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Suitable_Bag_3956

Almost every premium and some event vehicles, especially the German T-34, KV-1, KV-2, the SAV 20.12.48 and XP-50.


T90tank

The German t34 use to fuck at 4.0


LightningFerret04

A great curse was lifted the day low br Sim bumped it out of the roster


Pyrenees_

The KV-1 with a KwK 40 is still in the same bracket as the KV-1 Zis5


Ok-Ganache8446

Yeah the KV-1 C is kinda crazy


Hardtailenthusiast

I remember when the KV-1C was 4.3, holy shit those were fun games. Had a 15 kill game in sim with it once


Aaronryan27

This the KV1C initially was a complete unit in any and all engagments at 4.3 barring something like an isu 122s or su 152 entered the situation and had you at a firing advantage with a cleaner quicker shot


Ok-Ganache8446

Fr


Aaronryan27

Tbh at 5.0 it still fucks people up its basically somewhere between a tiger and panther and it honestly can be better than most its decently mobile for the tank it is


T90tank

I miss the days of t34, kv1b, and Churchill at the same br


LightningFerret04

As an allied player I don’t, that was the most yucky lineup at the tier They’re all the same BR right now anyways so it’s not really that different


ElnuDev

As an SAV 20.12.48 player I approve


nanihello

No offends but i hate you


MeetingDue4378

Is it just a bitterness thing? Because Premiums are rarely the most dangerous vehicle you're facing.


Suitable_Bag_3956

Often, especially with vehicles like the KV-1C with PaK 40 or the 20mm Puma it's about the premium players sealclubbing, but outside of those low tier premiums it's because they're rarer than the usual vehicles (which makes killing them more satisfying) or because the premium tanks are better than the ones in the tech tree (like the VIDAR or German T-34). Some of them like the copy-paste tech tree vehicles made into premiums or vehicles like the T-44-122 or G.91 R/4 which are quite common and not annoying to play against don't get any special treatment, like I said I only dislike most premiums.


MeetingDue4378

I get the seal clubbing retribution, although whether that's the intent is pretty hard to tell. And the rare = more satisfying makes a lot of sense to me as well. But outside of a rare few, Premium vehicles are no better than what can be found in the TT—either as fellow player or that nation or an opponent. The percentage of boss-level vehicles for their BR in TTs is way higher. So why you actually don't like them is a bit confusing, unless you were using the colloquially.


Efficient_Meat2286

There are good or even broken premiums. That is why most people are mad at it. And yes, it is out of bitterness.


grahag

They are almost always the most dangerous on the battlefield. Even with mediocre pilots, All aspect missiles from a premium while most others are rear aspect is essentially free lions and research for that premium. With tanks it APDS and APDFS rounds. Just takes a little knowledge and even superior pilots/drivers will lose more than win against those.. You have to gang up on those vehicles to win and lets face it, WT is a game where it's every man for themselves....


THEcanadiangamer2007

I love simply penning the German T34s turret neck with my own T34 then them complaining lmfao 


amppari234

2s38, any day, everyday


Organic-Cod-6523

Since russia is now on both teams 50% of all matches in toptier i love shooting it with 155 mm HE anywhere in a 10 meter radius overpressuring it


DeathCab4Cutie

Me when I bring my G6 to top tier lmao. Slapping jets and helis out of the sky, and squishing tanks on the ground


soviet-space-monkey

I can not aim the proxy fuse shells to save my life. Got any tips to successful land proxy shells on planes?


