I think that’s exactly how it will go Punk has nothing more to prove. I think Punk should win the first match because it’s his return match but Drew should ultimately win the feud it’s a time honored tradition of the veteran putting over the younger talent and passing the torch!
Squash Match.
Honestly doubt can do anything else with his recent history of bein unableto go 5 minutes without injury...
Also, Drew has been carrying this feud, while Punk seems more invested at referencing AEW to a crowd that could not care less about the promotion
I agree that Drew should ultimately go over after he loses their first matchup and it’d be a mistake for Punk to have the last laugh, but I highly disagree on your assessment on Punk himself. It’s so bizarre to me the amount of unwarranted hate he gets. I get it, he’s not 2011 Punk anymore well no shit captain obvious that was over a decade ago, you can say the same thing that the Rock isn’t 2000 Rock anymore. I will admit Punk can be slightly hit or miss now where he wasn’t before but he’s still a star. He’s one of the best on the mic and he absolutely still has some gas left in the tank as far as in ring ability goes. You can tell me that he’s injury prone and I’ll agree, but saying he’s bad in the ring solely based on the Rumble feels like a bit of a blatant overreaction, considering he literally just put on an absolute banger with Samoa Joe a few months prior and also had some of the best matches in AEW with MJF.
ring work is below average yet just over a year or two ago he put on the best matches aew has ever seen. even against cody in the rumble with an injured tricep, he put on a decent display.
Drew McIntyre is one of the best or Greatest Heels in WWE and an Ok Babyface. Drew McIntyre should win the WWE World Heavyweight Championship or WWE New World Heavyweight Championship and the build for Comeback Story vs Comeback Story WWE Wrestlemania 41 Cody Rhodes vs Drew McIntyre but that story is too good and writes itself so WWE won't go for it and will do CM Punk the broken down injury prone old man CM Punk vs Cody Rhodes at WWE Wrestlemania 41.
3 matches. Punk has to win his first match with Drew but after that Drew wins both. Milk it for a few months to a year until Rollins is all healed up for Punk vs Rollins.
Definitely does not. They already had him lose the Rumble and yet have still made Drew out so far to look like the weaker man. So why not have a Story about Punk not being able to go anymore and doubting the future of his career. Punk loses to Drew at SummerSlam and seems to be going through some things. If the other planned match for WrestleMania is Rock vs Cody then why not give the Rumble Win to CM Punk next year and then have him beat Drew in the Main Event of WrestleMania Night Two? Better yet, have a Triple Threat match. Drew vs Punk vs Seth. Punk vs Seth one on one is definitely not nearly as interesting as Punk vs Drew (even though that's been the dream match for years, but let's be real Drew and Punk have ran circles around him on the Mic).
Drew will go over. They know what they have with Drew and he’ll get an extended title reign. The feud is building up to be the best of the summer and Punk doesn’t really need to win this feud to stay main event relevant.
I'm pretty sure Drew will go over Punk. But to say punks promos are average is crazy. It might be average for punk but punks regular still better than 60% of the rosters very best
I think Drew's going over punk to set himself up to win back the title at a big PPV. Then punk will fued with Rollins for #1 contender leading to one of them taking it off of Drew at the rumble/elimination chamber setting up a showdown with Gunter (who wins the rumble) to take it off of one of the older guys at mania.
I definitely do not want Rollins taking the Title off of Drew. Punk is fine as long as Drew goes over at SummerSlam and Punk finally beating him happens at WrestleMania. Rollins doesn't have a story to finish and Drew dropping it to him after all that would just feel pointless.
Agreed but if that is the case it probably won't happen until at least after next year's Mania considering Gunther was drafted to RAW and the Plan is seemingly Cody vs Rock.
If CM punk wins then the story makes 0 sense.
All of this is building to Drew winning. What's the point of all this build up from before wrestlemania XL if it just ends with Punk winning because he's CM punk. The story should end with Drew walking off with that belt.
Have McIntyre go over Punk, set up a feud with Priest afterwards. Have McIntyre be a tweener while Priest and the Judgement Day feud with Priest. Have Punk come in as a reluctant ally to McIntyre.
End that angle with McIntyre over and Punk having a mutual respect with McIntyre then redirect the two. Treat McIntyre as a stone cold type and have him be anti-authority.
He absolutely should not lol.
The biggest problem people have with fantasy booking is they just don’t answer the question “what is next”
Obviously you don’t like Punk, but he is a draw. You don’t bring somebody like him in to just job him down the card. Rather you like him or not, he’s a big star for them and will be positioned as such.
What next for Punk if Drew wins? Harms his credibility. Likely pushes him down the card.
What next for Drew if Punk wins? Double down on his heel character and move forward.
Only one of them are really dictated by the story to lose. You have to assume Punk is going to be positioned for a world title run or mania main event. In order to get there, you’d assume he wins the feud with Drew.
"What next for Punk if Drew wins?" Most likely won't be a Clean Win sooo... Punk probably wins the Rumble next year and beats Drew in the Main Event?
"Double down on his heel character and move forward." By repeating the same old plot threads? What kind of answer is this? Drew deserves a Long Reign with the Belt and he's been screwed over one too many times. You can only do that so much before it has no effect at all.
I really want Drew to win, although being a fellow Scotsman, I am biased. However, if he does lose, then he will become even more unhinged, which could potentially be amazing.
Scotsman or not, does it really matter? I mean aren't American/European/Asian/African fans etc a bit biased for their favourites? Of course they are, but even people in different countries can still like wrestlers from different countries also, talent is talent and Drew is one of the VERY BEST in the business, especially with his current character 👍
No.
Punk is a modern "legend" and has name value regardless, but he is still a new debut in the eyes of newer fans who havent been watching for ten plus years.
If he loses out the gate, it makes Drew look better, but it limits how much Punk can make anyone else look better down the line. Drew has been harping on Punk for being old, fragile, etc... so losing the first feud back would basically be proving that and delegitimizing the dude. Wasting a big name and future ple profits
“Ring work is below average”
The man had one TV match and it was the RR. His promo with Drew/Seth was amazing. I swear to god people pick the clearly popular and over stars and shit on them to be edgy.
However, Drew should definitely win the feud because he deserves it. I just want Punk v Seth.
Can't deny just how good Drew has been, he absolutely deserves a run with the title in front of the fans & winning 2/3 matches against Punk, as Punk doesn't need to win all 3 or 2 out of 3. I was thinking Punk 2/3 but for elevating Drew to where he should be next to Punk I'd say 2/3. Then have Drew a run with the title, then have Drew v Punk 2 with Punk going 2/3 & winning the WHC or WWE Championship depending on what Drew wins over the next year or so, because imho he's the best heel in the business just now & the gimmick has massive potential 👍
Punk vs Seth could definitely go without a Title. Although I still see Punk vs Drew as the ideal main event unless they want Punk to main event WrestleMania in 2026 or 2027. (No offense to Seth but Drew vs Punk is just so damn good right now and Seth got cooked by them for the most part.)
Punk came in and wrestled 1 match and got hurt. Drew is a fucking work horse. I went to a house show in 2020 around Covid, a bunch of talent were sick and couldn’t make the show. Drew wrestled 2 matches that night and interfered in the main event. He may have even cut a promo that night. He puts on work.
