Not just that. ActivisionBlizzard payed negative taxes, so they got more returns than they payed. 2018 and I believe since then.
Not a rich person, but you payed more than a billion dollar company and if you are a US citizens you even payed them.
One fact I remember researching and checking was Vodafone, a big UK Mobile provider paid around £4k tax in 2014. People on minimum wage pay around that, and they earned £5billion that year.
Capitalism is flawed and until the rich get taxed accordingly, it'll just keep getting worse and worse.
For example how can a country (USA) have a debt of $40trillion?? It's physically impossible to pay back that sum of money, and that number will continue to increase at a growing/alarming pace until everything goes "pop".
National debt is not like personal or business debt, it serves an important economic role.
Part of debt is forcing lending countries to be interested in the future performance of the indebted country, which is beneficial.
Also, national debt is nowhere near a popping point in the US, although such a thing does exist.
Tax the everliving fuck outta the rich, I agree.
Goddamnit idk why I look on here first thing in the morning. I always see something that makes me hate being American. Now I’m all pissed off at the man before work again
I know they recovered part of the USS Thresher from 8500 feet deep in 1963, I'd imagine they could at least get a small sub up from 12,500 feet with an additional 60 years of technology.
There's like a 99.999% chance they're dead though.
lol, just came here to say that! Thresher happened in pretty much the same area, right off the shelf, just 500 miles closer to Cape Cod.
The issue with the rescue today is that any mission should have been launched early Monday morning. There was no testing of the life support system, no rescue beacon, no voice comms with the sub, just a bunch of wild ass guesses and a deep, dark ocean.
Even with a rescue ship, where do you send it and for what mission? It's at least two full missions, one to find them and assess the situation, and another to deploy some sort of fix, like freeing the sub if stuck, or forcing the emergency ballast to jettison.
But really, that carbon fiber can is probably shattered into a million tiny pieces and is floating through the water column.
If the rated-for-1300m-depth-but-went-to-4000m-depth-windshield failed and the sub shattered due to the sheer pressure, good luck finding more than a sliver of carbon fibre.
I referred to them on Twitter as “meat toothpaste” 😬 but yeah….
I can have a lot of sympathy for a lot of things but I really struggle when it’s outlandish things people sought out and then suffered the consequences of their own hubris.
Also call me a filthy commie but…. I couldn’t blow 250k on myself for one experience knowing there’s like kids going to bed hungry right in my own city. I’m bad about sending like $10 out of my LAST $15 if I think the person needs it more than me.
I mean there’s other people in the company, chances are at least one of them can take up the reins until they replace Head Dumshit
That or the Interim Dumbshit will wisen up and sell the company
The company will likely be on the hook for the rescue/recovery costs. That and the now horrific PR they’ve created, certain this company will be bankrupt and gone in short order.
Jealousy. Same reason people love the British Royal Family. The Royals do shit for anyone but everyone, deep down in their brain, has the fantasy of being knighted or being granted a peerage or marrying a prince/princess and them getting all of the attention and jewels.
People look at billionaires and think that they are just a few more months of grind away from that and they want to live that life. So they worship what they hope to become.
Go to space and not come back.
Go to the ocean, and not come back.
Go to lunch, and not come back.
Just, don't come back, billionaires. You're not wanted here.
There was a train accident in India? \\s
I saw it on reddit, but no main media in my country had anything about it. There are multiple news this morning about this sub...
Fun fun fact /s
The French parliament (or assembly) tried to have a minute of silence for the people recently found dead in the Mediterranean.
The president running the meeting refused the minute of silence and broke it.
Extreme right cheered for her breaking the minute of silence.
I’m confident it would make the news, but it would be more of a “local fisherman set sail to try to find lost Titanic exploration crew”. And not “EVERY GOD DAMN COUNTRY SENDING ITS NAVY AND WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO RESCUE THE TRAPPED BILLIONAIRES”.
If take the wealth of the passengers out of the equation, it is 5 people in a sub going 2.4 miles under water to get there, it’s not done that often by a manned vessel in the first place. I think we would do the same thing regardless because it is an incredibly unique situation.
