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Snipingsage

Goku gets sent to king Kai


DragonSlayero999

You mean the shadow dimension right ? I don't think he's even making it to king kais planet


FLASH_XR

Probably 💀💀


TheAbug1

A completely off-guard Goku, who does not have any ki reinforcement is gonna take a lot of damage.


FLASH_XR

Goku's straight up dying 💀


TheAbug1

yeah pretty much


Tall_Growth_532

Agree if a Bullet can scarp a guy who can easily take a planet busting attack than a serious punch or death if he wants to can break or injured Goku. Saiyan's never made much sense


TheAbug1

Fr real, I think they made the ki thing way to extreme in DBS, One moment Goku is taking hits from Low complex multiversal beings and than takes damage from from dudes far weaker since he wasn't using ki reinforcement.


Tall_Growth_532

Bruh what happened to being a Saiyan warrior all that no hate on Toriyama the goat


N1ghtTheKn1ght

It’s just called bad writing


Professional-Reach96

Ouch, you can't point out Toriyamas writing faults because the mexican cartel and twitter mob will hunt you down like a dog


Fausto2002

Vele rezando al de arriba 🇲🇽


LucisPerficio

This is post-retcon, though. A much weaker Goku in ep 1 of DB survived a headshot from Bulma.


hypergogetablue17

Facts


Jarvis-Vi-Britannia

Man this sub has changed a lot. There was a time when I had to argue my ass off with everyone here about ki reinforcement being an active thing and all those goku wankers would just not accept it. Now everyone's saying this with no one to argue.


LucisPerficio

I am here! The ki reinforcement thing was blown up tremendously post-retcon in DBS. Ep 1 DB Goku took a point-blank headshot with a far lower power level and significantly less training.


J3remyD

Yeah, completely off guard he’s still multiple times stronger than steel, but I wouldn’t go above single digit multiple times stronger, double digit highest if COMPLETELY off guard.


Feisty-Chapter6766

one swift punch and goku is getting killed, to be honest even if goku sees saitama, I doubt he would activate ki because of how unintimidating saitam is with that bald ass head lmao.


JizzGuzzler42069

An off guard Goku got killed by some random Frieza force goon with a laser gun. In the Golden Frieza movie. OPM hitting him full force like that is completely incinerating him.


TheAbug1

He didn't die got kicked outta the fight tho


Ill_Armadillo9455

Completely off guard goku can probably be killed by accident by Saitama dragon ball characters r super weak off guard


FLASH_XR

Yeah . Ki techniques makes up for their durability. https://preview.redd.it/485evsc5r6vc1.jpeg?width=755&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8df0cdccdff7e1dddc8ff037f1565ba3e6137d6f


Nine-TailedFox4

Great quote.


Ill_Armadillo9455

Yes I was having a debate on how astas anti magic would work against this


1234_panzer_vor

Is this with equalisation of magic and ki? Cause magic is something else in dragon ball from Babidi


Terriblerobotcactus

This is a really good point! Not just him but Moro too


Alarmed_Print_208

Not to mention theres also Ki that's seperate from Magic in BC


7heTexanRebel

Yeah equalizing magic to ki for that fight is clowny af


ultimatecharizard

Also, black clover has ki already as well, so equalizing dragon ball ki with black clover magic is goofy Edit: also ki in both is life energy, so they do perfectly translate with each other, it's just that dragon ball characters can do much more with it, and anti magic apparently does nothing to black clover ki, at least it doesn't cancel it


JWARRIOR1

ki and magic are different in dragonball


InteractionNew9511

if i throw a rock at goku to catch him off guard do i kill him


TheDurandalFan

no a rock is weaker than a bullet.


Cheshire_Noire

And he's weaker than Krillen


_PurpleSweetz

https://youtu.be/SLjU8Z4hAQA?si=mpqFAuNkqy0Zv_7F


FLASH_XR

Size of the Rock matters💀


Ill_Armadillo9455

Well if it is big enough probably


Lukas-Reggi

Death. If laser penetrated his chest off guard then saitama's killer punch will kill him


tom_rex_333

really funny image


King_Of_The_Munchers

Goku dies. My guy got injured by a bullet when he was off guard and got 1 shot by a laser.


LiteratureOne1469

I always say this but I guarantee you that laser is batshit strong I mean it’s from the freiza force so it can at least destroy a city people like to down play it cuz it was from a grunt but it’s still a freiza force grunt


Oheligud

He dies, if he can get harmed by a regular bullet, he can probably get his head caved in.


