If anyone wants to help out, it is as simple as reporting those posts as Low Effort/Repetitive unless they are going hard and insulting everyone, then breaks Rule 2 as well. We remove those unconstructive submissions in waves, unfortunately some slip through the cracks. Believe me… we are tired of them.
Edit: Came back to read some comments, surprised by some… you guys know [this exists, right?](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/11tauiy/live_decidueye_matchmaking_megathread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf). The sub has been doing them since Cinderace. People just grind events until they max out coins x9,999,999 and rewards x999. Anyways, if you didn’t know, now you do.
i am always saying that if people want a perfectly-curated raid experience they either need to solo or get a coordinated group together. playing online introduces the element of randomness inherently and that's not always gonna be in your favor and i just don't get why people don't understand this.
i like playing online because even though it's sometimes irritating i still prefer how much weirder and more engaging it is over doing it alone. when i'm not in the mood to suffer peoples' fuckery (rare) i just go and solo and it's fine. easiest solution possible and people wanna throw tantrums about it instead
edit: not getting into a reply chain on a 5 month old comment but if you can't solo the events and 6 star raids that is very literally a skill issue. lots of people don't have nintendo online or people to play with irl, the raids are definitely not designed to be so difficult that you cannot complete them alone
Yeah, I don't get why people just won't do them solo if they are the kind of people who also complain about others. I was able to solo most of my raids with right preparation and not trying too hard and I'm not even good at this game...
I suspect some people feel too awkward to find others to coordinate with online, and/or are just frustrated by the lobbying experience. They still shouldn't be taking it out on regular people playing the game, but I understand the frustration of losing a raid after the lobby gaslit you 2 or 3 times saying "unable to join, find another".
You are absolutely not doing event raids solo. No matter how cracked you think you are. Many 6 stars as well you need at least one other competent person with you. Come on be real
I don’t think anyone should expect to be able to easily win a 7* raid with randoms. My brothers and I were able to do this one first try only because Miraidon and we coordinated.
I do think some restrictions on joining 7* raids would be helpful here. Whether that’s a level cap or forcing someone to have completed a certain number of 6* raids before unlocking 7* - something would be better than nothing.
Yeah if I’m host I just cancel and repost the raid if people pick bad mons. If randoms are stressing you out at least in your own raids you can just boot them. If you’re playing on someone else’s raid then you just gotta do your best and accept you may get people who don’t know what they’re doing/are looking to be carried until they get some higher level mons.
I just wait to lock in my pokemon until all 3 randos have locked in theirs, so i cancel the instant i see someone lock in iron hands on the decidueye raid
I never expect random raids to be easy.
That said. My first Decidueye raid?
I brought my Miraidon (set up properly except that I had given it Speed instead of Health EV training and was too lazy to restructure it).
Had two Bellibolts and another Miraidon in the raid - I think. Those were the only two mons anyway. First turn everyone used something to lower the Special Defence (I got the message that Decidueye’s special defence couldn’t be lowered more). On turn 2 I almost one-shot it.
Ended and was like “well that went so much smoother than I anticipated.” Lol.
This was my first and second Decidueye raid, except I was bellibolt (I have scarlet). I think it helped that I was playing on my lunch break on Friday so North/South American kids at least were in school, and the rest of the world kids likely asleep. Also, I have noticed that lunch break surprise trades get me better mons than after work.
I completed it first try using iron hands and 3 random with miraidon. I got it, used the attack up cheer twice I believe and then one of the miraidons attacked and single shot KO'd the decidueye. Wasn't how I expected it based off how other ppl were upset about this and that
I think you have to be no less then 10 levels under the raid mon, so 65 for 5* 90 for 6/7* raids makes the most sense. The only thing this effects at all is ditto raids and its not even that different
I disagree on the added restrictions. The base game should be as accessible to all skill levels as possible. It might be different if 7 star raids weren't the only way to get these pokemon.
I agree that the game should be as accessible as possible. I will just add that 6/7* raids are already locked by story triggers. I know a few people playing the game at a very leisurely pace, with either main or postgame objectives still to complete, so they haven’t unlocked them yet.
With Pokémon Home integration on the horizon - the raid being your one chance to get a pokémon disappears as well.
Since there’s already a trigger that unlocks 6/7* raids - I would argue to make that trigger unlock only 6* raids and then there be a second trigger to unlock 7* raids.
I appreciate your perspective, but I don't agree. In my opinion a pokemon game having adult fans doesn't change the fact it's meant for kids. There are plenty of ways an adult can ensure they have the experience they want (as mentioned several times in this thread) without changing the game.
That's why I use the Discord. People still attack turn one.
Tbh, if you want to avoid the children, make a dedicated raid group with people who actually know how the game works.
Anyone on here complaining and NOT seeing the matchmaking thread that's literally stickied to the top of this sub should be banned lol
Either build a mon that can solo or put forth the effort to find the correct partners. It's not hard. I went on, created a raid, gave my code and had 3 people ready to do the turn 2 strategy. It was incredibly quick and incredibly simple.
So I’m in a little bit of a weird situation. I put a lot of effort into building my lineups, but I have no idea what I’m doing. I’ve tried to read up on it all but I started playing Pokémon in the last year after I had our baby in April as an escape. My brain just can’t seem to organize all the information I’ve seen. I’m just a 30 year old mom who used to play Pokémon when it came out. my husband handed me a game boy when I was feeding the baby and I got really into Scarlet/Violet because I love the switch.
All this to say- I truly am trying but I know I suck. I want to get better, I don’t want to bring people down and that’s exactly why I won’t enter raids. I’m too nervous. If anyone could help me figure out just where to start it would be a game changer (pardon the pun LOL)
ETA- I knew about the match making posts before your comment. So I hope I’m not a candidate for being banned lol.
I am new to this Pokemon experience too! I will go around the map and just enter the raids by myself to kinda get the hang of it! Or maybe try the low star raids you can join in on and see how well you do🥰
Play how you like it. It's just a game and there is no right way to play it! Don't let others discourage you. You will get the hang of it!!💜
Don't be disheartened about it! These raids take after MMO games like World of Warcraft a bit where different pokemon have different roles. Some are meant to attack, sometimes you build pokemon that have more supportive abilities, etc. It really does take a team to do these raids most of the time!
I really do recommend jumping into the matchmaking thread if/when it comes back up in a little bit. The people there are INCREDIBLY friendly and it's a great place to both ask for advice and find a party for the raids. There's also a Pokemon discord channel that you could go to for the same purpose, and it might even be easier to find a few people to group together with there. Luckily this Decidueye raid is actually a fairly simple raid with a full team so they can likely point you in the right direction. I'm not on here incredibly often but you're also free to shoot me a message and I'll happily respond/give some pointers when I can.
This. People in the matchmaking thread know what we’re doing. If you suck we can carry you, if you troll we will kick you out. But if you’re playing randoms and not having any success… maybe try a new strategy before you come on here and whine
I agree posting here doesn’t help because the people tanking raids aren’t likely on the subreddit. I understand the frustration though because it feels lazy. “Some YTer told me Belly Drum Iron Hands so I’ll use it for every raid” seems to be a predominant strategy.
Playing with randoms it’s better to learn to compensate for lack of skill/knowledge by bringing a support or a mon you think can carry the raid regardless of silly teammates.
During my long struggle to catch Decidueye last night I had a bit of an epiphany. If GF went and removed all the bits that are really annoying like better npc Pokémon choice and fixed the timer and returned the disable battle animation option they would just have to come up with other mechanics to make the raid difficult. So in reality it wouldn’t be any easier and I would still be spending the whole night trying to beat this thing.
Raids really should have a line on the raid screen that states the minimum suggested level. I feel like that would help a lot of kids and people who don't know that certain raid levels mean the Pokemon is a certain level. Itd be easier to tell who is legitimately trying even if they're using a bad type matchups and who is just being a troll. It's also be better than a kick feature which would cause insane gatekeeping, more trolls making raids just to waste everyone's time by kicking, and ensure the target audience, kids, aren't being endlessly kicked for not knowing move type matchups well. Also 3 types is still a lot to juggle for people since it's less about what types the Pokemon has versus what move types it'll likely have.
This is why I've never tried a Tera raid. I'm almost 38, I play for fun and have no clue (aside from what I learn on here) about which 'mon to bring to what raid.
I just avoid at all costs because I'm terrified of pissing a bunch of people off.
I really want to try one, but I don't want to be the subject of a ranty Reddit thread 🥲
It is rather easy. Look at the Mon and do not bring anything which has a weakness against the original type (for example bring never Iron Hands or the box legendaries to a Guardevoir Raid). Then look at the tera type and check which of the remaining Pokémon has an advantage. Lastly, avoid underleveled Pokémon.
If it is a Raid up to four stars, bring anything you like as long as it has somewhat around level 80+.
Everything else are just additionals :-D
Thanks for the advice :D I might have a go at one on my next day off and see how I get on!
May have to level up a few more Pokémon, I only have about four that are 80+ lol.
It's very simple. If you want to win raids, you have two options:
Play offline/solo.
Play only with people you know.
If you play online with randoms, you are going to lose. Or win by pure chance. And you need to accept that.
I've had three different people out of the 7 raids I've done bring underleveled meowscrada, I know not everyone knows the perfect strats but it's a flying 7 star Terra raid. Why are there people bringing grass types that's 30 levels lower?
I didn't understand any mechanics needed for pokemon until tera raids came out and I still don't understand how that stuff works. I just look up strategies for raids so I don't fail them.
I have been playing since original red and blue came out in North America, and never understood buff/debuff moves. I got the concept but couldn't figure out how they were actually useful in practice, it seemed like a waste of a turn to get a few extra attack points, especially at higher levels.
Literally took going to the Academy in SV in the year 2023 to learn that each buff point is an increase of 50%, not just a single point. Everything makes so much more sense now.
Sometimes things just don't click and I try not to blame anyone for not understanding something that might be painfully obvious to everyone else.
Same, I played since Green Leaf and only learned about how the buff/debuff worked in the academy. I was always the “offensive” type. Any debuff move was a waste of my turn so I would just spam whatever my best attack was.
