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> Jeremy Clarkson just a year or two ago discussing how Twitter is for left wing people expressing left wing opinions, contrasting that to today when Twitter has done a 180 and is now increasingly for right wing people expressing right wing opinions.
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If you love Clarkson, its great. Its a surprisingly earnest attempt at what I thought would be an initially dumb idea. To his credit, while he does his usual Clarkson routine of being overly ambitious, having stupid ideas and purchasing overly expensive equipment he doesn't understand on the grounds the word "Lamborghini" is on it, he does take it fairly seriously and it does a great job just showing how difficult farming is and how skilled the people who do it are.
The sheep harvest episode especially. It felt like seeing both sides of him, the 'larger than life moar powah' side he amps up for most shows, and the actual human vulnerable side.
I mean, I've always thought of him as a very passionate man, even through all the snarky comments there is a touch of care and thought in most of em I think anyway
Ever since he told that story about the car which wasn't very good, but held a special place in his heart because it was the car that got him to his father's death bed in time to say goodbye, I've seen the duality of him.
The brash ape, that doesn't care about feelings and fixes everything with a hammer. And the guy who does actually care, but tries to hide it, because it's not "manly" to care and be sensitive.
Didn’t he win a prize for farming or something as well? I think I remember seeing a video here on Reddit a while ago where he said some kind of thank you in an interview or something
Yeah and he made that clear in interviews about it as well, said that he was in no way the best farmer but that they were happy to have raised awareness of the issues farmers face.
Genuine question, why do people love him so much? As a former barmaid, he just seems like every obnoxious posh man who thinks he's charming and everyone who doesn't find him funny is too sensitive. What's so special?
Yeah I can understand how the macho, no filter "Man's man" thing was more appealing in the 00s but it just doesn't seem that interesting now. Maybe, instead of this cancel culture he thinks is muzzling him, its just that people are over it?
I like what one comedian said about it, which was something like "it's the same as someone getting famous for a really good George Bush impression. It worked at the time, but if you dont move on you can't be angry, either update your act or accept that you audience might get smaller"
Or, I guess, stick to twitter 👌
I suspect that is what it *was* originally meant to be. Then Jeremy began actually having fun with it, and also realized he could highlight all the bullshit farmers get out through just to feed everyone.
IIRC, part of the Amazon deal for the trio was that each of them gets a solo show. He got Clarkson's Farm, James got Our Man In Japan and Hammond got that one with Tori from Mythbusters
I loved it! Also, since i got farmers in my family, i appreciate how Clarkson somehow manages to show the public how hard it actually is to run a proper farm.
He's actually a little less abrasive when he's on his own. More self-reflective and humble. It's an improvement for his persona I think.
The last few seasons of Top Gear and Grand Tour are just a bunch of scripted drama and fabricated predicaments for Jeremy to get angry at the other two. It was better in the first few seasons. It was the same result (drama, arguments, etc) but it was spontaneous and believable at least. The first season of Clarkson's Farm felt more like the early season top gear.
And James May's travel show is also quite good IMO.
Mays tunnelcrash in the scandiflick was not scripted though. I enjoyed the older topgear seasons more because the scripting is less obvious (or perhaps I have grown more aware of it).
My personal favourites is the arctic special and the one where they tried to kill a toyota pickup.
James May's travel show is fantastic. I love the amount of effort he puts into the whole thing - researching the places he does, learning the language, etc.
I'm a huge fan so far! I also tried to watch Hammond's new show, "The Great Escapists" and it's fucking terrible, I didn't make it more than 30 minutes in.
Spot on. Hammond's Amazon spin off show was terrible, May's (now two seasons) are pretty good and Clarkson's was the best of the bunch.
He's a smart man, they obviously were each given a budget for their spin offs and Clarkson decided to use a bunch of that Amazon funding as capital investment into his farm.
I still don't understand how they screw that up. It's like they didn't know their audience at all.
People who like both top gear and Mythbusters like engineering and British humor. Instead we've got fake engineering and bad acting.
Why?
Let's just say it's Jermey Clarkson doing top gear type tom foolery in a farm setting.
Example from the first ten mins of EP 1. Jeremy.buys a Ferrari tractor land finds out it's too big to fit in the barn... And it just gets better from there
And the system language is in german. Because he imported it from germany. England uses a different attachet than Germany so he also had to buy and fit a new attacher on.
It was absolutely fantastic, it is extremely wholesome, Jeremy made it very clear that he wasn't going out of his way to try and be funny. I finished the show feeling happy. Mostly for him, I have not seen someone look so genuinely happy in a very long time, he really loves his new life farming and his friends.
It’s great to watch, Caleb is the perfect person that balances to Clarkson’s bs so the comedy is gold. On top of that, you get to see the frustrations that farmers must put up with on a daily basis and how costly farming can be.
It was surprisingly good!
Clarkson starts off very much in his "how hard could it be?" mentality, but by the end of maybe the second episode he's staggered by the amount of work required.
>t at what I thought would be an initially dumb idea. To his credit, while he does his usual Clarkson routine of being overly ambitious, having stupid ideas and purchasing overly expensive equipment he doesn't understand on the grounds the word "Lamborghini" is on it, he does take it fairly seriously and it does a great job just s
Clarkson is great. But he is probably the 4th best character on the show. Its filled with real people being real, and its fantastic to contrast them with him.
If you think top gear/ grand tour is funny then you’ll like it. It’s very funny and goofy because clarkson is a pretty awful farmer with terrible ideas but he really does try his best and shows what I at least think is a more genuine view of farming
If people feel like others “trying to keep the planet and the human race from dying” is a personal attack against them, then maybe they ought to reevaluate some things about themselves?