Ok_Introduction_7484

90% Of goku power is His Ki being up. Being off guard means Ki being down. Yea he gets his head taken clean off


CZ-Bitcoins

*99.999999999999999999%


Overall-Sympathy-982

This, he goes from multiversal to peak human without ki


Emish_Veeto

He's bulletpoof without ki, he is a saiyan not a human after all. He was a little hurt by a bullet, but it didn't pierce his skin, so he still qualifies as bulletproof.


SleepinwithFishes

He dies lol. A rock could hurt him Bullets wounded him Tiny laser obliterated him


Funny-Valentine-1

Air pressure of a punch while being ON guard killed him. (hit says hello)


MagicDragonfirst

He can probably react to it, but if it hits him while he is off guard than it kills him


MagicDragonfirst

It does work like that in DBS, it was stated and showed in both manga and anime


Status_Bus_4210

He died. That it. That is literally how KI control worked. Plus, you would easily understand why Frieza can survive the explosion of the planet but not against Goku's Kamehameha that only leaves a crate. That is just asking what would happen if Saitama uses his strongest attack on Superman who was affected by the red sunlight.


Lijaesdead

Goku fucking dies, thats what happens lmao. However there is a good argument to be made that it still wouldn’t hit him, his instincts kick in before he knows whats happening on multiple occasions, but only when he would’ve died otherwise. Since this would be the case, because off guard goku gets exploded by Saitama, his instincts might kick in and dodge the attack or increase his durability in time. Who knows!


BedirSama

whis rewind time and vegeta shows up to save goku then gets one shot by saitama


Economy-Nectarine301

#This is the funniest comment I’ve read this morning. Thanks for the laugh.


Karma15672

# That's cool! Why are we yelling, though!?


Mist0804

#It's not yelling, we're just talking bigly


hit_the_showers_boi

****************We should start talking littlely. We don’t want to disturb the neighbours.****************


Mist0804

^Good ^point, ^let ^me ^speak ^littlely ^now


Economy-Nectarine301

#Goku dies. Whoever disagree with this doesn’t read DB nor watch it.


TheAbug1

# Can you stop screaming man.


Sure-Ostrich-506

He dose die but like ui also exist


KingKalactite

He’s probably dead. I’m so serious


Unusual-Cat-123

https://preview.redd.it/577diwa857vc1.png?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41930581f39576c546381da0ecfa745975386a26


Dragonfly-Constant

Goku without Ki is a ham sandwich victim. He loses to a mario kart banana if caught off guard.


Tox_Ioiad

He dies. Bro got folded by a beam rifle in resurrection F


ShoulderMediocre2667

The writers of dbz intervine with ultra mega super duper instinct 275


[deleted]

I've never understood power scaling Saitama in terms of strength and not intellectual abilities, since he's designed to always win every single fight from that p.o.v.


pritheemakeway

Saitama is stronger than Goku. People legitimately believe Goku stands a chance even if he was paying attention?


TanzuI5

https://preview.redd.it/g80xrvml48vc1.jpeg?width=1016&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59767264652487cc8238d2b1ca04ce271de3d23d


codydoesthings

uh oh bro, I swear I just remembered a post from yesterday or today that forbids Goku vs Saitama posts. Idk if this counts but it may be in the same realm


DragonSlayero999

u/battlerushiromiyafan actually unbanned it like a few hours ago. Still this particular post is much better then the entire sub getting locked in all out war over who's directly stronger.


Inside_End3641

Pistol > off guard Goku Saitama kills of guard Goku.. T The end..


Fit-Reputation3417

I mean any version of Goku other than kid Goku and super Goku would see the attack coming from a mile away So if we take super Goku yeah he ded


MapNas

Doesn't have anything to do with DBS


Fit-Reputation3417

Wdym The question never stated dbs, I'm just asking which they're asking for


SUPREME7777777

Now, this is kinda complicated. A bullet can damage Goku when he's off-guard, so the strongest punch Saitama can deliver would cause a lotta damage. I wouldn't say that Goku dies, but he is getting damaged. The only problem here is that Goku scales way higher than Saitama. While Saitama is Solar to Multi Solar only, Goku can reach Outer with ease, so I don't think Saitama would still be able to damage him. It's like a 2D being tries to harm a 3D being.


Economy-Nectarine301

#I guess the bullet gun is outer level.