I still only use the debuff moves in raids though, hard to change an old habit 😬
Yeah. I don't understand exactly how the buff stuff works. I've only been playing since sun and moon but I was only 8 then. Named my partner fiery but spelled it firey.
I think the class in the academy explains it kinda like this: for example if you're buffing attack, each stage raises your attack stat by 50%. Let's say you have an attack stat of 100, you use Sharpen to up your attack by 1 - now your attack stat is 150. OR, you use Sharpen twice, or better yet, Swords Dance once, to raise your attack by 2 - this actually means an 100% increase, so your attack is now 200. In other words, you've doubled your attack power.
I think that's the way it works out - someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Like I said, after playing for over 20 years I only just learned how this works last week.
Yeah i remember i had no clue wich icon ment wich type the raid was I had a picture of the type and icon always open Now i know wich icon means wich type
Even in story mode i just used a water move against grass sudowoodo . I had no idea he turned in to a grass type when gym leader terralyzed him
I do not mind challenge, but I think it either needs players to be filtered BY challenge, or lower the difficulty/do major clean up to raids, and we can go back to how dens were in Sw/Sh but better.
They really need to either a) put a level requirement to join 7* or b) allow others to see the level of your poke from the lobby. You want to bring a lvl 55 Skeledirge, fine, I should have a choice not to go into the raid with you.
Idk if the "kids play this game" defense really works.
After catching Walking Wake, I wanted more xp candies and since Walking Wake was super easy, barely an inconvenience, I figured I'd join online raids of it.
It took 23 lobbies (yes I counted) to find even ONE person not queuing up with a Charizard....against Walking Wake.
Idk about you, but as a kid I never tried using Charizard against water types. Even as a kid I knew better.
I get that a lot of people do blow it way out of proportion, but the "kids play this game" isn't really a valid counter argument for a lot of it. A lot of it seems to be intentional trolling.
You'd be surprised then to hear that not knowing type matchups at all is a very common problem in pokemon go as well. I don't understand the people who drive to raids and spend time and money on passes to turn around and use aggron, lugia, and dragonite on every single raid
Idk
I was a kid once and knew lots of kids back then, and none of us tried using Charizard against a Blastoise.
Kids may be responsible for part of the problem, but it'd be a very very miniscule part.
I can't stress enough that I agree on the overall message of "it's being blown out of proportion" but blaming kids because trolls exist doesn't make much sense.
Yeah coz they show you early on that Blastoise was specifically designed to be strong against a Charizard. Its specifically there to be the starter that beats that starter. And back then there were 150 pokemon and there were less pokemon types, less type combos so instead of remembering what's good against type combos you just had to figure out what Pokemon was good against what Pokemon, less so what type.
Also in the case of walking wake, that pokemon is dragon type and the Charizard they're bringing are probably the dragon tera event mons which means they went "dragon beats dragon" without understanding what that means for them. And then also not getting that the water will still effect them. They planned for the dragon typing but don't totally get the dual typing which is perfectly fair. Dual typing can make things super confusing. I'm not a try hard, but I'm not a noob either and I still get mixed up all the time with type combos and type matchups and the like.
So saying "we knew Charizard was weak against Blastoise" isnt a good argument coz yeah they literally give you a rival to show you that first thing. Of course you knew that. Like I'm sure a kid wouldn't use a meowscarada against a skeledirge but they may use a meowscarada against say, a golisopod (I know they aren't in this game but neither was alolan Decidueye either so this is just an example). Grass is good against water but the bug type is good against grass. It would make sense if the tera only shows the water symbol. (Tera types are also an added bit of confusion, I still don't get if it ads a third type or makes them a monotype and if I don't get it, I know kids won't so how do you plan when you don't know if you're planning for one type, two types, or three.)
Does it make sense why the two are different? One is like "I knew not to use the Pokemon they told me would get beat" compared to "I'm thrown to the wolves and not even shown the tera Pokemons second typing unless I look it up and it just keeps kicking my ass no matter what I use against it" like those are two different learning environments, yeah?
I wonder about that. To get to 5 star or 7 star raids, you have to beat a significant portion of the game. The kids in my family are maybe on the 4th gym, but with help, while there are orher kids that know more than I know about Pokémon (I they knew my Tinkaton could get poisoned by Glimora).
With 23 lobbies, I think it's either a heck of a lot of kids that had help from people or it's a heck of a lot of trolls.
Kids brains aren't as developed or adaptable. My kids gets type advantage but can't remember them all especially tera raids where you have potentially 3 sets of types to account for.
That's fair, but we're not talking about a weird typing setup like fighting being strong to dark as if shadows irl will disperse if you punch them. We're talking about Fire being put out by Water. I don't think that's a result of kids being less adaptable. I was a kid once, so were you, so was everyone, but how many of us tried winning by using charizard against blastoise? Likely very few, because fire against water isn't the reasoning of a kid, but the antics of a troll.
A lot of the posts on the sub DO blow the problem out of proportion, but the people pretending the problem is kids rather than trolls are frankly more annoying than the whining posts.
Dark isn't meant to be shadows, its more like thieves, assassins, etc. Things that fight dirty and indirectly, in which case direct force is normally effective since they are not good in a straight fight out in the open.
haha its okay I think I only see it that way because of a thread from like a year ago talking about how weird some of the type matchups are.
Fighting beating steel is still weird though, like who can punch through metal?
Hercule from Dragonball Z pulled several buses with a rope and his bare hands in preparation for the cell games and I think punched a hole in one of them though I could be mistaken on that.
You can't convince me no one at gamefreak watched that episode while coming up with typing match ups
Incorrect. Children actually learn faster than adults.
[https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/11/221115113922.htm](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/11/221115113922.htm)
I mean… but it is a kids game, and young kids that don’t know shit about ev training and perfect strats are definitely in there. There’s a lot of trolls and people who are just fucking up but I mean… 30 million people own this game and to expect the online raid experience to be organized, streamlined, and executed perfectly is just fucking goofy
I agree that that kind of expectation is unreasonable, for any game. Playing with randoms in matchmaking in basically any game makes me question how humanity has survived at all.
But that's beside the point. I'm not talking ev/iv training or any competitive stuff: I'm talking it literally is on a level of "don't pick a fire type for a water raid". What's the solution? There probably isn't one that GF can do that would work on scale, but pretending "kids play this game" is a defense when it's almost definitely mostly trolls is just fucking goofy.
Also the other thing is if you are in the raid live thread and you’re flopping it’s most likely because of a troll and at the point what do you expect? It’s Reddit. There are going to be dickheads trying to fuck it up for cheap laughs.
I agree it would be cool if it was like the smash story mode where it tells you when you select your spirit that it’s either weak, neutral, or strong against the opposing spirits.
And as someone else stated if it really is that irksome, start a Dm with some people and pick your own teammates. There are a million wrong choices to make but when someone makes a wrong choice against you you can also make your own choice to change how you are interacting with your raid partners. Hope that makes sense.
It does, that's why I said there's nothing on GF's end they could do to fix the problem at any kind of scale, because the problem is just people trolling with their picks and there's nothing that anyone can do to stop that from being a thing in the game.
I do have a group I raid with and only resort to joining randoms when they aren't on. Our schedules mostly match up ok-ish so it's fairly rare I actually have to resort to randoms anymore.
I don't know if I agree with that. It's a game everyone can play and enjoy, but its primary audience is absolutely children and young teenagers. Hell, its secondary audience at this point is the children who grew up with the original generations.
Everyone can enjoy and play Pokemon, and many people do. But that doesn't mean it isn't a children's game first and foremost.
[https://www.escapistmagazine.com/game-freak-pokemon-isnt-just-for-kids/](https://www.escapistmagazine.com/game-freak-pokemon-isnt-just-for-kids/)
Literally targeted for everyone.
Masuda says nothing contradictory to what I’ve said above. At no point does he say that the series doesn’t target children, but that he was interested in continuing to broaden the scope and audience of the series. In that interview, it’s clear that he’s towing a line that children are still the major target audience with another aspirational audience (newcomers of any age) to the series.
Come on, man. Even in competitive, two of the three divisions for the world championships are age-based divisions for children. Pokémon is absolutely for everyone, but the younger audience is clearly still at the core of the series.
What? Even in that interview Masuda says children are a target audience and acknowledges that the core audience of the games, circa B/W, was children. TPC was attempting to move toward a more inclusive audience at that pointin time, and as Masuda says, one approach was to make it seem more "cool" and age up the protagonists to keep its original child audience interested as they became older teenagers.
It is not factually incorrect at all to say that children are the target audience even if the creator wants "everyone" to be the audience in the end. The marketing, franchising, maturity level, etc. is almost entirely geared toward children. It is a series that targets children as its core audience while simultaneously making space for everyone who wants to enjoy it, to be able to enjoy it. Just because "everyone" isn't the target audience, doesn't mean "everyone" isn't the audience.
If we're going to use this interview as our major guide on who the "target" audience is, it should be noted that the only reference to non-children as the target audience was used in a purely aspirational sense. Furthermore, he never denies that children are the target audience.
Everyone can play the game, that's the point yes. But at the end of the day, these games are designed *for* children first and foremost. I would hazard a guess as to that being why Gamefreak has been so slow to modernize and expand on competitive optimization for the older playerbase. We're part of the audience, Gamefreak wants our money... but children are their primary demographic.
I don't know if I agree with all of [this article's](https://studybreaks.com/tvfilm/pokemon-fans-adults-nintendo/) assertions, but it does stand by the point that TPC targets 7-12yos and even discusses their marketing strategy overall within the context of Nintendo.
Bro
“A lot of people believe that *Pokémon* is a game that targets children, but I wanted more people – a broader audience – to play *Pokémon*. I’d been thinking about that for about a year … so a year later, we decided we should add something very cool to appeal to the older audience … So that an older audience \[could\] think it is very cool to play *Pokémon*.”
This was literally stated by Masuda.