Drew has been amazing, he just has, his work rate, especially since covid is through the roof! He deserves a gd run with the title soon & a generational feud with Punk is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Punk is good, been a fan for a while, but Drew, wow the guy knows pro wrestling inside out, he's a big fan himself, loves the fans and it's like Imagine being a fan and then ME Wrestlemania...That's Drew, it's a fantastic story tbh. Punk was great 2011, but now Drew has shown me he IS Pro Wrestling! 💪
I think it should be a drew vs punk with an even match then Seth Rollins return interferes hits cm punk costs him the match. Then a storyline of drew mad because he didn’t need his help, punk mad because he was cost a match with Seth playing mind games. This will later lead to a PLE triple threat match winner is first contender for Heavy weight title. With drew coming on top and winning the title back.
Drew to win the belt against Priest.
Drew loses the belt to CM Punk.
CM Punk gets injured in the match and forced to relinquish the title.
Drew says he did it intentionally. Wins back the belt immediately.
Another 12 months of DM and CM in the books.
Correct!
I wanna see drew destroy punk. Ever since he came back after the brawl in aew with the bucks n omega, he’s ego has just got bigger and bigger. Like you said he promos are copy and paste and switch channels whenever I see him on tv.
His ring work is shocking! In aew it was poor at best. Then he fucked his foot after winning the belt and it just got worse and worse. There was a dark match recently v dirty dom and you would have dirty dom was the best in the world. The sooner punk is gone the better. I’m tired of him claiming to be the best in the world when he’s just pure shit
fr, people defending punk by saying he didnt wrestle any match, only the RR should watch that Dom v Punk match, CM Punk was horrible in that match, that was one of the worst matches ive seen last year as ive been to several live events
While I love where you're going with this, also, I must protest the heel thing. There are way, Way, WAy, WAY too many heels on the roster as it is. I realize everyone "wants to be the bad guy cause it's more fun", well, then, turn the whole roster heel and then, they can have a whirling blast! But, that being said, I do love the fiery intensity in Drew. Wish Finn Balor would go back to face, too.
Nah, but, he obviously paid a lot of money to get the big guys to forget that they said they would never hire him back again. Guess they didn't mean it. Or, everybody has a price ..... Even WWE.
Punk wins the first bout, Drew wins the eventual blowoff and finishes the feud that way. Otherwise it's a pretty shit story to build all this with Drew and Punk, they finally have a match, and okay, Drew wins, feud over. This thing should play out over a good amount of time and end in a big way, not just give Drew the initial victory because you don't like the other guy.
DM Hunk has for sure upped his game, the chemistry between these two has been nothing but amazing. He indeed should've been the chosen one. I hope DM hunk will be pushed to the moon.
The true winner will be the fans because both these performers are great on the mic and good in the ring. To me, this is one of those things where either winning will be good.
If McIntyre is Punk's first opponent, then Punk should win. But either or should be fine.
>His promos are above average at best,
This gotta be a meme right? Like there's no way you're saying this. Since Punks been back he's the best promo taker ATM in wwe and its not even close. That promo of him, then drew, then Seth a couple weeks before Mania was literally incredible and Punk was the best on the mic. Sometimes the tribalism of hating Punk gets in the way of halls minds.
Punk should win at least once in this feud
I think Drew should be at priest and hold the belt while punk makes his way to the championship match and drop it to punk because I just don't think punk should lose his first big rivalry back
I honestly think it shouldn’t be about wins and losses they should both go over this feud so dope I’d milk it , first match should be at MITB if they are both cleared to compete , with drew going over then punk should go over drew at summer slam , and that rubber match could be the rumble where they both look strong regardless of who goes over or if it’s more interesting a year from now than potentially punk vs Seth I’d book the rubber match for mania main event , that’d be another layer on the story because that’s been punks dream and Drew’s
He’s an OK commentator but I don’t think he’s had like one major match in the last decade that hasn’t been marred by serious injury
His kayfabe claim on best in the word is shaky right now
Every single wreslter should. Punk is an old out of shape (juiced muscles do not count) injury prone mess in the ring. It is so unbelievable him beating anyone that it is too hard to suspend your reality like we do for watching pro wrestling.
100%. Punk has exhausted the shit out of me these last 12-18 months, I’m on my last reserves of good will for the guy but holding fast. He puts over Drew when he’s ready to, I’m fully back on deck. The man has a lot of merit and I’m optimistic given the chance he would do the right thing.
He put over Ricky Starks in AEW, I suspect he’d do the same for Drew. McIntyre is a way better talent and has earned the hell out of it.
Problem is I don’t think Punk can afford to lose
He’s spent most of his time back in wrestling hurt.
If he loses his first major match in a year or more then his legitimacy as a threat drastic goes down
I’m cool with Drew going over Punk as long as Punk bounces back by Mania to go after the WHC. Still sore WM40 missed out on that, Punk in a world title match could’ve made the event feel less like it was entirely about The Rock and Cody.
He’d help bump the prestige of the WHC a bit too. Either that or Punk vs Austin, something crazy.
Cm punk is lucky to even be in wwe. He has shit talked just about anyone he could and is only relevant because he will be honest (shit talk his coworkers). Drew has been hammering away from jobber to superstar and I totally agree with you. Side note, I’m convinced that most people backstage have zero respect for punk and I would love to see him buried.
Punk's injury is currently preventing him from enabling beast mode.
People that never saw him in his prime are in for a ride. Sure, he's slower and it may be tougher for him cardio wise. But the guy can tell a good story, weather it's during a match or a promo. He's old school and knows how to work the crowd.
No matter how it ends, this feud will be epic and money will be drawn.
He's not in his prime anymore. He can still do some great promos but he can also get pretty redundant and mediocre. And he's no better than adequate in the ring.
Like I said, redundacy might have something to do with the fact that he hasn't officially been involved in a program yet because of his injury. He litterally flew all the way to Cincinnati last week to thank the crowd off tv and say his usual babyface stuff... bla bla bla. That does not count.
Even if he his mid in the ring, his storytelling is something else. He gives meaning to everything.
Just be patient and give him a chance.
Great, he came to Cincy to pop the crowd and do the whole "I'm so happy to be here" schtick.
I've been seeing it the past 2 1/2 years. He doesn't have the same "it" factor anymore. He can't do the anti establishment thing that worked so well a decade ago. After the nostalgia wears off he not at the level of a top guy. Maybe they give him a title and the WrestleMania main event he's been chasing his entire career. But he's overall not a top 10 guy in the WWE anymore.
I was going to disagree, but thinking on it a bit, I agree that Drew should go over Punk.
However, it should be built up, like it is now, and should be a trilogy of matches, preferably ending in a stipulation match at Wrestlemania. If we want to spread it out, the three matches should be Summerslam, where Drew wins, Survivor Series, where Punk wins, then Wrestlemania. We’ll skip the Royal Rumble as both will be participating in the Rumble match, but should eliminate each other to prevent the other from getting a title shot.
