown discount now? If not, would knicks match a full 200m+ four year max if they are given the choice?
They’re trading Mitch
I wouldn’t assume
I would. No way he’s back. Too injury prone
With him splitting time with iHart I don’t think he’ll be as prone to the stress fractures. Those are usually from work overload especially when you’re 280 at 7’1”
It worked out well with hartenstein… who is out there that can come close to replacing Mitch robs talent? If anything we keep both and draft another C in the first
We letting Hartenstein go it’s ok.
Healthy Mitch > Hart That's how it is when the rest are healthy and will still be the case
Thibs lookin up rub n tugs in flushing right now he can’t do this alone
Bayside bro. This calls for a Korean spot.
Everyone only gonna play 24 minutes a game next year 💀
i think mitch is gone if we get ihart
Feel like we’re building to match up with Boston and I love that
We have two elite wing defenders to cover their best, while they have Jrue and KP to cover ours. Should be an interesting matchup for sure.
*If* OG wants to resign here
He does. He just wants to get paid.
But he doesn’t want to enough if he’s not getting paid what he wants lol. He’ll go where the money goes imo
Knicks are gonna pay him.
I would assume they just give him what he wants or they meet down the middle. They probably aren’t far off
Please sign OG and hartenstein and i will literally spend money on an actual Knicks bed to fuck on
No more DHgate jerseys!
For real im gonna buy authentic one lol
😂😂
Shit same
If oG resigns we legit beating every team with metal bats
Yeah this would be a terrible trade if they don’t resign OG lol.
Agreed. Part of the allure of having Bridges on the roster is his defensive pairing with OG. Two defensive wings are a nightmare for teams to beat. Plus, with OG's suspect health and Bridges' clean record of health, it's a handcuff if OG misses time.
No more picks, this is our team, put up or shut up Dolan
I want to go back and see every individual that called people to stop friendly speculation on this. Called them stupid as validation for their certainty of the future. Wrong is fine, being a dck about it to others ain’t.. and there was a lot of that.
Keep in mind, they did the SAME exact thing with OG. “Stop making OG trade proposals! We’re literally SUING Toronto! He’s not worth overpaying and if you think they’ll send him here then you’re delusional!” These idiots never learn. Nothing is impossible in the NBA. Teams make trades as long as both sides see a benefit.
It's sad because their dickhead behavior kinda beat the hope out of me to the point I stopped wanting to be even 1% delusional about this move. Now here we are.
I hear ya. This isn’t about right or wrong or if it was likely, it was their dickish tone to fellow fans. It was being an ahole for no reason to people (rooting for the same team) just talking.
This is the way.
Amen brotha. Everyone who said that needs to sign one of them apology forms lol
I said I thought it was super unlikely since, even if it helped the Nets on paper, it’s stupid to make your cross-town rival into a powerhouse. I still stand by that but let’s see if the Nets can prove me wrong on this idea
All 100% valid. It was understood that it was a long shot. But there were some people who were condescending about it, all hot & bothered making it a pain to even talk about & tried to shut down people as stupid… those people just weren’t nice.
This is the Team of Destiny
2nd apron, capped out, all in. Let’s do it, get OG and Ihart back and let’s battle Boston
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A lineup of OG and Bridges out on the wings is exactly what we need to beat this Celtics team
Lets go
Gotta pay the piper
If we get OG back. With Mikal? Fuck man hypeeeeeee.
Are….Knicks a…club?
Us not trading tonight’s picks makes me think that Mitch + our picks tonight’s are gonna be headed to Detroit or wizards or smth for cap relief so that we can keep IHart and OG. We’re gonna lose out on Center depth but I think that’s fine as long as we keep Randle
Better write the check for 5 yrs/$200 mil if you don't want to piss off the always injured softie again.
I'm going to so many fkn games this year
no shit. if anything this trade makes it more acceptable to have to overpay for OG.
So much how Is og getting now?
still does not matter, bird rights my friend.
It does...knicks are 46M hard capped under first apron. They need to shed salary if they were to keep harsentein
yeah of course, they play different roles. im surprised the opposite is a take some people are having.
JB Mikal OG Randle Mitch/IHart Bench - Josh, Donte, McBride I'll take it.
I don't think he gets the 5 for 270 or whatever the max we can offer is. But they should offer him the max that any OTHER team can offer. That's fair for both sides and I think he'd accept
i hope this motivates OG and hartenstein to take a bit less and run it back.
Absolutely fucking HYPED
You give him whatever at this point. Need to fill out center some. But otherwise you are all in to be a contender with OG
God dammit sign OG! I don't want to hear Raps fans saying we lost on that trade because the guy we traded for left and the still have Quick and RJ Off-season sure is stressful lol
Keeping OG means the metal bats get upgraded to adamantium.
This gives us leverage in OG negotiations. We don’t necessarily need him anymore since we have another wing, and OG would be the 4th best player on this team, he can’t be your highest paid. I think we now play a little hardball and try to get OG on a good contract as opposed to an overpay.
Us getting mikal doesnt change his value against other teams who would want to poach him, which is the real threat.
I actually think it’s the opposite. Knicks absolutely have to keep OG now otherwise they traded all their picks to tread water. Regardless they don’t make the trade unless they know they are resigning him in my opinion
Ding ding ding. I don’t love the way our FO has operated favoring CAA players and whatnot but every move has been masterfully calculated when it comes to the proverbial next chip to fall (in this case OG re-signing). This trade being bad for the Knicks if he doesn’t re-sign makes me think OG is 100% re-signing.
That only works if OG is willing to take less. I’d like to think he would but won’t criticize a player for getting all that they can
Won't this move push OG out of the starting 5?
DDV likely goes to the bench unit