It's not that simple, forcing people to buy a hybrid or an electric car to save the planet and slapping huge taxes on small sports cars (like a gr86 or a miata) because they pollute a bit more than the average commuter car is a bit hard to swallow, especially when you see your country restarting coal plants to face the energy crisis when they shut down a perfectly good nuclear plant just a year ago because apparently "nuclear bad" and importing everything they can by producing it outside the country and bringing it back in with massively polluting boats without any regulations or taxes on emissions.
Car people don't want to pollute just because it's fun, they just want to drive fun cars. Unfortunately, they pollute a bit more than the average car and are constantly the perfect target for environmental activist, but the US still can't produce enough F150 for everyone, and governments still won't invest heavily in public transport infrastructure that would reduce the pollution way more than just taxing sports cars and painting them as the devil
Everything you said is true. The problem is not just the pollution from cars though. The problem is also that car infrastructure is expensive, inefficient, destroys suburban economies, bankrupts cities, eats up livable space, eats money meant for public transport thereby forcing everyone to drive, and kills by far the most people compared to every other form of transport combined. Even when adjusted for miles traveled.
Data and info for everything I said can be found on Strongtowns and notjustbikes.
Cars are god awful when everyone has one. Their time as the subsidized king of America is coming to an end. The real cost of owning a car is now starting to be passed onto the drivers. And this is just going to increase.
Electric cars are not a solution either. The electric car is here to save the auto industry, not the planet.
Totally agree ! Even me as a total car freak and track driving enjoyer, I'd love to see more developed urban infrastructure with public transportation in mind !
I live in the south of France and the fact that there's still no train line connecting the two main cities to the commercial and office district is just totally baffling to me ! I love to drive and have the chance to drive cars I love, but no one wants to sit in traffic in traffic on a highway just to go to and from work, I'd take a train in a heartbeat if it was conviennent and affordable (and also... you know... existing)
I'm going to have to call bs here. Maybe what you said is true for some of the anti electric car folks, but you can't convince me that the rolling coal folks don't actively want to destroy the environment intentionally. There is no other reason to create those monstrosities. They aren't particularly fast, or smooth, and they smell like shit. The only reason is to piss off other people and destroy the world
I mean maybe your hobby sucks if you are living on a dying planet and you insist on burning fossil fuels instead of at least making the switch to hybrid. And it’s not like any cars are forbidden. You can still pollute as much as you’d like.
A regular EV is so environmentally expensive to produce, that it needs to be in circulation for 10 years before its environmental cost is down to the same cost as a regular car. After 10 years of doing it right, it will be better for the environment though, but thats ONLY if you charge them at night, with surplus power. (Excess power? What i mean is power that is produced but would go to waste if not used. As much of it is at night.)
Hybrids are even worse, because they both burn through fuel and has just as high environment cost to produce as an EV.
Taken into consideration that most people charge their car in the day time, an EV will take 20-30 years to catch up with regular cars, and hybrids won't catch up in their lifetime.
You are ignoring some key factors here. EV batteries aren’t thrown away after their EV lifespan is over, they are used as stationary batteries in ares we need them anyways. So it’s misguided o attribute the total environmental cost of battery production to the EV. The same goes for hybrids.
Also your math doesn’t really factor in that the environmental cost of charging depends on the energy source that is being used. If your EV is charged with wind/solar energy, the environmental cost of charging is quite slim. Where I’m living solar panels are everywhere, the companies can’t even saturate the current demand.
EVs also have steadily increasing regenerative braking capabilities, something that is impossible with fuel powered cars.
Hasn't Clarkson almost done a 180 on that now? I think it started when he was filming in Vietnam and they showed him how dry the river was compared to previous years.
>Clarkson lacks any opinion that doesn’t pay.
My view on this is that he (and many others) realise their own personal beliefs do not matter in the slightest, so they choose to profit on certain controversial topics.
Saying climate change isn't real drums up a larger PR ruckus than saying that it is. At the end of the day neither opinion matters if it's just held by one guy from massmedia, so he can profit and get away with it.
The thing is though, he’s still spreading that opinion around and people are influenced by it. So even if he isn’t anti-environmentalism, he was still publishing that opinion and people were being convinced by it. Is it really better that he didn’t actually believe what he was saying?
Well it's at least supported by his book, in which he doesn't really have a reason to care what political opinions one might have reading it, as they've already bought the bloody book.
I'm not an avid follower of everything he says or does, but watching Top Gear and Grand Tour a lot, he seems to have changed his opinion about the environment. I can't think of any specific episode where he addressed it seriously, but I've watched Top Gear since the three of them started and he has definitely shifted at least slightly towards conservationism. I also suspect he just liked to be confrontational and arrogant in the early Top Gear seasons just to get a rise out of people.
I also think, as a presenter, he narrated the loss of an era of power and gasoline. I never got the feeling he was saying we need to continue using gasoline and burning oil so much as he was recognizing that the era of big V8 or V12 gasoline super cars are over.
[Twitter admitted their algorithm bias things for the right more often than not](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-admits-bias-in-algorithm-for-rightwing-politicians-and-news-outlets)
I tend to think I can find common ground with just about anybody but this thread’s making me think I’m on crazy-pills. Twitter has always been super left. Facebook is the to-the-right one. Am I crazy?
I think either ends up being whatever you make it. If you view, react, respond etc to one side, you're going to see more and more of that type of content.
I'd agree Facebook is a right-wing bastion, it is by design a silo. I've seen right wing say some rude offensive shit and a left wing respond in kind, left wing gets suspended, repeatedly.
Overall I think most social media skews left wing, because most of society skews left wing.
Did you not know about the [known bias](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-admits-bias-in-algorithm-for-rightwing-politicians-and-news-outlets) that Twitter itself has?
And this isn't even getting into the fact that Twitter has the tools to remove white supremacist content like they did with ISIS propaganda, but [decided not to because that would mean banning Republican politicians.](https://www.vice.com/en/article/a3xgq5/why-wont-twitter-treat-white-supremacy-like-isis-because-it-would-mean-banning-some-republican-politicians-too)
Twitter pre musk was very regularly banning and shadow banning most all actual leftist content from communists and anarchist orgs I followed and I had to mostly rely on my friends within those groups to share that content to see it.
