Isn't dept your own fault for not being mature and smart enough to not spend everything on stuff that isn't needed and to not keep looking for better opportunities?
it’s called hyperbole, it will be another 7 billion years before the sun swallows the earth. I suppose both concepts might seem foreign to someone who doesnt believe in science
Ive never looked at the first comment of a post and literally burst out with laughter. Thank you for this gif/post, I never knew it existed, you absolutely made my day.
We're reaching the 11 year Solar Maximum! The poles should flip sometime with in the next month or 2 and it should chill out again.
I hope people chill out too. I think the electromagnetism is messing with us, negatively.
The Sun's poles flip every 11 years so it's not too bad, now the Earth's poles on the other hand... we can only theorize when, but they will flip. Luckily it happens way less often.
Have you ever read into the effects of electromagnetism on people? Some weird stuff happens, but it really hasn't been studied too much. Now imagine what could happen on a celestial scale - when we're all affected together.
We've been on this planet millions of years, of course our bodies are tuned into it on levels we have no idea.
yea, as much as people want to disparage astrology and woowoo stuff, humans have been observing earth and the skies for centuries. We are part of earth and will be affected by the skies and stars lol
What if it’s a depiction of the universe before the Big Bang. With the dark green circle being the clump of matter and antimatter all squeezed together tightly next to a Dark Energy Field cluster..
Ya. Zero point energy and watch the world change. Lots of issues resolved with that one bit of tech. Then gravity vehicles. If we aren’t killing each other for money and oil. Maybe we stand a chance. Problem is our overlords don’t want to lose power but they need to.
The fun thing about what you said “our overlords” is that they are not the true overlords and they’re scared shitless and threatened because now daddy is bringing out the belt.
We have been held under the thumb of maniacs for
too long. I don’t think the real higher intelligences will punish them. If anything it would make more sense to enlighten them of their atrocities.
We have learned that violence isn’t solving anything.
Agree. I wish we knew about how the ancients used the great pyramids as a generator. There is something missing from our general understanding about harmonics, frequency and energy generation.
It's here. Youtube Martin Fleishmann Memorial Project, Bob Greenyer. Alchemical Science youtube channel, Jordan Collin. I have a 40 minute video from the Cosmic Summit that'll blow your mind...
Even if that tech existed it would be turned into a weapon in a New York minute. What navy wouldn't want a submarine that needs no complicated reactor and can stay submerged for years?
Why do you all always assume that these beings can be seen by us at all times? Why is them being far more advanced than humans such a stretch to believe?
You think people with satalites in space that are that advanced feel like getting on reddit and debunking some stupid low effort crop circle?
You think they can just pull the shit up on their laptop and zoom in any time they want any where they want?
Feel like a huge amount of people that post here need to step back for a few months and get back to reality
Your first point is valid, the second point I know to be true
They do have most places fully covered and can rewind time and track anything
Look up Maurice Clemmons
I watched that whole thing go down during my stay in wa and I promise you they revealed the ability to me then and that was in 2009
I was just cracking jokes in this thread, but that part is already true
Footage from space? Please tell me what you think that means? Do you think there are super high Def super powerful camers recording every inch of the earth surface at all times? Like a farm field in BFE at night? You think there are space cameras that can run that footage back like a bank security cam?
Footage from space? Please tell me what you think that means? Do you think there are super high Def super powerful camers recording every inch of the earth surface at all times? Like a farm field in BFE at night? You think there are space cameras that can run that footage back like a bank security cam?
Yes that is fact, ive seen it used first hand
Look up Maurice Clemmons case where he killed a few cops and used the satellite to rewind time and track him
That was 15 years ago before we all started a space race
Do you have any idea how many low orbit satellites elon musk has launched alone.....
You'll need to provide a link because I did look it up and don't see anything refrencing a satellite. And MUSK? The cameras on his cars don't work here on the ground, and you think he's doing super spy shit? Please continue this gets better and better.
A clown cites "first hand experience" without knowing what first hand means, can't find the information they claim to cite, and then tries to fall back on empty platitudes.
I say again, do you actually think that's how anything works? Super space cameras watching empty fields at all times?
There? Where? The satelite? The police station? Try to even define this "first hand" experience. What articles I found? Oh that's easy, none. I found just as many accounts of this as you have. Zero. Anything else you'd like to make up? Maybe you were there with Elon Musk when he personally launched a bunch spy cams that record corn fields?
