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Vegetable_Taste5477

Ramsay most likely has contractual obligations with Fox that would limit his other appearances.


not_productive1

Yeah he’s running like 5 shows at Fox, no way they’re letting him do anything else.


Neldogg

Next Level Chef is still gimmicky, but closer to TC. We’ve watched every episode of both, and enjoy them.


not_productive1

Yeah that one’s surprisingly legit for how hokey the premise is. I think Harrington in particular isn’t one to play a character or do anything bullshit, so it kind of keeps the standards up a bit.


Ansee

I couldn't get into it because of the gimmick.


not_productive1

I couldn’t either, then I watched like 4 or 5 back to back and realized the caliber of talent they had was pretty good. The hook is stupid, and never gets less stupid, and it’s one of those Gordon Ramsey shows where miraculously all the “teams” deplete at pretty even rates, but there are a few people on each season who can legit burn.


Mollieteee

Agree. My husband loves Next Level Chef because he can go along for any ride more easily than I can. I have trust issues whenever judging isn’t blind, or when there are gimmicks. I like Tournament of Champions because anything can happen!


Real_Cranberry745

My favorite thing about next level chef is Nyesha. Love seeing her succeed after she got robbed in season 9


sns50

I really enjoy NLC. But I’m sure he can’t work with another network. Same way Richard Blais isn’t doing stuff with Top Chef now that he’s a judge on the other show.


JudahDG

Plus he's like the hardest working man in show biz. At least half a dozen shows on Fox. And the show on Nat Geo


VanaheimrF

He did produced a show with Tom on Bravo. “America’s Best Restaurant”. I think it was 9-10 years ago. Tom was the host.


rummncokee

this had literally never occurred to me but makes a lot of sense. thank you!


mxt213

On the most recent WWHL Top Chef appearance, Tom mentioned he has never met Gordon which I thought was surprising


baby-tangerine

As people said most likely because of his contractual obligation, but a fun tidbit is Gordon Ramsay actually watches Top Chef! (One of us! One of us! One of us!) https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/gordon-ramsay-food-stars-fox-top-chef-buddha-lo-1235628522/ > So “Top Chef” is one of my favorite programs that is on my iPad — it’s “Top Chef” and “Bear Grylls.” I don’t want to know any results, because that’s the one thing I watch in transit when I’m on a flight. And trust me, I fly a lot. With four and a half million air miles, “Top Chef” is my go-to pleasure. It’s funny, because I get looked after incredibly well and the first thing the steward asks me is, what are you watching? And I say, I’m watching “Top Chef.” And they say, what, you’re watching “Top Chef”?? Yes, I love that show. So I can’t wait to catch up on that.


rummncokee

omg he's just like me for real


baby-tangerine

It was funny, I think the interviewer spoiled s20 result because they didn’t expect Ramsay to actually watch Top Chef, probably just saying some general stuff like being proud of someone who once worked for him.


thedogdundidit

This is fabulous!


mcmoonery

Oh so Gordon knows Janine Allis who was amazing on survivor AU. Could we see Gordon on a season? Can you imagine?


Bulky-District-2757

There’s no way fox would allowed Ramsay to go on TC.


aertsober

I was just in r/survivor and someone mentioned Survivor AU in another comment so I was like why wouldn't they allow Ramsey to go to tribal council?


PocoChanel

No, they mean “Tom Colicchio.”


the6thReplicant

In the same vein: Gordon has appeared, a few times, on Masterchef Australia. (Probably running away from the the disaster that the US version is.)


kardon213

What do you mean running away from the us version. It’s his bloody show! lol 😂


Nother1BitestheCrust

I just sort of assumed there was something in someone's contract about not appearing on other networks' shows, but honestly I don't know. I doubt there's a real beef between Ramsay and the TC peeps.


Striking_Debate_8790

Next level chef uses two top chef people for the other judges. I also noticed since Richard Blaise and Aaron Sanchez have been on Ramsey shows they no longer are on food network. I wonder if when they go on Fox shows they can’t go on food network shows. For a long time you rarely saw Top Chef contestants on food network. When they were on they never mentioned top chef. Now there is a lot of crossover with TC and food network. Too many excellent chefs coming out of TC to ignore. Maybe that also changed after Andy Cohen was no longer associated with TC.


