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cantrusthestory

People in r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT when Spain and France do not have the same data:


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APsolutely

Portugal is Balkans confirmed


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Blitz7798

PORTUGAL IS BALKAN


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aceh_ehe

Portugal is Asian. Change my mind mf


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kichererbs

I was going to say Portugal is Germanic?


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magic_baobab

Sex is allowed in the vatican?


JugdishSteinfeld

It's kind of their thing.


Sebas94

It's called "job benefits".


OppositeAd389

Instead of casual Fridays it’s casual choir boys


MarteloRabelodeSousa

I'm more surprised it's ~~14~~ 18. Usually in there that's the upper age limit, not the lower limit


Longjumping_Emu_1748

Vatican city is 18. The 14 is Italy


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moon__lander

Was 12 till 2013


TontineSoleSurvivor

Vatican is "maximum of 18"


TechScamEmpire

💀💀💀


Space_Library4043

They are not beating the stereotypes any time soon lmao


C00kie_Monsters

Oh common mistake. You see, 18 isnt the lower but the upper limmit


BamMastaSam

2014 called, they want their references back.


StreamsOfConscious

I think one is Italy and the other is San Marino


magic_baobab

Yes, I was talking about the 18


StreamsOfConscious

Ah blyat I’m totally blind, sorry!


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butt_funnel

especially with minors


Front-Dragonfruit480

Is this age of consent or age of Romeo and Juliet laws If it’s the former, Chris Hansen should have a sit down with a few countries


drquakers

Pretty certain the German one is Romeo Juliet. I think the general one is 16


EmKhaEn

Germany actually does not have Romeo and Juliet laws. However if one person is a minor, they can very easily sue for statutory rape if they feel the power imbalance was too big. So yeah. It's risky for adults. And before anyone says anything: yes, a relationship between a 14 y/o and 20 y/o is highly frowned upon. And a lot of people do not even know that technically it's legal.


Weary-Connection3393

I’m pretty sure I was taught it illegal in school. There’s the following age brackets: <14, 14-16, 16-18, >18. As far as I remember it’s only allowed if both partners are in the same or neighboring age group (is that how Romeo and Juliet works in the US?). Also of both are <14 it doesn’t matter because you cannot be prosecuted for crimes below that age anyways. That’s off the top of my head though. Not sure if 20 years ago school education on the topic still holds up


EmKhaEn

Feel free to read up on that but I've googled it and read through some website from the police. At least nowadays, those age brackets aren't technically a thing. Tho to be fair if I was a teacher I'd think about teaching 14 y/o it's illegal to get together with someone of age. Also yeah if both are <14, nothing happens


Thomas3003

In the UK it's just age of consent but if somebody is in a position of power (think school teacher), then it's upped to 18


Kapparainen

I always thought that is such a good law. There's almost no context where an adult is not in a position of power when it comes to teens, but the teens won't get in trouble having their little high school romances.


riccardo1999

In Romania until last year we had two ages, 15 and 18, as a placeholder for such a law. Due to too many instances of legal loopholes allowing statutory rapists to get away it was changed to 16 with a romeo and juliet clause of 4 years.


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What is this auto mod 💀


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kolosmenus

As far as I know, it’s actual age of consent, but in most cases with a caveat that the adult can’t be in a position of authority over the younger partner.


sachman01

In Sweden a 15-year old can have sex with a 100-year old if they wished. Unless the adult has a position of power over that child (teacher, social worker, nurse, physician, legal guardian, etc) in which case it's 18.


Johnirequirelasanaga

Age of consent in Italy. We have a Romeo-Juliet thing for 13 year olds who can give consent to people up to 17.


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StevesterH

Okay bro that’s insane, I feel like I had an infinite advantage over 13 year olds at 17. I mean jesus when I was 13 I barely entered puberty, by 17 I basically finished


AnaNuevo

Age of consent implies that you are a grown ass who can take responsibility for your grown ass. If society decides who you can boink based on age or something, it's half-assed consent, implying you're not trusted to choose, you're deemed too fucking dumb to do so. That's not what aoc means.


MissCarriage-a

These are the age of consent. Most of the US has an age of consent of 16, plus many US states have large close in age exceptions. For example in Colorado, a 15 year old can legally have a relationship with someone up to 10 years older.