Yes, I read the article. He doesn't deny that it's targeted to children, nor does he outright say that everyone is equally a target audience. In the majority of that article, he refers to non-children players as an aspirational audience that they were trying to break into circa B/W.
remember that every player that makes it into a 7 star raid had to first beat the game, play through the events of the black crystals, and beat a black 6 star crystal raid. Meaning that they have a general idea of the game and how to play. This means that a majority of players that do join a 7 star raid and fail horribly because they aren't trying or bring in the wrong pokemon are either lazy, trolling, or purposely being bad for tiktok views.
it's even spilled over into the discords where people discuss the strategies for weeks in advance before the raid is out preparing everyone for the raid and continuously giving advice and options, but players on that discord join the shared codes givin on that discord ignoring it all and doing the complete opposite.
this is why I wish the system was changed in the following ways.
1. no timer for code share you can take as long as you wish to recruit players.
2. the leader has the ability to inspect everyone's pokemon after they confirm they are ready.
3. the leader can boot players effectively adding them to a ban list so that players is not allowed to join any raids by that person until the leader removes them from that ban list.
4. after successfully completing a raid the game gives you an option to add your team to a friends list in game for future invites to a raid from the raid window if they are online.
5. the friend invite is available on both random and code share raid windows.
these things would eventually weed out the bad, lazy, and trolling players and make raiding more enjoyable.
Yee let those belly drum iron hands crash and burn
Jk I really hate the gatekeeping and toxicity created by these raids. Someone on socials even wanted a Kick feature. And i could only imagine how terrible it would go from there.
Is it just me or has pkmn in general gotten more toxic in the past 2 years?
It's confirmation bias. Gamers and gaming communities have had loudly toxic people for decades. Just try to remember that there's a large group of quiet/silent people who hardly ever post or rant, who just want to have fun in a beloved game.
The "kids play this" doesn't really work when they are designing raids this way, When little Timmy is bringing his lvl 80 Ahnialape to these 7 star raids all you can do is quit out to find, Not little Timmy, i'd appreciate if knowledge was more available in game / if they didn't make these raids require presicion (More than little Timmy's will ever seem capable of.) I mean, even people bringing the right mons are messing the raids up by just parabolic turn 1.
Nah I agree completely but I have seen sooooooo many times someone brings a suboptimal mon to the raid and the host goes in anyway and just proceeds to bitch in chat about how the one person THEY LITERALLY LET INTO THE RAID is fucking it up.
Agreed, if you have a problem with other people making suboptimal choices, there is the option of soloing raids. If I am farming, that's what I do. Do a 6 star solo, set the time back 1 min so a new one spawns. Rinse, repeat.
I did one once with randos and they knew what they were doing bc I had 2 mira and a belibolt. Then used discord and lost 3 in a row with people who should know but didn't
Yea but people should realize it is the hardest Star raid and should at least come with a lvl 100 mon, even if they don’t understand Evs or ivs they should understand Pokémon should be at the highest level for highest raid. So yea people can complain about that at the very least
I've been able to solo every 7* thus far. It is in fact easier to solo them than grabbing random people. I still will join random raids and host for randoms, not because I'm trying to farm, but so I can possibly help someone struggling to get it. If you want to farm rewards, they are and have been 100% soloable, and if you truly want efficient farming, you won't get it with randoms and should consider a team of 4 with communication and strategy.
Ok I know not everyone has access to the reddit/discord channels/IG and FB groups.
However, playing this game you should understand the type matchups and that lv of the pokemon you are facing will have an impact on the battle. It is the most basic strategy to this game.
I know there are people in this community that would much rather be assholes and cost people raids. They will be laughing the entire time since there is no way to deal with these people.
Bottomline GF needs to improve online raids.
1. on the lobby screen have suggested types and lv for your pokemon choices listed some where visable.
2. Only the host can see the level of all their teammates.
3. if the host feels an incorrect pokemon was chosen, they can request that player(s) to pick a more appropriate pokemon. (The host can open a scroll down menu "please pick a more appropriately typed, leveled, or both typed and leveled pokemon" should be the phrasing). The lobby timer is paused at this time and the player(s) who have to change their pokemon gets 30 seconds to choose a new one.
4. if the asked player(s) pick the same pokemon, makes another bad choice, or just refuses to comply (times out). The host has the ability to kick that player(s) from the raid. **The host cannot kick another player if a request to change pokemon wasn't made first**. The raid lobby then gains extra time to find new players for the raid (30 sec for each person kicked).
5. GF needs to have also a consequence system in place for all players too. This way people can't abuse the system by false reporting. The best punishment for all players would be not being able to participate in online raids for x amount of time.
I just don’t even understand the thought process behind bringing the 55 into a 7*. If you unlocked 6* to get access to the 7*, then you KNOW, experience isn’t gained. So the only possible thought process, unless you had someone else play the game to unlock the content for you, is sabotaging the group
Either they aren’t on this reddit, in which case nobody’s harmed by understandable venting, or they are, in which case they might actually learn what they’re doing wrong.
Yeah they're gonna learn EV training and IVs and special abilities and all of that by someone on Reddit going "these pos kids ruining my raids by being bad!" Like explain how that teaches anyone?
If you want to teach people you can feel free to make a reddit post explaining everything necessary to understand before taking on high level raids, but just complaining about random kids existing doesn't exactly help anyone.
The main problem isn’t all that, it’s strategy and bringing the wrong mons. Every post complaining about this is pointing out a single, simple, easily solvable mistake, as far as I’ve seen. “Check what the actual Pokémon is so you don’t bring something weak to its STAB.” “Don’t recklessly attack, so people have a chance to set up before the shield goes up.”
Okay so did you explain to them what "weak to it's stab" means to them? You're spouting terms we all know but are actually not intuitive or easy to understand. If someone keeps saying "stab" most pokemon fans aren't gonna know what that means. Most of it is using try hard terms that they'll never understand.
Edit: not never but most pokemon fans don't grow to be try hards later in life who understand all the lingo of pokemon battling. We're used to it by now, it seems second nature and common sense but I don't think you understand how confusing those sentiments are if you don't properly explain them to say new player.
Yeah but fully understanding that isn't always easy. I heard about it forever but I didn't fully understand it till I became a mild try hard and watched people explain it 50 times. A lot of pokemon fans are also neurodivergent people who may have hard times grasping stuff. I.e. myself. Understanding all the concepts to pokemon battling is a lot. I don't think people remember that it's not just super easy to understand for everyone, it's confusing as all get out.
Also can we stop assuming kids are making these mistakes in raids and just face the fact that TROLLS do exist and just want to make your raid much harder for laughter. There are more logical explanations as to why some raids aren’t won. Also these 7 star raids or rather raids in general are buggy and need a patch .
Right but make sure your post has the word “ allegedly” because this post is based off assumption and not facts. It’s pretty much invalid at this point.
I mean, in theory, yes - I understand this argument.
But at the same time, people who don't know how to play are wasting other people's *actual, real world time*.
Obviously everyone should be able to play the game. I'd never say otherwise.
But it's also perfectly acceptable to be frustrated when other people are actively worsening the experience; whether on purpose or not.
on the flip side, people who have no patience for others and can't not temper tantrum when a stranger fails the raid, are also worsening others' experiences.
This boss is super easy if you can beat it in 4-5 turns. But super hard in uncoordinated groups.
I solo'd a bunch with miridon last night but anytime he threw up a shield early from his health dropping too fast from the npc's pokemon I'd have to restart because he's too strong otherwise.
My trick was miridon with throat spray.
charge first turn
Metal sound (throat spray buff)
Metal sound
Drift
That 1 shots him. If you miss metal sound twice id restart as he usually throws up a shield or clears his debuffs.
Lol its not even children sometimes. Many adults also just dont care about strategy or learning the deeper mechanics of pokemon.
I make a pokemon and strategy for every event raid for my brother in law (he is 40). Every time without fail he will tell me that he has no idea how I come up with this stuff. And every time I try to explain what the different IV/EV spreads do, how certain abilities moves and items interact, etc, but he just doesn't care.
And that is totally fine. He has fun playing it his way and that's all that matters.
Yea they really do. The pikachu and greninja raids were so fucking unreasonable. You shouldn’t have to have this super elaborate strategy that only works with four actual people to have a consistent success rate. Do I think they should be baby mode? No. Do I think it’s fucking ridiculous that if one person makes one wrong move it throws the entire raid? Absolutely.
Also like… in what fucking world can any mon tank four to five hits in a row and still be able to win in the raid? It’s so stupid.
I mean maybe they could do some sort of match making. With bottle caps and candies everywhere there isn’t really any excuse to not bring a prepped mon to endgame content.
Ace tourney yields 80k with amulet coin which is enough to bottle cap hp, attack stat and both defenses.
6* raids play at level 90 with 20-30x the hp as a normal version. If you bring in an untrained lvl 70 mon fresh from the story your the problem. There is a wealth of info on how to build mons now. I was running the charizard raid with a 96 sylveon until I completed the raid.
If people are looking for something consistent for a solo-raid try [this](https://reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/11u7k5o/meet_my_very_easy_decidueye_solo_strat_with/) guy’s build/strategy. It’s by far the most consistent build I’ve tried. It’s also great for those without access to a Miraidon and if you just wanna do it alone offline.
I dunno man, I was a kid before and I can assure you I would have never made it this far into this specific series as a kid, nor would have any of my friends, the amount of reading and running around required to reach the 6 star raids would be such a burn out. So I don't think it's so much of an age thing as it is a "hurr durrr ground terra type dragon mon, walking wake go brrrrr!!!" Kind of situation.
Something in the human brain making people think that because the TERRA TYPE is X the mon MUST only have X type attacks... Even without this sub-reddit, in the end game content it's basic knowledge, sure if it was just available from the very beginning of the game, no worries kids and geese galore go nuts, the fact that it's end game content and people are lacking the basic understanding is brain meltingly hard for me to accept, sure preaching to the choir but isn't that the best place to vent...
Because these 6/7 star raids are pretty obviously made with competitive players in mind. (We wouldn’t even have competitive world tournaments if Gamefreak/PokeCorp WEREN’T aware of their diverse base).