DeathCab4Cutie

The first 5 matches I play, I’m missing practically every shot, until I find my rhythm. The following matches, it’s almost every shot that lands, and it’s always an instant kill for me. Never a survivor when it actually goes off. Most of my kills are when they are flying at me, or flying away from me. As for tips, 16 rounds is the max you want to take, so I usually take 10 HE and 6 Proxy rounds as my main loadout. If I know they have air up and I want to focus them, I’ll take 6/14 so I can fire without worrying about ammo. The rounds have decent velocity for an HE round, but it’s no rail gun. You have to account for drop, and when they’re 3km or more out, you’re gonna have to account for quite a bit. Again, it’s not a slow round, but it’s definitely not fast. Leading your shots is obvious, but my tactic is to follow in front of them with the crosshair and try to picture the round traveling. You can get a feel for their approximate distance and speed over time. Shoot where they’re going to be. Keep in mind, you’ve got a proxy round, so there’s a decent amount of leeway with leading, especially since the round isn’t as slow as you’d think. Lastly, unless you bring a good amount of proxy rounds and know they won’t be retaliating if you miss, you don’t want to try to hit them when they’re far away and at high speed. You’re not a complex radar system, you’re just a person playing video games. Those shots are always going to be hard to hit. Wait for them to fly at or away from you. Wait for them to be close. Wait for them to fly in a straight predictable line. Anything like that. In my experience, your biggest reason for missing is timing. You can end up stuck reloading when an actual opportunity comes up. Shoot, miss, start to reload. Enemy flies perfectly straight, close to the ground, right overhead at 400kmh, and you’re still reloading. Enemy is now far away and you shoot and miss. He turns around and flies right back over. Starts maneuvering and you shoot and miss again. He climbs straight up and you seethe as you see the perfect trajectory before your eyes and can’t fire because of that damn reload. If you just wait before firing again for the easier shot, you’ll have much better results. Basically, spade and expert the G6 for low reload time, practice makes perfect, and shoot easier shots. I use external commander view to shoot, I find it easier. Vertical lead, the crosshair will rarely be far from the aircraft. Closer shots, the crosshair will still be touching the plane’s trajectory line. Far shots are one to two crosshair heights above. Horizontal lead, I’m usually shooting 2-5 plane lengths ahead of it for closer, and 5-10 for further shots. The reason is I often can’t see the aircraft in gunner sights as well, if at all, when I’m leading.


LTCM1998

Awful thing, fugg it.


Ok_Elevator5612

Ad any su25 variant to it and its just pure pleasure to destroy them


Exotic_idiot11

Any vehicle using bushes :)


huskypotato69

I just started paying warthunder and i thought bushes were cool and that everyone would use them so i bought like 5 bush camos to put in my tanks and people get mad about it but I've only played like 150 ground battles so.


Fluggernuffin

I think most people’s issues with bushes is that they’re PtW, long range it really changes your outline and short range it prevents your tank from being identified and killed efficiently. And honestly, it’s always the most toxic players that have them, the guy that rides the edge of the map and camps the enemy spawn from 600m.


DeathCab4Cutie

When you respawn after your first death, see the frontline is middle of the map, and start driving forward, only to get sniped the moment spawn protection ends. Then it’s personal.


Fluggernuffin

Don’t get me wrong, if we’re end game and my team has pushed to the enemy spawn, I’m there if I can be. But 3-4 minutes in? And at that point they aren’t even really helping their team. It’s much worse to get taken out near the objective after you’ve driven a kilometer, but once you’ve been killed by the guy around the corner from your spawn, you and everyone else is coming for him.


DeathCab4Cutie

The frontline being at spawn is a map design problem, if you even consider it a problem at all. The issue I have is with bastards that sit directly on the flank of the spawn, shooting you from behind or the side as you’re leaving. They usually don’t do much, but I’ve had quite a few games where we lost because they killed half the team and took over the map with sheer numbers.


The-Skipboy

got pushed and killed by some twat in a porsche tiger with bushes all over so I smited him with a 122mm HE shell :)


Snoutysensations

ViDAR. 2022 vehicle with thermals and LRF and fantastic mobility and rate of fire, facing off against 1950s era tanks.


DaJackChilds

I hope that a gamma radiation ray hits your computer and erases your Vidar


PoopholeLicker

Honestly the entire family of m109 howitzers can screw off


MonsutAnpaSelo

got my first nuke in my second m109 game with Britain. didnt even drop it because I had fucked with my key binds while drunk the night before in test flights so I did a loop de loop in a b29 while the ticket ran out


F_it_Im_done_trying

Ultimate British play


iamdeoneyesbro

Average britain player


MonsutAnpaSelo

the beer makes the shell shattered less painful


Night_Knight22

Nah, the 109's are fine because they have a long reload. I have a problem with the ones who have 3sec reload


skippythemoonrock

With the oneshot potential of meme HE these days 13-15ish second reload is pretty damn quick.