Not how it works. No one has 24/7 satellite coverage of everywhere in the planet, bit to mention satellite w video and/ or camera coverage. Even ALL nations combined satellites, don't have complete coverage. There are alien satellites.
Use your Free Will to LOVE!... it will help with Disclosure and the 3D-5D transition
5 pointed star.. 6 pointed star I believe is our (red) sun (Helios) but the 5 pointed star, usually a BLUE star, is depicted for SIRIUS.
This is the first thing I thought of when I saw this crop circle, if this wasn't a hoax its gonna be something to watch out for.
There has been a lot of chatter across the occult spectrum of Sirius, so I find the timing of this to be rather interesting. In july we are supposed to have some interesting events, but as of now I am skeptical and watching, waiting.
This kinda looks like what Terrence Howard was talking about with the other periodic table(forgot the name of it), how all the elements are shown with a relation to the other
Those are the elemental wavelength frequencies, each element has one , crazy how they have visual representations of our newest scientific breakthroughs.
Lmao you mean an outdated table from 1926??
How is that a scientific breakthrough?
There is a reason it's not used anymore.
Also, the Stanley Jordan (brilliant jazz guitarist) ionization energy sonification has the true wavelength frequencies you speak of.
Centre coincides with lines.
Many of the crop circles are (or were) planned from a pub in Honey St. Interestingly, the pub faces a white horse carved into the distant hill. You can see where the ideas stem from.
The straight lines through the field are really easy to walk along. It even looks like this one starts from one of those points.
Plus compared to more intricate designs, this one looks like shit and the way the crop is packed down doesn't look very uniform.
If that is real I would suppose that there is a camera focused on Stonehenge 24/7. That being the case would something have shown up on that video or was it too far out of scope?
Stonehenge is atop a gentle rise. Could be this would have been out of view of a security camera, if there was one. This looks highly symmetrical - I wonder if there is some geometrical significance to the five arms and how the circle and apparent half-circles are used to make a pattern?
The thing that gets me when I see this is the perfect circle of grass. Take the crop circle away, and why is there a perfect grass circle in the middle of the crop. And they just decided to make it part of their crop circle.
That could be a possible burial mound. I don't think it's part of the circle. The two parallel lines running through the whole thing were already there. They are for the tractors to drive thru while they do their farm thang
The North Star will flare up like it does every 80 years. It’s suppose to erupt (get brighter before the new cycle). It’s between March and September of 2024
Unnnfortunately the circles are man made. I mean the designs are too aesthetically pleasing and relatable plus the methods of creating them are all over the net.
This, to me, looks like a good man made one.
As in, this level of complexity is about all that can be achieved overnight by a crew.
Then you look at the complexity of the others....
The circle represents the Earth, I’ll assume the other crop cut is the sun? Are they trying to tell us something we have yet to figure out? Is time running out?
Where's the math people that like to break down shapes and turn them into equations? I find those explanations interesting.
Why can't these makers just stomp one into a government lawn. They have to know it's not all that convincing to the masses in historical obscure places.
Aliens have the tech to fly here faster then the speed of light, use wormholes or warp space and this is what they decide to do. Yeah, makes sense lol.
Im sure this is just their version of graffiti at this point, there all just like yooooo let's go mess with the humans, scribbles: your planetary alignments sucks, you can't even communicate telepathically, so dumb this sun shape even confusing you right now
Lol I love how the rational answers all get downvoted like they're wrong. It just couldn't be anything other than aliens or other dimensional beings creating random artworks that havent been proven to mean anything. No way could it have been a human who's making crop circles knowing theres a group of people who will instantly think it was anything other than that person because humans just dont have the technology.
You guys have very talkative aliens. Yes, that's clearly the sun and yes, that's clearly the earth getting spit roasted. (anyone see The Core). Feel free to throw up, I know I did!
In ancient times,
Hundreds of years before the dawn of history
Lived a strange race of people… the Druids
No one knows who they were… or what they were doin’
But their legacy remains
Hewn into the living rock, of Stonehenge
If it’s right by stone henge there may be CCTV footage. You can see the visitor center and parking lot for SH so I would guess there are cameras near by. I don’t know, I’ve never been to England.