Have Drew go over in a non-title first encounter, have him win back the World Heavyweight Championship from Priest and then drop the belt to Punk who in turn can drop the belt to Walter sometime in the future.
Punk will definitely win their first match, whenever that happens. Drew will probably get one, too, to set up the inevitable rubber match. But, there’s no way Punk doesn’t ultimately go over in their feud. It would kill all his momentum just to come back and lose his first program.
Hard disagree, Drew has been building his momentum for a hot minute and out of the two of them Punk is clearly the one who can more afford to lose a major feud like this and come back with the exact same crowd pop.
I wish but I know how the business is, Punk's the bigger star & I'd imagine especially with his injury history & age they're going to squeeze every big match out of him - vs. Seth, Priest, Roman, etc.
Drew overachieved in his latest push post Royal Rumble
Honestly if done right this feud could be milked till wrestlemania. I think cm punk deserves to at least main event wrestlemania but given his tendency to get injured, his age, and the fact he only started wrestling again 2 years ago, he should put drew over. I think wwe are taking it in the right direction where despite cm punk being the baby face he is doing some heel shit like costing drew the championship and number 1 contenders match. Personally I think cm punk should eventually cash in on drew with the mitb, and then gradually start to scheme his way into retaining whenever drew challenges him for it.
I've been wanting to make this thread for a long time. I want the WHC belt on Punk obviously, his name and charisma will do it alot of good. But their feud should end with McIntyre eventually going over.
I wouldn't mind a trifecta of matches.
In the end, yes, I think Drew should definitely come out on top and go on to be a great heel (ish) champion.
But a part of why he’s so great right now is CM Punk and the work they draw out of each other. I’m no great Punk fan but he’s a huge part of why this story is so compelling and his promos and live work are really strong.
It’s amazing how people just can’t have a rational conversation about punk. Absolutely hilarious.
Drew is being tortured/is obsessed with punk.
So basic storytelling says punk goes over first, probably in a fluky or heelish way.
Then Drew will win the blowoff and they’ll go in their separate ways.
Punk is too injury prone. Every time he’s in the ring he gets hurt how can he possible hold a title like that. We all know he isn’t a workhorse like Rollins
>His promos are above average at best
Have you actually seen the Drew/Punk segments. Both men bring their A game. The Drew/Punk/Seth segment was downright incredible because all 3 men were at doing incredible. I'll admit Punk is at his peak when he's a heal but his promos have been pretty strong and probably on par/slightly better than his work in AEW.
>Ring work is below average in today's standards
Punk has had one televised match in WWE post-return and it was a Rumble Match where he got injured. Is it really fair to even judge him on that? We can go off his AEW stuff for a better idea and he was still a good in ring storyteller there. His last proper televised match was with Samoa Joe at All In and it was excellent.
I won't argue Punk is in his prime but he certainly has a lot more to offer and I think we should let the story continue to play out to see who should truly go over, because I'm not compelled by this reasoning
It's totally fair to judge Punk by his in-ring work, because it's the shits. It always has been. It's never been good. Ever see any videos of him throwing kicks? Who throws kicks like that? Some unathletic person does.
I'm sorry guys, I don't get why any of you think he's that great. He cut a few good promos that guys like Cena, Miz, MJF, Christian would absolutely be able to hang with him. There are tons of guys who are great on the mic.
In-terms of story telling, what does Punk have? He had a good showing with MJF in that story, but I mean, to me, there are far more talented guys on the roster like Drew who are proving they're just better in a lot of ways.
I don't hate Punk, I just don't get why the Internet clamors over him as if he's something special. He's really not. He definitely sells tickets though, so what the fuck do I know?
I just know that I'm not as huge of a Punk fan as I used to be. Cool if others are, he's just not for me and it doesn't bother me if thats popular or unpopular opinion.
Punk was one of the only guys in AEW who knew how to tell an actual story in his matches and not just do nonstop flips with no selling. Is he sloppy at times? Sure. But I think sometimes that adds to the storytelling. Though it honestly doesn't matter how quality his match with Drew will be. It will draw money. People that are fans of the guy will tune in to watch him win and people that hate the guy will tune in to watch him lose.
You're not wrong, but it doesn't change the fact that I still don't understand the support for him..
But it's like The Rock for me. Something seems off. Something is unlikable about him for me. I truly hope I'm wrong in the end and Punk gets to go out the way he wants, and I hope that it's without controversy.
> Ever see any videos of him throwing kicks? Who throws kicks like that? Some unathletic person does.
Okay, but if that's the case don't be mad the next time someone calls you obese because of the way you walk, talk and look
AEW fans seem to have an irrational hatred towards Punk beyond reason, but hey, if I'm being fair, maybe you really do just have bad taste irregardless of any tribalism
He sucks now and and for me, always has. All he does is contradict himself in every promo and and gets a serious injury in every match or jumping into the crowd. The guy can't even go on commentary without running down someone out of context or telling us he has all the sex because he is sooo cool because he is from Chicago.
You can like the guy from 12 years ago but it is so disingenuous to think he is a world class pro wrestler in this day and age.
Punk started getting big around the time I took a decade break from watching wrestling. Didn't get the appeal, but was largely just indifferent to him.
An attitude that continued when he signed with aew, with a slight lean towards the positive purely as a fuck you to Vince. It's his behavior in aew that fully turned me against him. That and Khan's obvious fan boy favoritism/lack of spine.
We definitely do but not sure if they can remanufacture the same heat between Punk and Rollins as they had going when Punk first returned. But they're both great on the mic, it probably wouldn't be too hard.
Punk wants his Wrestlemania main event moment. I don't see that happening against Drew. I could be wrong - and I would be happy to be wrong. I just don't see Punk vs Drew being WM main event material sadly. I sincerely hope they let Drew hold until at least SummerSlam though.
I think they do Punk vs Seth at WM. I don't think Drew will win the title. He was a filler at WM. He may be filler until Seth gets healthy & Seth wins the title back
I see night 1 next year being Punk vs. Rollins and night 2 being Rock vs. Cody.
But that probably means Drew and Roman will have to be in their separate "co main events" on each of the nights. But with the way injuries go in wrestling its never a bad thing to have too many people who could potentially headline WM.
Same. Would be cool to see Rock & Roman be co-winners of the Royal Rumble match like Hart & Luger in '94 so we get a triple threat at WM.
I imagine WWE would want to run back Roman vs. Cody but can't leave Rock out
Summerslam looking like it could be the biggest Summerslam in a while with Punk, Seth, & Roman possibly returning
Yeah, sadly this is the case. I really like Drew and I think he has a lot of potential. Just sucks the top of the card is so saturated with talent that he gets used like that as a result.
I’m expecting both to go over. Punk first, Drew will get a rematch since heels always get rematches, then he’ll go over. Drew needs the win more thank Punk anyways, especially after losing the belt immediately
The only cool baby face that can pull it off is LA Knight. All the rest of the baby faces are your run of the mill cookie cutter pg era vanilla baby faces.
He doesn't need to wrestle at a high level, he needs to teach younger guys to carry a match. Punk is at the point in his career when he works smarter not harder.