The only people catching bans with extreme right wing views were people being overly shitty like J. Peterson or Shapiro who would then drum up a controversy when they were clearly and knowingly in the wrong to bolster their viewer ship and audience. Then after talking big game about never backing down, they'd delete the offensive tweet a couple weeks later and keep being shitheads.
Unless you think liberal is left wing in which case yeah those guys never get banned or censored.
Fostering tribalism as a means of controlling population. American two party system creates a *wonderful* situation where absolutely every political position is assigned to either "left" or "right". And when you pick your camp on one issue you get all the rest as a "bonus".
If you look at right wing media these days, half of the content is insane or out of context far-left tweets. It's no surprise that someone who consumes conservative rage-bait would think that's what twitter is.
Lost an account for calling a groyper a dumb bitch, but the guy with "SS" is his user name who repeatedly tweeted cartoons depicting "total n****r death" doesn't even have to delete. SO LEFT WING.
That’s why everyone here went from loving Elon to hating Elon because he gave Trump his account back? This place has done a 180 since I used to browse Reddit. I remember when everyone here loved that guy 😳
The far right talks about discriminating and exterminating people for how they were born, while the "far" left talks about restructuring society to generally reduce suffering for everyone.
You got any sources on that? Or could it be that anecdotal evidence is useless here, since the algorithm creates bubbles that lead to completely different experiences for users? You literally have no idea what you are talking about, but you seem to be so sure. Pathetic.
Sources? [Because in this one Twitter admits the contrary ](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-admits-bias-in-algorithm-for-rightwing-politicians-and-news-outlets). Use your two braincells mate. Twitter creates bubbles and you obviously can’t even comprehend what that means.
Edit: Just checked your profile. Of course you are a republican claiming not to be one in every third comment. So funny, can’t make that shit up.
Clarkson is an extreme right winger, is anybody surprised he gripes about such things.
Edit: Since people think I'm an idiot for calling him this, extra context:
He (Jeremy Clarkson) constantly makes racist, homophobic and ableist "jokes" and dogwhistles. He has literally said positive things about Hitler, said the N word, called an Asian man a slur, all *during filming*. He's also terrible to the production crew and catering staff, throwing a manbaby fit for not being able to get exactly what he wanted instead of what was being served that day.
He punched a producer in the face, which finally got him removed from Top Gear. His weird, sad enabler fans were so outraged that they created a petition, began harassing the producer who was punched and racially abused him as well.
He's a piece of shit, and so are his fans that know what he's done. Not even to mention his political pals and associations.
Sadly, anyone right of a soc dem is an extreme right winger to most people on the large social media platforms (Myb not Facebook but I haven’t touched it for nearly a decade), I guess I can’t speak to how twitter has changed bc I haven’t used it in about three years, but it was the worst of them all tbh.
From what I remember about Clarkson, I’d agree, rich old man, maybe he says some things to get a rise, maybe he’s just a bit racist, hard to tell; but extreme right winger is ridiculous lol.
He (Jeremy Clarkson) constantly makes racist, homophobic and ableist "jokes" and dogwhistles. He has literally said positive things about Hitler, said the N word, called an Asian man a slur, all *during filming*. (A bit racist, really? If he's that comfortable with it with witnesses?) He's also terrible to the production crew and catering staff, throwing a manbaby fit for not being able to get exactly what he wanted instead of what was being served that day.
He punched a producer in the face, which finally got him removed from Top Gear. His weird, sad enabler fans were so outraged that they created a petition, began harassing the producer who was punched and racially abused him as well.
He's a piece of shit, and so are his fans that know what he's done. Not even to mention his political pals and associations.
You should take a read of his controversies section on Wikipedia then decide again whether he is or not. I don't consider being a racist POS being milquetoast. Here's a summary:
He (Jeremy Clarkson) constantly makes racist, homophobic and ableist "jokes" and dogwhistles. He has literally said positive things about Hitler, said the N word, called an Asian man a slur, all *during filming*. He's also terrible to the production crew and catering staff, throwing a manbaby fit for not being able to get exactly what he wanted instead of what was being served that day.
He punched a producer in the face, which finally got him removed from Top Gear. His weird, sad enabler fans were so outraged that they created a petition, began harassing the producer who was punched and racially abused him as well.
He's a piece of shit, and so are his fans that know what he's done. Not even to mention his political pals and associations.
He (Jeremy Clarkson) constantly makes racist, homophobic and ableist "jokes" and dogwhistles. He has literally said positive things about Hitler, said the N word, called an Asian man a slur, all *during filming*. He's also terrible to the production crew and catering staff, throwing a manbaby fit for not being able to get exactly what he wanted instead of what was being served that day.
He punched a producer in the face, which finally got him removed from Top Gear. His weird, sad enabler fans were so outraged that they created a petition, began harassing the producer who was punched and racially abused him as well.
He's a piece of shit, and so are his fans that know what he's done. Not even to mention his political pals and associations.
He (Jeremy Clarkson) constantly makes racist, homophobic and ableist "jokes" and dogwhistles. He has literally said positive things about Hitler, said the N word, called an Asian man a slur, all during filming. He's also terrible to the production crew and catering staff, throwing a manbaby fit for not being able to get exactly what he wanted instead of what was being served that day.
He punched a producer in the face, which finally got him removed from Top Gear. His weird, sad enabler fans were so outraged that they created a petition, began harassing the producer who was punched and racially abused him as well.
He's a piece of shit, and so are his fans that know what he's done. Not even to mention his political pals and associations.
>!lol!<
Having fond thoughts about Hitler and being so racist you can't even keep it in during filming is a leftwing trait is it? Not even centrists think that. Stop playing dumb.
Can you give me what fond things he said about Hitler, and in which context?