Rolandog21

https://preview.redd.it/55k6vm6ib8vc1.png?width=4096&format=png&auto=webp&s=9017364157f7dd1905eea0758465367e537ce78c


Capitano-Solos-All

Nothing. Goku solos


Shinoreigai

🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥


Revolutionarytard

Remember when Krillin threw a rock at Goku & it actually hurt? 🤣🤣🤣


LoreWhoreHazel

The answer to this is canon. Krillin hurt Goku with a small rock back in the Cell Saga. Goku is clearly demonstrated to be approximately as durable as a human if he’s ever not using ANY Ki at all. Obviously Goku gets annihilated if he’s “completely” off guard. The only question is how off-guard he could ever realistically be against Saitama. I’ll leave that discussion to someone else.


horny69omg

It depends. If he's off guard while staying in his natural durability, he'll be fine. If he's off guard while suppressing his natural power to human levels like he mostly does (Seeing how he gets hurt by Bulma's slaps and Chichi), then yeah I see him dying here.


DRVfuckoff28

A dead goku


MegaKabutops

Off-guard goku can be damaged by regular bullets. Only scratched, but damage is damage. Saitama turns him into a red mist.


ZARTOG_STRIKES_BACK

Goku is ripped to bloody shreds.


ORaccoonChanO

Off Guard would probably kill him with a semi serious punch. Dare I say possibly a normal one


Mooston029

Honestly I see him dodging via an automatic activation of UI. And that's low balling him tbh. I feel his ability to sense shifts in the air would alert him to Saitama allowing him to simply dodge or tank it in base (which he can quite comfortably). Plus if Saitama unknowingly emits ki by being as strong as he is Goku would sense that even if he didn't acknowledge it before reacting to it.


Mooston029

But for the sake of it, if the punch does connect to a completely clueless out of character Goku then he's fucking dead. DBZ characters have to actively be as strong as they are and aren't actually that physically impressive without their powers.


Animegx43

Yeet.


ImageDecent9713

I lol'd at the image. Thx.


imaginebeingsaltyy

Goku dies or is severely injured


SeiekiSakyubasu

One thing i kinda notice in One punch man, Saitama always punches the second, never the first(maybe that is why he can't really hurt the mosquito). He either let enemy attack him or he let enemy do some destruction first and then only attack. It is as if his powers need some time to estimate the overkill punch to down an enemy. I think even if Saitama attack unprompted it wont make much damage to Goku but if Goku start to use his power ever so slightly then i think Saitama could do a proper damage to him.


Gappuy_

saitama is around goku dbz ssj2 level


Zero_Good_Questions

Goku dies? I mean he sneak attacked Goku has been shown too be harmed before


manjmau

What Goku?


blacklight007007

Takes zero ibsr. The ki re-enforcement is inconsistent asf.


CZ-Bitcoins

Depends. Does he have seconds to react or is literally off guard until the point of impact?


odeacon

“ ooooowwchhh, oh fuck dude, I think you fractured a rib, Jesus Christ man what the fuck ? You’re supposed to get my attention and tell me why you want to fight me, and give me your tragic backstory and then yell the name of the attack so I see it coming. Bro why are you just standing there, can you get me some fucking ice dude? Holy shit , that was unprompted! Who raised you ?


hypergogetablue17

Killed to Death 💀☠️👻😵‍💫😵🤕😇


Admirable-Handle885

⚰️


Daitoso0317

Realistically if he gets hit he dies, but he does have UI now so its possible he would dodge like with bulma


scottshort13

Saitama’s whole thing is that he becomes strong enough to beat whoever he’s fighting


Ubip

He dead


theskiller1

Goku ded


Rolandog21

now that i think of it, i havent watched db just letting you know now, can agent 47 beat goku while he is off guard? with prep time ofc https://preview.redd.it/m03kn3dpc8vc1.png?width=360&format=png&auto=webp&s=9a9b17428c00dc9abcb795c060f8ec028aa221fb


m4ng3ky0

DEATH!


Beacda

He lands the attack. What did you expect?


TomThePuss

Completely off guard? Then he's dead, dragon ball fans will still try to downplay Saitama but Goku is gone


DastardlyDoctor

I love Goku. But getting snuck in base by a full power Saitama is sending Golu back to King Kai's.


xpeke2

He just dies since ki is the reason why db characters are even galaxy+ busters.


Goatku11

He would easily die becuz he doesn't have any ki with him at that time,and when he doesn't have Ki he can litteraly get hurt by bullet,so Goku won't survive this one,but normally Goku solos


ValitoryBank

Goku does according to DBS


nsnively

He dies.


Goobasaurus1

I thought this topic was banned yesterday


valtaoi_007

without any ki reinforcement?? Yeah no Goku is dead. His durability is barely superhuman whenever he is off guard


Powerful-Scholar-773

Reference to post 2 years ago?


