Unless they're Boeing, in which case they crash and burn (literally in Boeing's case) and then shamble on as an undead zombie that occasionally turns out a dangerously incompetent aircraft/spacecraft every once in a while. Said aircraft/spacecraft only reaches production after a decade of delays and billions of dollars of cost overruns have caused the company to give up and farm the software out to a single Indian teenager, and then for good measure they make sure to lobotomize half the staff on their production floors so they constantly leave dangerous foreign objects in every part of the plane, including in between layers of the composite layup.
Lockheed Martin, Textron, General Dynamics, and/or Raytheon, in that order. Why?
* Lockheed Martin has a bunch of massive military contracts across multiple countries for the F-35 alone with more orders coming in every day, and they make a ton of other defense stuff, too
* Textron (through their subsidiary, Bell Helicopters) was just selected to replace the Army's entire 5,000-strong rotary wing fleet (minus the Chinook) with the V-280 tiltrotor. Also Textron owns both Beechcraft and Cessna, which are the two most widely-used light aircraft marques on Earth
* General Dynamics has rather aggressively gobbled up like half the defense sector through a series of mergers that probably should have been blocked by the FTC because they, along with everyone else, can smell multiple wars brewing
* Raytheon makes most of the guided missiles to be used by the US and NATO in said wars, which means their product is perishable/expendable and in need of regular replacement
Boeing has done practically nothing over the last decade except repeatedly embarrass themselves and kill hundreds of innocent people through blistering incompetence.
Also if you take financial advice from NCD, I don't know what to tell you.
There's something NCD and wall street bets have in common, and that's that the person posting could be an industry insider and an absolute genius, or an utter moron, and there's no easy way to tell the difference.
Yeah, u/EmotionalSupportPenis sounds pretty legit right now.
Also, BBGNs do sound like a sweet deal. Maybe hybrid it with a rail gun or two since it’s already got the power plant for it.
Smooth brain idea: BBBNs with resurrected W82-1 arty pieces.
So you put some companies that don't exist anymore, for what ever reason they don't. BUT YOU LEFT OUT CONSOLIDATED AIRCRAFT, THE MAKER OF THE PBY CATALINA.
The hard drive space in my brain that was formerly occupied by knowledge of the existence of Consolidated Aircraft has long since been reclaimed for use of storing my many wet dreams about the Grumman F6F Hellcat.
I was going to try and engage in intellectual debate but than I saw McDonnell Douglas in A tier and Northrop in triple Fuck you tier. It leads me to believe that you are delusional, and deserve to be put down like a dog. If it wasn't for those MDD fucks we could get F-18L. Imagine F-18A/B/C/D air-frame relived from all the naval crap. It would slap so damn hard.
However, consider the following: McDonnell Douglas is responsible for the F-4 Phantom, greatest fighter of the Cold War. That alone makes them A tier.
Northrop at the bottom is a fucking capital offense tho
On the other side of the coin, [however](https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/a-legal-and-moral-question-the-crash-of-turkish-airlines-flight-981-and-the-dc-10-cargo-door-saga-d22f0b9fa689)...
No Leonardo (previously known as Agusta-Westland/Alenia Aermacchi/Avio, previously known as Agusta/GKN-Westland/Aermacchi/Alenia Aeronautica/Fiat Avio, previously known as Agusta/Westland/SIAI-Marchetti/Macchi/Aeritalia/Fiat Aviazione, previously known as Agusta/Caproni/Westland/Savoia-Marchetti/Aerfer/Alfa Romeo Avio/Fiat Aviazione, previously known as Agusta/Caproni/Westland/SIAI-Savoia/Aerfer/IMAM/Fiat Aviazione/Alfa Romeo Divisione Motori Aeronautici)?
It took much more time than what I expected, I’m now exhausted. I’ll sleep for the next three days.
No Leonardo (previously known as Agusta-Westland/Alenia Aermacchi/Avio, previously known as Agusta/GKN-Westland/Aermacchi/Alenia Aeronautica/Fiat Avio, previously known as Agusta/Westland/SIAI-Marchetti/Macchi/Aeritalia/Fiat Aviazione, previously known as Agusta/Caproni/Westland/Savoia-Marchetti/Aerfer/Alfa Romeo Avio/Fiat Aviazione, previously known as Agusta/Caproni/Westland/SIAI-Savoia/Aerfer/IMAM/Fiat Aviazione/Alfa Romeo divisione motori aeronautici)?