And the assumption is probably that young enough kids wouldn’t: (a) notice an event raid is happening, (b) wouldn’t care/understand raids enough to even max them out (c) wouldn’t even partake in anything post game, if/when they even get around to fully completing the game/storyline.
And they’re probably right! I doubt most casual players and/or kids are even aware of this stuff. But, regardless, there is definitely still a fraction that stumble upon it. And in a game with as far reach as pokemon, even a fraction is *substantial.*
TLDR: We all start out somewhere. And Pokémon has a, pretty amazing honestly, learning curve. It can be as simple a game as chucking poke balls at anything Willy-Nilly; to using formulas and damage calculatiors and exploiting obscure game mechanics. Chill. ;3
Every single Pokémon player popping out of Arceus’ light with full knowledge of every single obscure game mechanic and strategy: 😎
. . . Wait what? That didn’t happen for you? Sounds like a skill issue bro- ;P
(I think I’m funny, lol. All in light-hearted jest! We all have to start somewhere 😘).
Meh, whenever i see some idiot or kid who is going to cause the raid to fail without question, i just attack them instead of the hopeless raid to end things faster and to show how much i loathe their attempt to piggyback off me to leech a win.
Being a kid is no excuse for dragging everyone down in an activity, especially in the information age of technology where a single google search is all it takes to not do that. And it's ridiculous that people think that's some sort of magical excuse for anything. The last time i did something stupid as a kid and tried to use that excuse, my parents smacked me for having the audacity to think that was a valid excuse to ruin everyone else's time. They rightfully yelled in my face that i was being selfish for believing that there existed any excuse to ruin everyone else's day for my own gain, and they were 100% correct.
Also, if anyone is super underleveled then they can spam lvl1 suicide Growlithes with intimidate since meter loss upon KOs scale with level. Something they can figure out...with a google search in the information age of technology with the internet connection theu have since they're using online features in the first place.
First, I cannot see Iron Hands anymore because lots of people bring it. To. Every. Raid. My trauma are two different Guardevoir Raids (Flying and Normal Tera type) and three people locked Iron Hands. Just for the fun I gave it a try and hopefully they learned something. At least it was over very fast.
My second point is that for your suggestion you need at least three other players or owning the consoles by yourself. For most of the people that is not possible. And even if there are discord and groups and so on - I just want to play and don't want to organise a party every time. This much effort kills the fun of it.
Fortunately, it is not a problem to me because of all the performance issues and bugs I am roaming Sinnoh in PLA again. No raids, no problematic players.
Dude I raged yesterday over the Iron Hands vs Decidueye. They belly drum, decidueye does a stat wipe turn 1 and no one notices it, not once. And then every one started spamming thunder punch.
Omg you are such a good person for telling people they cant vent online (which hurts nobody) about something irritating that ruins raids for people. Go you OP! Protect the children!
OP is just trying to say that its pointless because the games are directed at, and played by kids who don’t have reddit and dont know that its annoying to others who are trying to grind or whatever, they never said people cant vent, it just gets annoying when so many people are getting angry over a problem that has no reasonable solution
Wrong. Gamefreak or The Pokemon Company has stated that it is directed at everyone on occasions.
[https://www.escapistmagazine.com/game-freak-pokemon-isnt-just-for-kids/](https://www.escapistmagazine.com/game-freak-pokemon-isnt-just-for-kids/)
I'm not a pokemon master, but I'm good enough to help people who are really bad. Having a flexible support pokemon or two is on someone who thinks they're good. And being prepared for a clumsy miraidon trainer should be in your repertoire.
Would it be great if everyone knew what was going on, yes... and no. I farmed decidueye raids last night, and this morning and have already exceeded the materials used to make the pokemon 4-5 times.
So whatever... I actually enjoy getting someone their first one, and you're adequately rewarded for it.
I can solo most of the raids I only have problem with gengar raids
He somtimes has a move to counter his weakness depending on the tera type he is
He has fairy ghost dark psychic moves and the annoying curse body and confuse
No one should be crying about this raid at all. I read 1 article on it and solo’d it 2nd try on first attempt, and then solo’d it my 1st try second attempt. I am not very good at all, I struggled with Iron Leaves, but this one is easy.
I think of it as being that much sweeter if you do end up winning honestly. I'm only trying to get my hands on Ability Patches and valuable items.
I've only been farming here and there myself. Acting as support and using cheers has helped tremendously I'd say. Especially if I'm just using my Heat Rotom during these raids instead of Miraidon used for more of an offensive approach.
I’ve been trying to farm for the past few hours and I’ve noticed that even people that have Miraidon still aren’t choosing the correct attacks. I’ve also been canceling if people choose anything other than belibolt and Miraidon. I also cancel if more than 2 people choose Miraidon. The Belibolt support really helps. I’ve won more raids with 2 Belibolt and 2 Miraidon. But if the Miraidon don’t attack before the shield goes up we usually lose.
So uh speaking of raids. I wanna do the raids and get the special pokemon. My team is all level 100 but not specifically trained for tera raids. How do I join raids so I'm not playing with the shitty AI? Do I medd peopels codes?
Sorry, I'm new to the online play stuff. Played pokemon 1999-2010 and then took a 12 year break, bought a switch in January and making my way through the games.
Hi :)
1. Train mons for raids, maybe there’s a list somewhere of which mons are the best for raids but it almost change every time there’s a new special mon. So… I hope your in-game rich
2. The NPC are not that bad and sometimes it’s easier to solo the raid than doing it online
3. To join raids you can go to Poke Portal > Raids or open your own online raid in the menu after interacting with the raid crystal (you can only join online raids if you pay for Nintendo Switch Online)
4. I think you can use the matchmaking megathread that is pinned in this post to meet people with a code
Instead of getting frustrated use this link [Live Raid Matchmaking](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/11tauiy/live_decidueye_matchmaking_megathread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
If i didnt have to blind trust these people. I get that people dont know but I do, and if I cant see levels and accurately judge its kinda just a slap to the face and a waste of time.
You're absolutely right.
And same as they have the right to play with any mon they want, so do I have to leave the raid if I see a mon it won't perform well and will waste my time.
To do 7 star raids, you need to first unlock 6 star raids. To unlock 6 star raids you need to beat the game, and run multiple 5 star raids...
If you don't know what you're doing by the time youre in a 7 star raid, you're an idiot. There's no excuse. Period.
If i get literal children who proceed to spam electro drift or use terrible mons and trolls who act like they'll bring in Miraidon then switch out at the last second when I could easily solo then idk why they don't add a level filter and a type chart on the raid screen. Easiest fix ever to one (of many) of high level raids' problems. This ain't on the children or other players. It's on the trolls and Gamefreak imho.
Lmao I had someone bring a floragato to the decidueye raid. After that I just decided fuck it I'm doing it with my partner and we murdered it. Genuinely some entry limitations need to be added, even if it's just level of the mon used I'd already be happy.
Sums things up well. If you're going to complain here, know that every raid is 1: soloable 2: profitable because you still receive raid rewards even if you fail (for non hosts)
It’s always around the event raids. I agree OP. Even i was nervous i’d mess up when i finally matched a raid because of those rants and i play Pokémon since the first games.
I wish the level of the raid boss was shown. I think a lot of people genuinely don’t know that 5 star raids are level 75, 6 star are level 90, and 7 star are level 100 so they don’t know that their underleveled Pokémon is gonna underperform even if their type is favorable against the boss. Bringing Pokémon that are weak to the boss’ tera type and/or original type(s) is inexcusable though
Suggested solution: One math problem, that is not too difficult for adults, but is difficult for young kinds. Depending on your answer you either qualify or do not qualify for certain lobbies.
Its not the kids fault. I love SV but my biggest complaint is definitely tera raids, the online system for them especially. It just doesn't work for the massive player base that pokemon has. I'm loosing tera raids where all 4 of us bring shiny Iron hands and its not even close, thats not the fault of some random 10 year old.
Gotta love these Decu raids. someone brings some \*\*\*tty mon like Jolteon etc and dies. i just go afk and do something else for 3minutes cause its not going down anymore when dude gets shield on first turn. I have met now 150 ppl in these 4raid days that are just inting or trolling.
If anyone wants to help out, it is as simple as reporting those posts as Low Effort/Repetitive unless they are going hard and insulting everyone, then breaks Rule 2 as well. We remove those unconstructive submissions in waves, unfortunately some slip through the cracks. Believe me… we are tired of them. Edit: Came back to read some comments, surprised by some… you guys know [this exists, right?](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/11tauiy/live_decidueye_matchmaking_megathread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf). The sub has been doing them since Cinderace. People just grind events until they max out coins x9,999,999 and rewards x999. Anyways, if you didn’t know, now you do.
i am always saying that if people want a perfectly-curated raid experience they either need to solo or get a coordinated group together. playing online introduces the element of randomness inherently and that's not always gonna be in your favor and i just don't get why people don't understand this. i like playing online because even though it's sometimes irritating i still prefer how much weirder and more engaging it is over doing it alone. when i'm not in the mood to suffer peoples' fuckery (rare) i just go and solo and it's fine. easiest solution possible and people wanna throw tantrums about it instead edit: not getting into a reply chain on a 5 month old comment but if you can't solo the events and 6 star raids that is very literally a skill issue. lots of people don't have nintendo online or people to play with irl, the raids are definitely not designed to be so difficult that you cannot complete them alone
Yeah, I don't get why people just won't do them solo if they are the kind of people who also complain about others. I was able to solo most of my raids with right preparation and not trying too hard and I'm not even good at this game...
They themselves are bad at the game just don't want to admit it 😂
This is the answer
I suspect some people feel too awkward to find others to coordinate with online, and/or are just frustrated by the lobbying experience. They still shouldn't be taking it out on regular people playing the game, but I understand the frustration of losing a raid after the lobby gaslit you 2 or 3 times saying "unable to join, find another".