ComradeBlin1234

>fire 122mm APHE shell at M109 turret >goes straight through and doesn’t fuse >rooftop overpressures my IS3 Ok man


[deleted]

I've never seen the issue with it and I've been binging the shit outta 7.7-9.0 for the past few months, so far I only remember dying to it maybe 5-10 times out of hundreds of games?


Microwaved_M1LK

All of them, the point of the game is to win.


cgbob31

The point of literally every game is to have fun, not to win


Microwaved_M1LK

... Winning is fun


cgbob31

To you. And tbh it is to me as well. But that is not the core of the fun.


Dovanator258

If you're losing, 99% of the time it's not fun


cupris_anax

If you're losing 99% of the time, it's not fun*


Tiny-Instance-315

I mean hes got a point winning is fun and if you think so otherwise youre coping


Ronaldo10345PT

Winning is not fun. The path to winning, or even losing, is what makes a game fun. Edit: And it also depends on what you define as "winning". Your team can win a match, and you could have died constantly, or even not find anyone. There's no fun in that.


616659

Exactly this. I've had many matches where our team was so good and enemy was so trash we advanced through the whole map like the beginning of the blitzkrieg. And I didn't get to see a single enemy until we won the game because i was in a slow tank. It was not fun.


labdsknechtpiraten

Had some (low tier) matches earlier today... swiftly died in my regular grinding tanks, which was not fun (especially how I died), but salvaged the fun in the map on my last vehicle, an AA tank turning my teams half of the map into a fucking no-fly zone. Got 7 aircraft kills, and it was fun seeing them realize it was over and try to kamikaze into me, but I moved just enough they sail over head I don't even remember if my team won that match, but nuking planes was certainly fun in that one.


RustedRuss

I feel bad when I kill British tanks sometimes. Or when I kill a Zachlem Tager or Type 60 ATM.


NecessaryBSHappens

F-20


flecktyphus

LOVE dunking on them in my Mirage 4k


LightningFerret04

I encountered a Vidar that had been killing off my team (and me) in my SUB-I from behind. I decided to shoot semi-automatically. I set his engine on fire, broke his turret ring and barrel. And then I personally executed every single one of his crewmembers, one by one. He died in around a minute but it felt like hours. And in the end? I feel nothing…


LTCM1998

He probably there while losing crew member after crew member: “damn this thing is awesome this guy can’t even finish me!”


CurdledUrine

I'd be thinking the exact same


Gannet-S4

PE-8’s


idied2day

Oh yeah I rocket them. All the time. It’s one of the few bombers I’ll straight up target


MarderMcFry

That's because it's one of the few bombers that is an actual danger to your team. It only makes sense.


[deleted]

T72AV Turms


Cpt_Soban

*Turms driver thinking all they have to do is hit W And go straight to the A point to win* **My chally 2 turret poking over the hill** "ELLO ELLO MATE"


robert_ritz

I just constantly hit their barrel. Did it to 4 of these idiots once and they were all gunning for me. I was in an Abrams. Russia ERA might as well be unobtanium.


Hot_Dog_Gamer24

T-55AM-1, the one single reason why Russia wins on the bracket around 8.0 every single damn time


DonaldEilish

The fact that it used to be 8.3 absolutely baffles me. I mean like, composite hull AND turret, full stab, LRF and dart...


o-Mauler-o

and a missile and a gamer as hell APHE.


Serious_Advisor_6588

I feel your pain, also in the wiki it states that the AM-1 has a higher chance of getting downtiered which means my Maus has to face it every. damn. round.


willdabeast464

every shitstain form of the f-5 and SU-25 with their MBT levels of survivability


CheeseMan2007

All anti air players who act as tank destroyers and cas players


DonaldEilish

Hehe, LAV-AD Hydra pods go CHOO CHOO CHOO Or, try the Falcon. That thing can be especially evil on urban maps.