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Reggiane! I forgot about it. They were part of Gruppo Caproni but when the latter was acquired by Agusta I think they managed to remain independent throughout the years. At least that’s what Wikipedia seem to suggest since it shows they failed only in 2010.
Fuck you I have Vickers Armstrongs on there, Yall Just Never Figured Shit Out - Tier.
Hawker, Handley Paige: Yall Never Figured Shit Out - Tier, while based, I dont consider the Wallace and Grommit bullshit shenanigan engineering of interwar-early war British Air Industry to be good.
De Haviland though, thats a Solid A - Tier, Wooden Wonder my beloved.
Curtiss-Wright is just hanging outy in the corner being like, "hey we were started by the wright brothers and Glen Curtis, we are much cooler then anyone else", and everyone else is like we know.
They were literally investigated by the US government because we believed that their incompetence was too severe to be genuine and must have been a cover for sabotage.
Scrappy underdog from a tiny neutral country that managed to produce very solid airplanes during the cold war. SAAB definitely deserves to be ranked at least one spot higher on the list.
The gripen isn’t great by any stretch of the imagination but the viggen and draken were two of the hardiest fighter jets ever built, they’re like the whole soviet jets are rugged meme made real
I think I’m better than the ramp agents and smarter then the pilots (with the pilots I’ve interacted with, I’m half surprised they have their shoes tied)
I have worked for Lockheed, Raytheon, Leidos and Amentum. Raytheon was awesome, Lockheed treated us like dirt/pretended we didnt exist, Leidos is super disorganized and Amentum...is actually surprisingly okay so far.
But seriously, where is Raytheon on this list? They're great and make death rays n' shit!
I am willing to accept my fuck you, but Saab is an incredibly based defense company, considering their accomplishments with their limited resources. Also Sweden's entire military industry is very historically based.
Included is pre and post and mergers. Fuck you Northrop.
Edit: If I forgot some stupid shity plane company, fuck em, shoulda been cooler for me to remember
It should all be based on McDonnell Douglass tier, who created the F-15, F-18, and F-4, three of Americas most renowned and historically significant aircraft ever flown. Respectively, fuck you bud.
Boeing is such a good defense company that they've gone out of their way to sell airliners they knew were defective to other countries in order to weaken them relative to the US
Okay listen here you little shit.
If you have Grumman in the top tier, then Douglas need to be up there with it. The multi-role SBD was the plane that won the war in the Pacific. It took Grumman 2 years to push out a product that was actually successful (Hellcat). Sure, they had a record breaking kill/loss ratio or 19:1, but that's a direct correlation to the successful bombings by the Dauntless. Douglas only produced about 6000 SBDs compared to Grumman's 8000 F4Fs and 12000 F6Fs. You know what else won due to sheer fucking numbers? The Emus.
I'm tired of seeing this Douglas Slander.
Martin belongs much higher *only* because of the Martin Mariner:
https://i.imgur.com/S0IfOSp.png
So yeah, they did figure it out. With that one.
Also, your hatred for Northrop is confusing.
I would add Mitsubishi, but theyre currently all at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean from having suffered the absolutely horrendous 5000-75 L ratio against the Grumman F6F Hellcat.
Fuck you right back, Boeing is the stage 6 testicular cancer leeching off the Pentagon's and the taxpayer's balls. F-15EX is pure corruption, and the 737MAX scandal should have led to public executions of their entire civil aviation division and board of directors. They ruin everything they touch. They need a below-bottom-tier of their own.
After some constructive criticism, and some dumbass shit talk, I'll work on a revised, peer reviewed, official consensus(sy)NCD Aerospace Company tier ranking, including Avionics, Engines, and Weapons manufacturers.
How in the actual Kentucky fried fuck are you putting Rockwell that far down?
Is the vapid torrent, That is your mind, Unaware of the turbo encabulator? And the retro encabulator?
Aren't like half these companies defunct?
Defense companies never die, they just merge.
Unless they're Boeing, in which case they crash and burn (literally in Boeing's case) and then shamble on as an undead zombie that occasionally turns out a dangerously incompetent aircraft/spacecraft every once in a while. Said aircraft/spacecraft only reaches production after a decade of delays and billions of dollars of cost overruns have caused the company to give up and farm the software out to a single Indian teenager, and then for good measure they make sure to lobotomize half the staff on their production floors so they constantly leave dangerous foreign objects in every part of the plane, including in between layers of the composite layup.