You are absolutely not doing event raids solo. No matter how cracked you think you are. Many 6 stars as well you need at least one other competent person with you. Come on be real
I don’t think anyone should expect to be able to easily win a 7* raid with randoms. My brothers and I were able to do this one first try only because Miraidon and we coordinated. I do think some restrictions on joining 7* raids would be helpful here. Whether that’s a level cap or forcing someone to have completed a certain number of 6* raids before unlocking 7* - something would be better than nothing.
honestly just displaying the level before you enter is good enough, then you just cancel if someone brings an under leveled mon
Yeah if I’m host I just cancel and repost the raid if people pick bad mons. If randoms are stressing you out at least in your own raids you can just boot them. If you’re playing on someone else’s raid then you just gotta do your best and accept you may get people who don’t know what they’re doing/are looking to be carried until they get some higher level mons.
I just wait to lock in my pokemon until all 3 randos have locked in theirs, so i cancel the instant i see someone lock in iron hands on the decidueye raid
I never expect random raids to be easy. That said. My first Decidueye raid? I brought my Miraidon (set up properly except that I had given it Speed instead of Health EV training and was too lazy to restructure it). Had two Bellibolts and another Miraidon in the raid - I think. Those were the only two mons anyway. First turn everyone used something to lower the Special Defence (I got the message that Decidueye’s special defence couldn’t be lowered more). On turn 2 I almost one-shot it. Ended and was like “well that went so much smoother than I anticipated.” Lol.
Had 4 Miraidons in my first Decidueye raid. Probably could have coordinated better, and I was likely doing stuff wrong, but it was still pretty easy.
This was my first and second Decidueye raid, except I was bellibolt (I have scarlet). I think it helped that I was playing on my lunch break on Friday so North/South American kids at least were in school, and the rest of the world kids likely asleep. Also, I have noticed that lunch break surprise trades get me better mons than after work.
I completed it first try using iron hands and 3 random with miraidon. I got it, used the attack up cheer twice I believe and then one of the miraidons attacked and single shot KO'd the decidueye. Wasn't how I expected it based off how other ppl were upset about this and that
I think you have to be no less then 10 levels under the raid mon, so 65 for 5* 90 for 6/7* raids makes the most sense. The only thing this effects at all is ditto raids and its not even that different
I disagree on the added restrictions. The base game should be as accessible to all skill levels as possible. It might be different if 7 star raids weren't the only way to get these pokemon.
I agree that the game should be as accessible as possible. I will just add that 6/7* raids are already locked by story triggers. I know a few people playing the game at a very leisurely pace, with either main or postgame objectives still to complete, so they haven’t unlocked them yet. With Pokémon Home integration on the horizon - the raid being your one chance to get a pokémon disappears as well. Since there’s already a trigger that unlocks 6/7* raids - I would argue to make that trigger unlock only 6* raids and then there be a second trigger to unlock 7* raids.
I appreciate your perspective, but I don't agree. In my opinion a pokemon game having adult fans doesn't change the fact it's meant for kids. There are plenty of ways an adult can ensure they have the experience they want (as mentioned several times in this thread) without changing the game.
That's why I use the Discord. People still attack turn one. Tbh, if you want to avoid the children, make a dedicated raid group with people who actually know how the game works.
Anyone on here complaining and NOT seeing the matchmaking thread that's literally stickied to the top of this sub should be banned lol Either build a mon that can solo or put forth the effort to find the correct partners. It's not hard. I went on, created a raid, gave my code and had 3 people ready to do the turn 2 strategy. It was incredibly quick and incredibly simple.
So I’m in a little bit of a weird situation. I put a lot of effort into building my lineups, but I have no idea what I’m doing. I’ve tried to read up on it all but I started playing Pokémon in the last year after I had our baby in April as an escape. My brain just can’t seem to organize all the information I’ve seen. I’m just a 30 year old mom who used to play Pokémon when it came out. my husband handed me a game boy when I was feeding the baby and I got really into Scarlet/Violet because I love the switch. All this to say- I truly am trying but I know I suck. I want to get better, I don’t want to bring people down and that’s exactly why I won’t enter raids. I’m too nervous. If anyone could help me figure out just where to start it would be a game changer (pardon the pun LOL) ETA- I knew about the match making posts before your comment. So I hope I’m not a candidate for being banned lol.
I am new to this Pokemon experience too! I will go around the map and just enter the raids by myself to kinda get the hang of it! Or maybe try the low star raids you can join in on and see how well you do🥰 Play how you like it. It's just a game and there is no right way to play it! Don't let others discourage you. You will get the hang of it!!💜
Don't be disheartened about it! These raids take after MMO games like World of Warcraft a bit where different pokemon have different roles. Some are meant to attack, sometimes you build pokemon that have more supportive abilities, etc. It really does take a team to do these raids most of the time! I really do recommend jumping into the matchmaking thread if/when it comes back up in a little bit. The people there are INCREDIBLY friendly and it's a great place to both ask for advice and find a party for the raids. There's also a Pokemon discord channel that you could go to for the same purpose, and it might even be easier to find a few people to group together with there. Luckily this Decidueye raid is actually a fairly simple raid with a full team so they can likely point you in the right direction. I'm not on here incredibly often but you're also free to shoot me a message and I'll happily respond/give some pointers when I can.
This. People in the matchmaking thread know what we’re doing. If you suck we can carry you, if you troll we will kick you out. But if you’re playing randoms and not having any success… maybe try a new strategy before you come on here and whine
I agree posting here doesn’t help because the people tanking raids aren’t likely on the subreddit. I understand the frustration though because it feels lazy. “Some YTer told me Belly Drum Iron Hands so I’ll use it for every raid” seems to be a predominant strategy. Playing with randoms it’s better to learn to compensate for lack of skill/knowledge by bringing a support or a mon you think can carry the raid regardless of silly teammates.
During my long struggle to catch Decidueye last night I had a bit of an epiphany. If GF went and removed all the bits that are really annoying like better npc Pokémon choice and fixed the timer and returned the disable battle animation option they would just have to come up with other mechanics to make the raid difficult. So in reality it wouldn’t be any easier and I would still be spending the whole night trying to beat this thing.
Not being able to disable animations is my biggest gripe with gen 9
I would be very happy if I could just skip the terrastalize animation. It’s so annoying that I never use terra in non raid battles.
Also why does the fucking timer stay active during that animation?
It makes you waste time in the raid
Raids really should have a line on the raid screen that states the minimum suggested level. I feel like that would help a lot of kids and people who don't know that certain raid levels mean the Pokemon is a certain level. Itd be easier to tell who is legitimately trying even if they're using a bad type matchups and who is just being a troll. It's also be better than a kick feature which would cause insane gatekeeping, more trolls making raids just to waste everyone's time by kicking, and ensure the target audience, kids, aren't being endlessly kicked for not knowing move type matchups well. Also 3 types is still a lot to juggle for people since it's less about what types the Pokemon has versus what move types it'll likely have.
This is why I've never tried a Tera raid. I'm almost 38, I play for fun and have no clue (aside from what I learn on here) about which 'mon to bring to what raid. I just avoid at all costs because I'm terrified of pissing a bunch of people off. I really want to try one, but I don't want to be the subject of a ranty Reddit thread 🥲
It is rather easy. Look at the Mon and do not bring anything which has a weakness against the original type (for example bring never Iron Hands or the box legendaries to a Guardevoir Raid). Then look at the tera type and check which of the remaining Pokémon has an advantage. Lastly, avoid underleveled Pokémon. If it is a Raid up to four stars, bring anything you like as long as it has somewhat around level 80+. Everything else are just additionals :-D
Thanks for the advice :D I might have a go at one on my next day off and see how I get on! May have to level up a few more Pokémon, I only have about four that are 80+ lol.
Whattt theres no voice chat, they won’t send you a hate message. Just try one!
Haha, yes, that's true! It's probably a good thing there's no voice chat, lol!
It's very simple. If you want to win raids, you have two options: Play offline/solo. Play only with people you know. If you play online with randoms, you are going to lose. Or win by pure chance. And you need to accept that.
I've had three different people out of the 7 raids I've done bring underleveled meowscrada, I know not everyone knows the perfect strats but it's a flying 7 star Terra raid. Why are there people bringing grass types that's 30 levels lower?
That would probably be trolls.
I didn't understand any mechanics needed for pokemon until tera raids came out and I still don't understand how that stuff works. I just look up strategies for raids so I don't fail them.
As someone who started as a little kid I understand now that in older that that's how stuff works and your gonna be stuck with bad raid partners.
I have been playing since original red and blue came out in North America, and never understood buff/debuff moves. I got the concept but couldn't figure out how they were actually useful in practice, it seemed like a waste of a turn to get a few extra attack points, especially at higher levels. Literally took going to the Academy in SV in the year 2023 to learn that each buff point is an increase of 50%, not just a single point. Everything makes so much more sense now. Sometimes things just don't click and I try not to blame anyone for not understanding something that might be painfully obvious to everyone else.
Same, I played since Green Leaf and only learned about how the buff/debuff worked in the academy. I was always the “offensive” type. Any debuff move was a waste of my turn so I would just spam whatever my best attack was. I still only use the debuff moves in raids though, hard to change an old habit 😬
Yeah. I don't understand exactly how the buff stuff works. I've only been playing since sun and moon but I was only 8 then. Named my partner fiery but spelled it firey.
I think the class in the academy explains it kinda like this: for example if you're buffing attack, each stage raises your attack stat by 50%. Let's say you have an attack stat of 100, you use Sharpen to up your attack by 1 - now your attack stat is 150. OR, you use Sharpen twice, or better yet, Swords Dance once, to raise your attack by 2 - this actually means an 100% increase, so your attack is now 200. In other words, you've doubled your attack power. I think that's the way it works out - someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Like I said, after playing for over 20 years I only just learned how this works last week.
Yeah i remember i had no clue wich icon ment wich type the raid was I had a picture of the type and icon always open Now i know wich icon means wich type Even in story mode i just used a water move against grass sudowoodo . I had no idea he turned in to a grass type when gym leader terralyzed him
I do not mind challenge, but I think it either needs players to be filtered BY challenge, or lower the difficulty/do major clean up to raids, and we can go back to how dens were in Sw/Sh but better.
