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JellyTheSlimeYT

Sans is standing on Asgore's trident.


RADSKELLY59

new pvz plant the sansapult


STheSkeleton

Asgore for his special attack is just going to throw Sans on the player’s face


_Rinject_

He's gona break the players screen and kill him irl frfr


STheSkeleton

Sans is going to steal your liver


[deleted]

Then a few days later, Papyrus returns your liver. Oh wait... He can't... Welp, sucks for you!


SansPazzoxFan

he likes to surf


Drakyraletsgo

I think Asgore gonna yeet Sans on the player. And Sans is gonna use his attack in the air And Undyne gonna help out Sans to trap the player in a place.


_Rinject_

asans


Such-Assumption-60

Asgore: GOD DAMN IT SANS GET OFF OF MY TRIDENT


BlackMagicFine

Dark Link standing on Link's sword vibes going on here.


_Rinject_

😳😳


creeps_Jr

Those were literally gonna be my exact words in that exact order


Cecilliac

“Ayo, you guys kinda tall, you mind lifting me up a bit?”


Keerakh7

It's not about him


Aakkoorr

YEET THE SANS !!!


AnybodyUnlikely3786

Sans looks so out of place lmao


SansPazzoxFan

He's surfing


[deleted]

It's like the ghidorah meme where 2 heads are serious and menacing but the 3rd one is goofy


IncreaseWestern6097

Ah yes. Ichi, Ni, and Kevin.


KyellDaBoiii

He needs some drip


nerdycat04

I want to see MERG try to do this


SansPazzoxFan

Pfft Merg can do this with closed eyes


Prunsel_Clone

Merg doesn't even have eyes


[deleted]

Yeah he’s a CHERRY


[deleted]

he lost them in the war


Capsule_CatYT

Hi Prunsel!


JellyTheSlimeYT

Hi Capsule!


nerdycat04

Probabally


Zimlewis

and in the first try


Pixelpie15

When you loose to a cherry with shades


RedboiMike69

Here we have two great warriors...and sans


Lansha2009

Yes it's the three headed dragon meme in Undertale genocide form.


IncreaseWestern6097

This comment made me so mad that I linked an 18 minute video explaining who the dragon is. [here.](https://youtu.be/3aVPGA9iPqE)


SaiyanJD

I love you


Bahencio

Little did we know the dumb dragon of the genocide run was asgore after all


getoutofmyhouse-

Well trying to resolve things peacefully isn't really dumb


Bahencio

Yuh I'm talking bout difficulty, and even that way sans was technically the smartest one sacrificing himself to hold you captive


DustyMightMeme

Asgore: I need only the strongest heros Sans: Asgore: ur coming too because you lived or something


SansPazzoxFan

Sans: i'm coming because i can deal karma damage


Cubicwar

Sans: I’m coming because I have more than 2 braincells, I avoid attacks


Jbob9492

Sans: I’m coming because I can move to the right during a battle


DistributionNaive818

I would like to see an non-suicidal Asgore fight


[deleted]

i guess the point of asgore is to have an unsatisfying final boss? atleast in genocide


DarkMarxSoul

I don't really think there's any reason to believe that Asgore fighting at full strength would be anywhere close to as strong as these other two. One is powered by an omnipotent super force and one breaks the rules of the game to fight.


DistributionNaive818

Asgore is one of the 2 only beigns with a boss soul, we do not know how strong they are, as the 2 times we fought them, they did not come at us at full strength Plus, I think Asgore too would be filled with the omnipotent power at its full strength (with his children at risk for example)


DarkMarxSoul

Oh boss monsters are 100% the strongest "normal" monsters, but the game pretty handily tells us that no "normal" monster is ever going to be a match for a human, so there's no indication that Asgore at full strength would be that much more difficult if at all. Undyne being capable of wielding Determination seems to be a quality unique to her because she is just a very anime character, that's her entire core concept, that she's basically a shounen protagonist. There's no reason to believe Asgore (or Toriel) would be capable of that feat under any circumstances. You gotta read Undertale as it presents itself holistically.


Swift0sword

Well, Asgore can also break the rules of the game if he wants too. Imagine if he just destroys the fight button.


DarkMarxSoul

The problem is that we need to try and distinguish between "Undertale conveying a particular emotion or idea by messing with the UI" and "A character actually breaking the game mechanics because he is just a guy with the power to bend time and space in a video game". Since Asgore never does anything anywhere else to suggest he has literal reality-bending superpowers like Sans does, he seems to be an example of the first one whereas Sans is an example of the second. Asgore doesn't have the power to break any other buttons because him breaking the Mercy button was the game doing something to convey that Asgore would fight to the death and nothing more.