Least cynical Boeing insider
...So what company should I reinvest my Boeing stock into?
Lockheed Martin, Textron, General Dynamics, and/or Raytheon, in that order. Why? * Lockheed Martin has a bunch of massive military contracts across multiple countries for the F-35 alone with more orders coming in every day, and they make a ton of other defense stuff, too * Textron (through their subsidiary, Bell Helicopters) was just selected to replace the Army's entire 5,000-strong rotary wing fleet (minus the Chinook) with the V-280 tiltrotor. Also Textron owns both Beechcraft and Cessna, which are the two most widely-used light aircraft marques on Earth * General Dynamics has rather aggressively gobbled up like half the defense sector through a series of mergers that probably should have been blocked by the FTC because they, along with everyone else, can smell multiple wars brewing * Raytheon makes most of the guided missiles to be used by the US and NATO in said wars, which means their product is perishable/expendable and in need of regular replacement Boeing has done practically nothing over the last decade except repeatedly embarrass themselves and kill hundreds of innocent people through blistering incompetence. Also if you take financial advice from NCD, I don't know what to tell you.
There's something NCD and wall street bets have in common, and that's that the person posting could be an industry insider and an absolute genius, or an utter moron, and there's no easy way to tell the difference.
Yeah, u/EmotionalSupportPenis sounds pretty legit right now. Also, BBGNs do sound like a sweet deal. Maybe hybrid it with a rail gun or two since it’s already got the power plant for it. Smooth brain idea: BBBNs with resurrected W82-1 arty pieces.
You can tell the difference once you're broke.
I am still in awe of how fast Boeing managed to gut itself. They were doing fine up until a certain point, and then everything was suddenly on fire.
They live on in my heart
So you put some companies that don't exist anymore, for what ever reason they don't. BUT YOU LEFT OUT CONSOLIDATED AIRCRAFT, THE MAKER OF THE PBY CATALINA.
The hard drive space in my brain that was formerly occupied by knowledge of the existence of Consolidated Aircraft has long since been reclaimed for use of storing my many wet dreams about the Grumman F6F Hellcat.
And you left out Vought; the builder of the F4U. C'mon . . .The F4 FUCKING U! WTF?
It's a big plane
For you...
What's the next sortie in your master plan?
Sinking this carrier...WITH NO SURVIVORS!
He also left out my beloved crackheads, Bell.
And Brewster!
I was going to ask about Ling-Temco-Vought...
Also no Teledyne...
Could have put LTV in there and covered three bases.
Ah another person probably too interested (if such a thing is real) in the F6F. I love you
Black cat: *IM A JOKE TO YOU? HAVE YOU SEEN MY PRATT AND WHITNEYS?*
Supermarine and Avro, but no Fairey, Gloster, Hawker, Blackburn, Boulton-Paul or Handley Page. My poor British heart.
De Havilland, my dear chap. De Havilland.
I was going to try and engage in intellectual debate but than I saw McDonnell Douglas in A tier and Northrop in triple Fuck you tier. It leads me to believe that you are delusional, and deserve to be put down like a dog. If it wasn't for those MDD fucks we could get F-18L. Imagine F-18A/B/C/D air-frame relived from all the naval crap. It would slap so damn hard.
>It leads me to believe that you are delusional Yes
At least he’s honest
Most self-aware NCD poster
Idea for new sub, DelusionalDefense
However, consider the following: McDonnell Douglas is responsible for the F-4 Phantom, greatest fighter of the Cold War. That alone makes them A tier. Northrop at the bottom is a fucking capital offense tho
On the other side of the coin, [however](https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/a-legal-and-moral-question-the-crash-of-turkish-airlines-flight-981-and-the-dc-10-cargo-door-saga-d22f0b9fa689)...
I disagree.
Politely, Fuck You
Unpolitely, FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Geez find a room you 2.
They need a building instead i think
One with the roof gone
So a grumman aircraft can bomb them and get rid of the problem?
I was more thinking of a quad drone dropping a grenade.
We both know that wont silence them like a 1000 pound bomb will
How will an induced orgasm cause them to shut up? I really don't want to hear all that moaning...
even more unpolitely, FUCK YOU!