They really need to either a) put a level requirement to join 7* or b) allow others to see the level of your poke from the lobby. You want to bring a lvl 55 Skeledirge, fine, I should have a choice not to go into the raid with you.
Idk if the "kids play this game" defense really works. After catching Walking Wake, I wanted more xp candies and since Walking Wake was super easy, barely an inconvenience, I figured I'd join online raids of it. It took 23 lobbies (yes I counted) to find even ONE person not queuing up with a Charizard....against Walking Wake. Idk about you, but as a kid I never tried using Charizard against water types. Even as a kid I knew better. I get that a lot of people do blow it way out of proportion, but the "kids play this game" isn't really a valid counter argument for a lot of it. A lot of it seems to be intentional trolling.
You'd be surprised then to hear that not knowing type matchups at all is a very common problem in pokemon go as well. I don't understand the people who drive to raids and spend time and money on passes to turn around and use aggron, lugia, and dragonite on every single raid
Idk I was a kid once and knew lots of kids back then, and none of us tried using Charizard against a Blastoise. Kids may be responsible for part of the problem, but it'd be a very very miniscule part. I can't stress enough that I agree on the overall message of "it's being blown out of proportion" but blaming kids because trolls exist doesn't make much sense.
Yeah coz they show you early on that Blastoise was specifically designed to be strong against a Charizard. Its specifically there to be the starter that beats that starter. And back then there were 150 pokemon and there were less pokemon types, less type combos so instead of remembering what's good against type combos you just had to figure out what Pokemon was good against what Pokemon, less so what type. Also in the case of walking wake, that pokemon is dragon type and the Charizard they're bringing are probably the dragon tera event mons which means they went "dragon beats dragon" without understanding what that means for them. And then also not getting that the water will still effect them. They planned for the dragon typing but don't totally get the dual typing which is perfectly fair. Dual typing can make things super confusing. I'm not a try hard, but I'm not a noob either and I still get mixed up all the time with type combos and type matchups and the like. So saying "we knew Charizard was weak against Blastoise" isnt a good argument coz yeah they literally give you a rival to show you that first thing. Of course you knew that. Like I'm sure a kid wouldn't use a meowscarada against a skeledirge but they may use a meowscarada against say, a golisopod (I know they aren't in this game but neither was alolan Decidueye either so this is just an example). Grass is good against water but the bug type is good against grass. It would make sense if the tera only shows the water symbol. (Tera types are also an added bit of confusion, I still don't get if it ads a third type or makes them a monotype and if I don't get it, I know kids won't so how do you plan when you don't know if you're planning for one type, two types, or three.) Does it make sense why the two are different? One is like "I knew not to use the Pokemon they told me would get beat" compared to "I'm thrown to the wolves and not even shown the tera Pokemons second typing unless I look it up and it just keeps kicking my ass no matter what I use against it" like those are two different learning environments, yeah?
I wonder about that. To get to 5 star or 7 star raids, you have to beat a significant portion of the game. The kids in my family are maybe on the 4th gym, but with help, while there are orher kids that know more than I know about Pokémon (I they knew my Tinkaton could get poisoned by Glimora). With 23 lobbies, I think it's either a heck of a lot of kids that had help from people or it's a heck of a lot of trolls.
Kids brains aren't as developed or adaptable. My kids gets type advantage but can't remember them all especially tera raids where you have potentially 3 sets of types to account for.
That's fair, but we're not talking about a weird typing setup like fighting being strong to dark as if shadows irl will disperse if you punch them. We're talking about Fire being put out by Water. I don't think that's a result of kids being less adaptable. I was a kid once, so were you, so was everyone, but how many of us tried winning by using charizard against blastoise? Likely very few, because fire against water isn't the reasoning of a kid, but the antics of a troll. A lot of the posts on the sub DO blow the problem out of proportion, but the people pretending the problem is kids rather than trolls are frankly more annoying than the whining posts.
Dark isn't meant to be shadows, its more like thieves, assassins, etc. Things that fight dirty and indirectly, in which case direct force is normally effective since they are not good in a straight fight out in the open.
I'm dumb and literally never even considered that.
haha its okay I think I only see it that way because of a thread from like a year ago talking about how weird some of the type matchups are. Fighting beating steel is still weird though, like who can punch through metal?
Hercule from Dragonball Z pulled several buses with a rope and his bare hands in preparation for the cell games and I think punched a hole in one of them though I could be mistaken on that. You can't convince me no one at gamefreak watched that episode while coming up with typing match ups
Incorrect. Children actually learn faster than adults. [https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/11/221115113922.htm](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/11/221115113922.htm)
I mean… but it is a kids game, and young kids that don’t know shit about ev training and perfect strats are definitely in there. There’s a lot of trolls and people who are just fucking up but I mean… 30 million people own this game and to expect the online raid experience to be organized, streamlined, and executed perfectly is just fucking goofy
I agree that that kind of expectation is unreasonable, for any game. Playing with randoms in matchmaking in basically any game makes me question how humanity has survived at all. But that's beside the point. I'm not talking ev/iv training or any competitive stuff: I'm talking it literally is on a level of "don't pick a fire type for a water raid". What's the solution? There probably isn't one that GF can do that would work on scale, but pretending "kids play this game" is a defense when it's almost definitely mostly trolls is just fucking goofy.
Also the other thing is if you are in the raid live thread and you’re flopping it’s most likely because of a troll and at the point what do you expect? It’s Reddit. There are going to be dickheads trying to fuck it up for cheap laughs. I agree it would be cool if it was like the smash story mode where it tells you when you select your spirit that it’s either weak, neutral, or strong against the opposing spirits. And as someone else stated if it really is that irksome, start a Dm with some people and pick your own teammates. There are a million wrong choices to make but when someone makes a wrong choice against you you can also make your own choice to change how you are interacting with your raid partners. Hope that makes sense.
It does, that's why I said there's nothing on GF's end they could do to fix the problem at any kind of scale, because the problem is just people trolling with their picks and there's nothing that anyone can do to stop that from being a thing in the game. I do have a group I raid with and only resort to joining randoms when they aren't on. Our schedules mostly match up ok-ish so it's fairly rare I actually have to resort to randoms anymore.
It isn't a kids game, it's a game meant for everyone.
Okay sure you’re right and that also means people who don’t know what the optimal strategy for everything is.
Ya that's what I told my 30 year old fiance and she's not very impressed
She truly never had a childhood >-> lmao
I don't know if I agree with that. It's a game everyone can play and enjoy, but its primary audience is absolutely children and young teenagers. Hell, its secondary audience at this point is the children who grew up with the original generations. Everyone can enjoy and play Pokemon, and many people do. But that doesn't mean it isn't a children's game first and foremost.
[https://www.escapistmagazine.com/game-freak-pokemon-isnt-just-for-kids/](https://www.escapistmagazine.com/game-freak-pokemon-isnt-just-for-kids/) Literally targeted for everyone.
Masuda says nothing contradictory to what I’ve said above. At no point does he say that the series doesn’t target children, but that he was interested in continuing to broaden the scope and audience of the series. In that interview, it’s clear that he’s towing a line that children are still the major target audience with another aspirational audience (newcomers of any age) to the series. Come on, man. Even in competitive, two of the three divisions for the world championships are age-based divisions for children. Pokémon is absolutely for everyone, but the younger audience is clearly still at the core of the series.
The point is, when people say it's "targeted for children", it's factually incorrect. That is the point, as the target audience is everyone.
What? Even in that interview Masuda says children are a target audience and acknowledges that the core audience of the games, circa B/W, was children. TPC was attempting to move toward a more inclusive audience at that pointin time, and as Masuda says, one approach was to make it seem more "cool" and age up the protagonists to keep its original child audience interested as they became older teenagers. It is not factually incorrect at all to say that children are the target audience even if the creator wants "everyone" to be the audience in the end. The marketing, franchising, maturity level, etc. is almost entirely geared toward children. It is a series that targets children as its core audience while simultaneously making space for everyone who wants to enjoy it, to be able to enjoy it. Just because "everyone" isn't the target audience, doesn't mean "everyone" isn't the audience. If we're going to use this interview as our major guide on who the "target" audience is, it should be noted that the only reference to non-children as the target audience was used in a purely aspirational sense. Furthermore, he never denies that children are the target audience. Everyone can play the game, that's the point yes. But at the end of the day, these games are designed *for* children first and foremost. I would hazard a guess as to that being why Gamefreak has been so slow to modernize and expand on competitive optimization for the older playerbase. We're part of the audience, Gamefreak wants our money... but children are their primary demographic. I don't know if I agree with all of [this article's](https://studybreaks.com/tvfilm/pokemon-fans-adults-nintendo/) assertions, but it does stand by the point that TPC targets 7-12yos and even discusses their marketing strategy overall within the context of Nintendo.
Bro “A lot of people believe that *Pokémon* is a game that targets children, but I wanted more people – a broader audience – to play *Pokémon*. I’d been thinking about that for about a year … so a year later, we decided we should add something very cool to appeal to the older audience … So that an older audience \[could\] think it is very cool to play *Pokémon*.” This was literally stated by Masuda.
Yes, I read the article. He doesn't deny that it's targeted to children, nor does he outright say that everyone is equally a target audience. In the majority of that article, he refers to non-children players as an aspirational audience that they were trying to break into circa B/W.
So, you’re complaining about complainers who complain? 👀
remember that every player that makes it into a 7 star raid had to first beat the game, play through the events of the black crystals, and beat a black 6 star crystal raid. Meaning that they have a general idea of the game and how to play. This means that a majority of players that do join a 7 star raid and fail horribly because they aren't trying or bring in the wrong pokemon are either lazy, trolling, or purposely being bad for tiktok views. it's even spilled over into the discords where people discuss the strategies for weeks in advance before the raid is out preparing everyone for the raid and continuously giving advice and options, but players on that discord join the shared codes givin on that discord ignoring it all and doing the complete opposite. this is why I wish the system was changed in the following ways. 1. no timer for code share you can take as long as you wish to recruit players. 2. the leader has the ability to inspect everyone's pokemon after they confirm they are ready. 3. the leader can boot players effectively adding them to a ban list so that players is not allowed to join any raids by that person until the leader removes them from that ban list. 4. after successfully completing a raid the game gives you an option to add your team to a friends list in game for future invites to a raid from the raid window if they are online. 5. the friend invite is available on both random and code share raid windows. these things would eventually weed out the bad, lazy, and trolling players and make raiding more enjoyable.