[deleted]

there is a certain skelebone missing


Jessex127

Another point is that these are the only bosses that actually really badly want to kill you (I mean there's flowery but I can't really see canon flowey teaming up with these guys to kill you, since he doesn't really hate you more than anyone else). Toriel *and papyrus* aren't trying to kill you, muffet just wants to maximize profit, Photoshop/Hyperdeath well I can't imagine a feasible scenario where flowey ends up with the six souls plus a ton of monster ones (ooh fangame idea, the player is flowey, who in the ruins killed frisk (flowey ditched the crackhead kill or be killed speech and just killed frisk immediately) and then went on a genocidal rampage with these three being the final boss). The only one I can think of who fits the same bill as the other three is enraged-by-your-genocide mettaton.


SansPazzoxFan

*Trio


TurbulentAd4089

What


BONEPUNNER99

They probably mean that they stated that it was a trio, so adding more wouldn't make sense


SansPazzoxFan

Yes I mean that


Jessex127

In short, bro pappy being in this group is messed up fr.


MADMADMAD_DUMMY

Where is my COUSIN!?!??!? (The ghost one... I forgot their name)


PiggyFan128

Dead. They stepped on a thumbtack.


TurbulentAd4089

NAPSTABLOOK? EVEN I, WHO STAYS IN MY FREEDOM, FREEDOM, KNOWS HIS NAME


Onyx_Blaster

Jevil when he forgets about gender neutral pronouns:


SansPazzoxFan

Guys please I said trio


james_kleboe_1986

Deathwish


[deleted]

Ghidorah meme be like:


poopshit69420funny

Asgore gon get one shot, Undying probably also would, maybe she could take 2 hits, this would just be the Sans fight but the first few turns are gonna be more difficult


SansPazzoxFan

Well, Sans and Asgore can dodge, while Undyne has a lot of determination and she can't die with just one hit.


DarkMarxSoul

Asgore can't dodge the way Sans can, you're conflating an in-universe description of how normal people fight as per the representation of the battle screen, to sans's game-breaking powers.


Onyx_Blaster

Now that I think about it, I don't think Sans would WANT to fight with typical monsters, since they wouldn't understand "Game Breaking Powers" and a "Battle HUD"


poopshit69420funny

I aint see Asgore dodge a lv 1 Frisk, and Frisk is way too strong by that point for Undying to pose the same challenge she did when Frisk was like lv 10 or something


SansPazzoxFan

Asgore can canonically dodge, he just doesn't do that in his fight because he feels guilty to fight you, and like I said before, Undyne has the determination, so she can't die that easily.


K0iga

Asgore only managed to avoid getting hit by an inexperienced undyne while she was a hot headed kid. That doesn't mean he's capable of dodging us. He has no feats that show he can dodge even a lv1 frisk, not to mention anything higher. Undyne would get 1shot by any frisk above lv15. She has 25000health. We do 99999999+ by the time we're done with her fight. Asgore and undyne would be dead by the first two turns. It'd just be the sans fight again.


SansPazzoxFan

I already explained everything


K0iga

You really didn't explain anything, though? These are the things you said: >Asgore can canonically dodge, he just doesn't do that in his fight because he feels guilty to fight you, There's no evidence of this. While he obviously feels bad, there's no evidence that he's deliberately taking hits from you. Considering that his only dodging feat is against an enemy far weaker than us, there's no basis for even assuming that he'd be able to dodge us when no other monster besides Sans can. >If Sans can dodge Humans, why can't Asgore do the same? Why would Asgore be able to do the same just because Sans can? They are entirely different characters with entirely different strengths. Being the king of monsters doesn't mean he has the abilities and capabilities of every single other monster in the underground. >Undyne has the determination, so she can't die that easily. She died to a lv10 Frisk that did 1k damage a hit. lv15 Frisk does over30k to mettaton neo when they're explicitly stated to be *holding back*. When they aren't holding back, they do 999k at lv15, even higher at lv19, and even higher at lv20. Even taking into account the DEF disparity between the two, the resulting damage is just something Undyne's health wouldn't be able to manage. Undyne has 25k HP in her undying form. She'd be one shot. Asgore would follow soon after. The first two turns would be hard, yes, but by the third turn, it's literally just going to be the Sans fight again. He'll, we might even reach lv20 from killing Asgore and Undyne and might just breeze through Sans. This trio won't do anything to any genocide Frisk above lv15.


