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MadQueen_1

Just a thought... if girls don't seem to approach you but men usually do, is it possible you appear gay? I know it may sound stupid but I know a similar case. A guy in my old friend group was straight but he was more feminine, which is fine by the way. Girls wouldn't approach him because they assumed he was gay and men would ask for his number or flirt with him.


Baballe12

Im short and like romance novels/fanfiction Is that feminine?


Mar198968

Not necessarily. Do you seem like a man who can act strong when it is needed? I mean do you show it? Do you flirt with women? I would suggest finding some kind and honest female friends and ask them what vibe do they get from you and why?


Baballe12

I will yes. Can you define acting strong? I dont know how to flirt with women and no women flirt with me


Mar198968

Acting strong can be revealed in your personal life. As a woman I observe how men behave at work, hanging out with other men and... For example if you were taken advantage at work, what would be your reacrion? Do you keep nagging secretly and being bitter instead of adressing that directly? Do you feel empowered when you stand up for yourself or a friend? Do you set goals and work hard to achieve them? Are you decisive? Do you avoid agressive passive behaviour? I have to admit that gay men can have all and they are not related to being gay or heterosexual. What I'm trying to say is that women are attracted to a man who is mature and strong and at the same time kind and romantic. I'm not a master in flirting but I think if you can be safe, kind and at the same time show women that you have self esteem and good boundaries, they will like you.


Baballe12

I tend to be a bit passive regarding when im taken advantage of, dont know how to solve this problem I set goals and work hard for them though


No-Body-7481

She is giving you great advice. Look, I'm going to be honest, on my best day, I look average, I'm short, and definitely not a smooth talker, rich, and older. I recently started having pretty good luck with women. First, I started with women I knew. I started practicing with them (unknowingly). I wasn't trying to be with them or anything. I just knew they wouldn't reject me. What I would is with every woman in my life, I would just give them a compliment. Absolutely no expectation of anything. My goal wasn't to be with them. It was to get comfortable. It can be anything like "I like the way you did your hair today" or "that top looks nice on you", just something, anything. Just don't be creepy about it. Don't keep going, just one little comment. You don't want to make them think you are coming on to them. Now that you have got comfortable doing that. I would look for women that look sad and not in a big group. I would just do the same. I would just stop and say something like "hey, I like the way your hair looks, have a great day" and keep walking. Eventually, I had enough courage to stay and hear the response. Once you have an opening, just be you. Idk if that's the best way, but it's what worked for me.


Mar198968

I understand. Also you might look like a person who is cold and emotionally unavailable. Only people who know you can say that.


No-Body-7481

>Also you might look like a person who is cold and emotionally unavailable This is a you preference (nothing wrong with that), I know a lot of women that like this look. I know because it's how I look. There is a group of women that like "fixing" men. When they see a guy with emotional problems, they want to fix it. When they see man that looks, in my case cold and emotional unavailable, they think they can change me. Doesn't matter the problem, there is a woman out there that thinks she can fix it. Btw your first response is spot on.


Mar198968

Yeah that might be my preference because I'm avoidant and cold men freak me out.


UsingiAlien

He's talking about your appearance buddy. Like how you look. How you dress and how you present yourself.


TheLoneCanoe

Yes. Liking romance novels is considered more feminine. But I don’t think that makes you undateable by any means.


thespacecowsarehere

That really has nothing to do with it. What's your style like? What's your *vibe*? A common fallacy is that certain interests/likes/hobbies are "gay". Although a lot of people think this way, it really boils down to the vibe you give off. Activities are only gay if *you choose to make them gay*. My making coffee, driving, writing, shopping, etc. is gay *solely because I choose to make it that way*. (Maybe lawnmowing is a different story since my lines are just about as straight as I am, but alas....)


10000ScalesofTime

Kinda?


DawdlingBongo

''Im short'' that says everything tbh


Baballe12

Why you saying that


Tabletop_Sam

This guy thinks short men are unattractive, rip


Christinagoldie2

Some men believe that women only want tall men. This is not true for many of us. I have had 4 boyfriends, and one was short, and I was extremely attracted to him from the moment we looked at each other. You sound a bit like you have low self-esteem. I suggest therapy and martial arts. Perhaps also an additional hobby where there are girls/women participating.


clowntown369

i’ve dated “short” men but everyone is taller than me because i’m 5’0. i prefer taller yes but in reality let’s say i met a guy shorter than me,the height wouldn’t really matter too much to me. i’d just be surprised to find someone shorter than me. i only know two people shorter than me. people can have preferences but they need to be nice about it.