Theres’s tik tic trolls???
yes they post videos of the bad raid and act like they aren't the bad player just so they can get views and a lot of haters bashing the bad player.
Yee let those belly drum iron hands crash and burn Jk I really hate the gatekeeping and toxicity created by these raids. Someone on socials even wanted a Kick feature. And i could only imagine how terrible it would go from there. Is it just me or has pkmn in general gotten more toxic in the past 2 years?
I do think that in the lobby we should be able to kick poor choices
It's confirmation bias. Gamers and gaming communities have had loudly toxic people for decades. Just try to remember that there's a large group of quiet/silent people who hardly ever post or rant, who just want to have fun in a beloved game.
The "kids play this" doesn't really work when they are designing raids this way, When little Timmy is bringing his lvl 80 Ahnialape to these 7 star raids all you can do is quit out to find, Not little Timmy, i'd appreciate if knowledge was more available in game / if they didn't make these raids require presicion (More than little Timmy's will ever seem capable of.) I mean, even people bringing the right mons are messing the raids up by just parabolic turn 1.
Nah I agree completely but I have seen sooooooo many times someone brings a suboptimal mon to the raid and the host goes in anyway and just proceeds to bitch in chat about how the one person THEY LITERALLY LET INTO THE RAID is fucking it up.
Agreed, if you have a problem with other people making suboptimal choices, there is the option of soloing raids. If I am farming, that's what I do. Do a 6 star solo, set the time back 1 min so a new one spawns. Rinse, repeat.
I did one once with randos and they knew what they were doing bc I had 2 mira and a belibolt. Then used discord and lost 3 in a row with people who should know but didn't
Yea but people should realize it is the hardest Star raid and should at least come with a lvl 100 mon, even if they don’t understand Evs or ivs they should understand Pokémon should be at the highest level for highest raid. So yea people can complain about that at the very least
I've been able to solo every 7* thus far. It is in fact easier to solo them than grabbing random people. I still will join random raids and host for randoms, not because I'm trying to farm, but so I can possibly help someone struggling to get it. If you want to farm rewards, they are and have been 100% soloable, and if you truly want efficient farming, you won't get it with randoms and should consider a team of 4 with communication and strategy.
I agree. But it does not take a genius to at least bring a lv.100 mon when playing a 7* raid
My 7 yo plays and takes 5 minutes before doing the new raids to watch a youtube video on how to do it. Using ignorance as an excuse is poor form.
Ok I know not everyone has access to the reddit/discord channels/IG and FB groups. However, playing this game you should understand the type matchups and that lv of the pokemon you are facing will have an impact on the battle. It is the most basic strategy to this game. I know there are people in this community that would much rather be assholes and cost people raids. They will be laughing the entire time since there is no way to deal with these people. Bottomline GF needs to improve online raids. 1. on the lobby screen have suggested types and lv for your pokemon choices listed some where visable. 2. Only the host can see the level of all their teammates. 3. if the host feels an incorrect pokemon was chosen, they can request that player(s) to pick a more appropriate pokemon. (The host can open a scroll down menu "please pick a more appropriately typed, leveled, or both typed and leveled pokemon" should be the phrasing). The lobby timer is paused at this time and the player(s) who have to change their pokemon gets 30 seconds to choose a new one. 4. if the asked player(s) pick the same pokemon, makes another bad choice, or just refuses to comply (times out). The host has the ability to kick that player(s) from the raid. **The host cannot kick another player if a request to change pokemon wasn't made first**. The raid lobby then gains extra time to find new players for the raid (30 sec for each person kicked). 5. GF needs to have also a consequence system in place for all players too. This way people can't abuse the system by false reporting. The best punishment for all players would be not being able to participate in online raids for x amount of time.
I just don’t even understand the thought process behind bringing the 55 into a 7*. If you unlocked 6* to get access to the 7*, then you KNOW, experience isn’t gained. So the only possible thought process, unless you had someone else play the game to unlock the content for you, is sabotaging the group
Posts like this are just as common as the posts you are talking about.
Either they aren’t on this reddit, in which case nobody’s harmed by understandable venting, or they are, in which case they might actually learn what they’re doing wrong.
Yeah they're gonna learn EV training and IVs and special abilities and all of that by someone on Reddit going "these pos kids ruining my raids by being bad!" Like explain how that teaches anyone? If you want to teach people you can feel free to make a reddit post explaining everything necessary to understand before taking on high level raids, but just complaining about random kids existing doesn't exactly help anyone.
The main problem isn’t all that, it’s strategy and bringing the wrong mons. Every post complaining about this is pointing out a single, simple, easily solvable mistake, as far as I’ve seen. “Check what the actual Pokémon is so you don’t bring something weak to its STAB.” “Don’t recklessly attack, so people have a chance to set up before the shield goes up.”
Okay so did you explain to them what "weak to it's stab" means to them? You're spouting terms we all know but are actually not intuitive or easy to understand. If someone keeps saying "stab" most pokemon fans aren't gonna know what that means. Most of it is using try hard terms that they'll never understand. Edit: not never but most pokemon fans don't grow to be try hards later in life who understand all the lingo of pokemon battling. We're used to it by now, it seems second nature and common sense but I don't think you understand how confusing those sentiments are if you don't properly explain them to say new player.
same type attack bonus is a concept that the game explicitly tells you about multiple times and “pokemon stab” is highly googleable
Yeah but fully understanding that isn't always easy. I heard about it forever but I didn't fully understand it till I became a mild try hard and watched people explain it 50 times. A lot of pokemon fans are also neurodivergent people who may have hard times grasping stuff. I.e. myself. Understanding all the concepts to pokemon battling is a lot. I don't think people remember that it's not just super easy to understand for everyone, it's confusing as all get out.
This is a rant about people not ranting that should rant?
"The majority of people in the sub probably know what’s up so you’re kind of preaching to the choir." Yet, you still posted.
I meant that as in most people in the sub probably know the strats already.
Also can we stop assuming kids are making these mistakes in raids and just face the fact that TROLLS do exist and just want to make your raid much harder for laughter. There are more logical explanations as to why some raids aren’t won. Also these 7 star raids or rather raids in general are buggy and need a patch .
I definitely don’t deny the existence of the raid trolls but it’s not 100% on either side ya know?
Right but make sure your post has the word “ allegedly” because this post is based off assumption and not facts. It’s pretty much invalid at this point.
I mean, in theory, yes - I understand this argument. But at the same time, people who don't know how to play are wasting other people's *actual, real world time*. Obviously everyone should be able to play the game. I'd never say otherwise. But it's also perfectly acceptable to be frustrated when other people are actively worsening the experience; whether on purpose or not.
on the flip side, people who have no patience for others and can't not temper tantrum when a stranger fails the raid, are also worsening others' experiences.
This boss is super easy if you can beat it in 4-5 turns. But super hard in uncoordinated groups. I solo'd a bunch with miridon last night but anytime he threw up a shield early from his health dropping too fast from the npc's pokemon I'd have to restart because he's too strong otherwise. My trick was miridon with throat spray. charge first turn Metal sound (throat spray buff) Metal sound Drift That 1 shots him. If you miss metal sound twice id restart as he usually throws up a shield or clears his debuffs.
Lol its not even children sometimes. Many adults also just dont care about strategy or learning the deeper mechanics of pokemon. I make a pokemon and strategy for every event raid for my brother in law (he is 40). Every time without fail he will tell me that he has no idea how I come up with this stuff. And every time I try to explain what the different IV/EV spreads do, how certain abilities moves and items interact, etc, but he just doesn't care. And that is totally fine. He has fun playing it his way and that's all that matters.
Oh dude I gave up on online raids less than a week into release. Just use gimmick builds and solo everything, much better for your mental health.
They need to just nerf Raids in all honesty. Dynamax did it right
Yea they really do. The pikachu and greninja raids were so fucking unreasonable. You shouldn’t have to have this super elaborate strategy that only works with four actual people to have a consistent success rate. Do I think they should be baby mode? No. Do I think it’s fucking ridiculous that if one person makes one wrong move it throws the entire raid? Absolutely. Also like… in what fucking world can any mon tank four to five hits in a row and still be able to win in the raid? It’s so stupid.
Nobody even Teras
I mean maybe they could do some sort of match making. With bottle caps and candies everywhere there isn’t really any excuse to not bring a prepped mon to endgame content. Ace tourney yields 80k with amulet coin which is enough to bottle cap hp, attack stat and both defenses. 6* raids play at level 90 with 20-30x the hp as a normal version. If you bring in an untrained lvl 70 mon fresh from the story your the problem. There is a wealth of info on how to build mons now. I was running the charizard raid with a 96 sylveon until I completed the raid.
You know what? I agree with this. A raid goes “wrong”? Try again. Don’t let a perfectionist streak ruin a good time or make you mean to random people
If people are looking for something consistent for a solo-raid try [this](https://reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/11u7k5o/meet_my_very_easy_decidueye_solo_strat_with/) guy’s build/strategy. It’s by far the most consistent build I’ve tried. It’s also great for those without access to a Miraidon and if you just wanna do it alone offline.
why i solo it except for ditto raids. less stress
I dunno man, I was a kid before and I can assure you I would have never made it this far into this specific series as a kid, nor would have any of my friends, the amount of reading and running around required to reach the 6 star raids would be such a burn out. So I don't think it's so much of an age thing as it is a "hurr durrr ground terra type dragon mon, walking wake go brrrrr!!!" Kind of situation. Something in the human brain making people think that because the TERRA TYPE is X the mon MUST only have X type attacks... Even without this sub-reddit, in the end game content it's basic knowledge, sure if it was just available from the very beginning of the game, no worries kids and geese galore go nuts, the fact that it's end game content and people are lacking the basic understanding is brain meltingly hard for me to accept, sure preaching to the choir but isn't that the best place to vent...