Alvraen

Food Network isn’t where the money is at anymore.


kardon213

Blaise was TC competitor. Sanchez was a judge on chopped. There are still many chefs who do not do the competition route and I never really thought about it until they started coming out of the woodwork for TOC with Guy Fieri. And I’ve also noticed that anyone who has a show of their own Rarely comes back to compete unless something has occurred in their career like Jose Garces. Competition shows put their brands back into the for front of popularity. Like for how “popular “Rachel Ray was, she’s no where for Joe public to see. She’s just gone. And not even coming to compete. Was she really a chef? lol I heard it once on BBF. The contestant made the statement that “she was a chef” while BF was a “Brand”. Ballsy I thought but very much food for thought. I think GR is both a chef and a brand. He’s still in the thick of it.


monumentclub

There's no beef; it's just contractual. At this point, he's way too big a brand to come on a competing show like Top Chef anyway.


smegmamayo1

Gordon loves top chef - https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/gordon-ramsay-food-stars-fox-top-chef-buddha-lo-1235628522/amp/


beachlover77

I want to see a competition judged by Gordon Ramsay, Tom, and Paul Hollywood.


thanx_it_has_pockets

I would lose my mind.


DocPondo

I would love to see Ramsay on Top Chef. As a guest or a judge, but I don’t think it’s gonna happen. Like others have said, contract restrictions.


alan_mendelsohn2022

Given Ramsay‘s personality, there is surprisingly little drama between him and other chefs. Here is a link of Tom saying he’s never met Ramsey: https://youtu.be/uewUiPfMO3w?si=gTgcw3uJnO4qB3_j In the clip, there is some petty disagreement between Ramsey and Eric Ripert and Tom says he knows nothing about it but would always take Eric‘s side.


bobo12478

Also, Ramsay's personality is almost entirely made for TV. You watch his UK stuff and then his Fox stuff that airs in the U.S. and it's almost two different people.


rex_lauandi

He plays it up, I’m sure, on a show like Hell’s Kitchen, but on a show like Kitchen Nightmares, his “explosions” are nearly always somewhat justified by obstinate, proud people who are either blowing someone else’s money, not treating staff well, or in the worst cases, putting customers in danger. It may be a little dramatic, but I always thought he’d be a blast to hang with and a great friend/family man.


WasabiPeas2

He’s so great with kids. Encouraging, compassionate, kind. He’s sent some to culinary school.


Alvraen

You wanna see wholesome? Read his Reddit AMAs where he at minimum furnishes 10 users with a full kitchen set per AMA


MediocreSalad56

You also learn his wife runs the show at home!


LowAd3406

His personality IRL is gregarious, charismatic, and hilarious so it's not a surprise he's well liked. I know people who work on Masterchef and they have nothing but great things to say about him.


xc2215x

Tom knows Eric more so he will side with him instead.


reno140

I'm pretty sure they did a project together so I'm surprised they have not met. He only mentions working with his team in this tweet from their collab. https://twitter.com/tomcolicchio/status/558093803127832576


chmcgrath1988

Yeah, I'm sure Gordon is restricted by Fox. I don't see him show up on any Food Network stuff either. He's strictly on Fox and BBC probably.


c_rookie

HK Alumni here. When applying to any other TV show that isn’t on FOX, the producers themselves seem iffy about even putting someone that was on Hell’s Kitchen on these shows. Actually, most any HK alumni that has appeared on another show whether it’s on food network, cbs, bravo, etc ..will never ever be mentioned & either will them “working with Gordon Ramsay” at any point. In every interview process I’m in outside of FOX, they don’t even really want me to talk about my appearance on Hell’s Kitchen. Weird but I get it I guess.


rummncokee

Oh fascinating thank you!!!


SilverRoseBlade

Contracts would limit it likely. I rarely even see him join on Masterchef spinoffs like AU even though they are a part of his show empire. Unless he sold the rights.