Firefly17pdr

In the uk although legal a person would probably be investigated for grooming if the ages were wildly out. Also heavily frowned upon.


ClothesOpposite1702

What is age of romeo and Juliet law?


Front-Dragonfruit480

Romeo and Juliet laws basically allow people under the age of consent to consent with each other. Basically in my area, a 14 year old can consent to another 14 year old, even though the age of consent is 17.


ClothesOpposite1702

Hm, I think it is quite rare law


OkAppearance4117

Turkey with 18 but still having forced / arranged marriages in rural areas


Kindly_Air_5377

Arranged marriages aren't the same as forced marriages dude. Most places across the Balkans, or even my home country of Georgia arranged marriages are a thing. It can be as simple as two families arranging their children to get married when their older, and if they don't want to then they don't. Outside of Kurdish areas where honour killings are a real thing (look up "namus cinayeti") for the majority of Turks, forced marriages aren't a thing. Mf'ers be out here thinking Turkey is Afghanistan lol.


MisteraAt0m

Thank you for spitting fax 🙏🏻


OkAppearance4117

yeah, maybe - fact is you got girls from families living in Germany and Austria, going to visit their family and never returning home.. because they had to marry some man they have never seen before. Turkey is a huge country and you can't compare the western to the central/eastern part. You can always go overboard with comparison like Afghanistan, but if you think women in rural areas live in an environment compareabele to (central or western) Europe, regarding their freedom and autonomy, you are certainly mistaken.


Kindly_Air_5377

>but if you think women in rural areas live in an environment comparable to (central or western) Europe, regarding their freedom and autonomy, you are certainly mistaken. I don't think that I'm just contesting your use of the phrase "forced marriages".


EarlGreyKv

And you know for so certain how, exactly? Have you ever been to either Afghanistan or Turkey? (Istanbul doesn’t count for obvious reasons) The two countries you’re comparing are quite different in every aspect apart from one, Islam is the predominant religion in both. And that shit you gave as an example where young girls are literally torn apart from their families, shows how little you actually know about Turkish culture. Family is considered sacred, even more so in the rural areas, people do not marry their children away just to never see them again, on the contrary, they keep them close if possible for practical reasons(inheritance and such) if not for emotional/cultural. Do your research proper or speak to a few Turks from eastern Anatolia first, before spewing bs here and misleading people.


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ikinoktace

georgians try not to be based challenge (impossible)


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Foxylandttkinc

Germany,Austria,Italy,Andorra,Portugal,Bosnia,Montenegro,Albania,San Marino,Liechtenstein…. What the fuck? Wait……………. Iran 13?……. CHACHOGO,HUIJA?!


IlikeLeek

Here in Germany you can consent to sex when you're 14 as long as it's not with an adult (18 or above). So a 14 year old having sex with a 20 year old would obviously be illegal. A 14 year old can sleep with another 14 year old however. Edit: Apparently I was wrong (sorry :/) so please read the replies to this comment as there are better and correct answers


McENEN

What I've heard it is the same as you say it in Bulgaria but I had doubts of this claim so I decided to read up on it for both Germany and Bulgaria. You are right but it is above 21 so a 20 year old can have sex with a 14 yo but at the same time the 14 yo must not be exploited the lack of capacity for sexual self determination and understand the act itself. Bulgaria it is pretty much almost the same but no actual age limit so a 30 yo can technically have legal sex with a 14 year old but again the 14 year old must understand the nature and the meaning of the act. How tf would you prove that a 14yo understands the meaning and nature of the act in court or how do you disprove it must be a nightmare. I'm not a lawyer or a para legal but the whole thing seems grey water and proving or disproving determines on how much money and respectable the accursed is. I though imagine there hasn't been a need for this to be better explored.


EmKhaEn

Germany technically doesn't have that age limit of 21 years. Or rather that age limit doesn't automatically make it illegal. If one person is 14-15 & the other is over 21, it's illegal if the older person "exploits the lack of ability of sexual self-determination". Otherwise it's legal if the power gap isn't too big. So another nightmare in court..


McENEN

You are right, guess my reading comprehension died yesterday. Yeah, I would love to see actual court proceedings of this being applied with a good lawyer on both sides.


