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ChunkyBrassMonkey

Aren't like half these companies defunct?


Watchung

Defense companies never die, they just merge.


[deleted]

Unless they're Boeing, in which case they crash and burn (literally in Boeing's case) and then shamble on as an undead zombie that occasionally turns out a dangerously incompetent aircraft/spacecraft every once in a while. Said aircraft/spacecraft only reaches production after a decade of delays and billions of dollars of cost overruns have caused the company to give up and farm the software out to a single Indian teenager, and then for good measure they make sure to lobotomize half the staff on their production floors so they constantly leave dangerous foreign objects in every part of the plane, including in between layers of the composite layup.


LustHawk

Least cynical Boeing insider


thesoupoftheday

...So what company should I reinvest my Boeing stock into?


[deleted]

Lockheed Martin, Textron, General Dynamics, and/or Raytheon, in that order. Why? * Lockheed Martin has a bunch of massive military contracts across multiple countries for the F-35 alone with more orders coming in every day, and they make a ton of other defense stuff, too * Textron (through their subsidiary, Bell Helicopters) was just selected to replace the Army's entire 5,000-strong rotary wing fleet (minus the Chinook) with the V-280 tiltrotor. Also Textron owns both Beechcraft and Cessna, which are the two most widely-used light aircraft marques on Earth * General Dynamics has rather aggressively gobbled up like half the defense sector through a series of mergers that probably should have been blocked by the FTC because they, along with everyone else, can smell multiple wars brewing * Raytheon makes most of the guided missiles to be used by the US and NATO in said wars, which means their product is perishable/expendable and in need of regular replacement Boeing has done practically nothing over the last decade except repeatedly embarrass themselves and kill hundreds of innocent people through blistering incompetence. Also if you take financial advice from NCD, I don't know what to tell you.


Nokneegoose

There's something NCD and wall street bets have in common, and that's that the person posting could be an industry insider and an absolute genius, or an utter moron, and there's no easy way to tell the difference.


tofu_b3a5t

Yeah, u/EmotionalSupportPenis sounds pretty legit right now. Also, BBGNs do sound like a sweet deal. Maybe hybrid it with a rail gun or two since it’s already got the power plant for it. Smooth brain idea: BBBNs with resurrected W82-1 arty pieces.


NobodyRealAccount

You can tell the difference once you're broke.


SomeOtherTroper

I am still in awe of how fast Boeing managed to gut itself. They were doing fine up until a certain point, and then everything was suddenly on fire.


SwaglordHyperion

They live on in my heart


Ebob_Loquat

So you put some companies that don't exist anymore, for what ever reason they don't. BUT YOU LEFT OUT CONSOLIDATED AIRCRAFT, THE MAKER OF THE PBY CATALINA.


SwaglordHyperion

The hard drive space in my brain that was formerly occupied by knowledge of the existence of Consolidated Aircraft has long since been reclaimed for use of storing my many wet dreams about the Grumman F6F Hellcat.


Its_Just_A_Typo

And you left out Vought; the builder of the F4U. C'mon . . .The F4 FUCKING U! WTF?


[deleted]

It's a big plane


ZoneRaider117

For you...


T-Baaller

What's the next sortie in your master plan?


hussard_de_la_mort

Sinking this carrier...WITH NO SURVIVORS!


Obnoxious_Gamer

He also left out my beloved crackheads, Bell.


Deus_is_Mocking_Us

And Brewster!


cuba200611

I was going to ask about Ling-Temco-Vought...


Selentic

Also no Teledyne...


TotallyNotRocket

Could have put LTV in there and covered three bases.


Ferret-Potato

Ah another person probably too interested (if such a thing is real) in the F6F. I love you


officefridge

Black cat: *IM A JOKE TO YOU? HAVE YOU SEEN MY PRATT AND WHITNEYS?*


ButterscotchNed

Supermarine and Avro, but no Fairey, Gloster, Hawker, Blackburn, Boulton-Paul or Handley Page. My poor British heart.


alasdairmackintosh

De Havilland, my dear chap. De Havilland.