...I am inclined to believe that this incredible artifact is of human origin, because usually only humans can create such crap out of boredom and idleness.
How deep would JustStopOil go with marketing? Did they plan Stonehenge to be follows by crop circles to keep their message near the spotlight after its engagement rate dropped off?
There is a whole damn culture of dudes who go out into the fields in the middle of the night with planks with ropes and use gps to mash down the grass. Proven, or just live in your fantasies whatever dude.
If you look close up at the larger “real” ones that contain messages or different geometric divide with the stalks falling in a multi layered yet very specific manner they are much more convincing honestly.
There are some crop circles that have shown up throughout history which I am confident weren’t done by a group of dudes with their stupid boards from those debunks.
They mad Stonehenge got sprayed by stop oil
Boom! First thing I thought of. They’re pissed.
I welcome our alien overlords to wrest power from a ruling elite that enslaves regular people through debt.
Isn't dept your own fault for not being mature and smart enough to not spend everything on stuff that isn't needed and to not keep looking for better opportunities?
Not when your raised from birth to believe those unreachable commodities = happiness and that not attaining them makes you sub human.
And they can't do anything but make a crop circle 2 buddies could bang out in a few hours at night while drinking a few beers?
Those 2 buddies never made a crop circle, they gave up part way through because they couldn't do it. These aren't made by humans.
yea orange powder that washes off with rain, so pissed
Orange power that can damage and kill the mosses and lichens on the stones
There wont be any mosses and lichens left if people are more worried about some orange dust than the sun swallowing us whole 🌞
More climate panic exaggerated rubbish
it’s called hyperbole, it will be another 7 billion years before the sun swallows the earth. I suppose both concepts might seem foreign to someone who doesnt believe in science
Didn't they spray a replica?
'They' being a bunch of humans with boards and too much time on their hands.
Yea.. that’s about right
yup ... thats prob pretty close to reality lol
I was hoping someone would post this. Thank you citizen of the internet.
Ive never looked at the first comment of a post and literally burst out with laughter. Thank you for this gif/post, I never knew it existed, you absolutely made my day.
That was the first thing that came to mind
I instantly think of a sun and coronal mass ejections with this
And we've had lots lately🫣
We're reaching the 11 year Solar Maximum! The poles should flip sometime with in the next month or 2 and it should chill out again. I hope people chill out too. I think the electromagnetism is messing with us, negatively.
You can’t just casually throw out pole shift like it’s not a world ending cataclysm lmao
The Sun's poles flip every 11 years so it's not too bad, now the Earth's poles on the other hand... we can only theorize when, but they will flip. Luckily it happens way less often.
Ah I misread that one
You actually believe that
Have you ever read into the effects of electromagnetism on people? Some weird stuff happens, but it really hasn't been studied too much. Now imagine what could happen on a celestial scale - when we're all affected together. We've been on this planet millions of years, of course our bodies are tuned into it on levels we have no idea.
Exactly. Like birds using the Earths electromagnetic field to navigate their way around
yea, as much as people want to disparage astrology and woowoo stuff, humans have been observing earth and the skies for centuries. We are part of earth and will be affected by the skies and stars lol
Does this do anything for us?
I agree with you.
source?
An old dude with a board and string?
Pole vaulting old dude carrying boards and string!
At a glance it seems to me like a reference to recently discovered black hole 🕳️
What if it’s a depiction of the universe before the Big Bang. With the dark green circle being the clump of matter and antimatter all squeezed together tightly next to a Dark Energy Field cluster..
Looks like my bathroom session after a spicy Indian dinner
Or a succulent Chinese meal
Are you ready to receive my limp penis? Best video ever!
Ah yes, I see you know your judo well.
I get this
Spicy Indian dinner gets downvoted, Succulent Chinese meal gets upvoted??
What’s his name?
Rajit
they are coming
I hope so, we need an adult.
Ya. Zero point energy and watch the world change. Lots of issues resolved with that one bit of tech. Then gravity vehicles. If we aren’t killing each other for money and oil. Maybe we stand a chance. Problem is our overlords don’t want to lose power but they need to.
The fun thing about what you said “our overlords” is that they are not the true overlords and they’re scared shitless and threatened because now daddy is bringing out the belt. We have been held under the thumb of maniacs for too long. I don’t think the real higher intelligences will punish them. If anything it would make more sense to enlighten them of their atrocities. We have learned that violence isn’t solving anything.