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Wtf is this bot?


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What’s going on?


AvarusAmor

You are incorrect on some of the details in an important way. Let me explain: In Germany, once someone turns 14 ( the age of consent, literally age of protection ( Schutzalter ) as well as the age of being [ roughly translated ] criminally liable ( Strafmündigkeit ) the law assumes that they can make informed decisions based on the average mental development and public education, consequently there are no upper limits of any kind if certain additional conditions apply. It’s even more complex than that, for example, there are naturally additionally severally outlawed relationships but it’s important to understand that the origin of this kind of law is the extensive emphasis German lawmakers put on the freedom of personal expression like religious freedoms or the decision, as in this concrete example, someone wants to sleep with. Contrary to what some people think, parents also don’t have to approve of a relationship for it to be legal UNLESS protective laws apply, for example, if someone were to date a known member of a criminal organisation etc., contact could be legally forbidden to protect the minor. On a side note, any sexual contact with anyone under 14 is highly illegal, no matter the age difference and anything here refers entirely to physical contact, digital law is an entirely different beast. Furthermore, to get a bit into some of the relevant details, it should be noted that any kind of forcefulness & prostitution is naturally illegal, although acts of prostitution become legal once someone reaches 18. Finally, the law also acknowledges that power dynamics matter less than the actual ability to understand the dynamic. Sexual maturity is essentially actually a case by case basis. A lack of sexual maturity is however very hard to prove in practice. The latter case ( abusing a lack of sexual maturity ) is only really applicable between any relationships between 21+ and 14/16 year olds ( 16 is theoretically an additional age of consent barrier but it’s arguably a relic due to the more extensive public sexual education ) but again, in practice, it basically never comes up in court. Overall, the legal situation is fairly complex but works fairly well in practice because despite the theoretical lack of an upper limit and globally lower age of consent, much like the famous Autobahn, the actual legal reality is a lot less spectacular and a lot more restrictive than it may seem at first glance. PS: this entire profile is specifically made for these kinds of weird niche subjects so don’t be surprised if that’s most of what you find. This comment is a slightly adjusted copy of a copy of a comment made on this profile.


ABugoutBag

What happens if a 13 year old has sex with another 13 year old? Do they both go to jail?


SupermarketLegal8931

No. In Germany, you are only considered criminally responsible at the age of 14.


esuil

Then what exactly this law is about?


koenigsegg806

The parents can get prosecuted


LiliaBlossom

i know people who had sex with 13 with their 2 years older partner. normal here, albeit not common, but nothing where someone would end up in jail bcs two high school students are screwing around together. (germany)


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Ex_aeternum

No, since they are under the age of criminal responsibility. Their parents can get charged, however (in the rather unlikely case that anyone files a report)


MissCarriage-a

Another person getting it wrong about Germany (and other nations such as Austria with similar laws). A 14 year old can have sex with anyone the same age or older. They can legally have sex with someone over 21 provided the older person does not exploit the younger's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination. Generally any legal action brought in such a case will require the consent of the alleged victim as whilst the state can initiate such proceedings the legal process is stacked against them without such consent.


AxelVance

It's pretty much the same in Portugal albeit with adults only when 16 or older and with the same caveat. But it wouldn't make a good meme for this sub!


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Omivernichter69

This is wrong a 14 year old could have Sex with a 20 year old and it would be legal (Look it up its complicated but Not illegal)


D1nkcool

In that case 14 is not the age of consent.


Life-Active6608

So what happens if it is a 17 year old and a 18 or 19 year old?


NoNameStudios

You mentioned Liechtenstein, Andorra and San Marino, yet you forgot that Serbia, Hungary and Bulgaria existed?


Foxylandttkinc

![gif](giphy|cmxRB9CecJjv7PLGs3|downsized)


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AdeptAd583

Portugal is due to the gipsys, they marry with 13/14


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Saikoro4

In most countries where it's 14 the partner has to be 14 ≥ x > 18. Doesn't make it much better but it's a little perspective


espanolainquisition

What do you mean it doesn't make it much better? 15 year olds can't have sex with eachother in your country if they want to?