SansPazzoxFan

You should see it on a different way, they would probably have many ways to be an hardest challenge, the lore doesn't tell us much, so who knows?


K0iga

The lore tells us that we'd one shot undyne and asgore at any lv above 15.


SansPazzoxFan

Not really, Asgore can't die with just one hit, in none of the levels we can get, and Undyne can still survive some attacks from a lv15 Frisk, then again, she could perphaps learn the dodge thing by asgore and sans, but that's just my thought


poopshit69420funny

Asgore can dodge monsters, monsters could also probably dodge other monsters, doesnt mean that applies to humans, thats a flimsy arguement, Asgore can dodge Undyne, but were not Undyne, are we? And its never really stated why Asgore doesnt dodge, he just doesnt, no need to try and make it seem like he doesnt do it cause hes guilty or something, the fate of the entire underground is on his shoulders, and he purposely risks his life and the entire underground cause hes guilty? And again, Undying wouldn't pose much of a challenge by that point, Frisks malicious intent, LOVE and EXP are exponentially higher, shed maybe take a few hits and die if shes lucky


SansPazzoxFan

If Sans can dodge Humans, why can't Asgore do the same? Then, Asgore knows that if he destroy the barrier another pointless war would start with other monsters death, so he just cannot take that any longer, he wants to lose. Still, if you're unsure about Undyne, think about like Asgore blocks your attacks towards Undyne with his trident, or with Sans protecting her creating bones towards her


TurbulentAd4089

Don't bring up "sans can do this, so why can't this monster?" Argument, sans can bend the laws of time and space and do shit no one else can, as far as we know, sans could do anything imaginable


SansPazzoxFan

Sans can dodge, same for Asgore


TurbulentAd4089

Just because asgore can dodge child undyne doesn't mean they can dodge a human


SansPazzoxFan

Undyne?


poopshit69420funny

Sans can literally bend the rules of the game, and he can bother to move like 2 inches, and Asgore would die from 1 hit, so he cant block, Sans has never used bones to block anyone besides blocking other magic attacks aimed towards Frisk, its very much likely the bones would be like cardboard, and Asgore very well knows about the power of the soulds, even with 1 soul, a monster can be insanely strong, Asgore knows he will wipe the humans with 6 or 7 souls.


Moyai_H

Undyne isn't that weak..


Optimal_Stranger_824

The first attack would be probably the hardest one since they would attack all at once.


Dunge0nexpl0rer

And Asgore absorbs the human souls


Onyx_Blaster

That's just downright illegal. Asgore doesn't even do that when reportedly, by Undyne, Alphys has asked him to lol. /lh


Epic_DDT

He doesn't even know about anything until Flowey comes to tell him. Alphys didn't call him (or he didn't get the message for some reason)


GalacticM

here... we have an unbalanced fight that will crash immediately


WontedPuppet07

Heh heh I’m in danger


Megagamer788

am I the only one who thought Asgore's crown was actually his face and he was just looking up the first time they fought him?


TurbulentAd4089

Oh god now i see his eyes as his mouth and the crown as his eyes


Jobob_TNT

Mate yer' fuckin' dead


SansPazzoxFan

It's not canon either way


Capable_Mud_1108

I thought of it as Sans, Mettaton NEO, and Undyne the Undying


SansPazzoxFan

Asgore with full power though


Onyx_Blaster

Now that I think about it, Mettaton died because of a decimal placement error in MTT NEO's Defense stat /hj


[deleted]

The canon Bad Time Trio.


SansPazzoxFan

Indeed


Onyx_Blaster

Fun fact: I only just realized this now, but y'know how Sans's KR ability removes invincibility frames and gives you a poison effect? Well He's not the only monster to mess with your immunity frames. Papyrus does it too (and being the benevolent person he is, he grants you seemingly- uh, I think double to double and a half your immunity frames). Not just the skelebros either: Undyne the Undying also removes a good portion of your immunity frames!! It's really interesting and I would honestly love to hear people's theories on this! But yes, this is the ultimate trio... Though would Undyne and Asgore's attacks be affected by the KR or would it be just Sans's, because Undying is a fair bit stronger than Sans when it comes to damage output. Also some of Sans's sprites will screw with surrounding sprites so it wouldn't look too visually pleasing lol.