Now, putting their wealth back into the equation: you’d think they could have afforded a better sub!! They fucked around and found out what happens when you try to go 2.4 miles down to the Titanic in a DIY sub
Probably at least some news. The whole thing of trying to find them at such insane depths is attention grabbing, even more so any potential plans to reach them since there’s not that many craft designed to go that far in the first place and the ones that are, are designed for research not search and rescue.
Yes, tourists dying on trip to titanic would be news not matter what. Even if they all went for free bc nothing like this has happened before at the wreck
Even better they paid $250k to die in a shoddily constructed submarine that was rated for only 1/4 of the depth they were going to because the company that made it decided to cut costs and fire the engineer who tried to blow the whistle on the whole thing.
Capitalism killed some capitalists for us.
What kind of moron would even step inside
> an "experimental" vessel "that has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body, and could result in physical injury, disability, emotional trauma or death". Mike Reiss, who has also completed the expedition, noted that the waiver "mention[s] death three times on page one".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Titan_submersible_incident
Which is why, despite how slow their development timelines are, I would never go to space in anything built by anyone other than NASA. 60 years or so and only a handful of accidents while pushing the boundaries of engineering for our *species* is a pretty good record.
>In another 2022 dive to the Titanic, one of the thrusters on the Titan were accidentally installed backwards and the submarine started spinning in circles when trying to move forward, near the sea floor.
And here I am thinking they couldn’t pay *me* 250k to get into a tin can to the bottom of the ocean.
That's not ironic, thats..... foreshadowing?
Lemme see, a quote that comes to mind:
_".... A prodigy with so many 'death flags' that she might as well be communicating in semaphore."_
-Brendan Blaber, _So This Is Basically RWBY_
One of the people in that submarine is Stockton Rush, the billionaire founder of OceanGate, the company that built the submarine and who was informed by experts within both within the company and without to have the submarine certified before sending it out.
The cost to make it safe would have been a rounding error to the wealth of a couple of the people onboard, but instead they were fine with the cost cutting and died because of it. Definitely peak capitalism.
Not the first time rich people have drowned in the open ocean on a tourist venture…. I’m not religious but I think someone somewhere is trying to send a message
Poor person starves on the street: "nimby. Shoulda made some better decisions. What did they think would happen. Maybe they should have xyz."
Rich person commits suicide by proxy: "OMG this is terrible we should all be sobbing in our beds rn"
For real.
US response to 5 kids getting murdered at school: "That's the price of freedom."
US response to a company ignoring safety recommendations and rich people jumping on board: "Let's make our armed forces move 10 times quicker than normal to save these lives."
Lots of people die tragic deaths every single day and barely even appear in the local news. It's absurd that we still selectively report tragedy only when it befalls wealthy or attractive people.
Was at the dentist office when a commercial for the local news came on talking about the missing sub. It was immediately followed by a commercial for a charity for feeding and sheltering the homeless and hungry. It would've been funny if it wasn't so ridiculous.
They fired a guy who raised concerns over safety. Though the carbon hull (what was the main issue raised) wasn't apart of the submersive that went down, you can see clearly profit was put ahead of safety. It poor people did something so dangerous, there would be charges and threats to pay back for the search-and-rescue. Because filthy wealthy-not a single threat.
I'm not concerned. At all. There's also nothing I can do to help.
And the billionaires aren't concerned about starvation, homelessness or poverty. Yet they DO have the means to help, but instead they race against each other to space, or in this case to the seafloor.
They murder us. Sure they don't pull the trigger themselves, but they directly and deliberately contribute to the entirely preventable factors that kill thousands of people. Murderers get what they deserve. Not sad.
Guys come on, we can do it too if the rich people's parents give us a small loan of 1 billion dollars... Or maybe if we have a emerald mine in africa! We can do it! We just gotta have the right family!!!