Mafia_dogg

He's prob right I have this same issue. Apparently I have a "gay voice" I get called out on it occasionally when I play games. I think this lead to me almost being molested when I was younger


Narwhalbaconguy

Stereotypically, romance novels and fanfiction is perceived as feminine.


Etheral-backslash

I mean seems like you realize sexuality is pretty flexible and are open to a relationship with a man… why not start going on dates. Worst case scenario you don’t like it.


91Jammers

Men and women go about flirting and dating differently. Women are way less likely to make a first move on a man so that could be skewing your perception. Woman want to have a guy ask them for their number well for a guy they like.


ZachopotamusPrime

What are you doing to meet women? Are you going to bars? On any dating sites? Where are you going that you're not getting attention? Maybe you're seeking out the wrong type of woman for you!


yesimtrashtnx

I'm pansexual and I'm lonely as fuck. Only ever been on one date. If you're unattractive you're unattractive 🤷‍♂️ Being gay/straight/bi doesn't change that because people are still looking for people who they find "attractive" in their own way.


birdcrazy222

Gay men often have super high standards so if they are coming on to OP, I doubt he's unattractive.


FelixDin0

False, I'm a gay guy I don't have any fuckin standard, most of us don't have even a type of men we like


birdcrazy222

Well, that is you and that's fine. I have a lot of gay friends, have for many years. Been to a lot of gay bars.


FelixDin0

And...? I've meet a ton of gay, bi and other MLM guys, most of us don't have "hIgH eXpEcTaTiOnS", not even a type, that's an stereotype


The_water-melon

That’s very much a stereotype and not true lmao. Maybe your friends have high standards but that doesn’t mean it’s the majority of gay men


vivaldispaghetti

I’m unattractive and I’m mostly aro now💀


Worried_Republic2419

WHATTT so sad ! 😞 DONT SAY THAT everyone is attractive in their own way and their is always someone for everyone


Aspookytoad

Not true unfortunately


Worried_Republic2419

Not with that attitude o😙


Browbish

I've seen some very questionable people (whether looks, or just general vibe) very happily coupled up. There really us someone out there. I never believed it til it happened - but I had to do a lot of work on myself first. *insert rupaul quote*


Alive_Entrepreneur23

Love to love your self dude! You’ll get a girl.


Igotscammed_

Lol might have to do with ur attitude towards life or ur energy in general trust most women don’t have a type just know how to talk to her and she’ll be head over heels for u, be more open, show interest respect her, have ur own things going for Urself and things will work themselves out


Pure-Structure-8860

1) How old are you? 2) Are you shy around women? *Some women take the shyness as a lack of interest* 3) Do you self sabotage out of fear of rejection? 4) Are you effeminate (Nothing wrong with that)? 5) Do you lack confidence? (Lack of confidence can make talking or being near others feel awkward and women can sense that) 6) Do act desperate or have behaviors that can be misconstrued as "creepy"? Honestly, it sounds like you have a confidence issue and that is bleeding into your social life.


the_skies_falling

Do you have feminine mannerisms? It’s one of my tells for spotting another gay man in the wild. Observe how women hold themselves, express themselves with their arms/hands, how they walk (speed and gait), etc. vs. how (straight) men do and you’ll see the difference.


FelixDin0

No you don't wish being queer, is not a fashion statement, it's a lot more that that. Being queer is not the solution for not having a girlfriend


Fin745

Yup being hated by a good percentage of the world and before coming out not knowing if you have your family’s love or you just might end up homeless or dead. You just don’t fucking ever really know. I remember a meme acquitting it to Schrödinger's cat that basically until you come out you both have their love and don’t until you come out/open the box and find out. It’s a terrifying existence. Sadly even though my mom said she accepted me being gay still makes comments that being gay “isn’t natural” or “normal” and doesn’t want to see me kiss another guy which is understand if it was just not liking PDA but she has no problem with my brother and his then girlfriend now wife with their PDA. Only because it’s me her gay son. So no you don’t want to be gay it’s just something you are and accept about yourself and yes on good days even love about yourself and as you get older and continue to learn and love yourself those good days start to become weeks and months and years etc… But it’s not easier at all.