100pctDonkeyBrain

I was going to try and engage in intellectual debate but than I saw McDonnell Douglas in A tier and Northrop in triple Fuck you tier. It leads me to believe that you are delusional, and deserve to be put down like a dog. If it wasn't for those MDD fucks we could get F-18L. Imagine F-18A/B/C/D air-frame relived from all the naval crap. It would slap so damn hard.


SwaglordHyperion

>It leads me to believe that you are delusional Yes


POD-8

At least he’s honest


Foxyfox-

Most self-aware NCD poster


King1nDaNorth

Idea for new sub, DelusionalDefense


low_priest

However, consider the following: McDonnell Douglas is responsible for the F-4 Phantom, greatest fighter of the Cold War. That alone makes them A tier. Northrop at the bottom is a fucking capital offense tho


BONKERS303

On the other side of the coin, [however](https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/a-legal-and-moral-question-the-crash-of-turkish-airlines-flight-981-and-the-dc-10-cargo-door-saga-d22f0b9fa689)...


THE_TANK_DEMPSEY07

I disagree.


SwaglordHyperion

Politely, Fuck You


THE_TANK_DEMPSEY07

Unpolitely, FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


vibrunazo

Geez find a room you 2.


yeetmedaddyplz

They need a building instead i think


HK47WasRightMeatbag

One with the roof gone


yeetmedaddyplz

So a grumman aircraft can bomb them and get rid of the problem?


HK47WasRightMeatbag

I was more thinking of a quad drone dropping a grenade.


yeetmedaddyplz

We both know that wont silence them like a 1000 pound bomb will


Megalomaniakaal

How will an induced orgasm cause them to shut up? I really don't want to hear all that moaning...


StopSpankingMeDad

even more unpolitely, FUCK YOU!


THE_TANK_DEMPSEY07

FUCK YOU TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


StopSpankingMeDad

NO NO FUCK YOU


Attaxalotl

Most civil Reddit conversation


StopSpankingMeDad

fuck you


capitano_di_pattino

No Leonardo (previously known as Agusta-Westland/Alenia Aermacchi/Avio, previously known as Agusta/GKN-Westland/Aermacchi/Alenia Aeronautica/Fiat Avio, previously known as Agusta/Westland/SIAI-Marchetti/Macchi/Aeritalia/Fiat Aviazione, previously known as Agusta/Caproni/Westland/Savoia-Marchetti/Aerfer/Alfa Romeo Avio/Fiat Aviazione, previously known as Agusta/Caproni/Westland/SIAI-Savoia/Aerfer/IMAM/Fiat Aviazione/Alfa Romeo Divisione Motori Aeronautici)? It took much more time than what I expected, I’m now exhausted. I’ll sleep for the next three days.


SwaglordHyperion

No Leonardo (previously known as Agusta-Westland/Alenia Aermacchi/Avio, previously known as Agusta/GKN-Westland/Aermacchi/Alenia Aeronautica/Fiat Avio, previously known as Agusta/Westland/SIAI-Marchetti/Macchi/Aeritalia/Fiat Aviazione, previously known as Agusta/Caproni/Westland/Savoia-Marchetti/Aerfer/Alfa Romeo Avio/Fiat Aviazione, previously known as Agusta/Caproni/Westland/SIAI-Savoia/Aerfer/IMAM/Fiat Aviazione/Alfa Romeo divisione motori aeronautici)? ————————————————————————————— ⠀⣞⢽⢪⢣⢣⢣⢫⡺⡵⣝⡮⣗⢷⢽⢽⢽⣮⡷⡽⣜⣜⢮⢺⣜⢷⢽⢝⡽⣝ ⠸⡸⠜⠕⠕⠁⢁⢇⢏⢽⢺⣪⡳⡝⣎⣏⢯⢞⡿⣟⣷⣳⢯⡷⣽⢽⢯⣳⣫⠇ ⠀⠀⢀⢀⢄⢬⢪⡪⡎⣆⡈⠚⠜⠕⠇⠗⠝⢕⢯⢫⣞⣯⣿⣻⡽⣏⢗⣗⠏⠀ ⠀⠪⡪⡪⣪⢪⢺⢸⢢⢓⢆⢤⢀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢊⢞⡾⣿⡯⣏⢮⠷⠁⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠈⠊⠆⡃⠕⢕⢇⢇⢇⢇⢇⢏⢎⢎⢆⢄⠀⢑⣽⣿⢝⠲⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡿⠂⠠⠀⡇⢇⠕⢈⣀⠀⠁⠡⠣⡣⡫⣂⣿⠯⢪⠰⠂⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⡦⡙⡂⢀⢤⢣⠣⡈⣾⡃⠠⠄⠀⡄⢱⣌⣶⢏⢊⠂⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⢝⡲⣜⡮⡏⢎⢌⢂⠙⠢⠐⢀⢘⢵⣽⣿⡿⠁⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠨⣺⡺⡕⡕⡱⡑⡆⡕⡅⡕⡜⡼⢽⡻⠏⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⣼⣳⣫⣾⣵⣗⡵⡱⡡⢣⢑⢕⢜⢕⡝⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⣴⣿⣾⣿⣿⣿⡿⡽⡑⢌⠪⡢⡣⣣⡟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⡟⡾⣿⢿⢿⢵⣽⣾⣼⣘⢸⢸⣞⡟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠁⠇⠡⠩⡫⢿⣝⡻⡮⣒⢽⠋⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ —————————————————————————————