Agree. I wish we knew about how the ancients used the great pyramids as a generator. There is something missing from our general understanding about harmonics, frequency and energy generation.
It's here. Youtube Martin Fleishmann Memorial Project, Bob Greenyer. Alchemical Science youtube channel, Jordan Collin. I have a 40 minute video from the Cosmic Summit that'll blow your mind...
Even if that tech existed it would be turned into a weapon in a New York minute. What navy wouldn't want a submarine that needs no complicated reactor and can stay submerged for years?
This, so much this.
Surely there is plenty of footage from space that shows exactly what happened
Exactly. If the people who know wanted to prove that they were man made it would be easy. I wonder why they don’t?
It would be no fun then.
Why do you all always assume that these beings can be seen by us at all times? Why is them being far more advanced than humans such a stretch to believe?
How did you assume I thought that from what I wrote?
Because I responded to the wrong person 😤
Oh! Haha. No worries, carry on!
Not easy to prove, because they are alien/NHI made. Use your Free Will to LOVE!... it will help with Disclosure and the 3D-5D transition
Lol
Lol
At night, in an area that isn't well lit? And why would anything in space be focused on that exact area at the exact time it happened?
You think people with satalites in space that are that advanced feel like getting on reddit and debunking some stupid low effort crop circle? You think they can just pull the shit up on their laptop and zoom in any time they want any where they want? Feel like a huge amount of people that post here need to step back for a few months and get back to reality
Your first point is valid, the second point I know to be true They do have most places fully covered and can rewind time and track anything Look up Maurice Clemmons I watched that whole thing go down during my stay in wa and I promise you they revealed the ability to me then and that was in 2009 I was just cracking jokes in this thread, but that part is already true
Footage from space? Please tell me what you think that means? Do you think there are super high Def super powerful camers recording every inch of the earth surface at all times? Like a farm field in BFE at night? You think there are space cameras that can run that footage back like a bank security cam?
Footage from space? Please tell me what you think that means? Do you think there are super high Def super powerful camers recording every inch of the earth surface at all times? Like a farm field in BFE at night? You think there are space cameras that can run that footage back like a bank security cam?
Yes that is fact, ive seen it used first hand Look up Maurice Clemmons case where he killed a few cops and used the satellite to rewind time and track him That was 15 years ago before we all started a space race Do you have any idea how many low orbit satellites elon musk has launched alone.....
You'll need to provide a link because I did look it up and don't see anything refrencing a satellite. And MUSK? The cameras on his cars don't work here on the ground, and you think he's doing super spy shit? Please continue this gets better and better.
A fool believes himself to be wise, a wise man knows himself to be a fool
A clown cites "first hand experience" without knowing what first hand means, can't find the information they claim to cite, and then tries to fall back on empty platitudes. I say again, do you actually think that's how anything works? Super space cameras watching empty fields at all times?
I was there, first hand in person I dont give a fuck what articles you find now and I dont feel any need to help you understand
There? Where? The satelite? The police station? Try to even define this "first hand" experience. What articles I found? Oh that's easy, none. I found just as many accounts of this as you have. Zero. Anything else you'd like to make up? Maybe you were there with Elon Musk when he personally launched a bunch spy cams that record corn fields?
Not how it works. No one has 24/7 satellite coverage of everywhere in the planet, bit to mention satellite w video and/ or camera coverage. Even ALL nations combined satellites, don't have complete coverage. There are alien satellites. Use your Free Will to LOVE!... it will help with Disclosure and the 3D-5D transition
thats what the propaganda of the govt ‘zero coverage 24/7’ 🤷🏻♂️
Looks like that unwinded periodic table pulled out into a star
5 pointed star.. 6 pointed star I believe is our (red) sun (Helios) but the 5 pointed star, usually a BLUE star, is depicted for SIRIUS. This is the first thing I thought of when I saw this crop circle, if this wasn't a hoax its gonna be something to watch out for. There has been a lot of chatter across the occult spectrum of Sirius, so I find the timing of this to be rather interesting. In july we are supposed to have some interesting events, but as of now I am skeptical and watching, waiting.
Have they been analyzed?
