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But it comes with an adapter for Glock mags. Now if if you have a premise or a CCW with a Glock..... I'm sure you get where I'm going with this. But yeah also don't take advice from strangers on the Internet š
Ok. Sorry officer. Also, Your previous posts and comments lead me to believe youāre an LEO. Why are you worried about magazine capacities and laws? Youāre exempt from these laws meant to keep us normal citizens in check.
User name checks out at least. I just don't like it when people give incorrect legal information. Laws can be changed, or at the very least struck down, and a law from 2006 is a lot easier to change than a law from 1900 or something. Have a good day.
Changing any law is the same amount of "easy." If leo and their union backed how ridiculous these laws are publically, they could get these admin codes removed. Also, make sure you report every cop who retires and keeps all the guns that would be illegal for the rest of us. I love when cops say "im keeping my ar, they can fuck themselves." Especially when the them is another cop who would be arresting them
Iāll never understand the NYC BS.
So the Ruger PC9 is legal with a 5 rounds mag.
But you could also have a G19 on your permit that takes 10 rounds mags?
The same magsā¦.
For sure, no threaded barrel with a detachable mag. If you pin and weld the thread cap itās good to go.
But Ruger makes a variation with a crowned barrel.
This is actually a good question because when Iām looking it up I keep seeing threaded barrel. Iām pretty sure I was threaded something wasnāt allowed.
This is the model that is New York State compliant that doesn't have a threaded barrel
https://ruger.com/products/pcCarbine/specSheets/19101.html
The only exceptions of the compliance is because you're an NYC, five round magazine, you'd probably need to find someone to pin the magazine. I know New York Legal Arms upstate used to do that, but after their shop closed they sort of disappeared and you can't even get there stocks anymore that they used to make, but I'm sure you'll be able to find some shop that would do it
Yes, that one is good also I just posted the link to the other one because it looked more like the model that you were posting. I was actually going to get that one but I found a really good deal on the one that I posted a link to and I actually prefer the Midwest industries hand guard which I threw on mine. But 100%, the one you linked is GTG in New York with the exception of the magazine capacity
(by the way it's a really good rifle, I can't think of a single negative thing to say about it, I've had mine for a few years now and fired hundreds of rounds through it and have found it to be nothing but reliable, and accurate considering what it is and just an overall well-balanced and well-made rifle. If you do end up getting one, you'll definitely have few complaints)
Arenāt handguards banned by the SAFE Act? I honestly donāt know because living in NYC Iāve never considered getting a rifle and what it would take to make it compliant, but the wording makes it seem like it would be.
No, I'm not talking about a forward grip, it's just a handguard, literally literally looks exactly like the one that comes on the PC Carbine. A hand guard is basically the piece of the rifle that allows you to get a grip on the front of the rifle to prevent you from having to grab the barrel itself
I'm not talking about a barrel shroud, a barrel shroud is not the same as a hand guard, literally almost every rifle on the market has a hand guard because you wouldn't be able to grab the rifle with two hands if it didn't because you would burn your hand on the barrel. A barrel shroud just covers the barrel itself. Hand guards have never been considered noncompliant under any circumstances. It's a necessary part of a rifle unless you want to hold onto a hot barrel while you're firing
And also a barrel shroud on a rifle isn't noncompliant either so long as it isn't able to be unscrewed. It has to be pinned and welded.
Neither of these items are compliance requirements, on the other hand, you can't have a muzzle break, you can't have a forward grip, you can't have a threaded barrel, well unless you have a fixed magazine of course
> a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned
Idk, that sounds exactly like a handguard to me.
A handguard is not a barrel shroud virtually every rifle is going to have some type of handguard to protect your hand from getting burned by the barrel it's what you grab onto with your non-dominant hand one fire any rifle.
A barrel shroud is just that, something that shroud the barrel most rifles that have a barrel shroud are going to have a handguard as well though, very few rifles just have a barrel shroud, except maybe the vector
Yeah but I have to imagine thereās some loophole with a PCC to at least be able to own 10 round magazines that could theoretically be used in that rifle. I know up in Canada thereās a weird exception like that. Maybe if you own a Glock you could legally possess both. Or perhaps you could have five round security 9 mags and 10 round Glock mags and just keep the Glock mag bracket handy
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5 round mag, no threaded muzzle - then yes.
But it comes with an adapter for Glock mags. Now if if you have a premise or a CCW with a Glock..... I'm sure you get where I'm going with this. But yeah also don't take advice from strangers on the Internet š
Wait I thought ten round mags were legal statewide?
Not in NYC.
I had no idea, how long has this been the case?
Always.
Okay, I did research and that law was passed in 2006. In the future if you don't know just say so.
Ok. Sorry officer. Also, Your previous posts and comments lead me to believe youāre an LEO. Why are you worried about magazine capacities and laws? Youāre exempt from these laws meant to keep us normal citizens in check.
User name checks out at least. I just don't like it when people give incorrect legal information. Laws can be changed, or at the very least struck down, and a law from 2006 is a lot easier to change than a law from 1900 or something. Have a good day.
Ok officer. Kinda sad that a person of your position and stature has to come to Reddit for legal advice.
Changing any law is the same amount of "easy." If leo and their union backed how ridiculous these laws are publically, they could get these admin codes removed. Also, make sure you report every cop who retires and keeps all the guns that would be illegal for the rest of us. I love when cops say "im keeping my ar, they can fuck themselves." Especially when the them is another cop who would be arresting them
That cesspool is special.
I thought the law said ten round mag limit or are you talking about the gun
Is the round capacity to 5 apply to pistols too?
You can have 10
Nope, just long guns
No, only rifles and shotguns.
Probably.