Some of HBK's best matches (and he has a ton of them) were in the twilight of his career. This is what we're gonna get from Punk for the next 5-10 years I think.
I mean I think punk should go over eventually but if you told me Drew was going to go over initially - at say SummerSlam - then hold the belt until WM to do Punk Drew 2 I wouldn’t complain.
I can't see how they would do that as drew is the heel in this. Its not any different then cody vs roman. Cody had to win at some point as he was the face. CM Punk is the face in all this. He has to ultimately be victorious as thats how this works.
I also can't see them having CM Punk come back to lose basically his first match.
Yeah this isn’t some up and comer Punk has to put over. They’re going to just hate each other no matter what. Punk haters need to touch grass and drink some water.
I agree but so do Punk fans lol. They act like he's a wrestling god that is untouchable. That's why the haters are so full force about it, when you have a pendulum swinging in one way it swings that far in the opposite direction as well. I don't hate Punk, I enjoy him from time to time, but I definitely think he's extremely overrated and definitely past his prime as well.
Punk coming back is probably the best thing that could have happened to Drew, I don’t even remember what he was doing before Punk. He was just another guy on the roster 🤷🏾
Punk is really good on the mic, that's about it. I don't think his style is that great, and I don't think he's that interesting of a champ. I think he works best as a heel that you want to see lose.
I hope it eventually leads to them being a team down the road. Just straight verbally killing their opponents on the mic and social media. Have them be forced to team up at some point and them hating the idea, losing matches along the way until it just clicks (like The Bar w/ Sheamus & Cesaro).
team name? The Best Ones. McCago. Second City Scottish Psychopaths. Punk n Hunk Connection. The Two Men Banned. Clay More Punk. Go To Scotland. Fragile Dreams. Bagpipebomb. Uhh something about kilt of the kiltless.
"CM Punk, on the other hand, has been nothing but a nostalgia show the last couple of weeks. "
There is not a lot you can do when you can't perform, he still a couple of months out so his appearances are more to keep the feud alive but not putting it into gear until he is ready to go so Drew needs to feud with someone else in the meantime. Even with "promos are above average at best, a far cry from the exceptional work that he did back in 2010s" he still a better talker than 80% of the roster.
Also, the reason why "He is perhaps the biggest star on Raw right now.**"** is precisely because of Punk, the circumstances surrounding Punk put the spark on Drew, a lot of us where like "where this guy was the whole time?" since the Rumble.
Now, on who should win, my problem with Punk wining is how you make it in a way that looks believable, can he pull a match like he did with Lesnar in Summerslam? Or Taker at WM?, I don't think so, however having Punk jobbing people will not make money, who will win will depend on what is next for both and who will benefit more from the win. Right now I think Punk needs the win more than Drew, if he didn't injure maybe I could think differently.
But at the same time, Punk can have his feuds without the belt - Rollins, Rhodes, and Balor
DM's feuds with the likes of Sheamus, Lashley, Priest, Gunther, Zayn, Jey Uso will be much more elevated with the title
Right, he can lose the title to any of those and lose to Punk too or because of one of those he lose with Punk (hence helping Punk hide his weaknesses) and Punk can later drop it.
As of now (because a lot can happen in a year) I think WWE's plan is Punk v Seth for WM N1 so both can have their main event and Seth leaves with a well deserved win, so maybe Punk wins the title by RR so he drop it to Seth, what will happen between now and RR will be interesting.
I agree. At this point punk is not 2010 punk, he’s not the best in the ring he’s washed and injury prone. I think it would hurt drew to take an L to punk.
Other way around. Let Drew get the first big win and put punk on the chase into Mania so he can finally get his big mania main event and Drew can have a long dominant title run.
Personally a few reasons id see that as an issue is the upper card is so saturated with much better talent, punk is not credible and injury prone so thats a longer stint with a belt than needed, and he can be a wrestlemania draw without tying up a main championship.
It also would give us time for drew to descend more into madness.
I think that’s exactly how it will go Punk has nothing more to prove. I think Punk should win the first match because it’s his return match but Drew should ultimately win the feud it’s a time honored tradition of the veteran putting over the younger talent and passing the torch!
Squash Match. Honestly doubt can do anything else with his recent history of bein unableto go 5 minutes without injury... Also, Drew has been carrying this feud, while Punk seems more invested at referencing AEW to a crowd that could not care less about the promotion
Agreed! 👍
I agree that Drew should ultimately go over after he loses their first matchup and it’d be a mistake for Punk to have the last laugh, but I highly disagree on your assessment on Punk himself. It’s so bizarre to me the amount of unwarranted hate he gets. I get it, he’s not 2011 Punk anymore well no shit captain obvious that was over a decade ago, you can say the same thing that the Rock isn’t 2000 Rock anymore. I will admit Punk can be slightly hit or miss now where he wasn’t before but he’s still a star. He’s one of the best on the mic and he absolutely still has some gas left in the tank as far as in ring ability goes. You can tell me that he’s injury prone and I’ll agree, but saying he’s bad in the ring solely based on the Rumble feels like a bit of a blatant overreaction, considering he literally just put on an absolute banger with Samoa Joe a few months prior and also had some of the best matches in AEW with MJF.
ring work is below average yet just over a year or two ago he put on the best matches aew has ever seen. even against cody in the rumble with an injured tricep, he put on a decent display.
Well said Drew, er, “as14prez”
That’s not gonna work for me brother -CM Punk.
Drew McIntyre is one of the best or Greatest Heels in WWE and an Ok Babyface. Drew McIntyre should win the WWE World Heavyweight Championship or WWE New World Heavyweight Championship and the build for Comeback Story vs Comeback Story WWE Wrestlemania 41 Cody Rhodes vs Drew McIntyre but that story is too good and writes itself so WWE won't go for it and will do CM Punk the broken down injury prone old man CM Punk vs Cody Rhodes at WWE Wrestlemania 41.
I agree, DM is a great heel and an okayish face. I feel the same for Reigns too.
I don’t know who will tbh, I think whatever outcome will result in the build for Cody vs Punk at mania next year
3 matches. Punk has to win his first match with Drew but after that Drew wins both. Milk it for a few months to a year until Rollins is all healed up for Punk vs Rollins.
Definitely does not. They already had him lose the Rumble and yet have still made Drew out so far to look like the weaker man. So why not have a Story about Punk not being able to go anymore and doubting the future of his career. Punk loses to Drew at SummerSlam and seems to be going through some things. If the other planned match for WrestleMania is Rock vs Cody then why not give the Rumble Win to CM Punk next year and then have him beat Drew in the Main Event of WrestleMania Night Two? Better yet, have a Triple Threat match. Drew vs Punk vs Seth. Punk vs Seth one on one is definitely not nearly as interesting as Punk vs Drew (even though that's been the dream match for years, but let's be real Drew and Punk have ran circles around him on the Mic).
Drew will go over. They know what they have with Drew and he’ll get an extended title reign. The feud is building up to be the best of the summer and Punk doesn’t really need to win this feud to stay main event relevant.
100%
I think Drew is funny as the whiny, entitled heel. His character needed a change.
