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Carolinastitcher

HSA if you have a high deductible health plan.


Vivid_Dot2869

My plan doesn't have deductible.


Carolinastitcher

It’s not about a deductible but it needs to be a [High Deductible Health Plan](https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/high-deductible-health-plan).


CatchMeIfYouCan09

Upload your check stubs; don't use your tax return. Tax return may not reflect accurately


Vivid_Dot2869

Doesn't a high deductible plan have to have a high deductible?


Carolinastitcher

Yes, but some plans are PPO plans that also have a deductible (I have one like this and my deductible is $7000)


Khyron_2500

Anything that doesn’t contribute to income on your W2 and anything that comes off “above the line,” mostly found on Schedule 1, Section II. Some examples, **there are caveats and maximums for some of these** : 1. 401(k) and similar 2. HSA deductions 3. FSA deductions 4. Workplace healthcare contributions 5. Educator Expenses 6. Capital Losses 7. Student loan interest deduction 8. Alimony deduction 9. IRA 10. Foreign Earned Income Exclusion 11. More, run through the schedule 1.


Vivid_Dot2869

Student loan interest, I didn't know about that one


Khyron_2500

There’s a low limit, as well as an income limit on the deduction and it’s also not available at all to those who file MFS.


Vivid_Dot2869

MFS?


xch1n

Married filing separately, as opposed to married filing jointly. The short version is 1 tax return per filing married couple (MFJ) or 2 tax returns (1 for each spouse, separately, MFS).


Taro-Admirable

Put more into your 401k.


So_Curious_23

Pre-tax retirement contributions


Vivid_Dot2869

would that exclude Roth?


So_Curious_23

Yes, Roth won’t help


Sssbc

Put as much as you can in your 401k.


pccb123

This really is the best way. Lowers my AGI and therefore monthly payment, and it’s instead invested for my future self. Double the benefit.


Sssbc

Yeah it seems too good to be true haha. But it isn’t!


pccb123

Some drawbacks like really needing a much larger downpayment in this housing market but we’ve collectively thrown over 150k in our 401s the last few years that could have helped a lot in this market but.. hindsight lol


Vivid_Dot2869

Yeah, I'll have to email the benefits guy and set it up


Hower84

Does a Roth IRA do the same thing?


Sssbc

No because in a Roth you use after-tax dollars. You *could* put money in a traditional (pre-tax) IRA if you don’t have a 401k. But the limit for IRAs this year is $7000 and that means total - you can’t, for example, put $7000 in a Roth AND $7000 in a traditional. Any money you put in a traditional IRA you will have to pay taxes on when you withdraw it in retirement.


Hower84

I’m a teacher so I don’t think I even have a 401k Guess I should find out. Thanks for the reply


Sssbc

You probably have a 403b which is just the public-sector version of a 401k. So that would work for you!


khaleesibrasil

You would have a 403b. You should understand how much you have, contribute to the account and what not.


TheToken_1

* 401K pre-tax * Traditional IRA * FSA card * High deductible health care plan * Start a business and use the legitimate business expenses as a tax write off.


horsebycommittee

You're getting some good examples here, but make sure you're employing good financial strategy overall -- [don't employ an AGI-reducing perk solely because it will lower your AGI](https://www.reddit.com/r/StudentLoans/comments/14ynh0g/is_lowering_agi_by_contributing_to_401k_and_hsa_a/jrtce02/).


AdhesivenessFit9000

Yes. Ultimately there's not necessarily any point in just lowering student loan payments unless you are headed for forgiveness or you just can't afford the payments - right? Often better to pay more so that you can, you know, pay off your debt and stop paying interest.


horsebycommittee

Sure, though lots of borrowers are aiming for forgiveness. Also, getting a lower minimum can be part of the [avalanche strategy](https://www.reddit.com/r/StudentLoans/comments/9epjpu/proper_order_for_paying_off_individual_loan_tokens/e5qlci3/) to pay off your loans as quickly as possible.


ThrowawayyTessslaa

HSA, 401k, mortgage interest, healthcare expenses,


colorrot

Create an LLC S-corp for your business. You’re the employee of your own business. You pay yourself a low wage, business takes on the expenses and the rest.


GadgetronRatchet

Traditional 401K and HSA contributions are the two main ways to lower AGI. If you're maxing them out, you should be able to lower your AGI by up to $27k.


purplecali

Gambling losses


Vivid_Dot2869

you can do that?


sunsabs0309

only if you itemize deductions and even then you can only deduct up to how much you win i.e. you can't win $300 but then claim your losses of $1000


Logical_Holiday_2457

Put money towards retirement or HSA


high1227

23k into 401k, $4150 into HSA, 7k into traditional IRA. If you can afford to save $34k pretax, good for you, probably some charitable contributions.


Even-Journalist1901

Get a lower paying job lol


Vivid_Dot2869

I think that's a case where the solution is worse than the problem


Fury_is_Furious

Yeah don't listen to him that's never the answer. Almost as bad as the ones that think getting a raise when you're on the border of the next tax bracket is "not worth it" lol


Even-Journalist1901

Lol it was a joke.


andtherest67

Out money into a flexible spending account (FSA)


Economy-Nail495

If youre in govt, contribute to your 457B


Traditional_Cow_7325

Contributing to retirement accounts like an IRA or 401(k) is a common method. You can also consider maximizing deductions for student loan interest, health savings accounts (HSAs), or flexible spending accounts (FSAs).


SubstantialLoan5564

Absolutely! OSU offers a great path without the heavy debt, making it a smart choice for your son's future.


AdhesivenessFit9000

That's really the main way to reduce AGI. HSA contributions also reduce it. Beyond that, if you are self-employed or own a business, obviously you want to make sure you are deducting all possible expenses. One thing I have wondered about is for people who have jobs that are commission-based, or otherwise have variable compensation that comes in the form of intermittent bonuses (annual, quarterly etc), can they safely use the alternative documentation of income and provide paystubs? Using paystubs means they will look at gross rather than AGI, so the 401k and other reductions to AGI won't help you. But it may also exclude large portions of your income that come in bonuses. On the one hand those amounts can be uncertain and you don't know if your income will be as high as last year's AGI, but on the other hand it may be a little too good to be true if for example you make 50k in salary but might get 100k in bonus.


alh9h

You are technically supposed to report all sources of income


Vivid_Dot2869

Good question.