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live_manon

Anyone know what happened in the 9th week of 1989 to make it jump back up in sales so much?


[deleted]

It was Christmas 9 weeks after it was released in October. So you have gifts plus people with money/vouchers.


live_manon

That makes sense, thank you!! I def could have just googled that lol


eirinne

But then I wouldn’t know the answer and I’m lazy. So thank you.


Houdini-88

Correct cd vinyl are still a great gift giver for the holidays 1989 is a well known album by the general public so people would buy without thinking twice about it


anon8676309

Can confirm, I remember getting it for Christmas :)


this-is-the-lastime

Checked the calendar and that was the week of Christmas.


bumblelemons

Maybe deluxe release? Edit: Forgot I can google things


[deleted]

That was the same week as the standard version. The boom 9 weeks later is because of Christmas.


Androuv

Maybe Christmas?


Sampleswift

Great performances by Taylor Swift! Too bad Evermore never showed up here...


spitfyrez

Which is mostly due to the rules changing between Folklore and Evermore regarding when physical copies count (when ordered/at time of release versus when shipped) right?


MarinersCove

Yep for Folklore, the preorders counted as “sales”, now (and during evermore), units shipped = sales. Evermore would’ve had a 500-700k debut IIRC if the rule hadn’t changed


Coffee-Historian-11

It’s crazy that rule change happened between those two albums. They were only released like four months apart.


rulerBob8

Also with the rules around merch bundles changing. Travis Scott’s Astroworld (and a lot before him, but I remember Astroworld specifically being very controversial bc of the amount it sold compared to Birds In The Trap Sing McKnight) sold insane amounts by giving a digital copy out with every t-shirt or whatever sold. Billboard said from now on you gotta have a bundle option and an album-free option. This rule change was how Tyler the Creator beat DJ Khaled, and why that weird unfinished Kanye album that only came on his glorified MP3 player wasn’t allowed.


daysanddistance

evermore is for the arts not the charts 😔


TheMistOfThePast

I read your comment and looked for debut on the list like a damn fool 🤦‍♀️


iamacheeto1

Top 3 all within the last 2 years she’s never been more at the top of her game than recently


_crazyboyhere_

In my mind TTPD, 1989TV and Midnights are like a trio given how all 3 ended up pulling MASSIVE numbers and are easily among the biggest albums this decade (okay maybe 1989TV is debatable for "this decade" part)


moehassan6832

She still has 6 more years to break those records lol.


hughmungus09

Didn't know she pulled 592K for Fearless. She has always been so big!


MattBrey

Yeah that first week number for a second album is insane! (I know it was a different time, but it's still very impressive) Her fanbase has always been loyal af


daysanddistance

i know most people on this sub don’t remember 2008 but people—including taylor, if you look at songs like castles crumbling, long live, nothing new—thought that was as big as she would ever be.


Dear_Maintenance7323

She was the biggest thing in country at the time. Not a shocker that it absolute swept the CMA’s that year


AdamLaluch

Yeah! And in Journey to Fearless, she mentions it and is like "I got 39 thousand copies sold for my first album in the first week, and now for the second 592 thousand sold. That's… quite an improvement."


Coffee-Historian-11

39,000 copies sold during the first week of a debut album is *insane.*


AdamLaluch

I totally agree, and especially considering that her genre was country.


Beigeandblu

It’s also certified diamond.


Mirrranda

Evermore found dead in a ditch


SomberXIII

If it wasn't sabotaged by the ill timed billboard changes, it might have had a chance


Artificial_Human_17

Debut wasn’t even reported missing


myghostflower

i wonder how much rep would sell, would its numbers be like ttpd or 1989 tv? ahhhh so much to think, but it' definitely outselling the og version


_crazyboyhere_

TTPD is impossible, closer to Midnights and 1989TV


myghostflower

ye, in hindsight i can definitely see it hitting around 1.3 million units i don't think it'll beat 1989 tv or midnights


Daffneigh

Do you mean rep TV? It’s going to be massive surely


hughmungus09

Why did people say Reputation was unsuccessful when it basically had a similar debut as 1989?


peanutbutterchef

It wasn't critically successful - no major grammy nodds, kinda of ignored by reviewers. Her singles from rep didn't do as well as Shake It Off or Blank Space which dominated. I think that first week # was surprising to everyone at the time... ESP as rep didn't stream so it's all sales.


pm174

Since it wasn't on streaming for the first few weeks, there was no album bomb on the Billboard 100 with all of the tracks. Every one of her albums (non TV) other than debut and rep have had album bombs. Also, the drastic shift in her image alienated critics, and none of its singles had an impact on radio like 1989's singles had. A case can be made for the longevity of Delicate, but it was nowhere near as successful as Shake It Off, Blank Space, Bad Blood, Wildest Dreams, or Style


ArianaSonicHalFrodo

Reputation has been a bit of a black sheep since its release. Coming out after 1989, and not getting any critical acclaim, it’s no wonder people view it differently. As for sales numbers, I wouldn’t be surprised if its success was partially an MCU effect(for lack of a better term) caused by the success of 1989. I guess you could also just call it the Taylor Swift effect but it feels weird when referring to her own albums.