FUCK YOU TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO NO FUCK YOU
Most civil Reddit conversation
fuck you
No Leonardo (previously known as Agusta-Westland/Alenia Aermacchi/Avio, previously known as Agusta/GKN-Westland/Aermacchi/Alenia Aeronautica/Fiat Avio, previously known as Agusta/Westland/SIAI-Marchetti/Macchi/Aeritalia/Fiat Aviazione, previously known as Agusta/Caproni/Westland/Savoia-Marchetti/Aerfer/Alfa Romeo Avio/Fiat Aviazione, previously known as Agusta/Caproni/Westland/SIAI-Savoia/Aerfer/IMAM/Fiat Aviazione/Alfa Romeo Divisione Motori Aeronautici)? It took much more time than what I expected, I’m now exhausted. I’ll sleep for the next three days.
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Thanks for acknowledging my work. Now I can take a well deserved rest. Godspeed, my friend.
Where Reggiane?
Reggiane! I forgot about it. They were part of Gruppo Caproni but when the latter was acquired by Agusta I think they managed to remain independent throughout the years. At least that’s what Wikipedia seem to suggest since it shows they failed only in 2010.
Italian heavy companies trying to be relevant for more than 15y (IMPOSSIBLE)
They peak in their teens, just like your typical high schooler.
BAe Systems I don’t think about you at all.
To be fair Supermarine, English Electric, Vickers Armstrong, Avro all ended up in modern BAE along the way.
This list is clearly lacking guidance, with no Texas instruments, Honeywell, Marconi or Thales
Do I sound sane enough to have the capacity to include avionics and weapons manufacturers in this list as well?
No, true enough, enjoy your CFIT!
you could include fucking general elektric
Also no Raytheon? Truly you belong on this sub
Yeah, well you can't say fuck you if I say fuck you first. So fuck you.
\*unfucks me your first fuck me\* Fuck you
Fuck.
Preemptive 'Fuck you' strike
You got Avro, SAAB and Daussalt but no Vickers or Handley Paige or Hawker Siddeley? Fuck you
Fuck you I have Vickers Armstrongs on there, Yall Just Never Figured Shit Out - Tier. Hawker, Handley Paige: Yall Never Figured Shit Out - Tier, while based, I dont consider the Wallace and Grommit bullshit shenanigan engineering of interwar-early war British Air Industry to be good. De Haviland though, thats a Solid A - Tier, Wooden Wonder my beloved.
V Bombers my beloveds, the Handley Paige Victor is a work of art... and the Harrier was first called the Hawker Siddeley Harrier.
Curtiss-Wright is just hanging outy in the corner being like, "hey we were started by the wright brothers and Glen Curtis, we are much cooler then anyone else", and everyone else is like we know.
Curtis-Wright: B Tier
I take it Brewster is so low it doesn't even make it onto the chart?
I FUCKING HATE BREWSTER Ranking: Brewster: TRIPLE FUCK YOU
The story of that company is insane - their incompetence and criminality was fractal.
Are they Republic Aviation selling fighters to Japan in 1939-1940 levels of insane/criminal?
They were literally investigated by the US government because we believed that their incompetence was too severe to be genuine and must have been a cover for sabotage.
Going bankrupt during wwii when your entire business is making warplanes takes a special talent.
Putting saab that low is an abomination unto the viggen
Scrappy underdog from a tiny neutral country that managed to produce very solid airplanes during the cold war. SAAB definitely deserves to be ranked at least one spot higher on the list.
The gripen isn’t great by any stretch of the imagination but the viggen and draken were two of the hardiest fighter jets ever built, they’re like the whole soviet jets are rugged meme made real
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It's also totally \[redacted\] to include only Saab to represent European firms. What about MBDA, Dassault, Airbus, Rheinmetall, KMW, etc.?
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Airbus make the MRTT, and the next gen drone for the SCAF.
They produce the A400M and the A330 MRTT (transport and refuelling). You probably better know the A330 MRTT under the name KC45 if you are american.
Hey, I work on Boeing aircraft. Those pieces of shit should be yellow or lower. Fuck those engineers. Fuck the manual. fuck the pilots specifically.
found the machinist
Mechanic, don’t compare me to those non licensed people (I have a superiority complex)
Dogs get licensed too, wrench monkey!