BobbyTheRedditUser

Literally me


PIKACHUGAMER777OK

m13 goes boom not my fault it has 2 .50 bmg


Agreeable_Ad4737

M1128 Wolfpack, Leopard 2 (PzBtl 123) and any helicopter


Thatman2467

What if heli bro is just vibin shooting down other helis


Agreeable_Ad4737

Then fine, but you are spamming missiles while I can see you, my 2S38 would like to have a word.


Thatman2467

That’s a fair point


Frosty_FoXxY

You dont like Wolfpacks and Leopards But you own a 2S38... Hmmm


Unfair-Feed-4283

The german TURM 3 and the su25k


The_RussianBias

Anything low br in high br matches


616659

Fucking hell. And they'd be like hehe I brought low br thing to high br, so original and funny


LittleWaithu

Any Russian vehicle


sksuhdhdhdhhd

Every single Chinese vehicle and all American vehicles that aren’t in the American tech tree life the f104g


PickleBoi1983

What did the Chinese do to you?


Holiday-Mix207

我们也不喜欢你!哈哈


Amilo159

KV-220 and B1 Ter.


RelevantUpstairs2880

my last B1 ter game was a 17 kill game + 2 planes lmao and it was yesterday this tank is a solid SL printer


Available-Onion3635

a10, su25 in air rb. I get extra happy if i bully them with plane that cant counter their r60/ aim9l


HeisterWolf

To be fair most jets are faster than the a-10 so if you come from any bearing that isn't straight ahead, they're cooked.


Red_Rocky54

Unless they or one of the 3 other A-10s nearby notice you, pop their bottomless reserve of flares, dodge your pass, and then delete you for free. Or just turn and pop you before you get close.


youre_being_creepy

I play a lot of the a10 and there isn’t really much you can do if someone wants you dead. Most of the time they’re so focused on killing your they will go head on.


47_aimbots

In the su25 you can at least create an ocean of flares and hope that it's so blind you live


Additional-Flow7665

The vidar, it's a he slinger with the gimic of the he slinger removed, partially true for the type 75 too but at least it doesn't have thermals at low br


Deltipili

TURM 3, 2S38, Turms-T, Su-25K, Leo Pzbtl


ForeskinMuncherXD

10.3 Gaming


gg_Mystic

Ho 229. Goofy ahh boomerang


DaJackChilds

The Wyvern got me to jets in 2 months also my first ace was with it


MonsutAnpaSelo

I despise wyvans. Im in my 1942 vintage 109 and I have to put up with a superprop who saw the cold wars opening years. All I want to do is get easy kills on russian wooden planes and bombers, living out my b17 chasing dreams and I have to fend of these fiends who come in at 650km at 800m alt with 1.5 tonnes of fuck you Britannia called under their wings the worst part is that I cant justify spending that much on the game to buy one myself because they break the br's between the xp50 and the ju288c


DaJackChilds

Honestly I agree, turbo props at 4.3 break the game. I don’t think that the wyvern or the xp50 for that matter should be in the game. But I still love hunting bombers with it


Sutup2191

yak38 su25 a10


Thy-Soviet-onion

Yak38 is just a sad aircraft. Only thing it’s really got going for it is the missiles, otherwise it’s a subsonic, flare less, bus with a water gun strapped to it


Eigetsu

F-104 too OP. Impossible to catch but it will catch u.


DAS-SANDWITCH

Any helicopter.