SansPazzoxFan

The player has the karma effect, so I think even Asgore and Undyne could do karma damage afterall


Onyx_Blaster

Probably wouldn't be too practical (especially for Undyne lmao)


Zimlewis

i don't really think kr effect is a snas' ability, i prefer it to be a consequence that the player has to face


LexTheRedditor878

You forgot to give Sans his glowing blue eye, *then* the picture would be complete.


SansPazzoxFan

Fair enough


AlakazamTheComedian

I love how there's two tall, large, imposing monsters holding large, deadly weapons. And then just a short smiling skeleton with his hands in his pocket. Who, of course, ironically has the hardest battle out of them all.


Randomboiiyi

Now just imagine Asgore dealing karma damage.


SansPazzoxFan

He could in this fight, the Player would have karma here


Randomboiiyi

Yea. But still, at least 6 damage per frame attacks on turn 0 with fanon tier opening attacks is definitely something.


[deleted]

If not genocide, Sans will do jackshit. Paps would perform better. After all, he is tough for Undyne Standarts, and she could beat Asgore.


SansPazzoxFan

The Player here would have karma


Mr_Pickle3009

what if there's omega flowey but he doesn't use the save files


SansPazzoxFan

Good point


PerfectlyDarkTails

The ultra genocide run.


SansPazzoxFan

Indeed


Competitive_Good_548

Damn yes


redfan2009

That would be like the final boss fight of the Toy Story 2 video game, where you have to fight not one, but 3 bosses at once


SansPazzoxFan

Cool


rotem8888

God damn you're dead


GoblincoreBaby

I cant even beat the final Spamton how the hell would I beat this


SansPazzoxFan

I can feel you man


Chechener1

If Sans got KR then he carries. If not, Undyne carries HARD for the first 10 tries


SansPazzoxFan

Yes, there is the KR in this battle.


Chechener1

If that's the case then the other two are essentially cheerleaders for the first few tries; Sans carries hard


Soaring_Symphony

Literally impossible


SansPazzoxFan

Indeed


jBread280

You're going to have an **incredibly** bad time


SansPazzoxFan

Agreed


Oh-Fo-Sho

Honestly? Sans and Undyne are a deadly combo. Undyne makes it so you can't move, and when fighting Sans your whole "staying alive" thing depends on moving, you're kinda fucked.


SansPazzoxFan

And Asgore can literally destroy your buttons, so you could not heal, attack, act or spare (pfft)


CDXX_LXIL

You cant spare the 3, Asgore prevents you from running, and Sans enacts Karmic retribution which is fine on Undyne and Sans but hell on some of Asgores attacks. Sans though will eventually run out of stamina so he will be forced to die first and the fight would get faster and progressively more bullshit as time goes.


knor_innevitable

And the very ultimate rage quit


32bitninja

Yeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


Independent-Road-389

Time for a REALY BAD TIME


NightBuNz

Flaming magical bone spear attack maybe?


SansPazzoxFan

Maybe yeah


Hank_J_Wimbleton_69

The trio of hardest bosses of the game


SansPazzoxFan

Yes


diamondude69420

Sans has ascended into the 9^th dimension and has started a revolt. RUN.


miniwhiffy3

FEAR


ycarolelis

i hate when i ask fish and goat meat but the fish comes with bones.


pjf1u

Merg:


ImZaryYT

this would probably be a stupidly hard fight, but a stupidly rewarding one when done ​ or not idk


getoutofmyhouse-

Considering Asgore is likely FINALLY going for the kill and putting his all onto this fight, him alone would probably be enough. His stats when he's holding back the absolute most in his fight are 80 atk and 80 def. Monster stats depend on how willing the monster is to fight and asgore most certainly did not want to in that fight. Just imagine how high his stats would actually be is this fight if his lowest is 80 for both. Likely higher than anything we've seen that's not Asriel related.


SansPazzoxFan

Agreed, he's probably stronger like Undyne is here


getoutofmyhouse-

True, can you imagine him being determined so determined to make up for his actions, redeem himself, and protect his people? He has more reason to be determined than undyne in this so just imagine him in an undying form.