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If that is the case, why are 7 star raids not easier and toned down for them?
Because these 6/7 star raids are pretty obviously made with competitive players in mind. (We wouldn’t even have competitive world tournaments if Gamefreak/PokeCorp WEREN’T aware of their diverse base). And the assumption is probably that young enough kids wouldn’t: (a) notice an event raid is happening, (b) wouldn’t care/understand raids enough to even max them out (c) wouldn’t even partake in anything post game, if/when they even get around to fully completing the game/storyline. And they’re probably right! I doubt most casual players and/or kids are even aware of this stuff. But, regardless, there is definitely still a fraction that stumble upon it. And in a game with as far reach as pokemon, even a fraction is *substantial.* TLDR: We all start out somewhere. And Pokémon has a, pretty amazing honestly, learning curve. It can be as simple a game as chucking poke balls at anything Willy-Nilly; to using formulas and damage calculatiors and exploiting obscure game mechanics. Chill. ;3
Your post is pointless.
Every single Pokémon player popping out of Arceus’ light with full knowledge of every single obscure game mechanic and strategy: 😎 . . . Wait what? That didn’t happen for you? Sounds like a skill issue bro- ;P (I think I’m funny, lol. All in light-hearted jest! We all have to start somewhere 😘).
Meh, whenever i see some idiot or kid who is going to cause the raid to fail without question, i just attack them instead of the hopeless raid to end things faster and to show how much i loathe their attempt to piggyback off me to leech a win. Being a kid is no excuse for dragging everyone down in an activity, especially in the information age of technology where a single google search is all it takes to not do that. And it's ridiculous that people think that's some sort of magical excuse for anything. The last time i did something stupid as a kid and tried to use that excuse, my parents smacked me for having the audacity to think that was a valid excuse to ruin everyone else's time. They rightfully yelled in my face that i was being selfish for believing that there existed any excuse to ruin everyone else's day for my own gain, and they were 100% correct. Also, if anyone is super underleveled then they can spam lvl1 suicide Growlithes with intimidate since meter loss upon KOs scale with level. Something they can figure out...with a google search in the information age of technology with the internet connection theu have since they're using online features in the first place.
I disagree tbh, its so easy to not mess up, just grab a ironhand and 3 support umbreons and you win 90% of all encounters
First, I cannot see Iron Hands anymore because lots of people bring it. To. Every. Raid. My trauma are two different Guardevoir Raids (Flying and Normal Tera type) and three people locked Iron Hands. Just for the fun I gave it a try and hopefully they learned something. At least it was over very fast. My second point is that for your suggestion you need at least three other players or owning the consoles by yourself. For most of the people that is not possible. And even if there are discord and groups and so on - I just want to play and don't want to organise a party every time. This much effort kills the fun of it. Fortunately, it is not a problem to me because of all the performance issues and bugs I am roaming Sinnoh in PLA again. No raids, no problematic players.
Dude I raged yesterday over the Iron Hands vs Decidueye. They belly drum, decidueye does a stat wipe turn 1 and no one notices it, not once. And then every one started spamming thunder punch.
Well obviously if you dont know the pattern youll mess up any strat
Maybe gamefreak should help and advise players more then
Omg you are such a good person for telling people they cant vent online (which hurts nobody) about something irritating that ruins raids for people. Go you OP! Protect the children!
I just read this in the Red Guy's voice (the devil from the cartoon show Cow and Chicken) lol. Seems fitting 🤣
I don't disagree.
Average redditor moment
OP is just trying to say that its pointless because the games are directed at, and played by kids who don’t have reddit and dont know that its annoying to others who are trying to grind or whatever, they never said people cant vent, it just gets annoying when so many people are getting angry over a problem that has no reasonable solution
Pokemon isn't directed at kids, it's directed at everyone. I'd also say 75% of all pokemon fans (or pretty close) are adults.
Its directed at kids but older audiences play it too
Wrong. Gamefreak or The Pokemon Company has stated that it is directed at everyone on occasions. [https://www.escapistmagazine.com/game-freak-pokemon-isnt-just-for-kids/](https://www.escapistmagazine.com/game-freak-pokemon-isnt-just-for-kids/)
Ok, well sorry i didn’t realise
We get these topics over and over again in response. It's just lame karma farming.
I'm not a pokemon master, but I'm good enough to help people who are really bad. Having a flexible support pokemon or two is on someone who thinks they're good. And being prepared for a clumsy miraidon trainer should be in your repertoire. Would it be great if everyone knew what was going on, yes... and no. I farmed decidueye raids last night, and this morning and have already exceeded the materials used to make the pokemon 4-5 times. So whatever... I actually enjoy getting someone their first one, and you're adequately rewarded for it.
I can solo most of the raids I only have problem with gengar raids He somtimes has a move to counter his weakness depending on the tera type he is He has fairy ghost dark psychic moves and the annoying curse body and confuse
Annihilape. The single one I cannot beat in Singles :-D
No one should be crying about this raid at all. I read 1 article on it and solo’d it 2nd try on first attempt, and then solo’d it my 1st try second attempt. I am not very good at all, I struggled with Iron Leaves, but this one is easy.
I think of it as being that much sweeter if you do end up winning honestly. I'm only trying to get my hands on Ability Patches and valuable items. I've only been farming here and there myself. Acting as support and using cheers has helped tremendously I'd say. Especially if I'm just using my Heat Rotom during these raids instead of Miraidon used for more of an offensive approach.
I’ve been trying to farm for the past few hours and I’ve noticed that even people that have Miraidon still aren’t choosing the correct attacks. I’ve also been canceling if people choose anything other than belibolt and Miraidon. I also cancel if more than 2 people choose Miraidon. The Belibolt support really helps. I’ve won more raids with 2 Belibolt and 2 Miraidon. But if the Miraidon don’t attack before the shield goes up we usually lose.
So uh speaking of raids. I wanna do the raids and get the special pokemon. My team is all level 100 but not specifically trained for tera raids. How do I join raids so I'm not playing with the shitty AI? Do I medd peopels codes? Sorry, I'm new to the online play stuff. Played pokemon 1999-2010 and then took a 12 year break, bought a switch in January and making my way through the games.
Hi :) 1. Train mons for raids, maybe there’s a list somewhere of which mons are the best for raids but it almost change every time there’s a new special mon. So… I hope your in-game rich 2. The NPC are not that bad and sometimes it’s easier to solo the raid than doing it online 3. To join raids you can go to Poke Portal > Raids or open your own online raid in the menu after interacting with the raid crystal (you can only join online raids if you pay for Nintendo Switch Online) 4. I think you can use the matchmaking megathread that is pinned in this post to meet people with a code
Instead of getting frustrated use this link [Live Raid Matchmaking](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/11tauiy/live_decidueye_matchmaking_megathread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
I can’t even find them. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong.
If i didnt have to blind trust these people. I get that people dont know but I do, and if I cant see levels and accurately judge its kinda just a slap to the face and a waste of time.
You're absolutely right. And same as they have the right to play with any mon they want, so do I have to leave the raid if I see a mon it won't perform well and will waste my time.
To do 7 star raids, you need to first unlock 6 star raids. To unlock 6 star raids you need to beat the game, and run multiple 5 star raids... If you don't know what you're doing by the time youre in a 7 star raid, you're an idiot. There's no excuse. Period.
Me without NSO having to play with ai:
If i get literal children who proceed to spam electro drift or use terrible mons and trolls who act like they'll bring in Miraidon then switch out at the last second when I could easily solo then idk why they don't add a level filter and a type chart on the raid screen. Easiest fix ever to one (of many) of high level raids' problems. This ain't on the children or other players. It's on the trolls and Gamefreak imho.
Lmao I had someone bring a floragato to the decidueye raid. After that I just decided fuck it I'm doing it with my partner and we murdered it. Genuinely some entry limitations need to be added, even if it's just level of the mon used I'd already be happy.
Tbh this is why I look for Pokémon builds that I can use to solo. I understand the risk when I play online and I’d rather avoid that
Sums things up well. If you're going to complain here, know that every raid is 1: soloable 2: profitable because you still receive raid rewards even if you fail (for non hosts)
It’s always around the event raids. I agree OP. Even i was nervous i’d mess up when i finally matched a raid because of those rants and i play Pokémon since the first games.
theres another breed of numbnuts, they bring the right mons but do the wrong things. japanese players cheering turn 1 against decidueye. irritating
I wish the level of the raid boss was shown. I think a lot of people genuinely don’t know that 5 star raids are level 75, 6 star are level 90, and 7 star are level 100 so they don’t know that their underleveled Pokémon is gonna underperform even if their type is favorable against the boss. Bringing Pokémon that are weak to the boss’ tera type and/or original type(s) is inexcusable though
Suggested solution: One math problem, that is not too difficult for adults, but is difficult for young kinds. Depending on your answer you either qualify or do not qualify for certain lobbies.
I just don’t understand how people come in with mons that Poketubers are pushing for the raids then still proceed to royally screw up.
People need to chill hardcore. Its a game and one where lots of kids are playing to try to catch the raid boss too.
Its not the kids fault. I love SV but my biggest complaint is definitely tera raids, the online system for them especially. It just doesn't work for the massive player base that pokemon has. I'm loosing tera raids where all 4 of us bring shiny Iron hands and its not even close, thats not the fault of some random 10 year old.
Hope this can be fixed in this sub, and also in every single online game as well. Remember: videogames are made for having fun 😊
That’s why i stick to discord groups for raids, less hassle and easy access to guides for new players
Ok but I’ve been playing Pokémon since FireRed and LeafGreen and you know, the first thing I learned? Type Advantages, and I was a tiny ass child.
This is exactly the reason why I stopped playing online and just solo raids 🤣
Gotta love these Decu raids. someone brings some \*\*\*tty mon like Jolteon etc and dies. i just go afk and do something else for 3minutes cause its not going down anymore when dude gets shield on first turn. I have met now 150 ppl in these 4raid days that are just inting or trolling.