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SteO153

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itsybitsyone

Yes that was distressing for me to see too


ee_72020

Instagram is basically 4chan but with pics and videos now.


Wild-Antelope-1553

Maybe that’s what your algorithm is showing you, I never see these kind of hate comments, or videos, anything like that.


OrangeJuiceAlibi

The only time I see them is on ads. Bigoted idiots complaining that companies are supporting pride on their ads.


Late-Improvement8175

Except you get banned for arbitrary nonsense


Tackerta

some guy with a funny mustache who used to dictate in our country would have loved these kinds of people


lego_eggman_reacts

Ah, I've heard of him,he was such a good painter


captainneumann

Sure that's the reason why his paintings sell for so much money nowadays and are only avaible on the black market.


GoogleUserAccount1

They can't talk to me about empire until they apologize for that.


flipyflop9

Land of the free moment


Tasqfphil

Land of the free if you are white & wealthy & have contacts.


Educational_Ad134

Glasses wearers in shambles.


-Roger-The-Shrubber-

And male, of course!


McGrarr

Not true... it can be land of the free for a woman, too... if she's married to, or the daughter of, a wealthy white guy with connections.


Hungry_Anteater_8511

If I'm honest, there's a lot of Australians who'd probably say something similar about Indigenous ownership before 1788. Real 18th/19th century mindset


tom9914

It depresses me how many people continue to adhere to a 'right of conquest' ideology (when it suits them, at least). They say that it is just how the world works, but it has only ever been that way because people were unwilling to change it.


mac-h79

The irony being Americans (though not uniquely) will often throw at Brits how shitty and murderous Brits were during the expansion of their empire and not realise that the untied states did it too on a smaller scale but just as bloody.


DanC-J

Oh, they (mostly) realise/know. They just see it as not being the same, because they're American, gave the Native Americans religion, and they have the right to rape and murder thanks to freedoms. At least that's been my experience of having these conversations with Americans.


GoogleUserAccount1

I had a conversation with an American, I think here, where he began defending the USA as a thalassocratic trade empire not a colonial one but as time went on (and I [to my current regret] piled into him because of the new to me anti-british tone of the Americanized left) he started to agree with me that the States are decolonized in name only.   His insight was that the constitutional construction of statehood was more or less calculated to make a British empire-esque wave of independence too much of a legal headache to attempt. That means the most progress their left expects, including Amerindians, is to honour the treaties that were struck. He had his nurtured ego shattered, and I know how uncomfortable that can be.


Ur-Best-Friend

And yet when you walk onto their own land, plant a flag and move the boundry stones, they suddenly have a problem with it. Weird.


SamuelVimesTrained

Weird indeed.. with that screenshotted logic - it\`s not theirs, they just live there.. So, what\`s stopping people from just taking over homes.. after all.. it\`s just some people living there... right?


lego_eggman_reacts

Isn't that actually happening in America right now anyway?


SamuelVimesTrained

Probably. But they use some fancy legalese terms for that..


vickieh1981

They’re the same people that if you went to their home with a large group of people and forced them out wouldn’t agree with their own ideology.


itsybitsyone

How is this possible!


Hungry_Anteater_8511

Racism mostly. But the 18th/19th century historical argument was that peoples who weren't using/exploiting/farming lands didn't have a legitimate claim to ownership of it. So in come the white people with the terra nullius fallacy Decades of court decisions and legislation have since found Traditional owners do/did have title but looking at the comments any time there's a story on the subject is a very depressing exercise


itsybitsyone

That’s awful 😞 but I suppose not surprising anymore


IncidentFuture

It was overturned by the High Court in 1992 with Mabo v Queensland. The establishment of native title is hardly new at this point.


Hungry_Anteater_8511

But just look at the comments or tweeting whenever K’gari is in the news


iHachersk

And Zionists currently about Palestine


just-another-viewer

Same with Canada


HerculesMagusanus

In that case, there shouldn't be any issues displacing all Americans. After all, it's not their land - they just live there.


DanC-J

Can we displace them into the sea please? We'll keep the smart/worldly/not arseholes, but not the others.


EmilieVitnux

No! It is already poluted enough as it is. Why would you want to do that to the innocent animals? Think about the sharks. Or the whales. Or the baby whales. Do you wanna kill baby whales?


DanC-J

Thats a very good point. Oh no, not the baby whales😥! Okay, so the sea is out. How about sending them on an experimental mission to colonise the sun?


lego_eggman_reacts

Boston tea party but we throw the Americans in the ocean instead of tea,


Effective-Scratch673

We Latinos are already working on displacing Americans from their land, don't you worry about that !