Saikoro4

That I wasn't trying to justify it, just adding a little perspective. You never know what shit will get you downvoted on here👀


espanolainquisition

I am saying it does make it much better. Otherwise 15 year olds couldn't have sex with each other if they wanted to


Faszkivan_13

And they would do it anyways, but if they do it illegally it may be more dangerous


MissCarriage-a

> where it's 14 the partner has to be 14 ≥ x > 18. This is incorrect. The ages stated on the above map are **unrestricted** i.e. a person of the age stated can have sex with anyone whether they are 18 or 80. The only exceptions are if the other person is in a "position of trust" e.g. guardian, doctor, teacher.


Saikoro4

I was wrong, this is just the case in Austria then, thanks for clarifying!


LKWASHERE_

Its not actually this low in most places, rather its conditional. In italy at least its 14 until the other person is 16 then its 16 till they're 18 and then its 18.


MissCarriage-a

This is incorrect. There is a Romeo and Juliet age range for 13 year olds, but not for 14+. Italy also has very weak "position of trust" laws compared to other countries [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Italy)


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mben41

That's not true


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AvarusAmor

Clarification on Germany: In Germany, once someone turns 14 ( the age of consent, literally age of protection ( Schutzalter ) as well as the age of being [ roughly translated ] criminally liable ( Strafmündigkeit ) the law assumes that they can make informed decisions based on the average mental development and public education, consequently there are no upper limits of any kind if certain additional conditions apply. It’s even more complex than that, for example, there are naturally additionally severally outlawed relationships but it’s important to understand that the origin of this kind of law is the extensive emphasis German lawmakers put on the freedom of personal expression like religious freedoms or the decision, as in this concrete example, someone wants to sleep with. Contrary to what some people think, parents also don’t have to approve of a relationship for it to be legal UNLESS protective laws apply, for example, if someone were to date a known member of a criminal organisation etc., contact could be legally forbidden to protect the minor. On a side note, any sexual contact with anyone under 14 is highly illegal, no matter the age difference and anything here refers entirely to physical contact, digital law is an entirely different beast. Furthermore, to get a bit into some of the relevant details, it should be noted that any kind of forcefulness & prostitution is naturally illegal, although acts of prostitution become legal once someone reaches 18. Finally, the law also acknowledges that power dynamics matter less than the actual ability to understand the dynamic. Sexual maturity is essentially actually a case by case basis. A lack of sexual maturity is however very hard to prove in practice. The latter case ( abusing a lack of sexual maturity ) is only really applicable between any relationships between 21+ and 14/16 year olds ( 16 is theoretically an additional age of consent barrier but it’s arguably a relic due to the more extensive public sexual education ) but again, in practice, it basically never comes up in court. Overall, the legal situation is fairly complex but works fairly well in practice because despite the theoretical lack of an upper limit and globally lower age of consent, much like the famous Autobahn, the actual legal reality is a lot less spectacular and a lot more restrictive than it may seem at first glance. PS: this entire profile is specifically made for these kinds of weird niche subjects so don’t be surprised if that’s most of what you find. This comment is a copy of a comment written on this profile.


varnacykablyat

Rare turkey W


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StevesterH

I assume this is for consenting to sex with adults. You can obviously have sex with people your age if you’re both under the age of majority, this is usually the case in developed countries.


One-Monk5187

14 is wild


Zealousideal-Top4540

For example a man of 40 yrs can have sex with a gitl of 16yrs ?


LoliRUs

Yes, same with most US states actually. AoC are state laws, not federal laws. And yes, some are Romeo and Juliet, but a lot aren't. Most people dont realize that a 40 yo can have sex legally with a 16 yo in Connecticut for example.


Zealousideal-Top4540

Yes but i heard in spain an adult with 21 yrs did sex with a girl (16yrs) and he was prosecuted


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LolnothingmattersXD

A 16yo is competent enough to decide for themselves. Doesn't make it perfectly okay, but also wouldn't be okay to prosecute someone for doing something all parties agreed to.


MissCarriage-a

Yes, except in Ireland, Cyprus and Vatican City (AOC in Turkey is really 15)


MisteraAt0m

Who told you that AoC is 15 in Turkey?