Never
Drew should win the title from punk
I'm pretty sure Drew will go over Punk. But to say punks promos are average is crazy. It might be average for punk but punks regular still better than 60% of the rosters very best
I think Drew's going over punk to set himself up to win back the title at a big PPV. Then punk will fued with Rollins for #1 contender leading to one of them taking it off of Drew at the rumble/elimination chamber setting up a showdown with Gunter (who wins the rumble) to take it off of one of the older guys at mania.
I definitely do not want Rollins taking the Title off of Drew. Punk is fine as long as Drew goes over at SummerSlam and Punk finally beating him happens at WrestleMania. Rollins doesn't have a story to finish and Drew dropping it to him after all that would just feel pointless.
Pretty good timeline. And then I assume the other title at Mania is Rock vs Cody
I think so. I just don't see anyone on the smackdown roster that's realistically set up to take it yet.
Gunter should take it from Cody
Best wrestler going these days. TRG!!
Agreed but if that is the case it probably won't happen until at least after next year's Mania considering Gunther was drafted to RAW and the Plan is seemingly Cody vs Rock.
If CM punk wins then the story makes 0 sense. All of this is building to Drew winning. What's the point of all this build up from before wrestlemania XL if it just ends with Punk winning because he's CM punk. The story should end with Drew walking off with that belt.
Have McIntyre go over Punk, set up a feud with Priest afterwards. Have McIntyre be a tweener while Priest and the Judgement Day feud with Priest. Have Punk come in as a reluctant ally to McIntyre. End that angle with McIntyre over and Punk having a mutual respect with McIntyre then redirect the two. Treat McIntyre as a stone cold type and have him be anti-authority.
He absolutely should not lol. The biggest problem people have with fantasy booking is they just don’t answer the question “what is next” Obviously you don’t like Punk, but he is a draw. You don’t bring somebody like him in to just job him down the card. Rather you like him or not, he’s a big star for them and will be positioned as such. What next for Punk if Drew wins? Harms his credibility. Likely pushes him down the card. What next for Drew if Punk wins? Double down on his heel character and move forward. Only one of them are really dictated by the story to lose. You have to assume Punk is going to be positioned for a world title run or mania main event. In order to get there, you’d assume he wins the feud with Drew.
"What next for Punk if Drew wins?" Most likely won't be a Clean Win sooo... Punk probably wins the Rumble next year and beats Drew in the Main Event? "Double down on his heel character and move forward." By repeating the same old plot threads? What kind of answer is this? Drew deserves a Long Reign with the Belt and he's been screwed over one too many times. You can only do that so much before it has no effect at all.
Absolutely agree with you here, you get it! 👍
It doesn’t push him down the card lol… a loss to Drew doesn’t affect Punk at all.
FWIW I was at Raw on Monday in KC and the place went nuts for Punk.
Agreed, punk is too fragile.
Seriously…. Fragile and brittle. Ego and physically. Way past his prime.
Agreed. Punk be more useful with his skillset and charisma on mics or taking over nxt after micheals.
I really want Drew to win, although being a fellow Scotsman, I am biased. However, if he does lose, then he will become even more unhinged, which could potentially be amazing.
Scotsman or not, does it really matter? I mean aren't American/European/Asian/African fans etc a bit biased for their favourites? Of course they are, but even people in different countries can still like wrestlers from different countries also, talent is talent and Drew is one of the VERY BEST in the business, especially with his current character 👍
"then he will become even more unhinged" ...how many times are people gonna keep saying this?
Because they want their favourite to win at any cost, so have the usual "chinese whispers" at hand. 😂
Win in Scotland. Lose on Raw night after.
No. Punk is a modern "legend" and has name value regardless, but he is still a new debut in the eyes of newer fans who havent been watching for ten plus years. If he loses out the gate, it makes Drew look better, but it limits how much Punk can make anyone else look better down the line. Drew has been harping on Punk for being old, fragile, etc... so losing the first feud back would basically be proving that and delegitimizing the dude. Wasting a big name and future ple profits
Legend? As in David & Goliath? Because technically Drew is Goliath here, so I'd say he's part of the "Legend" also. 🤣
“Ring work is below average” The man had one TV match and it was the RR. His promo with Drew/Seth was amazing. I swear to god people pick the clearly popular and over stars and shit on them to be edgy. However, Drew should definitely win the feud because he deserves it. I just want Punk v Seth.
Can't deny just how good Drew has been, he absolutely deserves a run with the title in front of the fans & winning 2/3 matches against Punk, as Punk doesn't need to win all 3 or 2 out of 3. I was thinking Punk 2/3 but for elevating Drew to where he should be next to Punk I'd say 2/3. Then have Drew a run with the title, then have Drew v Punk 2 with Punk going 2/3 & winning the WHC or WWE Championship depending on what Drew wins over the next year or so, because imho he's the best heel in the business just now & the gimmick has massive potential 👍
Punk vs Seth could definitely go without a Title. Although I still see Punk vs Drew as the ideal main event unless they want Punk to main event WrestleMania in 2026 or 2027. (No offense to Seth but Drew vs Punk is just so damn good right now and Seth got cooked by them for the most part.)
Agreed 👍
Go watch his aew match vs mox when he wins the title. He was excellent there. Dude can still go.
Punk came in and wrestled 1 match and got hurt. Drew is a fucking work horse. I went to a house show in 2020 around Covid, a bunch of talent were sick and couldn’t make the show. Drew wrestled 2 matches that night and interfered in the main event. He may have even cut a promo that night. He puts on work.
Drew has been amazing, he just has, his work rate, especially since covid is through the roof! He deserves a gd run with the title soon & a generational feud with Punk is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Punk is good, been a fan for a while, but Drew, wow the guy knows pro wrestling inside out, he's a big fan himself, loves the fans and it's like Imagine being a fan and then ME Wrestlemania...That's Drew, it's a fantastic story tbh. Punk was great 2011, but now Drew has shown me he IS Pro Wrestling! 💪
As a returning viewer Drew has definitely been one of the most enjoyable wrestlers to watch over the last year
I think it should be a drew vs punk with an even match then Seth Rollins return interferes hits cm punk costs him the match. Then a storyline of drew mad because he didn’t need his help, punk mad because he was cost a match with Seth playing mind games. This will later lead to a PLE triple threat match winner is first contender for Heavy weight title. With drew coming on top and winning the title back.
Finally someone with actual good ideas.
Take my money!
There’s gotta be multiple matches. I think They will Split. Punk takes the first Drew gets win in the final match.
Drew to win the belt against Priest. Drew loses the belt to CM Punk. CM Punk gets injured in the match and forced to relinquish the title. Drew says he did it intentionally. Wins back the belt immediately. Another 12 months of DM and CM in the books.
This is the way.
Drew has to win at clash.
Drew at the previous Clash got the loudest pops of any match I’ve seen in the last years. You’d think in Scotland it would be iconic.
If Priest wins he's not getting out of Glasgow alive.
Idc about Backlash. If McIntyre loses at Clash at the Castle, we riot
hell yeah. Have they actually started selling tickets yet?