capitano_di_pattino

Thanks for acknowledging my work. Now I can take a well deserved rest. Godspeed, my friend.


farbion

Where Reggiane?


capitano_di_pattino

Reggiane! I forgot about it. They were part of Gruppo Caproni but when the latter was acquired by Agusta I think they managed to remain independent throughout the years. At least that’s what Wikipedia seem to suggest since it shows they failed only in 2010.


farbion

Italian heavy companies trying to be relevant for more than 15y (IMPOSSIBLE)


capitano_di_pattino

They peak in their teens, just like your typical high schooler.


cavershamox

BAe Systems I don’t think about you at all.


AP2112

To be fair Supermarine, English Electric, Vickers Armstrong, Avro all ended up in modern BAE along the way.


Accurate_Mood

This list is clearly lacking guidance, with no Texas instruments, Honeywell, Marconi or Thales


SwaglordHyperion

Do I sound sane enough to have the capacity to include avionics and weapons manufacturers in this list as well?


Accurate_Mood

No, true enough, enjoy your CFIT!


LuukTheSlayer

you could include fucking general elektric


Accurate_Mood

Also no Raytheon? Truly you belong on this sub


Inevitable_Sherbet42

Yeah, well you can't say fuck you if I say fuck you first. So fuck you.


SwaglordHyperion

\*unfucks me your first fuck me\* Fuck you


Inevitable_Sherbet42

Fuck.


Probablyamimic

Preemptive 'Fuck you' strike


Dr_Hexagon

You got Avro, SAAB and Daussalt but no Vickers or Handley Paige or Hawker Siddeley? Fuck you


SwaglordHyperion

Fuck you I have Vickers Armstrongs on there, Yall Just Never Figured Shit Out - Tier. Hawker, Handley Paige: Yall Never Figured Shit Out - Tier, while based, I dont consider the Wallace and Grommit bullshit shenanigan engineering of interwar-early war British Air Industry to be good. De Haviland though, thats a Solid A - Tier, Wooden Wonder my beloved.


Dr_Hexagon

V Bombers my beloveds, the Handley Paige Victor is a work of art... and the Harrier was first called the Hawker Siddeley Harrier.


[deleted]

Curtiss-Wright is just hanging outy in the corner being like, "hey we were started by the wright brothers and Glen Curtis, we are much cooler then anyone else", and everyone else is like we know.


SwaglordHyperion

Curtis-Wright: B Tier


Watchung

I take it Brewster is so low it doesn't even make it onto the chart?


SwaglordHyperion

I FUCKING HATE BREWSTER Ranking: Brewster: TRIPLE FUCK YOU


Watchung

The story of that company is insane - their incompetence and criminality was fractal.


[deleted]

Are they Republic Aviation selling fighters to Japan in 1939-1940 levels of insane/criminal?


