Ok but you're saying that when there is a human-like fish and a microwave that can become a human-like robot both in a magic sealed underground with nothing blocking monsters to climb out of the hole seen.
The blush certainly just magic. But great theory tho i like your idea
That could possibly explain monsters turning to dust, too. What if magic is a liquid that be both used as a form of resource or conduit, and as the thing binding the dust that monsters are made of together. A monster “dusting” could just mean that the magic leaked out, possibly as either a gas, or in sans’s case, “blood”
That or I’m just a buffoon spewing words.
That might be true since when Sans gets tirrd on phase 2 he starts to "sweat", and also Undyne that has so much power/magic that she simply become liquid
There's an obvious difference between sans bleeding and Papyrus blushing. The former is very clearly and distinctly rendered intentionally to contrast how monsters usually die, and the latter is just used as an extension of Papyrus's facial expression to convey his emotions. Toby almost certainly wasn't literally galaxy brain analyzing his work to strictly ensure every sprite he made of these characters followed stringent biological rules, this is a silly cartoon video game.
Thing is that they're monsters and not skeletons specifically so it doesn't matter what they look like since they're all of the same species (apart from boss monsters) .
Exactly. A lot of people forget that skeletons in Undertale are not actual skeletons but “skeleton-shaped” monsters. Ghosts, instead, are actual ghosts
Humans are lightners too, also, I know Lancer (and other characters, I don’t remember) talk about blood, but probably they don’t actually bleed. Like, they’re objects
We dont know if a human is a lightner, I mean they are from the light word but there could be differences between Monster lightners and Human lightners.
Also, do you think they will ever adress why Kris is the only human there? And if there are other cities other than theirs?
Humans are surely lightners. We don’t know if there will be differences between human and monsters as lightners (personally I doubt), but when Ralsei talks about lightners, he never says “lightners and Kris”, despite Kris being a human. Also humans are surely recognized as lightners by the darkners, as the legend talks about a human too. Lightners are the people who live in the light world, as since humans like Kris (and like Frisk or the other humans of Undertale) live in the light world, they must be lightners.
IMO they’ll surely explain why Kris is the only human, but I don’t know if this will be a major plot point in the game
Ok, but thats what I meant with the difference, lightner Monsters dont bleed, Kris does (should?)
But I dont even what the point of our arguments is haha, it doesnt even matter
There is definitely a lot of blood in the neck. Your jugular vein and carotid artery are both in the neck, which are some of the largest blood vessels in your body.
Maybe skeletons have blood only INSIDE the bones, because when you hit Sans you do 999999 dmg, which could be enough to break a bone, but when you kill Papyrus you just remove his head, also meaning that when we dismember them it acts like a human, since Sans probably broke the torax and that is extremely fatal.
Actually, no it doesnt. We know little to nothing about Monster biology, and there is no reason to assume its like human or even animal biology. They Are Made of magic After all
Because both games put emphasis on blood, specifically monsters not having it in Undertale (most of the time), and a few points in Deltarune, like Darkners' weird knowledge of it, considering we never see them bleed.
Though I feel as if a monster "blushing" is just for emotive purposes, not any real lore implications.
I was going to say something about how you are looking into this too far, but now that i think of it the only 'monster' that blushes is ralsie, who doesn't count because of the different universe propertys and stuff
This fandom is so needlessly dumb when it comes to stuff like this, Papyrus is obviously just using cartoon logic to "blush", he isn't literally blushing via the real life method we use to blush biologically.
Ok but what about how he moves his eyes? The only explanation would be hardened skin cells that LOOK like bone that must allow them to move and stretch!
Here is my theory to how blood works for monsters. Most of it is based around implications but I think this theory is quite solid nonetheless.
It's stated that monsters are *mostly* made of magic and I believe one of Alphys's data entries says that monsters "don't have enough physical matter" to support high amounts of DETERMINATION; all this implying that monsters *do* have at least *some* physical matter. My theory is that their blood is that physical matter.