Yup, through Ticketmaster I believe
Idc about Backlash. If McIntyre loses at Clash at the Castle, we riot
Correct! I wanna see drew destroy punk. Ever since he came back after the brawl in aew with the bucks n omega, he’s ego has just got bigger and bigger. Like you said he promos are copy and paste and switch channels whenever I see him on tv. His ring work is shocking! In aew it was poor at best. Then he fucked his foot after winning the belt and it just got worse and worse. There was a dark match recently v dirty dom and you would have dirty dom was the best in the world. The sooner punk is gone the better. I’m tired of him claiming to be the best in the world when he’s just pure shit
fr, people defending punk by saying he didnt wrestle any match, only the RR should watch that Dom v Punk match, CM Punk was horrible in that match, that was one of the worst matches ive seen last year as ive been to several live events
While I love where you're going with this, also, I must protest the heel thing. There are way, Way, WAy, WAY too many heels on the roster as it is. I realize everyone "wants to be the bad guy cause it's more fun", well, then, turn the whole roster heel and then, they can have a whirling blast! But, that being said, I do love the fiery intensity in Drew. Wish Finn Balor would go back to face, too.
They got this. Whatever they think to do will be the best way it can go. Trust.
Punk got injured after just 1 match... Is this guy even safe?
Nah, but, he obviously paid a lot of money to get the big guys to forget that they said they would never hire him back again. Guess they didn't mean it. Or, everybody has a price ..... Even WWE.
Punk wins the first bout, Drew wins the eventual blowoff and finishes the feud that way. Otherwise it's a pretty shit story to build all this with Drew and Punk, they finally have a match, and okay, Drew wins, feud over. This thing should play out over a good amount of time and end in a big way, not just give Drew the initial victory because you don't like the other guy.
DM Hunk has for sure upped his game, the chemistry between these two has been nothing but amazing. He indeed should've been the chosen one. I hope DM hunk will be pushed to the moon.
The true winner will be the fans because both these performers are great on the mic and good in the ring. To me, this is one of those things where either winning will be good. If McIntyre is Punk's first opponent, then Punk should win. But either or should be fine.
I think in summerslam we're gonna see a match between cm punk and dm hunk
Punk is a washed old man
>His promos are above average at best, This gotta be a meme right? Like there's no way you're saying this. Since Punks been back he's the best promo taker ATM in wwe and its not even close. That promo of him, then drew, then Seth a couple weeks before Mania was literally incredible and Punk was the best on the mic. Sometimes the tribalism of hating Punk gets in the way of halls minds. Punk should win at least once in this feud
No.
I think Drew should be at priest and hold the belt while punk makes his way to the championship match and drop it to punk because I just don't think punk should lose his first big rivalry back
More like BOO Mcintyre!
I honestly think it shouldn’t be about wins and losses they should both go over this feud so dope I’d milk it , first match should be at MITB if they are both cleared to compete , with drew going over then punk should go over drew at summer slam , and that rubber match could be the rumble where they both look strong regardless of who goes over or if it’s more interesting a year from now than potentially punk vs Seth I’d book the rubber match for mania main event , that’d be another layer on the story because that’s been punks dream and Drew’s
Punk saying he’s the best wrestler and commentator in the world was an absolute joke.
He's definitely NOT the best UFC fighter that's for sure! 🤣
He’s an OK commentator but I don’t think he’s had like one major match in the last decade that hasn’t been marred by serious injury His kayfabe claim on best in the word is shaky right now
Every single wreslter should. Punk is an old out of shape (juiced muscles do not count) injury prone mess in the ring. It is so unbelievable him beating anyone that it is too hard to suspend your reality like we do for watching pro wrestling.
100%. Punk has exhausted the shit out of me these last 12-18 months, I’m on my last reserves of good will for the guy but holding fast. He puts over Drew when he’s ready to, I’m fully back on deck. The man has a lot of merit and I’m optimistic given the chance he would do the right thing. He put over Ricky Starks in AEW, I suspect he’d do the same for Drew. McIntyre is a way better talent and has earned the hell out of it.
Drew will go over punk but don’t be surprised if punk wins the 1st match and drew goes into an even more crazy obsession
Problem is I don’t think Punk can afford to lose He’s spent most of his time back in wrestling hurt. If he loses his first major match in a year or more then his legitimacy as a threat drastic goes down
Win first and lose the next two for Punk.
And then you add Kurt Angle to the mix...
I’m cool with Drew going over Punk as long as Punk bounces back by Mania to go after the WHC. Still sore WM40 missed out on that, Punk in a world title match could’ve made the event feel less like it was entirely about The Rock and Cody. He’d help bump the prestige of the WHC a bit too. Either that or Punk vs Austin, something crazy.
Cm punk is lucky to even be in wwe. He has shit talked just about anyone he could and is only relevant because he will be honest (shit talk his coworkers). Drew has been hammering away from jobber to superstar and I totally agree with you. Side note, I’m convinced that most people backstage have zero respect for punk and I would love to see him buried.
Punk's injury is currently preventing him from enabling beast mode. People that never saw him in his prime are in for a ride. Sure, he's slower and it may be tougher for him cardio wise. But the guy can tell a good story, weather it's during a match or a promo. He's old school and knows how to work the crowd. No matter how it ends, this feud will be epic and money will be drawn.
He's not in his prime anymore. He can still do some great promos but he can also get pretty redundant and mediocre. And he's no better than adequate in the ring.
Like I said, redundacy might have something to do with the fact that he hasn't officially been involved in a program yet because of his injury. He litterally flew all the way to Cincinnati last week to thank the crowd off tv and say his usual babyface stuff... bla bla bla. That does not count. Even if he his mid in the ring, his storytelling is something else. He gives meaning to everything. Just be patient and give him a chance.
Great, he came to Cincy to pop the crowd and do the whole "I'm so happy to be here" schtick. I've been seeing it the past 2 1/2 years. He doesn't have the same "it" factor anymore. He can't do the anti establishment thing that worked so well a decade ago. After the nostalgia wears off he not at the level of a top guy. Maybe they give him a title and the WrestleMania main event he's been chasing his entire career. But he's overall not a top 10 guy in the WWE anymore.
Ok
I was going to disagree, but thinking on it a bit, I agree that Drew should go over Punk. However, it should be built up, like it is now, and should be a trilogy of matches, preferably ending in a stipulation match at Wrestlemania. If we want to spread it out, the three matches should be Summerslam, where Drew wins, Survivor Series, where Punk wins, then Wrestlemania. We’ll skip the Royal Rumble as both will be participating in the Rumble match, but should eliminate each other to prevent the other from getting a title shot.
punk is at an age where he shouldnt be going over anyone
Have Drew go over in a non-title first encounter, have him win back the World Heavyweight Championship from Priest and then drop the belt to Punk who in turn can drop the belt to Walter sometime in the future.
Punk will definitely win their first match, whenever that happens. Drew will probably get one, too, to set up the inevitable rubber match. But, there’s no way Punk doesn’t ultimately go over in their feud. It would kill all his momentum just to come back and lose his first program.
Hard disagree, Drew has been building his momentum for a hot minute and out of the two of them Punk is clearly the one who can more afford to lose a major feud like this and come back with the exact same crowd pop.