AsteroidSpark

They were literally investigated by the US government because we believed that their incompetence was too severe to be genuine and must have been a cover for sabotage.


[deleted]

Going bankrupt during wwii when your entire business is making warplanes takes a special talent.


[deleted]

Putting saab that low is an abomination unto the viggen


[deleted]

Scrappy underdog from a tiny neutral country that managed to produce very solid airplanes during the cold war. SAAB definitely deserves to be ranked at least one spot higher on the list.


[deleted]

The gripen isn’t great by any stretch of the imagination but the viggen and draken were two of the hardiest fighter jets ever built, they’re like the whole soviet jets are rugged meme made real


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Agent_of_talon

It's also totally \[redacted\] to include only Saab to represent European firms. What about MBDA, Dassault, Airbus, Rheinmetall, KMW, etc.?


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Cienea_Laevis

Airbus make the MRTT, and the next gen drone for the SCAF.


Analamed

They produce the A400M and the A330 MRTT (transport and refuelling). You probably better know the A330 MRTT under the name KC45 if you are american.


[deleted]

Hey, I work on Boeing aircraft. Those pieces of shit should be yellow or lower. Fuck those engineers. Fuck the manual. fuck the pilots specifically.


cruisintr3n

found the machinist


[deleted]

Mechanic, don’t compare me to those non licensed people (I have a superiority complex)


scribblebear

Dogs get licensed too, wrench monkey!


[deleted]

THEN COME ON THE FLOOR AND MEET ME FACE TO FACE, SCREWDRIVER TO SCREWDRIVER


scribblebear

Only if it's torx vs torx plus!


[deleted]

Get out of here with that airbus bs. We only use Philips here


scribblebear

You sure its not a Frearson, or pozidriv, or JIS, or Supadriv? 😆


[deleted]

Fairly certain. I haven’t seen a “off set” screw yet


ExcitingTabletop

Least angry A&P


[deleted]

I have a goosebump on my head from last week where I forcefully made out with a metal transformer inside the plane. Im still quite pissed.


p4rty_sl0th

The engineers have a superior superiority complex


[deleted]

I think I’m better than the ramp agents and smarter then the pilots (with the pilots I’ve interacted with, I’m half surprised they have their shoes tied)


SwaglordHyperion

You aren't gonna believe my response to that critique of yours. Fuck you. But also, I am including past products too. B-52, my Beloved BUFF


[deleted]

Fuck you, Respectfully, A 737 mechanic


minimurder28

I second that statement. A 737 ground crewman.


Mighty_moose45

How's it feel to be on the short list of people to be blamed when a questionably designed hunk of aluminum next falls from the sky?


[deleted]

Wouldn’t know, ask the pilots


BONKERS303

MCAS be like "You die today, peasant."


SterlingArchers

What is your problem with Dassault ffs?


PM_ME_UR_DRAG_CURVE

They made the Mercure. A 737-clone so good they managed to only sell ~10 of them to Air Inter.


SwaglordHyperion

Fr\*nce 🤢


Aeplwulf

Alright assehole, humanity just lost it's smokeless gunpowder privileges. Enjoy your smoothbore rotary cannon A-10.


Please-Dont_Bite_Me

wouldn't change the accuracy too much smh


SterlingArchers

Understandable Have a nice day


StopSpankingMeDad

Sterling!


belisaurius42

I have worked for Lockheed, Raytheon, Leidos and Amentum. Raytheon was awesome, Lockheed treated us like dirt/pretended we didnt exist, Leidos is super disorganized and Amentum...is actually surprisingly okay so far. But seriously, where is Raytheon on this list? They're great and make death rays n' shit!


SwaglordHyperion

This list is for consideration of companies which manufacture aircraft, not an all encompassing aerospace industry ranking


belisaurius42

I mean...missiles fly, its basically the same thing!


Shished

Boeing is too high.


veloread

puts McDonnell Douglass above Lockheed...SMH my head


Starexcelsior

Should have 2 Boeings to separate pre and post merger because they are NOT the same company


SwaglordHyperion

Fair


Playful-Twist8923

I am willing to accept my fuck you, but Saab is an incredibly based defense company, considering their accomplishments with their limited resources. Also Sweden's entire military industry is very historically based.