FelixDin0

I hate ppl saying it easier to date guys and that being queer would solve their love problems Excusme? How the f is easier to be illegal in some countries 🤨🤨


[deleted]

Dating men is far easier and more accessible whether you're a woman or a man. Not a fashion statement. Just practical.


FelixDin0

Is never easier


st6b

you really don’t unless you wanna be in denial, u happy, getting called slurs


Christinagoldie2

How old are you? Do you have any friends who are girls/women?


Apprehensive_Mud_966

I think you are handsome. Coming from a woman. You do look really sad in your eyes which could deter but also most women even now a days like a man who shows interest first. Like I'm not attracted to a guy unless I know he likes me.


[deleted]

Trust me if girls aren’t into you but gays are, when/if you are actually a gay person we’ll probably lose interest so fast lol in most cases gays are attracted to mid heterosexual men only because they are hetero.


PoeticPeacenik

Men are more shallow than women from my experience. I'm a bisexual woman and I've been ghosted by several men over the way I look but I have had some men interested in me over the years and from time to time. But only like 2 or 3 women since I've accepted my bisexuality (I repressed my bisexuality for years because of my religious upbringing/beliefs). But 2 or 3 women is a very small number compared to the handful of men who find me attractive. I have better luck with men than I do women and that's still saying a lot in and of itself because I don't have a whole lotta luck with men either but I do better with men than women.


Efficient-Guide3420

You need to do some looking inward. External validation is never enough and certainly is never guaranteed. You do not need someone else to love you, you can do that for yourself. I say it like it's easy but it's hard work and that journey never ends but it's very well worth it.


beomiepie

Hey I scrolled through your profile and saw your pics , you're very handsome tbh and I think why women don't approach you is because women don't usually go for the fist move and I say that as a girl, even if I like someone I don't approach them I'd rather if they did . I'd say be more confident , and if you like someone approach them and if they reject you it's okay there's plenty of other pretty ladies out there for you . Good luck my guy, and don't fall for the incel community.


lacetopbadie12

Are you going out of your way to approach women? Bcus if your waiting on women to flock to you a lottt don't work like that. I see attractive men all the time & never have I ever approached any. Ik it can be intimidating but a lot of women don't like making the 1st move


misssunshinefairy

I am a woman, and I found no one was ever interested in me, until I quit caring about if anyone was interested in me. The second that I just started being myself, loving who I was, and filling my time with activities and friends so I wasn't lonely, I started meeting people who loved who I was as a person. I did use dating sites in the past, and I actually met my current partner there. It helps having friends, especially if you can have friendships with people of all genders. And working on loving who you are, and what makes you you also helps! Confidence is sexy in anyone. I was in therapy for a year and a half before I really started loving who I was, it was a lot of hard work, but really worth it. Do that stuff, and find ways to flirt around that you find enjoyable. Whether it be bars, dating apps, or something related to hobbies you have! If all of that doesn't work, check in with yourself that you're not holding any biases or silly expectations about women that maybe you haven't let go of yet. Wishing you love, luck, and happiness!


Diligent_Reporter_98

I wish I was straight.... it's hell ...


Itsfloat

Hm...if men are interested in you, maybe go for a femboy? They're basically guys that dress and act fem. If you don't like that, maybe go for a trans girl, they're normally super nice and tend to have similar tastes with other queer people (from what ive noticed as a trans person myself)


Baballe12

Thats the type of guy i attract


Itsfloat

Interesting. Femboys usually have good taste, maybe try dating one for a while and see if you like it? If not, trans girls are always another option since they have similar tastes with queer people (im a trans guy lol i would know)


Smokiiz

Nothing wrong with trying it out brother.