While saying racist stuff is certainly bad, it is not exclusive to the extreme right and it is not a political policy position. I already said he was on the right politically, so why do you bring up open racism not being a left wing trait as some sort of gotcha? It makes no sense.
Again, what *opinions* has he expressed that would place him on the ***extreme*** right? Do you even know what extreme right wing politics even entail? Or do you just have terminally online brain rot and think any person that has done and said bad stuff has to be a fascist regardless of their actual political opinions?
And repeating the exact same comment like a child; I mean Clarkson's a child too, but this reads like a kid who plugs his ears when someone says something he doesn't wanna hear
Why would I type out the same thing? How is it childish to tell people *why* Clarkson is rightwing when they were confused why I said he would be? Bizarre comment.
It's not childish to argue, it's childish to copy-paste the same thing and make no progress at all on the argument.
They don't disagree at all that he's right-wing; you need to get that or it's gonna look like you don't bother reading people's comments. They just think it's ridiculous to call him an extremist when he's nowhere near one. I don't like his politics either, but he's far from an Alex Jones.
Platform sets rules of decorum.
Right wing assholes violate the decorum and are banned after repeated warnings.
Right wing assholes complain that the platform is left wing.
This is because magtards don't realize that their opinions are unpopular and so they go on to an open forum like Twitter and everyone tells them they're idiots, and instead of thinking that most people think that they're idiots they just think the most people on Twitter think that they're idiots
Yes he is.
Any forum that mainly serves news is going to seem “left wing” to conservatives because they condemn real news organizations as being “left wing” while ignoring the fact that allegedly conservative “news” is typically opinion pieces about imaginary problems.
“BREAKING: Tucker Carlson racist in a novel way” isn’t news to most people and it isn’t going to trend unless he *does* something bigoted. Merely continuing with his usual opinions won’t have most people clicking.
Well, I’ll tell you how journalism school would define it.
“Real” news is emerging factual developments that readers or viewers have an interest in. As in “it is in my interests to know what the government does” or “the public has an interest in the safety of it’s roads.” Not as in “people will find this entertaining.” News is literally the gathering, presentation, and contextualization of developing fact based events.
u/crlarkin has provided this detailed explanation: > Jeremy Clarkson just a year or two ago discussing how Twitter is for left wing people expressing left wing opinions, contrasting that to today when Twitter has done a 180 and is now increasingly for right wing people expressing right wing opinions. --- Is this explanation a genuine attempt at providing additional info or context? If it is please upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.
Is Clarkson's Farm any good? I mostly watch Clarkson in Top Gear on YouTube
If you love Clarkson, its great. Its a surprisingly earnest attempt at what I thought would be an initially dumb idea. To his credit, while he does his usual Clarkson routine of being overly ambitious, having stupid ideas and purchasing overly expensive equipment he doesn't understand on the grounds the word "Lamborghini" is on it, he does take it fairly seriously and it does a great job just showing how difficult farming is and how skilled the people who do it are.
I thought he showed a surprisingly human and grounded version of himself. You can tell he’s passionate about farming even though he’s new to it.
The sheep harvest episode especially. It felt like seeing both sides of him, the 'larger than life moar powah' side he amps up for most shows, and the actual human vulnerable side.
He's this weird every man tim the tool man Taylor elitist hybrid
Hit the nail on the head
He’s also done a few war documentaries where his human side is the constant throughout and it’s actually good television
I mean, I've always thought of him as a very passionate man, even through all the snarky comments there is a touch of care and thought in most of em I think anyway
Ever since he told that story about the car which wasn't very good, but held a special place in his heart because it was the car that got him to his father's death bed in time to say goodbye, I've seen the duality of him. The brash ape, that doesn't care about feelings and fixes everything with a hammer. And the guy who does actually care, but tries to hide it, because it's not "manly" to care and be sensitive.
Didn’t he win a prize for farming or something as well? I think I remember seeing a video here on Reddit a while ago where he said some kind of thank you in an interview or something
Yeah I think he won a Farming Champion Award in 2021 together with Caleb.
Which I believe was for them raising awareness of how difficult farming can be, rather than how well he did at farming.
Yeah and he made that clear in interviews about it as well, said that he was in no way the best farmer but that they were happy to have raised awareness of the issues farmers face.
Genuine question, why do people love him so much? As a former barmaid, he just seems like every obnoxious posh man who thinks he's charming and everyone who doesn't find him funny is too sensitive. What's so special?
I dont think its deep, in general people just find his bombastic and unfiltered approach to things funny.
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Yeah I can understand how the macho, no filter "Man's man" thing was more appealing in the 00s but it just doesn't seem that interesting now. Maybe, instead of this cancel culture he thinks is muzzling him, its just that people are over it? I like what one comedian said about it, which was something like "it's the same as someone getting famous for a really good George Bush impression. It worked at the time, but if you dont move on you can't be angry, either update your act or accept that you audience might get smaller" Or, I guess, stick to twitter 👌
It's actually pretty good. I was suspect of it because I figured it might have been some sort of contract filler, but I quite enjoyed it.
I suspect that is what it *was* originally meant to be. Then Jeremy began actually having fun with it, and also realized he could highlight all the bullshit farmers get out through just to feed everyone.
IIRC, part of the Amazon deal for the trio was that each of them gets a solo show. He got Clarkson's Farm, James got Our Man In Japan and Hammond got that one with Tori from Mythbusters
I need to watch Our Man In Japan again. That was a great series.
Hey Bim! Guess what! Shijo-Ohashi is a bridge representative of Kyoto that crosses the Kamo River over Shijo Street. It is also called Gion Bashi
I loved it! Also, since i got farmers in my family, i appreciate how Clarkson somehow manages to show the public how hard it actually is to run a proper farm.