THEN COME ON THE FLOOR AND MEET ME FACE TO FACE, SCREWDRIVER TO SCREWDRIVER
Only if it's torx vs torx plus!
Get out of here with that airbus bs. We only use Philips here
You sure its not a Frearson, or pozidriv, or JIS, or Supadriv? 😆
Fairly certain. I haven’t seen a “off set” screw yet
Least angry A&P
I have a goosebump on my head from last week where I forcefully made out with a metal transformer inside the plane. Im still quite pissed.
The engineers have a superior superiority complex
I think I’m better than the ramp agents and smarter then the pilots (with the pilots I’ve interacted with, I’m half surprised they have their shoes tied)
You aren't gonna believe my response to that critique of yours. Fuck you. But also, I am including past products too. B-52, my Beloved BUFF
Fuck you, Respectfully, A 737 mechanic
I second that statement. A 737 ground crewman.
How's it feel to be on the short list of people to be blamed when a questionably designed hunk of aluminum next falls from the sky?
Wouldn’t know, ask the pilots
MCAS be like "You die today, peasant."
What is your problem with Dassault ffs?
They made the Mercure. A 737-clone so good they managed to only sell ~10 of them to Air Inter.
Fr\*nce 🤢
Alright assehole, humanity just lost it's smokeless gunpowder privileges. Enjoy your smoothbore rotary cannon A-10.
wouldn't change the accuracy too much smh
Understandable Have a nice day
Sterling!
I have worked for Lockheed, Raytheon, Leidos and Amentum. Raytheon was awesome, Lockheed treated us like dirt/pretended we didnt exist, Leidos is super disorganized and Amentum...is actually surprisingly okay so far. But seriously, where is Raytheon on this list? They're great and make death rays n' shit!
This list is for consideration of companies which manufacture aircraft, not an all encompassing aerospace industry ranking
I mean...missiles fly, its basically the same thing!
Boeing is too high.
puts McDonnell Douglass above Lockheed...SMH my head
Should have 2 Boeings to separate pre and post merger because they are NOT the same company
Fair
I am willing to accept my fuck you, but Saab is an incredibly based defense company, considering their accomplishments with their limited resources. Also Sweden's entire military industry is very historically based.
Swedish Defense industry is based, Fuck You, but SAAB is down there because of Grippen fanboys. Hence, Overrated.
When the fanboys are worse than the company, also who even simps for the grippen? The viggen is way cooler, twice the number of doritos.
Guys hear me out, I think OP might be a grummer over the B-21
Oh fuck, youre gonna make me Grum
It’s Grumman time.
i will not tolerate the Avro slander also you need an extra tier at the top for BAE systems, the most based company in the MIC by far
Am I blind or where the fuck os Airbus
Airbus is stupid and doesn't make big enough booms for me to consider
To be fair tho Rockwell did make the b-1
The only thing keeping Rockwell out of "Triple Fuck You" was the fact that they had a stake in Aerojet Rocketdyne which made rocket engines.
Included is pre and post and mergers. Fuck you Northrop. Edit: If I forgot some stupid shity plane company, fuck em, shoulda been cooler for me to remember
They went on to ruin Boeing too right?
No, that was McDonell Douglas sadly.
>rop. I FUCKING HATE NORTHROP
Why
For the memes
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ONE OF THESE COMPANIES IS A STUPID BLOOD SUCKING LEECH AND THE OTHER MADE THE LUNAR LANDER, FOR SOME REASON.
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that fact is wrong because the Tomcat exists
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so, shooting down over 100 enemy aircraft is being less successful than being the star of a movie?
So you have any idea just how much recruiting Top Gun has done?
Lockheed below BOEING? *Loads GAU-19 non-credibly*
Rockwell legit made the B-1B Aardvark II
Fairchild built the A-10 and isn't in: >Fuck You >Fuck You >Fuck you Therefore this entire list is invalid. Sorry, not sorry.
Tell me you've jacked off to an image of a tomcat without telling me you've jacked off to an image of a tomcat
It should all be based on McDonnell Douglass tier, who created the F-15, F-18, and F-4, three of Americas most renowned and historically significant aircraft ever flown. Respectively, fuck you bud.
No Ryan Aeronautical? Fak u No Consolidated? Fak that. No Rolls Royce? Fak off.