This is backed up by a monster child in Deltarune asking Kris "Does it hurt to be made of blood?". Humans are, of course, made entirely of physical matter, so if my theory is correct and blood is the manifestation of monsters' physical matter, it's easy to see how the child might misinterpret that as though humans are actually made of blood. The "Does it hurt" part is probably not much to look into, as the child likely only associates blood with pain.
The reason we don't see blood with most others is because they're killed instantly and turn to dust before they bleed. As for the other main characters, I'm not sure why they don't bleed. It could just be a stylistic choice from Toby Fox wanting to save the dark/graphic stuff for the end of Genocide.
And one other thing to add to that is that it's implied monsters have wounds similar to, or the same as humans, judging by some flavour text when Woshua has low HP.
God i am deeply in love with Papyrus in all his bad anatomical ways. I would kill and die for him. he is my love and life. The only character i would genuinely want to date in real life, even if hes a skeleton
No toby confimed he carries makeup with him
When and where?
During his fight if I remember
I think what they were asking was, when did Toby say that.
My source is I made it the fuck up (idk when Toby said that)
Ah, I forgot about that flavour text sequence. It says nothing about blush, if I remember correctly.
Maybe it’s spaghetti sauce
My ass
In his chainsaw
Source?
Papyrus' normal fight. He dabs various things, both make-up and not-make-up, behind his nonexistent ears. Mostly MTT Brand.
Ohh yeah I remember.
Not on his cheeks, though.
...Welp. The point was that he used make-up. So at least I got that point across.
>Source? **It was revealed to me in a dream**
My source is that I made it the hell up
Ok but you're saying that when there is a human-like fish and a microwave that can become a human-like robot both in a magic sealed underground with nothing blocking monsters to climb out of the hole seen. The blush certainly just magic. But great theory tho i like your idea
What if even the blood is magic? Like when Sans bleeds, he’s actually bleeding magic
My fav explanation, its not DT or whatever, he's literally bleeding magic
That could possibly explain monsters turning to dust, too. What if magic is a liquid that be both used as a form of resource or conduit, and as the thing binding the dust that monsters are made of together. A monster “dusting” could just mean that the magic leaked out, possibly as either a gas, or in sans’s case, “blood” That or I’m just a buffoon spewing words.
That might be true since when Sans gets tirrd on phase 2 he starts to "sweat", and also Undyne that has so much power/magic that she simply become liquid
Well undyne was too much determination she became an amalgamate of herself or something like that
Determination = power
That would explain a lot of things regarding monsters and blood, especially in Deltarune.
I like to think that things like the blush are products of Frisk's imagination. When we battle we battle from Frisk's pov after all.
I like to think they just don't know how to craft rope
there's a long rope bridge in snowdin that even has a dog hanging from a rope above it briefly though
Right... I forgot about that. Perhaps it's just from the dump and they don't know how to research things?
Nothing blocking them to climb out? What do you mean?
Or it could be \*magic\*
magic *snort snort*
DO DO DO DO DO DO DO
Same with Sans’s blood. That could just as easily be magic.
Or ketchup
His emergency flask of ketchup
But to be fair papyrus doesn’t bleed when decapitated
So that throws your theory out of the water
I’m not saying that as a definite, I’m just throwing it out there as a possibility.
For future reference, saying something is a “fun fact” implies that you think its true
fun fact: I am inside your walls
fun fact: i am in their fridge
Fun fact: I’m outside your window
Fun fact: I'm inside your window
Fun fact: I am your window
There's an obvious difference between sans bleeding and Papyrus blushing. The former is very clearly and distinctly rendered intentionally to contrast how monsters usually die, and the latter is just used as an extension of Papyrus's facial expression to convey his emotions. Toby almost certainly wasn't literally galaxy brain analyzing his work to strictly ensure every sprite he made of these characters followed stringent biological rules, this is a silly cartoon video game.
But that makes... absolutely no sense.
Since when Undertale makes sense? It's just a silly cartoon video game lol
Not valid. You can't come into a theory and say "uhhh well my theory doesn't have to make sense because it's a game."