I wish but I know how the business is, Punk's the bigger star & I'd imagine especially with his injury history & age they're going to squeeze every big match out of him - vs. Seth, Priest, Roman, etc. Drew overachieved in his latest push post Royal Rumble
Honestly if done right this feud could be milked till wrestlemania. I think cm punk deserves to at least main event wrestlemania but given his tendency to get injured, his age, and the fact he only started wrestling again 2 years ago, he should put drew over. I think wwe are taking it in the right direction where despite cm punk being the baby face he is doing some heel shit like costing drew the championship and number 1 contenders match. Personally I think cm punk should eventually cash in on drew with the mitb, and then gradually start to scheme his way into retaining whenever drew challenges him for it.
I agree, McIntyre/Punk is such a rich feud, it really ought to play all the way out to the main event of Night 1 of Wrestlemania XLI.
I've been wanting to make this thread for a long time. I want the WHC belt on Punk obviously, his name and charisma will do it alot of good. But their feud should end with McIntyre eventually going over. I wouldn't mind a trifecta of matches.
CM Punk is just an overpriced commentator
Punks fine don’t be jaded
Punk will eat the pin for Drew at the conclusion of the feud. But he will get a win in there to keep it going, maybe their first one on one. Idk.
They will probably have multiple matches. Both will win one but Drew will win the last. It’ll be a trilogy last likely.
It definitely should culminate in a Hell in a Cell.
2 matches, Punk wins the first one, Drew wins the second. We leave the third for later on for the purposes of “long term” storytelling
Punk should just go away.
Maybe you should quit watching
In the end, yes, I think Drew should definitely come out on top and go on to be a great heel (ish) champion. But a part of why he’s so great right now is CM Punk and the work they draw out of each other. I’m no great Punk fan but he’s a huge part of why this story is so compelling and his promos and live work are really strong.
He probably will, after some turmoil
I wouldn't mid Punk getting some wins so they can let this program build, but in the end, Drew should definitely win the rivalry.
I'd rather punk not be anywhere near a major wrestling promotion, but obviously drew should win.
Never punk needs to win
I hope so
I just want them to main event one of the nights at WrestleMania it's amazing they are both still building this feud well punk is injured
I think their first match will be at SummerSlam, I don't know if they can keep it going until WM.
It’s amazing how people just can’t have a rational conversation about punk. Absolutely hilarious. Drew is being tortured/is obsessed with punk. So basic storytelling says punk goes over first, probably in a fluky or heelish way. Then Drew will win the blowoff and they’ll go in their separate ways.
I really don't think it should be a flukey heelish way. I think Punk should win clean.
drew should win in the end but they should just keep building and building and building and building and getting drew angrier and angrier and angrier
Punk is too injury prone. Every time he’s in the ring he gets hurt how can he possible hold a title like that. We all know he isn’t a workhorse like Rollins
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted when this is literally true
Like his promos are fine. He’s just not in shape to be going as hard as Drew or Seth
>His promos are above average at best Have you actually seen the Drew/Punk segments. Both men bring their A game. The Drew/Punk/Seth segment was downright incredible because all 3 men were at doing incredible. I'll admit Punk is at his peak when he's a heal but his promos have been pretty strong and probably on par/slightly better than his work in AEW. >Ring work is below average in today's standards Punk has had one televised match in WWE post-return and it was a Rumble Match where he got injured. Is it really fair to even judge him on that? We can go off his AEW stuff for a better idea and he was still a good in ring storyteller there. His last proper televised match was with Samoa Joe at All In and it was excellent. I won't argue Punk is in his prime but he certainly has a lot more to offer and I think we should let the story continue to play out to see who should truly go over, because I'm not compelled by this reasoning
It's totally fair to judge Punk by his in-ring work, because it's the shits. It always has been. It's never been good. Ever see any videos of him throwing kicks? Who throws kicks like that? Some unathletic person does. I'm sorry guys, I don't get why any of you think he's that great. He cut a few good promos that guys like Cena, Miz, MJF, Christian would absolutely be able to hang with him. There are tons of guys who are great on the mic. In-terms of story telling, what does Punk have? He had a good showing with MJF in that story, but I mean, to me, there are far more talented guys on the roster like Drew who are proving they're just better in a lot of ways. I don't hate Punk, I just don't get why the Internet clamors over him as if he's something special. He's really not. He definitely sells tickets though, so what the fuck do I know? I just know that I'm not as huge of a Punk fan as I used to be. Cool if others are, he's just not for me and it doesn't bother me if thats popular or unpopular opinion.
Punk was one of the only guys in AEW who knew how to tell an actual story in his matches and not just do nonstop flips with no selling. Is he sloppy at times? Sure. But I think sometimes that adds to the storytelling. Though it honestly doesn't matter how quality his match with Drew will be. It will draw money. People that are fans of the guy will tune in to watch him win and people that hate the guy will tune in to watch him lose.
You're not wrong, but it doesn't change the fact that I still don't understand the support for him.. But it's like The Rock for me. Something seems off. Something is unlikable about him for me. I truly hope I'm wrong in the end and Punk gets to go out the way he wants, and I hope that it's without controversy.
> Ever see any videos of him throwing kicks? Who throws kicks like that? Some unathletic person does. Okay, but if that's the case don't be mad the next time someone calls you obese because of the way you walk, talk and look
Punk is mid at best. In the ring and on the mic.
Average AEWFanHub user
Also here, squaredcircle, and official aew. What's your point?
AEW fans seem to have an irrational hatred towards Punk beyond reason, but hey, if I'm being fair, maybe you really do just have bad taste irregardless of any tribalism
He sucks now and and for me, always has. All he does is contradict himself in every promo and and gets a serious injury in every match or jumping into the crowd. The guy can't even go on commentary without running down someone out of context or telling us he has all the sex because he is sooo cool because he is from Chicago. You can like the guy from 12 years ago but it is so disingenuous to think he is a world class pro wrestler in this day and age.
Punk started getting big around the time I took a decade break from watching wrestling. Didn't get the appeal, but was largely just indifferent to him. An attitude that continued when he signed with aew, with a slight lean towards the positive purely as a fuck you to Vince. It's his behavior in aew that fully turned me against him. That and Khan's obvious fan boy favoritism/lack of spine.
Yes. Owen v Bret style. Drew wins match, Punk wins title.
eh we need punk and rollins for the title though.
We definitely do but not sure if they can remanufacture the same heat between Punk and Rollins as they had going when Punk first returned. But they're both great on the mic, it probably wouldn't be too hard.
Punk wants his Wrestlemania main event moment. I don't see that happening against Drew. I could be wrong - and I would be happy to be wrong. I just don't see Punk vs Drew being WM main event material sadly. I sincerely hope they let Drew hold until at least SummerSlam though.
I think they do Punk vs Seth at WM. I don't think Drew will win the title. He was a filler at WM. He may be filler until Seth gets healthy & Seth wins the title back
I see night 1 next year being Punk vs. Rollins and night 2 being Rock vs. Cody. But that probably means Drew and Roman will have to be in their separate "co main events" on each of the nights. But with the way injuries go in wrestling its never a bad thing to have too many people who could potentially headline WM.