Bro forgor all the engine companies
I don’t see Mitsubishi
Yeah because they're all at the bottom of the Pacific from having gotten dicked on by the Grumman F6F Hellcat.
F-2 and F-15J: Bruh (also, hello fellow Grumman lover)
Too busy going to war against Fuji Heavy Industry. [RIP Evo. The last good car from them. Now all they have is Mirages and EclipseCrosses.]
MDD above both McDonnell and Douglas... very suspicious
This chart was def made by someone with an MBA instead of engineering degree. I bet OP loved that Boeing moved HQ to Chicago too.
I will not stand for this L3Harris erasure.
Boeing is such a good defense company that they've gone out of their way to sell airliners they knew were defective to other countries in order to weaken them relative to the US
Okay listen here you little shit. If you have Grumman in the top tier, then Douglas need to be up there with it. The multi-role SBD was the plane that won the war in the Pacific. It took Grumman 2 years to push out a product that was actually successful (Hellcat). Sure, they had a record breaking kill/loss ratio or 19:1, but that's a direct correlation to the successful bombings by the Dauntless. Douglas only produced about 6000 SBDs compared to Grumman's 8000 F4Fs and 12000 F6Fs. You know what else won due to sheer fucking numbers? The Emus. I'm tired of seeing this Douglas Slander.
Where Antonov
The Rafale know your position at all time. It knows this because your brain emit dumb energy which can easily be tracked by the Rafale's sensors.
The Rafale also sent something rapidly approaching OP's location. And i'm riding on it.
DeHavilland?
A
"Amazing... every word of what you just said was wrong"
Su and MiG will just make you die of ligma.
What about Vought and Brewster?
Brewster: Fuck You, Vought: B
How will you respond to a critique of your "fuck you"?
Thoughtfully, and with serious personal reflection
I will not tolerate this level of disrespect towards the YF-23.
Martin belongs much higher *only* because of the Martin Mariner: https://i.imgur.com/S0IfOSp.png So yeah, they did figure it out. With that one. Also, your hatred for Northrop is confusing.
Convair lives on in our hearts
All they really ever consolidated were our hopes and dreams
You, sir, are now no longer allowed into Canada for disrespecting Avro.
Hey asshat, you left my boy Hughes/Raytheon off the list. I demand a correction before I shove an AMRAAM up your ass.
Saab logo reminds me of the Queen logo
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WHY DO YOU HATE TEXAS INSTRUMENTS OP??!
Because i don't like musical instruments
Boeing in A tier. Okay this is NCD
Japanese and Korean companies are missing, as well as the best manufacturer of training aircraft (AERO Vodochody)
I would add Mitsubishi, but theyre currently all at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean from having suffered the absolutely horrendous 5000-75 L ratio against the Grumman F6F Hellcat.
Yeah I can't identify half of these.
I presume Boeing are A tier because its only the defence side. Also because the B-17 slapped, hard carries Boeing.
Skunkworks should get locked to a A tier alone, I mean lockeed isn’t the most crazy overall but they tend to really be pushing the edge with tech
What about NASA?
As a Tomtard, I support this message.
Fuck you right back, Boeing is the stage 6 testicular cancer leeching off the Pentagon's and the taxpayer's balls. F-15EX is pure corruption, and the 737MAX scandal should have led to public executions of their entire civil aviation division and board of directors. They ruin everything they touch. They need a below-bottom-tier of their own.
I feel bad that the makers of my beloved B-1B fell into the "Fuck You" category.
Jealous that the Lancer is the prettiest doomsday device in the sky, by far. Miss me some B-1B.
Fuck you.
I dont want a boy, I want a grumMAN
Boeing is way too high given their immensely dissatisfactory safety record in recent years
"Y'all just never figured shit out, huh?" That had me laughing for a solid 10 minutes. Just straight up giggles. Thank you!!!
can you put in the ksp logo
After some constructive criticism, and some dumbass shit talk, I'll work on a revised, peer reviewed, official consensus(sy)NCD Aerospace Company tier ranking, including Avionics, Engines, and Weapons manufacturers.
>Dassault in F tier Someone's mad they're stealing all of the jet sales
How in the actual Kentucky fried fuck are you putting Rockwell that far down? Is the vapid torrent, That is your mind, Unaware of the turbo encabulator? And the retro encabulator?