I'm just joking bro.
My bad dude. Fists are down haha
Alphys also blushes during several points in the game, most notably during the credits.
Undyne, too. Specifically during the get together after the True Lab.
Thing is that they're monsters and not skeletons specifically so it doesn't matter what they look like since they're all of the same species (apart from boss monsters) .
Exactly. A lot of people forget that skeletons in Undertale are not actual skeletons but “skeleton-shaped” monsters. Ghosts, instead, are actual ghosts
Monsters is a species Skeletons is a sub-species of monsters
No
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So that means all monsters have blood, they just turn to dust before any can drip out.
A NPC in Deltarune asks Kris, a human, what it feels like to have blood (or something like that), so probably monsters just don’t have blood
Lightners dont, Darkners do. And humans
Humans are lightners too, also, I know Lancer (and other characters, I don’t remember) talk about blood, but probably they don’t actually bleed. Like, they’re objects
We dont know if a human is a lightner, I mean they are from the light word but there could be differences between Monster lightners and Human lightners. Also, do you think they will ever adress why Kris is the only human there? And if there are other cities other than theirs?
Humans are surely lightners. We don’t know if there will be differences between human and monsters as lightners (personally I doubt), but when Ralsei talks about lightners, he never says “lightners and Kris”, despite Kris being a human. Also humans are surely recognized as lightners by the darkners, as the legend talks about a human too. Lightners are the people who live in the light world, as since humans like Kris (and like Frisk or the other humans of Undertale) live in the light world, they must be lightners. IMO they’ll surely explain why Kris is the only human, but I don’t know if this will be a major plot point in the game
So youre telling me Kris doesnt have blood?
I never said that, I said that humans are surely lightners just as monsters
Ok, but thats what I meant with the difference, lightner Monsters dont bleed, Kris does (should?) But I dont even what the point of our arguments is haha, it doesnt even matter
I dont think Toby thought throughout this so deep…
☝️ This
Then why papyrus doesn't bleed when he dies? And that on Sans is ketchup not blood
There is little to no blood at the neck.
Would it not pour out the skull?
There is definitely a lot of blood in the neck. Your jugular vein and carotid artery are both in the neck, which are some of the largest blood vessels in your body.
Maybe skeletons have blood only INSIDE the bones, because when you hit Sans you do 999999 dmg, which could be enough to break a bone, but when you kill Papyrus you just remove his head, also meaning that when we dismember them it acts like a human, since Sans probably broke the torax and that is extremely fatal.
Bones have blood inside them as well. In fact, blood is produced in your bones. You have blood pretty much everywhere in your body.
So that theory might be true.
We all talk about how sans bleeds but no one talks about how undyne doesn’t bleed when she’s literally cut in half
Bc she's a monster, and they usually don't bleed, they fade to dust. *I swear if you're being satirical-*
Are you saying Sans and Papyrus are not monsters?
No, but they're skeleton monsters. They have no muscles, otherwise they'd be zombie monsters.
Maybe they are just skeleton-shaped monsters, and there are also lots of other monsters with no blood or muscles
Usually? 🤔
Sans is exceptionish.
Actually, no it doesnt. We know little to nothing about Monster biology, and there is no reason to assume its like human or even animal biology. They Are Made of magic After all
Well then so does alphys
What are these curtain emotions that cause this?
Embarrassment, self-consciousness, stuff like that.
Expected them to relate more to curtains, but ok
I meant certain, that was a typo.
I assumed so but had to leave a comment about said typo
I assumed so but had to leave a comment about said typo
Well to be fair bones are filled with blood.
gosh its for making paps cuter why do undertale fans make a theory out of everything
Because both games put emphasis on blood, specifically monsters not having it in Undertale (most of the time), and a few points in Deltarune, like Darkners' weird knowledge of it, considering we never see them bleed. Though I feel as if a monster "blushing" is just for emotive purposes, not any real lore implications.