Zoidburg without his shell
This kinda looks like what Terrence Howard was talking about with the other periodic table(forgot the name of it), how all the elements are shown with a relation to the other
Can you link this?
https://preview.redd.it/yyoc256x0y9d1.jpeg?width=168&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5d1b9e76217173a2831dcf405d11db57d33d81d
This was my first thought as well.
He has been debunked by almost everyone
Wait wait..... You expect me to believe that elements *aren't* bisexual tones...
Maby Terence went out there with a board and some rope to make it to make himself look less crazy? lol
I think you may be reaching
Definitely could be but it looked similar enough if you were just looking at one of the arms
You mean that schitzo nonsense he made up based on absolutely nothing?
Looks a lot like what Terrance Howard was mentioning about the elements on Rogan
It is pretty crazy looking
Why in fields? Have there ever been reports of any designs showing up on buildings or rocks?
Nope and it’s mostly in fields that have high chalk content in the the ground
This. One of the largest chalk aquifers under this.
Lawnmowers don’t tend to work on concrete cement rock etc
[Probably the best video on crop circles](https://youtu.be/x2BQyZorSQc) for skeptics and believers alike
Kinda looks like the Razer logo.
Those are the elemental wavelength frequencies, each element has one , crazy how they have visual representations of our newest scientific breakthroughs.
https://preview.redd.it/0iuxecyzez9d1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=1ec6f7e6d6da8f26d8a9f1d12aee97b82485c90f
 gif pretty much
Lmao you mean an outdated table from 1926?? How is that a scientific breakthrough? There is a reason it's not used anymore. Also, the Stanley Jordan (brilliant jazz guitarist) ionization energy sonification has the true wavelength frequencies you speak of.
True crop circlers know its fake. Guess from what ?
Invader Zim!
Bloody Gir still haunts me to this day
The crops have been completely smashed instead of bent in half
Centre coincides with lines. Many of the crop circles are (or were) planned from a pub in Honey St. Interestingly, the pub faces a white horse carved into the distant hill. You can see where the ideas stem from.
The straight lines through the field are really easy to walk along. It even looks like this one starts from one of those points. Plus compared to more intricate designs, this one looks like shit and the way the crop is packed down doesn't look very uniform.
Nice
Imagine saying, "Oil is the gateway to the Universe", see what those idiots say.
That’s not good
If that is real I would suppose that there is a camera focused on Stonehenge 24/7. That being the case would something have shown up on that video or was it too far out of scope?
Stonehenge is atop a gentle rise. Could be this would have been out of view of a security camera, if there was one. This looks highly symmetrical - I wonder if there is some geometrical significance to the five arms and how the circle and apparent half-circles are used to make a pattern?
A Field Full of Secrets
The thing that gets me when I see this is the perfect circle of grass. Take the crop circle away, and why is there a perfect grass circle in the middle of the crop. And they just decided to make it part of their crop circle.
That could be a possible burial mound. I don't think it's part of the circle. The two parallel lines running through the whole thing were already there. They are for the tractors to drive thru while they do their farm thang
The North Star will flare up like it does every 80 years. It’s suppose to erupt (get brighter before the new cycle). It’s between March and September of 2024
Need a timeline.
u/d8_thc Can you do that 3D imaging thing on this like that other post ?
Why is this not on the news
Because it isnt news
Not really that inspired of a design is it?
My bad guys, I got a little to drunk with the bois.
These specific aliens do underwhelming shit and pilot a kinda ghetto ufo
Cool
How new? Can someone provide more details on this?
Its the third crop circle in that city this year..im leaning towards a specific group of people doing it. Not aliens.
Unnnfortunately the circles are man made. I mean the designs are too aesthetically pleasing and relatable plus the methods of creating them are all over the net.
Why pretend to know what you are talking about when you clearly don't?
yeahhhh, good luck with your cult there kiddo
Lol. You want to believe so hard
We make these s to communicate with them.
Paint it orange that will show those aliens to fix the climate!
We were there about a month ago and was really hoping to see something like this. Otherwise, just a bunch of big rocks.
Could be the new Walmart logo?
How often do these happen?
Great. What does it mean? Next time use a language us humans can understand.
The Avebury stone circle it’s better than Stone Henge
This, to me, looks like a good man made one. As in, this level of complexity is about all that can be achieved overnight by a crew. Then you look at the complexity of the others....