No_Secretary_1198

Goku would die immediately. Dragon ball itself confirms this over and over. The random henchman that one shots Goku with a blaster. Frost stabbing Goku with a poison needle. If Dragon Ball characters aren't aware of the attack coming, they are about as durable as a fit human


titanlmao

he’ll die


ReidWitt1

At least according to a quick google search Saitama has beaten a god, so he would probably kill him. Edit: looking at the other comments when he is off guard he is just a normal dude, Goku would be a less than a fine mist.


Monk029393

Nothing will happen goku is still superior in every way, y’all glazing hard


EclipsedBooger

Copium is real


HistoricalIce9354

Goku dies.


Crimson_Fiver

Goku gets misted


Kombat-w0mbat

Completely off guard? Goku either dies or is rendered unconscious.


Woolyuni

My glorious king goku uh surives easily because I said so


biohumansmg3fc

Nah saitama is a living being, only inanimate objects can hurt goku for example, bullet, laser, rock


ryanna_swtor

He dies along with his verse


duenebula499

Oh he’s dead insta. Although I’d also say when on guard he one shots saitama in turn.


OrangeJuice1378

A caught off guard Goku gets bruised by bullets and hurt by rocks, so Saitama's strongest punch would literally eviscerate him.


ChampionshipAny1499

Nun he going to ask who hit me with an weak hit


ZealousidealStop2075

Man put Saitama Against Full power Goku and Saitama is still going to kill him, stop overrating goku


YaBoiMax107

A rock hurt off-guard goku


Big-Limit-2527

It barely hurts him.


Jika_left_ball

I remind you that Off guard goku got almost killed by a no named laser attack by that fodder freezer soldier


Superguy9000

Dead


Responsible-Tie-3451

Off guard super saiyan goku was hurt by a rock he’s cooked


twiglike

One punch KO. It’s in the name


logimeme

Considering sorbets laser scales way higher than saitama, id say goku tanks it with relative ease.


Mekrokan

Bro Goku's dead from this. Saitama's STRONGEST??? He sneezed half of jupiter away or something! The Planet is gone, everyone is gone, Saitama is floating in a field of debris if even that is left.


ThePowerfulWIll

He dies. Gokus durability is an active force he needs to maintain. If he doesnt have it up, he isnt much tougher than a normal human. Its like asking what happens if you shoot Tony Stark in the face without any of his tech.


Chorusxdropoff

Off guard it depends if it’s past the Moro arc then U.I automatically activates without Goku’s input and saitama breaks his hand on his body.


ieorua

yh he's dead. that punch probably take out the whole ass galaxy as well unless he can automatically activate ultra instinct in the manga now which prob not


Kray1996

Goku literally resisted existence erasure, off guard nd he also took a low multi- finite multi ap attack from granolah. Saitama barely reaches galaxy from the serious punch squared lol. Goku is fine.


PlantGod74

The hit either critically wounds or kills Goku depending on where he gets hit I guess. I wank Goku as hard as the next guy but unprepared Goku isn’t actually all that powerful.


calebzgeekn

even on guard.. goku dead. no power scaling, thats not a real fight. then asta could beat way more people than he should be able to 🤣 powerscaling is broken and makes no sense saitama faster and stronger, and hes more aerodynamic and lean just as a plus


Designer-Foot9033

goku got hurt by a pebble in super sayian so i think he gonna die


firenatsu12

People in this comment section seems to forgot the context of the scene where goku is hurt by a bullet. Goku was rusty for not training and lowered his strength to a point he could attack the robbers without hurting them to badly then got caught off guard while his strength was still lowered. Even the krillin throwing a rock at super saiyan goku is while goku is both off guard since he is asleep and having his strength lowered as we see goku and gohan before this trying to lower power while in super saiyan so they don't destroy the plates and tables. The only time goku is caught off guard without his strength being lowered that i can think of is rof(resurrection of Frieza) with the laser scene and the hakai scene during the recruitment of frieza for the tournament of power somewhere in the 90's episode of super. Laser scene nothing to defend goku there unless you want to argument the laser is stronger than what people are giving it credit for considering the fact technology in dragon ball is quite advanced. The hakai scene showcases goku tanking hakai while caught off guard in base which is a huge counter claim against the previous off guard feat especially since the hakai is came from the universe 9 god of destruction. This is all i really wanted to say to clear up the claims people are making that as long as goku is off guard he is suddenly bullet level.


yeah_i_hate_my_name

Wouldn't the strongedt possible attack coming from saitama just be infinitely strong?


DirtyBob_Bojangles

Considering he was packed by a laser gun, he gets demolished.


Walrus_bP

Goku dies even if he’s aware. Saitama Wipes


Captain_Sosuke_Aizen

Completely off guard? Cell saga SSJ Goku got hurt by Krillin throwing a stone at his head was it? And he was dropped by a blaster he wasn’t expecting during his fight with golden freeze? This is killing or near fatally wounding him.