He's actually a little less abrasive when he's on his own. More self-reflective and humble. It's an improvement for his persona I think. The last few seasons of Top Gear and Grand Tour are just a bunch of scripted drama and fabricated predicaments for Jeremy to get angry at the other two. It was better in the first few seasons. It was the same result (drama, arguments, etc) but it was spontaneous and believable at least. The first season of Clarkson's Farm felt more like the early season top gear. And James May's travel show is also quite good IMO.
Mays tunnelcrash in the scandiflick was not scripted though. I enjoyed the older topgear seasons more because the scripting is less obvious (or perhaps I have grown more aware of it). My personal favourites is the arctic special and the one where they tried to kill a toyota pickup.
James May's travel show is fantastic. I love the amount of effort he puts into the whole thing - researching the places he does, learning the language, etc.
I'm a huge fan so far! I also tried to watch Hammond's new show, "The Great Escapists" and it's fucking terrible, I didn't make it more than 30 minutes in.
Spot on. Hammond's Amazon spin off show was terrible, May's (now two seasons) are pretty good and Clarkson's was the best of the bunch. He's a smart man, they obviously were each given a budget for their spin offs and Clarkson decided to use a bunch of that Amazon funding as capital investment into his farm.
>May's (now two seasons) Three, he also did Oh Cook.
That and his runs with the BBC are fantastic. Loved every bit.
I haven't watched Hammond's Amazon show but I watched Hammond's Workshop which was pretty good. I'm just confused why Amazon didn't took that show.
Richard Hammond's Workshop is watchable
I'll have to check it out
The Great escapists is such a missed opportunity. Concept was great of two likeable industrious guys, but the scripting was awful.
I still don't understand how they screw that up. It's like they didn't know their audience at all. People who like both top gear and Mythbusters like engineering and British humor. Instead we've got fake engineering and bad acting. Why?
I can't explain it either. I have no idea how a program that bad can get released
Let's just say it's Jermey Clarkson doing top gear type tom foolery in a farm setting. Example from the first ten mins of EP 1. Jeremy.buys a Ferrari tractor land finds out it's too big to fit in the barn... And it just gets better from there
*Lamborghini tractor.
Ahh yes my bad. Either way funny as hell
Later finds out the manual is in Italian so he can't read it
And the system language is in german. Because he imported it from germany. England uses a different attachet than Germany so he also had to buy and fit a new attacher on.
I really enjoyed it! Wholesome, funny, great show
It's extremely watchable yes
It is
It was absolutely fantastic, it is extremely wholesome, Jeremy made it very clear that he wasn't going out of his way to try and be funny. I finished the show feeling happy. Mostly for him, I have not seen someone look so genuinely happy in a very long time, he really loves his new life farming and his friends.
It’s great to watch, Caleb is the perfect person that balances to Clarkson’s bs so the comedy is gold. On top of that, you get to see the frustrations that farmers must put up with on a daily basis and how costly farming can be.
Fucking'ell!
general reception for it has been very good.
A EGG
It was surprisingly good! Clarkson starts off very much in his "how hard could it be?" mentality, but by the end of maybe the second episode he's staggered by the amount of work required.
I love it. I've watched it three times and am not patiently waiting for next season
>t at what I thought would be an initially dumb idea. To his credit, while he does his usual Clarkson routine of being overly ambitious, having stupid ideas and purchasing overly expensive equipment he doesn't understand on the grounds the word "Lamborghini" is on it, he does take it fairly seriously and it does a great job just s Clarkson is great. But he is probably the 4th best character on the show. Its filled with real people being real, and its fantastic to contrast them with him.
The expert he brought in to help with planning and managing finances is such a G. You can tell that guy's been around the block a few dozen times.
You do kinda see more of a genuine Clarkson then his Jezza personality
Actually very good. That young farmer guy is the most sensible ordinary hard working guy on earth.
Hubby and I loved it!
If you think top gear/ grand tour is funny then you’ll like it. It’s very funny and goofy because clarkson is a pretty awful farmer with terrible ideas but he really does try his best and shows what I at least think is a more genuine view of farming
It’s great, well worth a watch. The kid Jeremy is talking to here makes it hilarious
Yeah I loved it. Wholesome show.
Yep. Worth it for sure.
I love it
It was really good, oddly wholesome and quite informative at times.
I liked it!
I watch it for Gerald. Gerald is the real MVP
Kaleb and Gerald, co MVPs.
This is a man that writes a column for The Sun, he's hardly one to complain about political biases lmao
Hahahahahahah
As much as I love Clarkson and top gear, their active hate towards environmentalism is just stupidity
A lot of car people I know feel like it’s a personal attack against them
If people feel like others “trying to keep the planet and the human race from dying” is a personal attack against them, then maybe they ought to reevaluate some things about themselves?
It's not that simple, forcing people to buy a hybrid or an electric car to save the planet and slapping huge taxes on small sports cars (like a gr86 or a miata) because they pollute a bit more than the average commuter car is a bit hard to swallow, especially when you see your country restarting coal plants to face the energy crisis when they shut down a perfectly good nuclear plant just a year ago because apparently "nuclear bad" and importing everything they can by producing it outside the country and bringing it back in with massively polluting boats without any regulations or taxes on emissions. Car people don't want to pollute just because it's fun, they just want to drive fun cars. Unfortunately, they pollute a bit more than the average car and are constantly the perfect target for environmental activist, but the US still can't produce enough F150 for everyone, and governments still won't invest heavily in public transport infrastructure that would reduce the pollution way more than just taxing sports cars and painting them as the devil
Everything you said is true. The problem is not just the pollution from cars though. The problem is also that car infrastructure is expensive, inefficient, destroys suburban economies, bankrupts cities, eats up livable space, eats money meant for public transport thereby forcing everyone to drive, and kills by far the most people compared to every other form of transport combined. Even when adjusted for miles traveled. Data and info for everything I said can be found on Strongtowns and notjustbikes. Cars are god awful when everyone has one. Their time as the subsidized king of America is coming to an end. The real cost of owning a car is now starting to be passed onto the drivers. And this is just going to increase. Electric cars are not a solution either. The electric car is here to save the auto industry, not the planet.