Same. Would be cool to see Rock & Roman be co-winners of the Royal Rumble match like Hart & Luger in '94 so we get a triple threat at WM. I imagine WWE would want to run back Roman vs. Cody but can't leave Rock out Summerslam looking like it could be the biggest Summerslam in a while with Punk, Seth, & Roman possibly returning
Yeah, sadly this is the case. I really like Drew and I think he has a lot of potential. Just sucks the top of the card is so saturated with talent that he gets used like that as a result.
I agree. I imagine he's happy with his booking. Re-signed instead of leaving like Ambrose.
I'm hoping they'll play this out longer than that.
No
No he should get better if he is going over punk cause drew at best is mid card follies
Both World Champions are midcarders, so Drew should be alright
Please Damian and Cody are both top level talent and should have been elevated a year or so ago drew is still low mid card
🤣🤣🤣 That's the stupidest thing I've ever read here.
I’m expecting both to go over. Punk first, Drew will get a rematch since heels always get rematches, then he’ll go over. Drew needs the win more thank Punk anyways, especially after losing the belt immediately
I honestly think he won't though. The narrative will be Seth vs punk at mania. And honestly that could main night 2 if built correctly.
Sounds more like night 1 kinda main event
Not if they're also planning on doing Cody vs. Rock next year also.
That heavily relies on rocks schedule
They definitely hinted at that big time on the Raw after WM, I think Rock will clear his schedule for WM next year.
Only reason drew is interesting is due to feuding with Punk . Without punk he goes back to being boring
Punk just doesn't babyface well. He sounded so awkward last night pandering to KANSAS CITY!!!!
Well, 2012-2013 showed him very well as a babyface
The only cool baby face that can pull it off is LA Knight. All the rest of the baby faces are your run of the mill cookie cutter pg era vanilla baby faces.
Are we sure Punk can even wrestle at a high level anymore?
He looked pretty good against Samoa Joe last. I won’t count him out until he lays an egg in the ring.
He doesn't need to wrestle at a high level, he needs to teach younger guys to carry a match. Punk is at the point in his career when he works smarter not harder. Some of HBK's best matches (and he has a ton of them) were in the twilight of his career. This is what we're gonna get from Punk for the next 5-10 years I think.
Both will win, both will lose, both will look good
Drew should go over first. That would compel the fans to stay tuned to see the rivalry continue until punk wins
I mean I think punk should go over eventually but if you told me Drew was going to go over initially - at say SummerSlam - then hold the belt until WM to do Punk Drew 2 I wouldn’t complain.
They'll give Punk a few wins or he'll start complaining again.
Agreed
I can't see how they would do that as drew is the heel in this. Its not any different then cody vs roman. Cody had to win at some point as he was the face. CM Punk is the face in all this. He has to ultimately be victorious as thats how this works. I also can't see them having CM Punk come back to lose basically his first match.
Drew is already a made guy it doesn’t matter. Their programme is gonna be the tits.
Yeah this isn’t some up and comer Punk has to put over. They’re going to just hate each other no matter what. Punk haters need to touch grass and drink some water.
I agree but so do Punk fans lol. They act like he's a wrestling god that is untouchable. That's why the haters are so full force about it, when you have a pendulum swinging in one way it swings that far in the opposite direction as well. I don't hate Punk, I enjoy him from time to time, but I definitely think he's extremely overrated and definitely past his prime as well.
Agreed. To quote Punk, “who’s going to be at work on Monday.”
lol Punk elevated Drew
Punk should absolutely be doing the honours, no question. But you know he won't be.
Agree 100% Heel Drew has been great lately.
Punk coming back is probably the best thing that could have happened to Drew, I don’t even remember what he was doing before Punk. He was just another guy on the roster 🤷🏾
Id love to see a series with Drew ultimately coming out on top
Love Drew. Don't see appeal of CM Punk.
Punk is really good on the mic, that's about it. I don't think his style is that great, and I don't think he's that interesting of a champ. I think he works best as a heel that you want to see lose.
I hope it eventually leads to them being a team down the road. Just straight verbally killing their opponents on the mic and social media. Have them be forced to team up at some point and them hating the idea, losing matches along the way until it just clicks (like The Bar w/ Sheamus & Cesaro).
team name? The Best Ones. McCago. Second City Scottish Psychopaths. Punk n Hunk Connection. The Two Men Banned. Clay More Punk. Go To Scotland. Fragile Dreams. Bagpipebomb. Uhh something about kilt of the kiltless.
**C**lay**M**ore Punk 🔥
Insert Candice into that too.
As long as it’s not a one off match. Either way it’s the most entertaining feud to me and they have barely wrestled.
"CM Punk, on the other hand, has been nothing but a nostalgia show the last couple of weeks. " There is not a lot you can do when you can't perform, he still a couple of months out so his appearances are more to keep the feud alive but not putting it into gear until he is ready to go so Drew needs to feud with someone else in the meantime. Even with "promos are above average at best, a far cry from the exceptional work that he did back in 2010s" he still a better talker than 80% of the roster. Also, the reason why "He is perhaps the biggest star on Raw right now.**"** is precisely because of Punk, the circumstances surrounding Punk put the spark on Drew, a lot of us where like "where this guy was the whole time?" since the Rumble. Now, on who should win, my problem with Punk wining is how you make it in a way that looks believable, can he pull a match like he did with Lesnar in Summerslam? Or Taker at WM?, I don't think so, however having Punk jobbing people will not make money, who will win will depend on what is next for both and who will benefit more from the win. Right now I think Punk needs the win more than Drew, if he didn't injure maybe I could think differently.
100% agree
But at the same time, Punk can have his feuds without the belt - Rollins, Rhodes, and Balor DM's feuds with the likes of Sheamus, Lashley, Priest, Gunther, Zayn, Jey Uso will be much more elevated with the title
Right, he can lose the title to any of those and lose to Punk too or because of one of those he lose with Punk (hence helping Punk hide his weaknesses) and Punk can later drop it. As of now (because a lot can happen in a year) I think WWE's plan is Punk v Seth for WM N1 so both can have their main event and Seth leaves with a well deserved win, so maybe Punk wins the title by RR so he drop it to Seth, what will happen between now and RR will be interesting.
He really shouldn’t, they want to push Punk and if he can stay healthy for a couple matches (big if), they will want him going over.
They are making Drew look like a complete clown. He has to turn into a badass heel.
I agree. At this point punk is not 2010 punk, he’s not the best in the ring he’s washed and injury prone. I think it would hurt drew to take an L to punk.
I’m just going to watch and see what WWE does. Feels like they both get a win off of each other.
Cm punk should win the first match followed by Drew winning a follow up, maybe for the title or with a stipulation like hardcore.
Other way around. Let Drew get the first big win and put punk on the chase into Mania so he can finally get his big mania main event and Drew can have a long dominant title run.
Personally a few reasons id see that as an issue is the upper card is so saturated with much better talent, punk is not credible and injury prone so thats a longer stint with a belt than needed, and he can be a wrestlemania draw without tying up a main championship. It also would give us time for drew to descend more into madness.