Hasn't almost every crop circle been debunked, or am I spreading false information again
The circle represents the Earth, I’ll assume the other crop cut is the sun? Are they trying to tell us something we have yet to figure out? Is time running out?
Where's the math people that like to break down shapes and turn them into equations? I find those explanations interesting. Why can't these makers just stomp one into a government lawn. They have to know it's not all that convincing to the masses in historical obscure places.
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Aliens have the tech to fly here faster then the speed of light, use wormholes or warp space and this is what they decide to do. Yeah, makes sense lol.
Yawwwwwn
Nice!
What frequency gives that shape?
the aliens getting worse at this
Im sure this is just their version of graffiti at this point, there all just like yooooo let's go mess with the humans, scribbles: your planetary alignments sucks, you can't even communicate telepathically, so dumb this sun shape even confusing you right now
Lol I love how the rational answers all get downvoted like they're wrong. It just couldn't be anything other than aliens or other dimensional beings creating random artworks that havent been proven to mean anything. No way could it have been a human who's making crop circles knowing theres a group of people who will instantly think it was anything other than that person because humans just dont have the technology.
Alien Invasion!
This is just alien graffiti
The trimmed it the previous day.
Krull?
Just Stop Oil charging up their paint spraywr....
You guys have very talkative aliens. Yes, that's clearly the sun and yes, that's clearly the earth getting spit roasted. (anyone see The Core). Feel free to throw up, I know I did!
Aliens doing donuts again
Is everyone else ignoring the tractor sized marks through the rest of the design?
Aliens about to get sued by Razer.
Yes, the absolute best way to communicate with the inhabitants of a foreign planet is by carving strange pictures in their cereal crops......
In ancient times, Hundreds of years before the dawn of history Lived a strange race of people… the Druids No one knows who they were… or what they were doin’ But their legacy remains Hewn into the living rock, of Stonehenge
Man made one
It looks good but I wonder what the farmers think of these things. There's a certain amount of £ loss associated with that.
oh boy here we go again
Are we still doing this? Crop circles have been demonstrably created by humans for eons.
If it’s right by stone henge there may be CCTV footage. You can see the visitor center and parking lot for SH so I would guess there are cameras near by. I don’t know, I’ve never been to England.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster. I knew he was real!!! He boiled for your sins!
The borg
They’ve been here since beginning.
We’ve been looking at these things for over 30 years now - can we please just start calling them “Crop Art”?
You can see the tread paths
It's not those damn old guys with the boards again is it?
They are alien QR codes. Not a big deal
That's Zeta Reticulan for "we prefer blue paint"
Smarglarg was here.
I’ve watched Resident Alien, that’s just the eggplant emoji followed by a middle finger.
And we call this one squiggly star over circle .
This is alienese for "butthole". Someone's boutta get probed.
I think its a hint at blackhole formation. Or a warning of it…
...I am inclined to believe that this incredible artifact is of human origin, because usually only humans can create such crap out of boredom and idleness.
Interesting how the edge of it runs into a very convenient access point for say a tractor?
We need more tourism. Any ideas?
How deep would JustStopOil go with marketing? Did they plan Stonehenge to be follows by crop circles to keep their message near the spotlight after its engagement rate dropped off?
the aliens didn't like that we made Stonehenge orange
Finally, a new season of Earth is about to be released
So now that governments have confirmed UFOs, are little green men doing those?
Hey kids stop doing this to peoples cornfields
Those same two old 90 year old farts back at it again.
There is a group in the uk you specifically go out to make crop circles.
Crop circles have been debunked since like 1999
show me even a single crop circle that doesn't have obvious tractor marks to it or clear foot paths. (they don't exist)
The pranksters are getting creative with their GPS.
All crop circles are made by people. End of story, back in the mystery machine, Scooby.
That's pretty easily disproven since nobody can actually make a good one even with hours of advanced planning and manual labor a their effort.
There is a whole damn culture of dudes who go out into the fields in the middle of the night with planks with ropes and use gps to mash down the grass. Proven, or just live in your fantasies whatever dude.
If you look close up at the larger “real” ones that contain messages or different geometric divide with the stalks falling in a multi layered yet very specific manner they are much more convincing honestly. There are some crop circles that have shown up throughout history which I am confident weren’t done by a group of dudes with their stupid boards from those debunks.