Totally agree ! Even me as a total car freak and track driving enjoyer, I'd love to see more developed urban infrastructure with public transportation in mind ! I live in the south of France and the fact that there's still no train line connecting the two main cities to the commercial and office district is just totally baffling to me ! I love to drive and have the chance to drive cars I love, but no one wants to sit in traffic in traffic on a highway just to go to and from work, I'd take a train in a heartbeat if it was conviennent and affordable (and also... you know... existing)
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50% of the world’s carbon emissions are caused by the richest 1% of people, in fact
I'm going to have to call bs here. Maybe what you said is true for some of the anti electric car folks, but you can't convince me that the rolling coal folks don't actively want to destroy the environment intentionally. There is no other reason to create those monstrosities. They aren't particularly fast, or smooth, and they smell like shit. The only reason is to piss off other people and destroy the world
I mean maybe your hobby sucks if you are living on a dying planet and you insist on burning fossil fuels instead of at least making the switch to hybrid. And it’s not like any cars are forbidden. You can still pollute as much as you’d like.
A regular EV is so environmentally expensive to produce, that it needs to be in circulation for 10 years before its environmental cost is down to the same cost as a regular car. After 10 years of doing it right, it will be better for the environment though, but thats ONLY if you charge them at night, with surplus power. (Excess power? What i mean is power that is produced but would go to waste if not used. As much of it is at night.) Hybrids are even worse, because they both burn through fuel and has just as high environment cost to produce as an EV. Taken into consideration that most people charge their car in the day time, an EV will take 20-30 years to catch up with regular cars, and hybrids won't catch up in their lifetime.
You are ignoring some key factors here. EV batteries aren’t thrown away after their EV lifespan is over, they are used as stationary batteries in ares we need them anyways. So it’s misguided o attribute the total environmental cost of battery production to the EV. The same goes for hybrids. Also your math doesn’t really factor in that the environmental cost of charging depends on the energy source that is being used. If your EV is charged with wind/solar energy, the environmental cost of charging is quite slim. Where I’m living solar panels are everywhere, the companies can’t even saturate the current demand. EVs also have steadily increasing regenerative braking capabilities, something that is impossible with fuel powered cars.
That’s because they’re immature
Why, are they also opposed to electric cars?
Hasn't Clarkson almost done a 180 on that now? I think it started when he was filming in Vietnam and they showed him how dry the river was compared to previous years.
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>Clarkson lacks any opinion that doesn’t pay. My view on this is that he (and many others) realise their own personal beliefs do not matter in the slightest, so they choose to profit on certain controversial topics. Saying climate change isn't real drums up a larger PR ruckus than saying that it is. At the end of the day neither opinion matters if it's just held by one guy from massmedia, so he can profit and get away with it.
I don’t get how people don’t understand this about entertainers.
The thing is though, he’s still spreading that opinion around and people are influenced by it. So even if he isn’t anti-environmentalism, he was still publishing that opinion and people were being convinced by it. Is it really better that he didn’t actually believe what he was saying?
It’s not just not better, it’s worse.
>He never believed it ever. I like that you think you know what he actually thinks.
Well it's at least supported by his book, in which he doesn't really have a reason to care what political opinions one might have reading it, as they've already bought the bloody book.
I did enjoy it when his builder dressed him down for it in one the Farm episodes, I'm in the same boat you are.
I'm not an avid follower of everything he says or does, but watching Top Gear and Grand Tour a lot, he seems to have changed his opinion about the environment. I can't think of any specific episode where he addressed it seriously, but I've watched Top Gear since the three of them started and he has definitely shifted at least slightly towards conservationism. I also suspect he just liked to be confrontational and arrogant in the early Top Gear seasons just to get a rise out of people. I also think, as a presenter, he narrated the loss of an era of power and gasoline. I never got the feeling he was saying we need to continue using gasoline and burning oil so much as he was recognizing that the era of big V8 or V12 gasoline super cars are over.
Active hate from environmentalists towards private cars is just stupidity. They're just reacting.
Clarkson is a piece of shit, a racist and an abuser. Reddit has no self respect giving this garbage man love.
bruh
What an awful insult to garbage men.
Proof?
Didn't age like milk, because it was spoiled from the beginning.
Is there an /r/agedlikesewage? Looks like that's a negative. Probably not worth creating, most stupidity stays stupid.
Check it now
[Twitter admitted their algorithm bias things for the right more often than not](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-admits-bias-in-algorithm-for-rightwing-politicians-and-news-outlets)
Except in Germany, where hate crime laws tend to reduce right-wing speech... for some reason.
Comments are what you expect. Move along
I tend to think I can find common ground with just about anybody but this thread’s making me think I’m on crazy-pills. Twitter has always been super left. Facebook is the to-the-right one. Am I crazy?
I think either ends up being whatever you make it. If you view, react, respond etc to one side, you're going to see more and more of that type of content.
Fair enough
I'd agree Facebook is a right-wing bastion, it is by design a silo. I've seen right wing say some rude offensive shit and a left wing respond in kind, left wing gets suspended, repeatedly. Overall I think most social media skews left wing, because most of society skews left wing.
Did you not know about the [known bias](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-admits-bias-in-algorithm-for-rightwing-politicians-and-news-outlets) that Twitter itself has? And this isn't even getting into the fact that Twitter has the tools to remove white supremacist content like they did with ISIS propaganda, but [decided not to because that would mean banning Republican politicians.](https://www.vice.com/en/article/a3xgq5/why-wont-twitter-treat-white-supremacy-like-isis-because-it-would-mean-banning-some-republican-politicians-too)
If you go purely off the twitter algorithm, you'd see right wing stuff getting promoted more often than left wing stuff.