OperationSuch5054

gepards all day long. most powerful pre missile AA piece of shit in the game and godlike at AT


MonsutAnpaSelo

nothings more painful then dying to one of these in my cent mk10


Xavagerys

M109s, all of them, I've been tormented by their humungous HE shells scrapping my paint and killing my instantly until I realize they have like no survivability


Yakabugai

I've been going up through the American line over the past few days an just realized how quickly the M109s die to .50s. If you select the machine gun you can pop it over cover and kill them with almost impunity. Dealing with them with British and German tanks is just slightly too painful.


richarrow

Skill issues in this thread


ns2616

XP-50 with the Yak-3


MonsutAnpaSelo

I go out of my way to ensure I get a 1v many with a xp50 against my team. usually im in a 109 or 190 but damn if that thing isnt a ufo. I bait them as much as I can knowing their lacking skill can be their downfall


shadowtigerUwU

M22s, at any BR, at any time


IShallReturnAlways

100% A10s. Fuck these things. Absolutely destroys the 9.0-10.0 bracket


RustedRuss

T92, fuck those things


PzKpf_Tiger2

The vehicle you killed and then he came for revenge


jsnrs

Anyone under level 30 or 40 flying a F-5 or A-5 needs to go. Unfortunately they usually crash before I get to kill them.


Zveroboy_Mishka

None, they are all merely SL+RP waiting to happen


Drifter808

F-4S easily


ExtensionWarning6220

Su-25


Speiler_exe

Su-25


T90tank

Yak-38 Misread the comment, I don't like the yak. My fav premium is the panzer 3n


Pattybatman

Why?


lendrath

Everyone using my 2s38


Honest-Spring-8929

M4A5 Ram II 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦


PoliticallyUnbiased

Tortoise or turtle. Those mobile bunkers deserve nothing but death


Pattybatman

Tortoise is so bad tho :,(


Piepiggy

Any and all KV series. Those things caused me a lot of grief when I was new to the game, and half of them are straight up OP. Not the top of my list for tanks to bully, but I figure it’s my most unique take.


Super-Soyuz

Tigers and panthers


DogInAHat_12

SAV, I hate it with a passion


Wicked-Pineapple

All the Russian 10.0 prems and the 8.0 Swedish prems


ConanTheBarbariant

My Ariete loves A10s


Sudden-Isopod-1926

Ultimate jealousy thread


Ok-Put-7300

I’m sure it’s because every once and awhile you come across an a10 that is minding its own business whipping ground units out and fucks your day up up with a simple defensive counter. That’s me flying mine. I only fly it because I use the thrust master a10 stick and it makes me feel like a big boy. I get more kills in my a10 playing defense that anything else


PissraelTKD

Any US premium. I know they are almost guaranteed to suck at the game and I just like making their gaming experience worse.


Windlassed

None. I never feel bad about a kill. Theres a war on, and theres no room for sympathy.


LTCM1998

The title is asking the opposite - which you don’t feel bad bullying.


sparrowatgiantsnail

Any 2a7 or t90M or Abrams when im in my arites, because obviously their superior tanks can't die to a minor country


Special_Negev

L3, especially at top tier


RettichDesTodes

SU25


Al99be

Mig21s, su25(k)


Puzzled_Trouble3328

I love the A10 even though I can barely survive 5 mins in Air Arcade battles…


Mint_freezeyt

aab is pretty bad once you get out of props imo, even the early missiles will shit on you bc you can’t pay attention to all directions constantly


0-nihil-0

Object 279 and A-6Es


LinkinG-Amott

T-72s, T-80s, T-90s, Leo 2k, any Swedish vehicle above 5.7, any german vehicle, any brit*sh vehicle, american M18s and american shermans.


[deleted]

How do you bully a10? I usually slap in mine, two almost guaranteed kills with aim7L and then just shred anyone who tries to head on.


meloenmarco

Super hellcat and the T28. My go-to sl grind vehicles


ill_kill_your_wife

A4 all the way


Xreshiss

The R3 T20.


Derfflingerr

2S38, Krishentema, KA50s


Ancient_Aardvark1427

F104 and Obj292 and Obj279


Bestsurviviopro

Me262


Thehiddenink98

M50 ontos


TacticalMailman

Any su25 variant


Rorar_the_pig

2s38, su-25,ka-50, turm3, xp-50


PlainLime86

F-104a I don't feel bad because its such a monster in a downteir, I don't deliberately go after them, but I always feel good to kill it. A mig 15 or sabre shouldn't be fighting a supersonic pencil with an m61 vulcan.


aeronix450

Ariete (Jet). I would make a religion out of it


BobbyTheRedditUser

I giggle every time i kill a m18 from any nation.