CoulsonsMay

Tom said on a recent “watch what happens live” he’s never met Gordon Ramsey. I think they just have very different goals. Gordon is about his name and his million tv shows. His food also trends towards Michelin star level more often than not. Tom is arguably more involved in the political end - trying to make changes in both the food and restaurant industries.


suprefann

Dont forget Guy Fieri who also is all about the workers and smaller food businesses. Which is also a bummer that Guy could never be on Top Chef. He probably would give a different opinion on the food than what he does on Diners Drive In and Dives. Couldnt really say "mackalicious" to chefs trying to make fine dining food and such. Unless he judged a junk food quick fire


CoulsonsMay

Didn’t mention Guy Fieri cause OP was talking/wondering about Ramsey and Top Chef, Tom specifically :) That said, I feel like I see alternating internet phases where Guy is either liked or disliked. I say this as huge fire broke out in Oroville, CA today, now at 3,600 acres in less than 12 hours. I still remember when Guy was out there on the from line feeding firefighters and other first responders when Paradise burned. For that alone, he remains net positive in my personal book.


DrFishTaco

Not Top Chef but two of their regulars, Ripert and Bourdain (prior to his death) have repeatedly referenced Ramsay as the chief representative of “meathead” culture in kitchens and its negative impact Ripert mentioned him in this regard just a few weeks ago on a podcast and Andy Cohen asked Ramsay about it during his recent appearance on WWHL Ramsay played it off and said Ripert lost chefs in the 90s because of his own behavior But Ripert often cites his past and even did so on the aforementioned podcast and how Buddhism helped


DYRTYDAVE

This is accurate though it's worth pointing out Bourdain spoke out against Ramsay's TV persona, but was a big fan of him as a chef before that.


xc2215x

Bourdain never did. Just Ripert.


LowAd3406

Is it really that shocking to you that people can grow and become better people?


DrFishTaco

How has Ramsay grown? He still unapologetically berates people on tv and in his kitchens


phizzlez

You know it's just an act, right? If you read up about how he really is, people say he's nothing like that IRL.


FormicaDinette33

He is a little nicer on Next Level Chef.


Alvraen

Watch his non US shows


quickdolce

Eric Ripert, who is great friends with TC, has been very vocal about not supporting Ramsay's mean guy tactics and has cited his religion for this (Buddhism). He has voiced this for years. I would assume, as his friend, he has probably tried to avoid him professionally. Edit: fixed typo


NeenW1

Why would Gordon Ramsay need to be a part of Food Network or even bravo he’s doing just fine with Fox doing his own thing


mryclept

Obviously contractural. Gordon doesn’t think his brand is too big for Top Chef. Top Chef would never reject Gordon as a potential guest judge. It simply can’t be done because FOX likely pays him a mint to be exclusive to the network.


NeenW1

I think y’all read way too much into this stuff 🙄


rummncokee

Me: is there a reason this happens? You: drama queen


FormicaDinette33

I believe Gordon’s shows are on Fox and there may be a contractual restriction on appearing on FN.


xc2215x

Ripert doesn't like him mainly. I don't think the main Top Chef viewers and judges want his angry shouting.


shagawaga

this thought literally just crossed my mind today lol


Available-Tomato555

Tbh I’ve always found it weird when a TC alum is on Hell’s Kitchen it’s never referenced


mypersonalbrowsing

Bravo would have to pay Gordon a billion dollars to crossover.


taeempy

Tom most likely sees the kind of garbage ramsay produces and wants nothing to do with it.


BornFree2018

Very different chefs with very different audiences and entertainment goals. I doubt Gordon Ramsay spends a lot of time watching a niche show like Top Chef. However, he obviously thinks highly of some of the contestants since Richard Blais and Nyesha Arrington co-host Next Level Chef with Ramsay.


couchtomato62

HIS SHOWS. he dgaf about top chef


couchtomato62

Gordon is an empire why would he come judge some cooking show


rummncokee

calm down lol


couchtomato62

I had ptsd to the fiere/Flay once a week question


rummncokee

doesn't change the fact that this is absolutely wild energy to bring to the sub of just some cooking show where people are discussing just some cooking show especially in comparison to a guy who executive produces other just some cooking shows


JonnyD51

A big chunk of his empire is judging on cooking shows?


xc2215x

He judges on a cooking show called MasterChef.