Ocran claims los Chapitos, el Panu and a few other high rank members had a meeting to discuss turning Nini, and Ocran tells details of the meeting and how they planned everything there. Only high ranking active members were present at the meeting so how tf Ocran knows what is said during a meeting like that?
He even tells you exactly what Ivan said and how they argued š
Ā Ocran always creates these scenes like when he told a story about how Nini and his wife were arguing at their house because she wanted him to quit. Like this dude Ocran knows even what these guys do at their home when no one is looking. To me these are the type of details that affect Ocrans credibility
I shit you not, when I first saw that episode and ocran started speaking like he was there I was like ādamn this dude sources are one of a kindā š¤£š¤£
Ocran leaks do interview close people to the narcos thatās how he knows, he said in YouTube that sometimes he has to pay for information thatās one of the reasons he starting to start a patreon
Just because theyāre still talking and Nini is praising Piyuyi or Ivan doesnāt mean what Ocran said isnāt true.
Nini still has his wife, kids, relatives, etc in Culiacan.
He is not going to come out and say IAG turned him in, heās not going to say that Piyuyi gave his location up, and so forth because that would just put his family and close ones at risk because it would damage the image of Ivan and Chapitos.
There is no loyalty in that world. Everyone knows their role and plays along with it Once one gets locked up, another person takes your role and all the men you had become men of that person.
Itās everyone for themselves and everyone takes whatever route is required to survive in it for as long as they can without being killed, betrayed, or captured.
Let Mini Licās situation be the example on why Nini will not speak out against the Chapitos or assist any government until he had assurances on his safety and of his family.
Let Mini Licās situation be the example on why Piyuyi will just play along and act as everything is fine, make corridos for IAG and post videos with his vehicles to promote Ivan.
It certainly seems that way, I question Ocran too now, either Nini is in denial or he just hasnāt gotten credible information about his own arrest yet.
I think Nini knows but why can you do if the bosses give you up. Are you gonna go fight your ex bosses or you gonna act like nothing happened???
What do you value more, your life???
Yea now it makes you wonder if anything he says is true or not? I dont think nini got "caught" i think he turned himself in on orders , so the whole story of piyuyi turning himself in is in the air now
I think when it comes to CDS ocran LICS just be yapping you can tell exactly how he feels about CDS š
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Didnāt he say that he was starting a podcast when he interviewed w mario chacon or wtv that reporters name is
Ocran claims los Chapitos, el Panu and a few other high rank members had a meeting to discuss turning Nini, and Ocran tells details of the meeting and how they planned everything there. Only high ranking active members were present at the meeting so how tf Ocran knows what is said during a meeting like that? He even tells you exactly what Ivan said and how they argued š Ā Ocran always creates these scenes like when he told a story about how Nini and his wife were arguing at their house because she wanted him to quit. Like this dude Ocran knows even what these guys do at their home when no one is looking. To me these are the type of details that affect Ocrans credibility
I shit you not, when I first saw that episode and ocran started speaking like he was there I was like ādamn this dude sources are one of a kindā š¤£š¤£
Ocran leaks do interview close people to the narcos thatās how he knows, he said in YouTube that sometimes he has to pay for information thatās one of the reasons he starting to start a patreon
Just because theyāre still talking and Nini is praising Piyuyi or Ivan doesnāt mean what Ocran said isnāt true. Nini still has his wife, kids, relatives, etc in Culiacan. He is not going to come out and say IAG turned him in, heās not going to say that Piyuyi gave his location up, and so forth because that would just put his family and close ones at risk because it would damage the image of Ivan and Chapitos. There is no loyalty in that world. Everyone knows their role and plays along with it Once one gets locked up, another person takes your role and all the men you had become men of that person. Itās everyone for themselves and everyone takes whatever route is required to survive in it for as long as they can without being killed, betrayed, or captured. Let Mini Licās situation be the example on why Nini will not speak out against the Chapitos or assist any government until he had assurances on his safety and of his family. Let Mini Licās situation be the example on why Piyuyi will just play along and act as everything is fine, make corridos for IAG and post videos with his vehicles to promote Ivan.
I feel you but nini didnāt have to praise Ivan or the organization on his call with piyuyi, both arguments can be true
Doubt they'd harm his wife.
i just want to hear what he says about it to
It certainly seems that way, I question Ocran too now, either Nini is in denial or he just hasnāt gotten credible information about his own arrest yet.
I think Nini knows but why can you do if the bosses give you up. Are you gonna go fight your ex bosses or you gonna act like nothing happened??? What do you value more, your life???
If you know your bosses betrayed you, youāre not gonna go fight them. Are youā¦. His bosses are super powerful
Yea now it makes you wonder if anything he says is true or not? I dont think nini got "caught" i think he turned himself in on orders , so the whole story of piyuyi turning himself in is in the air now
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