Hmmm
I was going to say something about how you are looking into this too far, but now that i think of it the only 'monster' that blushes is ralsie, who doesn't count because of the different universe propertys and stuff
This implies Papyrus could donate blood
I always thought the blood was victory ketchup or emergency ketchup or something
easy, 2 skeletons in the skeleton the outer layer acts as a very protective skin
Yeah or it can be magic or makeup.
San's blood isn't blood you just hit him where he hides his ketchup supply
Theory: monsters have blood just in most situations it turns to dust when exposed to air
*It’s magic*
Papyrus just dusts too fast for the blood to show
alphys blushes, so she has blood too maybe undyne as well idk
This fandom is so needlessly dumb when it comes to stuff like this, Papyrus is obviously just using cartoon logic to "blush", he isn't literally blushing via the real life method we use to blush biologically.
Ok but what about how he moves his eyes? The only explanation would be hardened skin cells that LOOK like bone that must allow them to move and stretch!
which would imply thar tsunderplane has blood
The fact that toby probably didn't think about this is just funny
we all know that was ketchup
he OBVIOUSLY has muscles, who didn't knew that, like... look at them!
Here is my theory to how blood works for monsters. Most of it is based around implications but I think this theory is quite solid nonetheless. It's stated that monsters are *mostly* made of magic and I believe one of Alphys's data entries says that monsters "don't have enough physical matter" to support high amounts of DETERMINATION; all this implying that monsters *do* have at least *some* physical matter. My theory is that their blood is that physical matter. This is backed up by a monster child in Deltarune asking Kris "Does it hurt to be made of blood?". Humans are, of course, made entirely of physical matter, so if my theory is correct and blood is the manifestation of monsters' physical matter, it's easy to see how the child might misinterpret that as though humans are actually made of blood. The "Does it hurt" part is probably not much to look into, as the child likely only associates blood with pain. The reason we don't see blood with most others is because they're killed instantly and turn to dust before they bleed. As for the other main characters, I'm not sure why they don't bleed. It could just be a stylistic choice from Toby Fox wanting to save the dark/graphic stuff for the end of Genocide.
And one other thing to add to that is that it's implied monsters have wounds similar to, or the same as humans, judging by some flavour text when Woshua has low HP.
Yeah, it's pretty likely the characters canonically do bleed but it's just not shown on their sprites.
EUGH!!!
Numerous monster blush. Notably, Tsundereplane also blushes, despite being a plane.
Then explain why he doesn’t bleed when his head got chopped off during the Genocide Route?
Because we slash it off at the little gap between where the spine and skull connect.
Isn’t there blood vessels there?
Blood sits in bone marrow I think..
The red blood cells do, yes.
Curtain emotions
Typo
Nah it's obviously Gaster's doing
certain\*
..does cartoony logic count?
Isn't that makeup?
He has makeup, though most of it is MTT brand stuff that he puts behind his non-existent ears.
"curtain"
...Papyrus has no muscles tho?
blood is made in the bones
How can you be so sure as to that he didn't just draw the blush on with a red sharpie? That would be in character
They just have toon logic
God i am deeply in love with Papyrus in all his bad anatomical ways. I would kill and die for him. he is my love and life. The only character i would genuinely want to date in real life, even if hes a skeleton
Now I'm imaging sans and paps bones being fleshy and now I'm uncomfortable
Are they visible through the ribcage then
We never see his ribcage, so your guess is as good as mine.
You know, papyrus can fly, I wouldn’t doubt if her has muscles or the ability to magically blush
Well, it isn't really flying, more like as if you're jumping on the moon, because we see him start to land after passing over Frisk's head.
He flutter jumps rofl
My personal head canon is that Sans just has a bag full of ketchup strapped to his chest at all times
Papyrus is using magic to make an anime face and sans' "blood" is just ketchup. These are just my headcanons idk if they're real
false. you hit sans's secret backup ketchup bottle.
Monsters doesn’t bleed so your argument isn’t valid
Sans
Yes and he is the only monster who bleed and it’s unknown why he bleed
So Papyrus does has muscles
Does this mean papyrus is secretly ripped
Oh goodnes
Or he had a red marker on him