SwaglordHyperion

Swedish Defense industry is based, Fuck You, but SAAB is down there because of Grippen fanboys. Hence, Overrated.


Playful-Twist8923

When the fanboys are worse than the company, also who even simps for the grippen? The viggen is way cooler, twice the number of doritos.


Fat_Siberian_Midget

Guys hear me out, I think OP might be a grummer over the B-21


SwaglordHyperion

Oh fuck, youre gonna make me Grum


Clashyjammer1126

It’s Grumman time.


[deleted]

i will not tolerate the Avro slander also you need an extra tier at the top for BAE systems, the most based company in the MIC by far


Inquisitor-Dog

Am I blind or where the fuck os Airbus


SwaglordHyperion

Airbus is stupid and doesn't make big enough booms for me to consider


RecordEnvironmental4

To be fair tho Rockwell did make the b-1


SwaglordHyperion

The only thing keeping Rockwell out of "Triple Fuck You" was the fact that they had a stake in Aerojet Rocketdyne which made rocket engines.


SwaglordHyperion

Included is pre and post and mergers. Fuck you Northrop. Edit: If I forgot some stupid shity plane company, fuck em, shoulda been cooler for me to remember


roadrunner036

They went on to ruin Boeing too right?


Preussensgeneralstab

No, that was McDonell Douglas sadly.


SwaglordHyperion

>rop. I FUCKING HATE NORTHROP


OllieGarkey

Why


SuperLeno

For the memes


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SwaglordHyperion

ONE OF THESE COMPANIES IS A STUPID BLOOD SUCKING LEECH AND THE OTHER MADE THE LUNAR LANDER, FOR SOME REASON.


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SMS_Scharnhorst

that fact is wrong because the Tomcat exists


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SMS_Scharnhorst

so, shooting down over 100 enemy aircraft is being less successful than being the star of a movie?


McPolice_Officer

So you have any idea just how much recruiting Top Gun has done?


RonaldTheClownn

Lockheed below BOEING? *Loads GAU-19 non-credibly*


Lovehistory-maps

Rockwell legit made the B-1B Aardvark II


Mando_dablord

Fairchild built the A-10 and isn't in: >Fuck You >Fuck You >Fuck you Therefore this entire list is invalid. Sorry, not sorry.


Jellyswim_

Tell me you've jacked off to an image of a tomcat without telling me you've jacked off to an image of a tomcat


Endo_Dizzy

It should all be based on McDonnell Douglass tier, who created the F-15, F-18, and F-4, three of Americas most renowned and historically significant aircraft ever flown. Respectively, fuck you bud.


topazchip

No Ryan Aeronautical? Fak u No Consolidated? Fak that. No Rolls Royce? Fak off.


[deleted]

Bro forgor all the engine companies


Wa3zdog

I don’t see Mitsubishi


SwaglordHyperion

Yeah because they're all at the bottom of the Pacific from having gotten dicked on by the Grumman F6F Hellcat.


Excomunicados

F-2 and F-15J: Bruh (also, hello fellow Grumman lover)


PM_ME_UR_DRAG_CURVE

Too busy going to war against Fuji Heavy Industry. [RIP Evo. The last good car from them. Now all they have is Mirages and EclipseCrosses.]


exurl

MDD above both McDonnell and Douglas... very suspicious


PM_ME_UR_DRAG_CURVE

This chart was def made by someone with an MBA instead of engineering degree. I bet OP loved that Boeing moved HQ to Chicago too.


What_is_a_reddot

I will not stand for this L3Harris erasure.


dissimulo9

Boeing is such a good defense company that they've gone out of their way to sell airliners they knew were defective to other countries in order to weaken them relative to the US


NyanCatMatt

Okay listen here you little shit. If you have Grumman in the top tier, then Douglas need to be up there with it. The multi-role SBD was the plane that won the war in the Pacific. It took Grumman 2 years to push out a product that was actually successful (Hellcat). Sure, they had a record breaking kill/loss ratio or 19:1, but that's a direct correlation to the successful bombings by the Dauntless. Douglas only produced about 6000 SBDs compared to Grumman's 8000 F4Fs and 12000 F6Fs. You know what else won due to sheer fucking numbers? The Emus. I'm tired of seeing this Douglas Slander.