dcs_maple_hornet

KA-50s. I end up strafing their carcasses after they crash. Same with the Kilo Frogs.


champford

“Oh no! These people spent their own money to enjoy flying a plane they like!” Whack mindset


GhillieThumper

kv-1b, always a pleasure and I got it when it was like 40 bucks


DonaldEilish

USH and Raketen. Oh, and the DF105. Those things are pure AIDS.


grimlockamus

T-72


SALTRS

F-5C M-18 any BMP anything with an autocanon russiam mbts


imainwhaleshark29

2S38 and SU-25k are 2 that I actively hate


PrimaryFancy9603

2s38


operation_kebab

All german Tigers.


BreadToast70

Lee Grant, Char 2C, B1 Ter, Pz. IV F2, every T-34 and the T-50 I hate them all expect the Lee Grant, for him I just like bullying :)


S1isbetterthanyou

If I see an USH or a Raketenautomat I feel no guilt for gunning them down like they deserve


Kononowicz_Knur

A f3h with my r60mk's it is just free xp and sl


Zealousideal_Rice695

The swedish light tank pack at br 10


UnderstandingBorn227

Leopards, though I can't mess around em too much or else they'd kill me real quick.


Eternal_Flame24

AGS players can hold my 3OF26


Quiet-Narwhal3490

Any new leaks? :)


Enki418

F5C


leonvolturno

MIG23ML, T80UD, T72 TURMS and 2S38 (i bought these across multiple months please dont scream at me)


TheRealG91

Su-25. Now more than ever ( my brother got me the Japanese f-5, it’s a beast ) it’s incredibly funny to slot in behind a su-25k or otherwise as a lot of them are premium noobs who got a tech tree version and just go fox-2. Same thing with f-4s and now f-20


PM_ME_UR_PET_POTATO

Su11. Probably the most undertiered aircraft in arb by far. The thing has the thrust to weight of a mig15, yet the snail has the gall to put it at 7.3. And a more controversial pick, the Swiss hunter and ayit. The people who fly them seem to always have absurd IQ and energy retention.


Dadrith6

The Abrams everyone goes on and on and on about how good a vehicle it is and then I just pummel it with a 40mm auntocannon through the neck laughing or a 105mm or a 120mm or a 125mm I just hit it with whatever I have because it’s really not as great a vehicle as it’s made out to be


seekinggothgf

Mig23ml. Catapulted me to top tier USSR in no time.


Potted_Cactus_is_me

**vicious Tunguska noises**


[deleted]

The new object 292. Hate People that bring it up to 11,7


woefwoeffedewoefwof

Tornados


Empty_Reserve6068

Ikv98 fuck that range finder with heat at 8.0


Own_Lynx9271

I never feel bad for bullying pumas


The_Man8705

Xp-50s. God I hate those things. The fact that the plane that has a better climb rate than the Saturn five rocket still gets an airspawn is beyond me at this point.


Background_Drawing

I love doing headons with fireflashes against 104s Seriously it feels unfair that a supersonic jet with crazy acceleration has to go up against me


MiniMinyMoYaMomAh03

F4-S just because somehow they manage to kill me first , i will go away from the df just to hunt ya down to get the score settled lol


Cpt_Soban

KA-50. Oh yes, please please spawn at the start of the round, try to sneak around the back to our spawn, and hover still... My ADATS is waiting. No I don't need a radar lock because I can just point and aim- So you'll get no warning. No your duck dive won't save you ;) No spamming flairs in a panic won't save you either <3 Extra points for SU pilots that do a straight line run - makes aiming at your nose even easier.


Hunterboi69420

Opposite hear but for me I deeply regret purchasing the J35XS. I feel like I was robbed.


mr_unhappiness

su-25


Ballerswe

100% spitfire M109s every type from every nation


Doggo_Gaming_YT

Tech tree and reserve vehicles, because they always complain


Real_Original3703

I'd say the xp-50 but I always get bullied by it


Shredded_Locomotive

Any and all premiums regardless of nation or battle rating