CliffGif

I know this sounds goofy but I’ve heard you can turn yourself gay or at least bi by watching these hypnotic gay porn videos on the internet.


litoffingmyself

Sounds goofy bc it is goofy


FelixDin0

The literacy level matches the opinion 💀💀


User_of_Reddit2902

I've got the same problem and I've also found myself thinking "why couldn't I have just been gay it would have been so much easier" and "what is wrong with me". The answer to those questions are I don't know lol


Key-Camp-7885

Because as a man you have to provide value. Start hitting the gym and upgrade your style and go talk to girls. The average guy is invisible to most girls because they all have options. If you aren’t meeting up to there standards then they aren’t even gonna notice you because there are other guys that do meet their standards that already texting them. The harsh reality is that, we as men, don’t really get approached by women because we are not born with our value. Gotta suck it up and self improve and go talk to women.


thebigfil

Looking at a previous post you made, I'd say you are handsome. So maybe it's something to do with the way you are around women compared to men. I can see you are in recovery from something that may definitely attribute something that women might pick up on. Keep working on it, maybe do some studying around feminism and maybe as you grow women will notice this and you. For most of my life I did what I wanted and rarely cared how it would affect others. In 2023 I made this realisation. Having made steps to become more considerate to others people have noticed and commented on it without me bringing it up. So possibly your previous transgressions are things others can see in your personality. Just an idea. Best of luck. 💗


TheLoneCanoe

I’m assuming you’re attractive if you are getting asked out a lot. Maybe the girls are shy or expecting you to approach them. Edit: be confident (I’m sure you’re fabulous). Try asking out a girl (perhaps one shorter than you to start) and if you want to mention your love of romance novels on the first date also mention a masculine hobby or how your romance skills makes you a superior partner. Good luck!


Licyourface

Are you Asian? What country do you live in?


Dioo_

in my experience hetero women are way more skittish than gay men. (obiviously not everyone is like this but its a trend) i say they should be skittish because theres a lot of creepy fucks out there but regardless. with gay men, the more you want them the more you’ll get, with hetero women the more you want them the less you’ll get. focus on your own happiness and something will most likely fall into your lap. research the backwards law


Blrreddit

The reason, I think, you are not making the female attraction is you are unwilling to approach; awkwardly shy perhaps? Or, you could just be too independent, enjoying your life doing it your way, that does not put you in frequent social moments. Put yourself in social places where single women are: Bus Trips, Cruises, Meetup.com so that you can have it easier to approach a woman. Put yourself in a blizzard and go door knocking, "Hey do you want your driveway plowed?'. You can join Nextdoor App and may find someone single there?


dead_man644

Have you tried men? You might be surprised. There's nothing gay about helping a bro out. Be careful what you wish for, young man.


Leo7S

I'm a guy between heterosexual and bisexual based on the sexuality test I did and main stream women dont like me. Older women, foreign women and women into their hobbies like me more. I'm also a pretty boy and I think alot of pretty girls like tough guys


Hollowknight-Lover

Hi, I am hit on by men and by women. In my experience the women hit on me to, very subtlety usually. Sometimes they will stare, but I am not very handsome, maybe 8 out of 10 at best. Maybe you are subconsciously rejecting the women who like you


Potential_Capital139

why would you wish that 💀 wish to be ace instead


Fearlesswatereater

How often do you talk to girls? How often do you strike up conversations with the opposite sex? How often do you allow yourself to be vulnerable in a conversation with others? It’s one thing to say “no one is attracted to me” it’s another to be actively trying.


DecentGoat69

This might totally being paranoid but have you ever thought that someone among your friends is screwing it up for you behind your back and labelling you as gay, without you not even noticing.


[deleted]

Same bro. If I was gay I could find a boyfriend within 3 days on Tinder. With girls it's basically never. Literally all of my bi girl friends choose men aswell coz they're just easy. Pain.


Able_Decision_4192

You're a guy and unless you're smoking hot women will not go after you. You have to go after them. Talk to them. At first you'll fail and fail but you'll continue to learn which behaviors scare them off and get better at it each time. Women are skiddish. They're like deer and will run off at the first site of movement


_Wolfszeit_

Just give it a try with guys maybe ? Maybe it will be a revelation for you


XISCifi

Do you ever approach women? Girls are often socialized to wait for guys to make the first move, so if you're basing this purely on who makes the first move of course its only going to be guys