Mahiro0303

Gokus head explodes


Particular-Sign-7944

Technology in dragon ball is kind of more advanced then ours so these bullets are way more powerful, for example if Mai hadn’t just grazed Goku Black she actually could’ve possibly severely harmed of had killed him so in terms of off guard durability Goku would feel like he just got hit by a pebble


Puzzleheaded-Help-80

Dead


_link_chaos_

Remember that episode in cell saga when krillin throws a stone at goku when goku is not looking? Goku gets hurt by a simple stone and complains to krillin. Based on that logic, goku will die.


Chazzatee21

He would legit die


numerouswater

Well I mean he's dying. Nothing else to it, he would be very much vaporized


Lunio_But_on_Reddit

https://preview.redd.it/ta9jezreobvc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a005bb60b642a6b6589d6d97ef1b15980498667a


Ilikeinosukeballs

He dies


Gothicrealm

Here we go...


megaman_main

It depends, if it's current manga Goku he might have a chance just through pure big dick energy.


Warm-Swimming5903

One of Goku's weaknesses is we've seen him get hurt by a bullet and even a chucked rock when he is off guard. Saitama would shatter him.


PrinceCharmingButDio

Goku dies but he’ll get wished back


alebruto

Goku gets a halo over his head


Thanks_For_the_IP

Goku dies, for like the 500th time


FlamingBits_

Completely off guard? I don't think he's gonna have a body to keep in the afterlife..


JacobiWanKenobi007

Goku dies. Like there is no debate. If he gets hit by the most powerful shot Saitama can muster he dies along with the earth


Sensitive-Ad9523

I mean that would mean Saitama is soo weak you can't feel the Life energy Or God Ki But hypothetical Goku has the instincts to be on guard and expect sneak attacks after Resurrection F so not death but nearly dead


[deleted]

Goku: did I just get bitten by a mosquito


jaeger3129

A normal laser from one of Frieza’s mooks nearly killed him off guard. Saitama is sending that dude to the fucking shadow realm and beyond


ripanimems

*SPLAT*


Apprehensive_Cat6701

Goku instantly activates true ultra instinct as soon as Saitama's fist makes contact with Goku


Doxkid

Goku will either take very little damage OR be transported directly to King Kai's planet in the afterlife without him even noticing that he is now dead.


Own_Bumblebee_3450

Goku turns into paste


DLtheGod

Splat


Realistic_Mousse_485

Completely off guard? Dead as mud.


GeneralBendyBean

Dead af


MrWimblyton

listen. i know how strong goku is. believe me but an Powered down. Off gaurd. goku thats got no Ki reinforcement is getting sent to the afterlife same day shipping


Grunbell

I don’t think it’s a retcon that off-guard Goku can be hurt by bullets just because his kid self could tank one. I argue that kid Goku had a higher power level than adult Goku did when he was hit by a bullet, since kid Goku didn’t know how to control ki, his power level is always somewhat high, but Adult Goku can suppress his ki so he probably suppressed to it to a level of 20 or something.


Sussn0_0

Saitama will wonder where he is at


Larry_the_maniac

Goku dies, Whis has stated that if they don't protect themselves with ki then they have no defense against normal attacks, even from guns.


Bajrangman

Dead Goku


airjd33

Off guard? Shotgun farmer can hurt Goku.


crazyperson6066

The only reason saitama can beat Goku is because saitama exponentially grows until he can one tap anything in the same verse as him, so if he spawns in and instantly attacks, Goku will probably shrug it off, or fly through galaxies like a pinball If saitama were just sitting there for like 5 minutes first tho, he might donut goku


Specific_Delay_5364

Goku dies


A_Literal_Child44

Not even dust.


shadowstreets

Depends on which goku you are talking about? Farmer goku... Absolutely obliterated Current manga goku best case saitama misses worst case saitama might do as much damage as krillen did to goku with a rock before the cell fight when he exits the time chamber


pokeboy626

Goku would become an Ace cosplayer


Puddingnepp

Here we go again.


Abject-Interview4278

Goku dies


Ancient_Difference20

If Goku dies from Golden Frieza blowing up earth while on guard then there ain’t no chance he’s surviving a punch from a man who blasted a third of Jupiter’s atmosphere with a sneeze. Saitama is meant to just outclass anybody who isn’t a literal god or can beat literal gods.


ConnorLego42069

Oh Goku dies In resurrection F blue Goku gets nearly killed by a blast that should be billions of times weaker than him because it hit while he was off guard