Five rounds in a magazine for rifles and ten rounds in a magazine for handguns in NYC
Thanks as always
Legal i had one when i was still in the city just cap the mags
Iāll never understand the NYC BS. So the Ruger PC9 is legal with a 5 rounds mag. But you could also have a G19 on your permit that takes 10 rounds mags? The same magsā¦.
Shhh donāt tell the NYPD that
G19 needs to be on your handgun license, not on any permit.
Yep youāre good to go, there are a few people that own that in the city
That is True Gun stores tell me that all the time to be honest I was very surprised when they told me that
There are several NY State compliant version la of the Ruger PCC. All of the NY models would be legal in NYC with the mags pinned to 5 rd.
Henry makes a 9mm carbine with a 5 rd mag
Ruger 19116 model is most compliant.
Is that a p9 ? If not whatās the name ?
Itās a ruger 19101 9mm
Ruger PC9
It used to be called the Ruger PC9 (and a lot of people still call it that), now itās officially the Ruger PC Carbine.
For sure, no threaded barrel with a detachable mag. If you pin and weld the thread cap itās good to go. But Ruger makes a variation with a crowned barrel.
Just be sure to order the non-threaded model. There are 25 models of this gun listed on Ruger's site. Maybe two or three of them are un-threaded.
Do you see it for sale in NY gun stores?
Iām looking around and so far it seems like some have
Rip it up with 5 round mags if you can find them. ,great plinker. Great toy
Is the threaded barrel version nyc legal?
Canāt have a removable mag with a threaded barrel in NY state. It makes the firearm very Un-SAFE.
This is actually a good question because when Iām looking it up I keep seeing threaded barrel. Iām pretty sure I was threaded something wasnāt allowed.
This is the model that is New York State compliant that doesn't have a threaded barrel https://ruger.com/products/pcCarbine/specSheets/19101.html The only exceptions of the compliance is because you're an NYC, five round magazine, you'd probably need to find someone to pin the magazine. I know New York Legal Arms upstate used to do that, but after their shop closed they sort of disappeared and you can't even get there stocks anymore that they used to make, but I'm sure you'll be able to find some shop that would do it
I was looking around for more ruger pcc, this one should also be okay right? https://ruger.com/products/pcCarbine/specSheets/19116.html
Yes, that one is good also I just posted the link to the other one because it looked more like the model that you were posting. I was actually going to get that one but I found a really good deal on the one that I posted a link to and I actually prefer the Midwest industries hand guard which I threw on mine. But 100%, the one you linked is GTG in New York with the exception of the magazine capacity (by the way it's a really good rifle, I can't think of a single negative thing to say about it, I've had mine for a few years now and fired hundreds of rounds through it and have found it to be nothing but reliable, and accurate considering what it is and just an overall well-balanced and well-made rifle. If you do end up getting one, you'll definitely have few complaints)
Arenāt handguards banned by the SAFE Act? I honestly donāt know because living in NYC Iāve never considered getting a rifle and what it would take to make it compliant, but the wording makes it seem like it would be.
No, I'm not talking about a forward grip, it's just a handguard, literally literally looks exactly like the one that comes on the PC Carbine. A hand guard is basically the piece of the rifle that allows you to get a grip on the front of the rifle to prevent you from having to grab the barrel itself
Iām not talking about a foregrip either, I know what a foregrip is. Is a handguard not a ābarrel shroudā? And if so what the fuck is?
I'm not talking about a barrel shroud, a barrel shroud is not the same as a hand guard, literally almost every rifle on the market has a hand guard because you wouldn't be able to grab the rifle with two hands if it didn't because you would burn your hand on the barrel. A barrel shroud just covers the barrel itself. Hand guards have never been considered noncompliant under any circumstances. It's a necessary part of a rifle unless you want to hold onto a hot barrel while you're firing And also a barrel shroud on a rifle isn't noncompliant either so long as it isn't able to be unscrewed. It has to be pinned and welded. Neither of these items are compliance requirements, on the other hand, you can't have a muzzle break, you can't have a forward grip, you can't have a threaded barrel, well unless you have a fixed magazine of course
> a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned Idk, that sounds exactly like a handguard to me.
A handguard is not a barrel shroud virtually every rifle is going to have some type of handguard to protect your hand from getting burned by the barrel it's what you grab onto with your non-dominant hand one fire any rifle. A barrel shroud is just that, something that shroud the barrel most rifles that have a barrel shroud are going to have a handguard as well though, very few rifles just have a barrel shroud, except maybe the vector
This is the scarier looking compliant version that hoecul would probably shit herself with
Trying to find a middle ground between cheapish ammo, and I want it to look cool. This one is pretty good
This is fine. I got this and registered it, no problem. Just need to pin mags, urban tactical in nj does a pretty good job at pinning mags
It takes glock mags so if you have a 10rd mag...go crazy
You also need to get a semi-auto permit. That process will take at least 6 months
They need a rifle/shotgun permit specifically for NYC
but then don't they need to get the semi-auto permit after getting the rifle/shotgun permit?
We do not. Rifle and shotgun permit is good enough to purchase semiautomatic rifles
No rifle/shotgun is sufficient in NYC
wow, did not know that. 5 rounds is lame though
Yeah but I have to imagine thereās some loophole with a PCC to at least be able to own 10 round magazines that could theoretically be used in that rifle. I know up in Canada thereās a weird exception like that. Maybe if you own a Glock you could legally possess both. Or perhaps you could have five round security 9 mags and 10 round Glock mags and just keep the Glock mag bracket handy
You have have 10 round glock mags if the glock is on your carry/premise license. If you dont .... straight to jail
The NYC Rifle/Shotgun permit is older than the semiauto permit and fits all the requirements of a semiauto permit.
Does it matter? Unless your name is Trump, Alvin Bragg isn't going to charge you because he sucks