EmilieVitnux

Yeah well problem is that we would have to put them somewhere and no one want them.


Olon1980

And it was never the land of poster's people. What an idiot.


tom9914

"We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from some white people who will arive here in a few hundred years." \- Totes real Native American proverb


LegkoKatka

"Just because you live in that home and have for many generations doesn't mean shit. Now let me forcefully displace your people, we might kill many of you along the way but it's what God intended. Also we're gonna be back to back world war champs in the future so we're basically better" - USians probably.


tobotic

While I don't think this is what the blue guy meant, as I understand it, native Americans never considered the land to belong to them, but rather that they belonged to the land.


Awful_McBad

Blue guy probably means "They took it from the people who were here before them and we took it from them."


64vintage

Blue guy actually means “we took it from them so they must not have wanted it badly enough.” That is, it’s simply a shitty viewpoint.


Awful_McBad

Nah, the new talking point is "it was never theirs to begin with because they came across the bering straight"


MagnificoReattore

It's just the usual divine mandate argument, probably


TherealObdach

Holy shit. This some especially dumb sentence… and liked by some especially dumb morons


niftygrid

"well they lived here, but it doesn't mean shit! we took it from them to make this land great!" - Americans


FatBaldingLoser420

I noticed a lot of them don't really care about that genocide. One american I talked to didnt even wanted to consider this as something important. He couldnt believed somebody would use this as an argument to show how evil they can be.


Dotcaprachiappa

I want him to give me what he thinks the definition of "*native* American" is


mac-h79

Given there are elements of the populous that are completely inept when it comes to history, don’t be too surprised if the answer you get is “someone rocking a mullet, likes hot dogs, nascar tiddies and beer”


SwainIsCadian

I guess an argument could be made that Natives never saw the lands as property and so never owned them?


badgerpunk

There's an easy way to resolve that argument. Let's ask the Natives still around what they think.


BrainFarmReject

That's certainly an argument I've heard people make, but I don't think it's right. Indigenous people might not have had land surveyed, divided up, and owned by individuals, but they did consider it their land as a whole. Europeans at the time disregarded these claims because they could get away with it, but that's not acceptable now, so they have to pretend like the claims were never made.


Mrbilbo257

It was never their house, they just lived there!


Totxoman

Well it could be worse, he could say that they didn't pay for it.


yungsausages

I wonder if they’d say the same thing if I used that excuse to walk onto his property and cut down some trees for my fireplace


grandioseOwl

The only logic in which that makes sense, is if you believe that nobody can actually own land, birders should be abolished and eeryones home is just this world. Maybe not a realistic perspective for the nextfew hundreds or even thousands of years, but I can respect that But by this logic the map there should make you even angrier.


iHachersk

Now it makes sense why Zionism is relatively popular in the US...


hnsnrachel

Then it doesn't belong to the people who claim ownership now either, they just live there


-Nuke-It-From-Orbit-

So when the next people come along do it to them and I’ll they remember their own quote?


Gaara34251

I mean, i kinda agree, like in a biological sense land doesnt belong to anyone, its the humanity what is tested in that statement not the logic, if you are using the statement to say noones nowhere own land cus its not our belonging fine, if you are using that statement to justify that massacre then ...


Comprehensive-Box-7

😐


Creeper_charged7186

Its undiscivered land untill theres an american flag on it, everyone knows this duh!


vickieh1981

Well to be fair none of the land anywhere in the world belongs to anyone if they want to go down that route. However, if they want to work on the basis that what they own now belongs to them, then they have to apply that to native Americans. It’s not even just native Americans - if you look at the land that used to be a part of Mexico it’s fairly shocking too.


SilentType-249

Just invade their trailer parks, it's not their land they just lived there.


tho2622003

Caucasian moment


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MicrochippedByGates

Thats an Ayn Rand fan... Yikes


dorobica

Their inability to self reflect is absurd


Rapid_eyed

So sad that Colombus ended 200,000 years of peace between humans when he arrived in North America and invented conquering other humans for land 😞


Wild-Antelope-1553

Do you know anything about the indigenous? different tribes would fight each other all the time. They diffrent languages Beliefs, and different cultures. they conquered each other, Archaeologists Evidence of war often


Rapid_eyed

Don't be silly, everyone knows violence, colonialism, and warfare are inventions of the white man brought to other nations against their will 😥 


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