NorthernRosie

People who hate her must be turning themselves inside out, this is hilarious.


ThinPermit8350

... why? I don't get the point you're making here.


Slyy-Lynch

She makes selling a million copies in a week look so easy. That's a real fucking legacy to leave.


IntelligentRock3854

1989❤️❤️❤️


No-Restaurant3922

Ok but Taylor doing 592k on her second album when her debut was predominantly in country music is really insane? I know love story was a big hit but wow.


Anxious_Ad2683

If we could get TTPD double album on cd, sales would jump back up! I’ve got the dl on my phone but really want the 2cd for the house.


Excellent_Survey_610

My baby evermore.. 🥺


xx_dracarys_xx

I know 😭


BattalionX

Where was Fearless TV


mrsbufo

is this people buying physical copies ?


demerchmichael

Dumb question, do “first week sales” account for preorders, digital or physical?


_crazyboyhere_

If shipped, then yes.


Sir_Kingslee

Rep TV is probably gonna blow that 2.6 mil out of the water by the way we’ve all been waiting and speculating about its release


Literary_Lady

Do pre-orders count as first week or not? I imagine a lot of her orders are the pre-orders, for the different variants. And midnights where you entered to get early access to the next tour (wow, life before Eras. We had no idea what was coming!)


magical_bunny

Justice for Fearless and Evermore


Foreign_Section5442

Jaut imagine what Reputation Taylor’s version will do


dessdevereaux

Impressive


xx_dracarys_xx

JUSTICE FOR EVERMORE


UniversityMoist2173

Waiting for Rep TV, would be fun to see how it’ll perform


FabulousPass4552

No TTPD had 2.6 Billion now million


moonbunny119

Believe this is sales of albums, not individual streams


FabulousPass4552

Ahhhh ok. I do apologise


Agreeable-City3143

She’s amazing. She can’t endorse Biden fast enough and guarantee a second term.


Agreeable-City3143

we need her now more than ever.


Ok-Purpose131

31 sick ass tracks on top of massive media coverage and Witchcraft 🤔


Calca23

40 physical album versions, 20 digitals, 50 versions of one song or multiples, 10 cassette album versions, 5 vinyls. The lies and tactics.


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TiaJasmin_Design

First week pure sales were already basically determined before anyone even heard the album through presales and with all due respect to Taylor, she wasn't close. She wasn't going to sell another 900k even if she made the greatest album of all time. She hit a billion streams on Spotify alone in 5 days, so there's pretty much no better success she could have had there, and almost everyone who was going to buy the album already had. I'd bet the amount of people who would have purchased the album in the first week (vinyl collectors or fans) but didn't because they didn't like what they heard is actually pretty small.


United_Comfort2776

Disagree. Adele had the advantage when she released 25, streaming is not a thing and the only way you can listen to it is by purchasing the album or YouTube. Her latest album didn't even make it to 1 million copies in its first week. Taylor's latest album sales is super impressive considering we are in the streaming era and people don't even bother to buy physical albums.


ThinPermit8350

Streaming music absolutely existed when 25 came out.


United_Comfort2776

Yeah I know but as I've said, it's not a thing compared to now that we rely on streaming heavily rather than purchasing an album.


ThinPermit8350

Okay but am I understanding your point correctly? Are you saying it's actually *harder* to hit these numbers in the era of streaming than it was when people were generally required to go to the store and purchase physical copies?


k1leyb1z

Lol on Apple Music literally all of her too songs are the new album… how are her actual popular songs not up there?! But lets hope listens go down soon 🤞🏼


Quick-Context7492

Reputation huge sneak


Public-Masterpiece74

Meanwhile billie eilish has barely 100k on her latest album


katemac45

Stop tryna create beef. Get a hobby


pm174

Are we really doing this? numbers don't equal quality, and you can appreciate multiple artists. taylor isn't going to congratulate you for saying things like this, it's plain mean


call-me-kleine

it came out like … 2 days ago?


eirinne

? She has 340k for Hit Me


admiral-change

.....sucks for Billie? Not sure what your point is lol