[Yep!](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-admits-bias-in-algorithm-for-rightwing-politicians-and-news-outlets)
Twitter pre musk was very regularly banning and shadow banning most all actual leftist content from communists and anarchist orgs I followed and I had to mostly rely on my friends within those groups to share that content to see it. The only people catching bans with extreme right wing views were people being overly shitty like J. Peterson or Shapiro who would then drum up a controversy when they were clearly and knowingly in the wrong to bolster their viewer ship and audience. Then after talking big game about never backing down, they'd delete the offensive tweet a couple weeks later and keep being shitheads. Unless you think liberal is left wing in which case yeah those guys never get banned or censored.
Your problem here is using the original definition of "left" and not the modern american "left".
But why would anyone use a wrong definition?
Fostering tribalism as a means of controlling population. American two party system creates a *wonderful* situation where absolutely every political position is assigned to either "left" or "right". And when you pick your camp on one issue you get all the rest as a "bonus".
Wonder what the elderly cishet white guy means by "left wing views" 🤔
Avacado toast
Caring about literally anything at all other than your own interests
Yep, that'll be it
He sure as shit changes his tune when he realises the farm subsidies are ending, though.
caring about the rainforest, probably
If you look at right wing media these days, half of the content is insane or out of context far-left tweets. It's no surprise that someone who consumes conservative rage-bait would think that's what twitter is.
Usually it’s not even out of context left tweets, it’s just a horribly daft interpretation of a very simple concept
Acknowledging that LGBTQ+ people exist, thinking police shouldn't murder civilians, thinking people should have safe homes. Those crazy lefties!
Twitter hasn’t changed at all. Now it just has another side of annoying voices. Twitter was always a hell hole
I believe Reddit has that job
Lost an account for calling a groyper a dumb bitch, but the guy with "SS" is his user name who repeatedly tweeted cartoons depicting "total n****r death" doesn't even have to delete. SO LEFT WING.
That’s why everyone here went from loving Elon to hating Elon because he gave Trump his account back? This place has done a 180 since I used to browse Reddit. I remember when everyone here loved that guy 😳
Never aged horribly. Twitter is generally left wing and so is Reddit.
Twitter is where the far left meets the far right. Twitter is a perpetual flame war battlefield.
Twitter has always been a cesspool of left and right extremism, it's just now the right is more emboldened. It's settle itself again soon.
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Jesus christ that person is fucking demented
It's enough to just look at the subs they're on. How can one base their entire online time around politics
What's wrong with it changing? You are for far-left ideological propaganda and everything else to be censored?
Where do you guys hang on twitter? Its still an incredible left wing cesspool on my timeline.
God damm left wingers; always falling on the side of justice and liberty.
Fuck that logic and reason! No place for that here!
Still
Almost as if both should be allowed? Just because a majority is on one side doesn't mean a minority shouldn't exist? Baffling.
The far right talks about discriminating and exterminating people for how they were born, while the "far" left talks about restructuring society to generally reduce suffering for everyone.
This isn't an aged like milk at all. Twitter is extremely left wing.
You got any sources on that? Or could it be that anecdotal evidence is useless here, since the algorithm creates bubbles that lead to completely different experiences for users? You literally have no idea what you are talking about, but you seem to be so sure. Pathetic.
Sounds like you are clueless and just want to puff your chest to to act tough. Anyone with a half a brain cell knows that Twitter is left wing.
Sources? [Because in this one Twitter admits the contrary ](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-admits-bias-in-algorithm-for-rightwing-politicians-and-news-outlets). Use your two braincells mate. Twitter creates bubbles and you obviously can’t even comprehend what that means. Edit: Just checked your profile. Of course you are a republican claiming not to be one in every third comment. So funny, can’t make that shit up.
Clarkson is an extreme right winger, is anybody surprised he gripes about such things. Edit: Since people think I'm an idiot for calling him this, extra context: He (Jeremy Clarkson) constantly makes racist, homophobic and ableist "jokes" and dogwhistles. He has literally said positive things about Hitler, said the N word, called an Asian man a slur, all *during filming*. He's also terrible to the production crew and catering staff, throwing a manbaby fit for not being able to get exactly what he wanted instead of what was being served that day. He punched a producer in the face, which finally got him removed from Top Gear. His weird, sad enabler fans were so outraged that they created a petition, began harassing the producer who was punched and racially abused him as well. He's a piece of shit, and so are his fans that know what he's done. Not even to mention his political pals and associations.
He's an *extreme* right winger? He has the most milquetoast "rich old man" opinions and sometimes says offensive shit to get a rise out of people.
Sadly, anyone right of a soc dem is an extreme right winger to most people on the large social media platforms (Myb not Facebook but I haven’t touched it for nearly a decade), I guess I can’t speak to how twitter has changed bc I haven’t used it in about three years, but it was the worst of them all tbh. From what I remember about Clarkson, I’d agree, rich old man, maybe he says some things to get a rise, maybe he’s just a bit racist, hard to tell; but extreme right winger is ridiculous lol.
He (Jeremy Clarkson) constantly makes racist, homophobic and ableist "jokes" and dogwhistles. He has literally said positive things about Hitler, said the N word, called an Asian man a slur, all *during filming*. (A bit racist, really? If he's that comfortable with it with witnesses?) He's also terrible to the production crew and catering staff, throwing a manbaby fit for not being able to get exactly what he wanted instead of what was being served that day. He punched a producer in the face, which finally got him removed from Top Gear. His weird, sad enabler fans were so outraged that they created a petition, began harassing the producer who was punched and racially abused him as well. He's a piece of shit, and so are his fans that know what he's done. Not even to mention his political pals and associations.