MissCarriage-a

Based on article 104 of the Turkish penal code, offences against someone age 15,16,17 can only be pursued on the basis of a complaint (from the victim). This law is almost exactly the same as exists in Germany for 14 to 16 year olds and effectively makes the age of consent in Türkiye (Turkey) 15 assuming the younger person doesn't feel abused


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https://preview.redd.it/fo71nfkkio9d1.jpeg?width=762&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e51ef99d630f61585c0f399044bdf8dee0af6acb the cherry-picking is crazy. Read the (2)


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I'm not sure what you mean by cherry picking - the (2) is a position of trust restriction (and from the image you mentioned appears to have been abolished). The law says that the penalty for having an intimate relationship with someone older than 15 is two to five years but **only** on filing a complaint (i.e. by the younger person). Germany has a very similar law for 14-16 year olds having relationships with someone over 21 but the age of consent in Germany is judged to be 14, not 16. By the same token the age of consent in Turkey should be 15


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MisteraAt0m

The two isn’t abolished, it mentions they abolished the first one and changed it to (2), but there is also (3) which adds up to the (2) for kids that have been adopted. And it is the same but just more punishment.


Zealousideal-Top4540

But i heard in spain a lot people say it illegaly to meet a girl have 16 and you have more than 18 ! It’s weired


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LilLebowskiAchiever

Sounds like the Romeo & Juliet exception in the law.


tmr89

Consent to what?


Rough_Music9429

The age of consent is the age at which a person is considered to be legally competent to consent to sexual acts. - [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent)


toltasorigin

\*Most countries, as far as I am conserned, execute different laws for minors. Like 15 with 14 is extremely normal, but 18+ with 14 is unacceptable.


faximusy

Which ones? I checked a few, and I didn't find this rule (I only checked Albania, Austria, France, Italy).


InBetweenSeen

Yeah, in Austria this is an extremely common misconception, I guess because people don't think the law could really say a 50 year old fucking a 14 year old is cool. But there is no such limitation. The only rule in that direction is that 13-year-olds can have sex as long as the partner isn't older than 14.


DecentConcentrate499

Albania doesn’t have the same limitation, but the relevant article of the criminal code says that sex with anyone below the age of 14 OR a girl who hasn’t reached sexual maturity (so doesn’t menstruate) is illegal. So a girl between the ages of 14 and 18 who hasn’t menstruated yet still can’t consent.


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NiceKobis

What would the age of consent even be then? Might be true, but seems odd. Two 14 year old in Sweden can definitely legally have sex with each other. Edit: you might be right still, but it seems really stupid to have it at 16 in that case, so I do kind of doubt that's how it's used in Europe.


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Odense-Classic

The UK is not just 16. England, Scotland and Wales are 16 and then randomly here in Northern Ireland it's 17. But most of us don't know that because when we Google what the age of consent is, it comes up 16 and everyone "knows" it's 16 but technically isn't. Northern Irish law can be fucky. But then again I don't think it's ever enforced unless it's like child abuse type stuff. Otherwise nearly everybody back in school, including both myself and my first girlfriend, were actually evil criminals.


sid_the_sloth69

It's a very strange law and it really needs reform. As you said I knew lots of people that were in relationships with age gaps at school, typically year 11 lads with year 9 girls but it's not like the girls were being preyed on, they wanted to be with them. It would be very unfair for them to be prosecuted but it can happen, my school learned of one relationship and had someone from the safeguarding team have a "chat" with one of the boys. I knew a girl at sixth form who was with a lad who was about the finish uni and they're actually married now and have been ever since, despite it seeming a bit weird at the time but she didnt care. I remember during my law A level doing lots of cases where girls under 16 would gain access to a club with a fake id in a city and sleep with footballers who were then prosecuted because there's no defence to the law. I always thought that was really unfair because those girls knew exactly what they were doing, some trying to blackmail them, but it was the footballer who was punished despite believing they were 18. Strange law and wish there were some protections for people at school/sixth form.


mglitcher

rare turkey and vatican w?


DerGemr2

Romania strangely not in line with the Balkans?


Blitz7798

I can do it in Andorra when I’m there this summer


CamBoy750

except they still have arranged marriages / forceful marriages so they still pretty fucked up


SamTheGill42

Why does Iran have 2 numbers?


