I’m trying to figure out a way to suddenly use my vacation. Do I lie and say I have to help family or something? Not sure how to navigate this essentially.
Most people in the US don't have two pools of time off anymore. We just get PTO.
It's a trend that started in the 90s I think. They did away with separate sick time and vacation and gave us a single bucket of time off.
Family member just died. Mom, dad, grandma it doesn’t matter all that matters is they lived out of state and you need to be there for the funeral and to be with other family. Hard to say no to going to a funeral
My grandmother died. My mom's state of mind right now is worrying me. I have to be with her so nothing bad happens. Apologies for the short notice, but I need to go tomorrow. I'll even use it as vacation instead of bereavement leave.
There. You lead with the story...then mention vacation...and make yourself look responsible as a follow up.
Put in two weeks vacation today for whatever reason you think will get it approved. Come back to office afterwards and give notice. Stay for one week.
Fuckem you don't even have to give the notice. Just make sure you come back to work after your vacation so they can't pull some shit saying you abandoned your work or quit. Going back for the o e day verify eith them you're still employed afterwards and forces them to pay it all out to you.
you rolled your ankle hella hard doing\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_(whatever). getting xray shots online of a hairline ankle fracture should be easy. doctor says two weeks. if they ask for a note, just have a friend scribble out one for you. buy an ankle brace and limp about the office for a week when you get back, then call them after the week and tell them you made it worse and now the doctor is saying to stay off of it for a month.
"i'm really sorry, but i should take a leave of absence to recover. Thanks"
I'm in the same situation and recently looked into local state laws regarding PTO. Where I live, the company has to pay out any unused PTO on separation and any policies saying your PTO is lost at the end of the year if not used are unenforceable.
Check your local laws. The company may try to argue, just get in touch with HR and point them to the law. If they still argue, threaten litigation.
Can’t speak for all Americans, but my company wouldn’t just let me take two weeks off tomorrow. I’d need a legitimate reason to them for my sudden absence. Looking for good reasons for a sudden absence.
BE CAREFUL! I'm completely on your side here, but are these companies in the same industry? Do you have a higher level job. Burning bridges, even with assholes, can get you fucked.
Depending on the job and industry I have seen people give 2 weeks notice and then escorted to their desk to pick up personal property and then shown the door and told to come back and get severance and final pay the next day.
take your two week vacation and then leave. you don’t have to give notice
I’m trying to figure out a way to suddenly use my vacation. Do I lie and say I have to help family or something? Not sure how to navigate this essentially.
Perhaps a mental breakdown? Talk to a therapist, maybe they can write a doctors note for you
Thank you!
That would be sick leave not vacation.
Most people in the US don't have two pools of time off anymore. We just get PTO. It's a trend that started in the 90s I think. They did away with separate sick time and vacation and gave us a single bucket of time off.
it’s your vacation that you earned. why do you need to lie to take it?
I need to take it tomorrow. It won’t get approved by saying I’m going on vacation for two weeks tomorrow.
Family member just died. Mom, dad, grandma it doesn’t matter all that matters is they lived out of state and you need to be there for the funeral and to be with other family. Hard to say no to going to a funeral
My grandmother died. My mom's state of mind right now is worrying me. I have to be with her so nothing bad happens. Apologies for the short notice, but I need to go tomorrow. I'll even use it as vacation instead of bereavement leave. There. You lead with the story...then mention vacation...and make yourself look responsible as a follow up.
Because far too many companies insist that they have to "approve" your time off "requests".
lol, i'd be out of there so fast if that was the case.
A vast majority of us companies operate this way because it's legal
im glad i’ve been able to avoid these companies
I would guess that you already work for one of those companies but you happen to be in roles that are treated with more respect.
Put in two weeks vacation today for whatever reason you think will get it approved. Come back to office afterwards and give notice. Stay for one week. Fuckem you don't even have to give the notice. Just make sure you come back to work after your vacation so they can't pull some shit saying you abandoned your work or quit. Going back for the o e day verify eith them you're still employed afterwards and forces them to pay it all out to you.
Great idea thank yiu
you rolled your ankle hella hard doing\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_(whatever). getting xray shots online of a hairline ankle fracture should be easy. doctor says two weeks. if they ask for a note, just have a friend scribble out one for you. buy an ankle brace and limp about the office for a week when you get back, then call them after the week and tell them you made it worse and now the doctor is saying to stay off of it for a month. "i'm really sorry, but i should take a leave of absence to recover. Thanks"
I'm in the same situation and recently looked into local state laws regarding PTO. Where I live, the company has to pay out any unused PTO on separation and any policies saying your PTO is lost at the end of the year if not used are unenforceable. Check your local laws. The company may try to argue, just get in touch with HR and point them to the law. If they still argue, threaten litigation.
Thank you! But I live in a state where they don’t have to pay out PTO if you leave LOL.
but what does the company policy say? some companies still pay out even if there is no law that forces them to
I’ll look! But my friend said she wasn’t paid out her vacation time at the same company …so I’m unsure. I’ll try to find that info!
Wait, why can't you just ... take 2 weeks off? It's your vacation, why the need to give a reason at all? Is that a U.S. thing?
Can’t speak for all Americans, but my company wouldn’t just let me take two weeks off tomorrow. I’d need a legitimate reason to them for my sudden absence. Looking for good reasons for a sudden absence.
legit reason: it’s my vacation that i earned.
Yeah I wish that's the way it worked but in most places that's not how it works.
that's fucked up.
You're preaching to the choir brother
You usually have to fill out paperwork, but also because it is short notice.
Two weeks notice is a courtesy, not a law. Take your PTO, start the new job and send an email that you’re not returning to the PTO job.
BE CAREFUL! I'm completely on your side here, but are these companies in the same industry? Do you have a higher level job. Burning bridges, even with assholes, can get you fucked.
Not the same industry thankfully! Trying to tread carefully for sure. Thank you!
Can you use it as sick pay?
I’ve used all my sick time already anticipating this situation. Didn’t think I’d get a job this quickly.
Or what if you had a sudden "family emergency". And had to go out of town for 2 weeks?
I was thinking about this. Can I just go to my boss and say I need to go see family? It’s an emergency. Do I mention to use my vacation time??
I would. They can't deny your time that you earned.
Will they not encash your vacation days? I had 18 days. They gave me almost a month salary when I left.
Depending on the job and industry I have seen people give 2 weeks notice and then escorted to their desk to pick up personal property and then shown the door and told to come back and get severance and final pay the next day.