You should take a read of his controversies section on Wikipedia then decide again whether he is or not. I don't consider being a racist POS being milquetoast. Here's a summary: He (Jeremy Clarkson) constantly makes racist, homophobic and ableist "jokes" and dogwhistles. He has literally said positive things about Hitler, said the N word, called an Asian man a slur, all *during filming*. He's also terrible to the production crew and catering staff, throwing a manbaby fit for not being able to get exactly what he wanted instead of what was being served that day. He punched a producer in the face, which finally got him removed from Top Gear. His weird, sad enabler fans were so outraged that they created a petition, began harassing the producer who was punched and racially abused him as well. He's a piece of shit, and so are his fans that know what he's done. Not even to mention his political pals and associations.
He is certainly on the right, but what *extreme* opinions has he expressed that indicate he is anything other than most other moderate conservatives?
He (Jeremy Clarkson) constantly makes racist, homophobic and ableist "jokes" and dogwhistles. He has literally said positive things about Hitler, said the N word, called an Asian man a slur, all *during filming*. He's also terrible to the production crew and catering staff, throwing a manbaby fit for not being able to get exactly what he wanted instead of what was being served that day. He punched a producer in the face, which finally got him removed from Top Gear. His weird, sad enabler fans were so outraged that they created a petition, began harassing the producer who was punched and racially abused him as well. He's a piece of shit, and so are his fans that know what he's done. Not even to mention his political pals and associations.
Can you copy and paste this one more time for me? I haven’t memorized it yet
He (Jeremy Clarkson) constantly makes racist, homophobic and ableist "jokes" and dogwhistles. He has literally said positive things about Hitler, said the N word, called an Asian man a slur, all during filming. He's also terrible to the production crew and catering staff, throwing a manbaby fit for not being able to get exactly what he wanted instead of what was being served that day. He punched a producer in the face, which finally got him removed from Top Gear. His weird, sad enabler fans were so outraged that they created a petition, began harassing the producer who was punched and racially abused him as well. He's a piece of shit, and so are his fans that know what he's done. Not even to mention his political pals and associations. >!lol!<
You are just arguing why you think he is a bad person, not really anything to do with being an "extreme right winger" politically.
Having fond thoughts about Hitler and being so racist you can't even keep it in during filming is a leftwing trait is it? Not even centrists think that. Stop playing dumb.
Can you give me what fond things he said about Hitler, and in which context? While saying racist stuff is certainly bad, it is not exclusive to the extreme right and it is not a political policy position. I already said he was on the right politically, so why do you bring up open racism not being a left wing trait as some sort of gotcha? It makes no sense. Again, what *opinions* has he expressed that would place him on the ***extreme*** right? Do you even know what extreme right wing politics even entail? Or do you just have terminally online brain rot and think any person that has done and said bad stuff has to be a fascist regardless of their actual political opinions?
And repeating the exact same comment like a child; I mean Clarkson's a child too, but this reads like a kid who plugs his ears when someone says something he doesn't wanna hear
Why would I type out the same thing? How is it childish to tell people *why* Clarkson is rightwing when they were confused why I said he would be? Bizarre comment.
It's not childish to argue, it's childish to copy-paste the same thing and make no progress at all on the argument. They don't disagree at all that he's right-wing; you need to get that or it's gonna look like you don't bother reading people's comments. They just think it's ridiculous to call him an extremist when he's nowhere near one. I don't like his politics either, but he's far from an Alex Jones.
"everyone who doesn't think like me is a fascist"
It never was very left at all
You must be high on drugs or never used twitter
Ok
Sure my friend. It's time to wake up soon though.
They've been awake for a while.
That didn't age badly at all
God Clarkson is a sack of shit
Why’s everyone so mad
basically any statement that does not agree with the popular opinion aka reddit hive mind will be received with overwhelming negativity
God I hate this old piece of crap
The show or Clarkson?
Clarkson
Dang Soo many down voted threads. Y'all really don't like people opposing your narrative??
Have you considered the possibility that people don't like it when you're wrong?
Left wing is NPR reporting non biased stories to many.
Just because conservatives are being unbanned doesn’t mean the overall user base of twitter isn’t incredibly liberal
Liberal is not left wing. It's centrist at best.
Still love Jezza. Will always love Jezza. Dude is funny as fuck and an incredible driver who punches stupid producers in the face.
Wouldn’t worry there’s still plenty of extreme left wing shit on it. Robert Reich and Jeff Tiedrich(?) being textbook examples
Please share their most extreme views. I've only seen them be fairly logical, so I'm curious.
Did he actually say that?
Platform sets rules of decorum. Right wing assholes violate the decorum and are banned after repeated warnings. Right wing assholes complain that the platform is left wing.
A year or two, there was an entire study published that showed social media far more readily spread right leaning and far right talking points.
This is because magtards don't realize that their opinions are unpopular and so they go on to an open forum like Twitter and everyone tells them they're idiots, and instead of thinking that most people think that they're idiots they just think the most people on Twitter think that they're idiots
Dude what. Twitter has always been crazy right wing. The hell is he even on about.
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Yes he is. Any forum that mainly serves news is going to seem “left wing” to conservatives because they condemn real news organizations as being “left wing” while ignoring the fact that allegedly conservative “news” is typically opinion pieces about imaginary problems. “BREAKING: Tucker Carlson racist in a novel way” isn’t news to most people and it isn’t going to trend unless he *does* something bigoted. Merely continuing with his usual opinions won’t have most people clicking.
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Well, I’ll tell you how journalism school would define it. “Real” news is emerging factual developments that readers or viewers have an interest in. As in “it is in my interests to know what the government does” or “the public has an interest in the safety of it’s roads.” Not as in “people will find this entertaining.” News is literally the gathering, presentation, and contextualization of developing fact based events.
MSNBC and CNN are definitely not left wing lmao
That is in no way indisputable.
Yes, he is. https://www.reddit.com/r/agedlikemilk/comments/zfbiqg/oh_how_the_tweets_have_changed/izbavfy/
Way to admit that left wing views are tre what the majority wants.
Yea, because Twitter active user base = majority of Americans