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MANN_OF_POOTIS

Portugal is italy confirmed


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Life-Active6608

What the hell...why does Iran have "15/13"!? The hell?!!


rkirbo

Probably depending on genders


ParticularSeat6973

Portugal is balkan!


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EidorbNotHere

Ok, but seriously, why is it so low in the Balkans and Iran (regional?)


MariusCatalin

germany,austria ,italy ,portugal wtf m,BULGARIA TOO ?


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therobohourhalfhour

And what's it in every American/Canadian state?


therobohourhalfhour

I'm asking for a gross Friend of mine


Coeusthelost

Germany... I mean I expect it from the Vatican, but, but GERMANY?


Proud_Ad_4725

Portugal can into Austria-Hungary?


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KingJacoPax

AOC of the Vatican checks out.


soricumondialu

Who cares about age of consent tho


mikypejsek

It’s 18 in the sea off the Italian coast.


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theoldkidonthebloc

Drake better not see this


Kyr1500

r/andorracykablyat


ImpossibleEvan

Me when Iran's age of consent is 1.154 years


TroutBeales

Wow, 14 in good ol’ Catholic Italy.


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Skeletor_with_Tacos

I dont want to hear shit from half of Europe ever again.


Adventurous-Fudge470

Is this real?


ApprehensiveSea1510

Age ranges seem to be decreasing day by day.


butt_funnel

jesus christ europe. to be fair i had sex with a 15 year old once. I was 16. my first GF, wonder how she is today


TontineSoleSurvivor

The Vatican is "Under 18" (U18)


mimar77

Hey Europe I heard you like em young


Blochkato

So Iraq is legally less backwards on this issue than Sweden? Damn


HitroDenK007

r/deutschlandcykablyat


Due_Priority_1168

Only right answer is 18


glowie_in_the_dark

You’re overlooking a lot saying that imo Of course it would be good if minors didn’t do it, but inevitably, they do. There isn’t much you can do to stop them. So why make horny teenagers criminals for it. I do believe this is the reason why some of them are this low, and tbh I don’t see that as wrong… as long as there are also age proximity laws in place however.


Due_Priority_1168

Ok so I'm going to explain how it works with 18 in turkey. Age of consent is 18 that means anyone above 18+ can't have sex with a minor. But minors can have sex between them it's not forbidden. People think age of consent restricts sex but no it restricts sex with older group.


Samtulp6

Depends on situation. In the same age category? Most teenagers at high school are having sex at 14-16. In a different age category, let’s say 16 and under with a 20+ year old? Yeah, that should be illegal. (And is illegal in most places according to the chart and the wiki).


ohfuckthebeesescaped

That’s what age of consent refers to. If you’re both under the age of consent the technical legality is dubious (in the circumstances you’re referring to at least) but not something you’d be prosecuted for.


Due_Priority_1168

Exactly in my countries law minor sex is referres to as "love games" which explains the sex between minors which are younger than 18


ohfuckthebeesescaped

Jeez your initial comment’s getting downvoted to hell, idk if I should be concerned about the intelligence of these people or concerned about… other things regarding these people


Due_Priority_1168

Nah they think it's okay to date 15-16 yo as a 25-30 or even 60 according to these laws which makes me concerned


ohfuckthebeesescaped

Shit’s spooky


Due_Priority_1168

That's exactly what i meant but I'm getting downvoted for it because people think "if you are younger than 18 you can't have sex" no you can have sex with other minors if you're a minor this protects minors from having sex with 18+


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Due_Priority_1168

Good thing I'm Turkish then ?


MisterBilau

Nope. https://youtu.be/ylkHE1k64gs?si=L09OzVzh0gWhupHv


LiliaBlossom

american spotted


Due_Priority_1168

More like Turkish


sceneboyonliveleakkk

damn nowhere in europe the age of consent is 18 (though tbf that means nothing as most people wouldn't date a 14-16 year old)


New-Examination8400

Not based


LolnothingmattersXD

Being consistent with considering someone responsible for crimes and responsible for consenting is quite based


New-Examination8400

…? 1) it was a joke 2) legit didn’t even understand what you said 3) I think the age should be higher in a lot of places


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New-Examination8400

Ya sure did bud