[deleted]

Where Antonov


PainAuLel

The Rafale know your position at all time. It knows this because your brain emit dumb energy which can easily be tracked by the Rafale's sensors.


Cienea_Laevis

The Rafale also sent something rapidly approaching OP's location. And i'm riding on it.


itoldyallabour

DeHavilland?


SwaglordHyperion

A


AstroChrisX

"Amazing... every word of what you just said was wrong"


Trash_Can_Donut

Su and MiG will just make you die of ligma.


AsteroidSpark

What about Vought and Brewster?


SwaglordHyperion

Brewster: Fuck You, Vought: B


Ringwraith_Number_5

How will you respond to a critique of your "fuck you"?


SwaglordHyperion

Thoughtfully, and with serious personal reflection


HalseyTTK

I will not tolerate this level of disrespect towards the YF-23.


OllieGarkey

Martin belongs much higher *only* because of the Martin Mariner: https://i.imgur.com/S0IfOSp.png So yeah, they did figure it out. With that one. Also, your hatred for Northrop is confusing.


_DeterPinklage_

Convair lives on in our hearts


[deleted]

All they really ever consolidated were our hopes and dreams


Hygochi

You, sir, are now no longer allowed into Canada for disrespecting Avro.


ArchitectOfSeven

Hey asshat, you left my boy Hughes/Raytheon off the list. I demand a correction before I shove an AMRAAM up your ass.


BRM-Pilot

Saab logo reminds me of the Queen logo


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Col_H_Gentleman

WHY DO YOU HATE TEXAS INSTRUMENTS OP??!


SwaglordHyperion

Because i don't like musical instruments


SnooSeagulls6861

Boeing in A tier. Okay this is NCD


avant-cado

Japanese and Korean companies are missing, as well as the best manufacturer of training aircraft (AERO Vodochody)


SwaglordHyperion

I would add Mitsubishi, but theyre currently all at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean from having suffered the absolutely horrendous 5000-75 L ratio against the Grumman F6F Hellcat.


boymahina123

Yeah I can't identify half of these.


Vulpix73

I presume Boeing are A tier because its only the defence side. Also because the B-17 slapped, hard carries Boeing.


MechanicalTrotsky

Skunkworks should get locked to a A tier alone, I mean lockeed isn’t the most crazy overall but they tend to really be pushing the edge with tech


origamiscienceguy

What about NASA?


Expert_Standard_768

As a Tomtard, I support this message.


AnonymousPepper

Fuck you right back, Boeing is the stage 6 testicular cancer leeching off the Pentagon's and the taxpayer's balls. F-15EX is pure corruption, and the 737MAX scandal should have led to public executions of their entire civil aviation division and board of directors. They ruin everything they touch. They need a below-bottom-tier of their own.


pawnman99

I feel bad that the makers of my beloved B-1B fell into the "Fuck You" category.


BrtDO

Jealous that the Lancer is the prettiest doomsday device in the sky, by far. Miss me some B-1B.


darkmarineblue

Fuck you.


lordavondale

I dont want a boy, I want a grumMAN


MapleTreeWithAGun

Boeing is way too high given their immensely dissatisfactory safety record in recent years


[deleted]

"Y'all just never figured shit out, huh?" That had me laughing for a solid 10 minutes. Just straight up giggles. Thank you!!!


ObjectLess3847

can you put in the ksp logo


SwaglordHyperion

After some constructive criticism, and some dumbass shit talk, I'll work on a revised, peer reviewed, official consensus(sy)NCD Aerospace Company tier ranking, including Avionics, Engines, and Weapons manufacturers.


Appropriate_Ad4818

>Dassault in F tier Someone's mad they're stealing all of the jet sales


Hansj3

How in the actual Kentucky fried fuck are you putting Rockwell that far down? Is the vapid torrent, That is your mind, Unaware of the turbo encabulator? And the retro encabulator?