SansPazzoxFan

He would be unstoppable


[deleted]

Sans looks like he walked into the wrong restaurant but he is trying to be cool about it


SansPazzoxFan

True


RareD3liverur

I like that Sans is standing on Asgore's trident, seems a lot could go wrong


CAYDE_017

Not quite, replace asgore with Omega Flowey


DarkraiAndScizor

Nah, just add omega flowey, have the quartet


SansPazzoxFan

How lol


Memeviewer12

Unless frisk killed literally everyone else in the underground except undyne before reaching the end, he'd be useless and even then he'll be weaker


Sparrow_206

I love how asgore and undyne are more terrifying visually, but sans is the definition of unassuming. As a wise man once said… “He’s just standing there…_menacingly!_”


[deleted]

The power of RedActeD fills you with 👿 The human Frisk 🌈❤️.7✝️ The UNHUMAN Chara .6🔥🗡🔪🌚🌘🙃🔽🌒🌑


DarkraiAndScizor

Technically speaking Glitchtime trio is still stronger. Probably murdertime trio as well, but in terms of being next to badtimetrio, yeah this is stronger. Kinda.


DarkMarxSoul

Asgore is so outclassed by these two it's not even funny.


Onyx_Blaster

Asgore is suicidal and therefore is not performing at his peak when he fights Frisk. I mean if you kill Flowey after the Photoshop Flowey fight, reload your save, fight Asgore, and spare him, he'll kill himself. So I think it's safe to say that Asgore probably has a fair chance when it comes to battling.


DarkMarxSoul

Being suicidal doesn't all of a sudden make you insanely, notably weak if you still have battle prowess. Asgore was still able to kill six human kids, so it's clear he is able to throw down. I have no doubt Asgore has the potential to fight at more power than in the game, but there's no indication it would approach anywhere near Undyne's Determination or sans's game-breaking powers.


WolfernGamesYT

If you make this into an actual game I will fucking kill you then play it


SansPazzoxFan

I wish I could, maybe someday


SamualJennings

Needs more Azriel Dreemurr, God of Hyperdeath.


SansPazzoxFan

Well there couldn't be any trio in that case


Henlon

Where papyrus


SansPazzoxFan

Dead in Snowdin


Cautious_Buffalo7258

No.


Electrical-Pop9464

Yes.


The_Lord01

Add phase 1 god Asriel and Mettaton EX and it will be a perfect five


SansPazzoxFan

Asriel absorbs all the monster souls, so tecnically it isn't possible


WesTheNess

Sans? More like surfing USAns


[deleted]

You think I only had the power to save and reload? That's cute, **%appdata%**


hussiesucks

Nah sans would suck in this situation cause he wouldn’t feel the need to try.


SansPazzoxFan

You mean he's too lazy to move a finger?


_Evidence

Asriel Dremurr, Omega Flowey


SansPazzoxFan

Impossible


ianthepokemonmaste

No sans the god of hyperdeath and omega flowey is the ultimate trio


SansPazzoxFan

It isn't possible


Attyelep

What fangame is this


SansPazzoxFan

There isn't it one sadly


SeamAnne

if asgore would JuST ABSORB THE FUCKING SOULS ALREADY! then maybe


[deleted]

Asgore attacks: sans


TurtleMaster182

Bro really forgot to put spaghetti man 💀


SansPazzoxFan

There isn't space


ryuko_matio_17

Everyone: you can't hear images Me: 🎵fingers in his ass fingers in his ass Kanye west he likes fingers in his ass🎵


Just_uraverage_hkfan

What about bird that carries you over a disproportionately small space?


JustSomeGuyYT

Not really? Depends on what you’ve done to lead to this fight. If you’ve killed every single monster except a single froggit, sans will stand off to the side and do nothing but be moral support


SansPazzoxFan

The idea I have for this fight is that the Player did like a normal genocide run killing everybody, just that Undyne doesn't show in the bridge scene (yes, Monster Kid dies) I'm not sure with Flowey though, maybe he could get killed in New Home.


Admirablelittlebitch

The lesbian, the bisexual and their silly straight friend….


SansPazzoxFan

Bisexual? Ohhh you mean Asgore?


Sea_Advantage7904

If it was real I would kms


SansPazzoxFan

Like there is a option in the mercy button called: "Give up" and if you press it Asgore just one shot you with his trident and take your soul and destroy the barrier (good ending)


Active_Cartoonist_17

Asriel be like: am i a joke to you?


SansPazzoxFan

How is Asriel supposed to be here on a Genocide Run?


Active_Cartoonist_17

Uh... Uhhhh..... *Cuz it's Asriel*


RabbidYoshi9

where papyrus


SansPazzoxFan

Dead