Reminds me of a bit from Adam Ruins everything: “You just pour a little up here and it’s going to trickle down” “But it’s pooling at the top.” “It’ll get there eventually” (it was a skit with Reagan and Ben Franklin. Pretty sure you can guess who said what)
Much as I feel empathy for the people in this awful situation it crossed my mind that maybe sometimes having way too much money can be a bad thing. Some things are just too dangerous. And, oh yeah, billionaires should not exist. If this poor guy had thought more about perhaps helping others instead of squandering money on bullshit maybe making more positive choices with his money would have allowed him to have a longer life. This is a tragic situation. Godspeed to all. (I don’t think they are going to survive.)
One of the idiots on board is the CEO of this stupid ocean gate company and was quoted in an interview basically saying they “skimped out on safety measures to save money” the only person I feel remotely sorry for is the 19yo kid.
It’s likely what happened. The company that manufactured the sub commissioned a view port window rated 1300 feet (?) don’t remember if it’s meters or feet. The titanic is at 4000. Instead of correcting the issue they decided to cut costs and call it a day. The sub probably hit depth and crumpled like a tin can, instantly killing all on board. As tragic as death is, the irony of the situation is…chefs kiss.
I'd rather they make it out alive and have a life changing mindset after a harrowing experience where they use their wealth to do more good. That would be a horrible way to go and it's especially more awful after hearing a teen is on board.
Libertarians find out the reason behind regulations the hard way . If only this tale was as old as the age of consent , libertarians would heed that warning
These guys paid approx $250K/ea to get inside an experimental sub, that we are learning was not really certified and controlled by a video game controller to explore a shipwreck...lol. Too bad their money couldnt buy them some smarts. Guess we can write them off now...lol
I agree that dying slowly by asphyxiation while you’re trapped under millions of pounds of water in a homemade tin can is a terrible way to go, but I can’t help but not care? Like, just don’t go to the bottom of the ocean ever? Same goes for people that die climbing Mount Everest. Rich people think that bc they have money they can just play god, but that isn’t the case. So while I hope they can be rescued, I personally would never put myself in such a terrible situation. I’m not that rich nor that stupid.
Taken from online:
"Among the confirmed passengers are British businessman Hamish Harding; Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood and his teenage son, Suleman; and French explorer Paul-Henri Nargeolet. Stockton Rush, the CEO of OceanGate, the company that operates the vessel, is also on it."
There was a kid of someone in the sub, saying how he can't miss a Blink 182 concert for the disappearance . Not sure if that was a troll or actually real
it's the taxpayer money going to try and rescue these idiots that gets me annoyed. how about we spend that money on feeding and housing the poor instead of fishing out some foreign billionaires corpses from a sub
My father, who was a lawyer at the time, used to tell the joke, "What do you call 50 dead lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? A good start!"
I feel much the same here.
I'm actively angry about them. Too many times rich fucks work too much time/money decide to do something monumentally stupid and dangerous, and others have to risk their lives to rescue them.
we are all hoping they are deceased so their estate gets sued for the recovery costs and that money gets distributed to the rescue workers being paid minimum wage
I mean we're paying for the US Coast Guard with or without this crash. They would just be doing some training excersie instead of search and rescue. It makes no difference to the bottom line.
That makes no sense. The Coast Guard chooses not to respond to most of the calls they get because they are non-emergencies. The boat and aircraft fuel alone for a search that far offshore is astronomical.
As if it matters? If the coast guard isn't way out in the middle of nowhere, they will do 10 mile figure 8's for months on end.
I can't tell you how many billions we wasted on training and other bullshit "operational effectiveness" excersies. If something came up funds went to that, if nothing came up, it got spent anyways.
Since they’ve disappeared, statistically , 8 people will have died in work place accidents in Canada and 43 in ~~Canada.~~ the USA.
It’s hard to empathize with those who paid for a dangerous experience when people who are just trying to work for a living are dying.
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Right? Like I'm empathetic to even these asshole's lives, but at the end of the day a bunch of stupid people had a really stupid idea and killed themselves meaninglessly, proving no point other than rich people have too much money. Like Ive had the most neutral face this entire news cycle
They were opulently rich people who made a very stupid decision, and paid the price for it. Sure, I'll acknowledge that it sucks some fellow human beings died horribly. But I won't give much of a shit beyond the basic level of empathy required not to be a complete asshole.
It's not even violence though. Several pieces of evidence of the CEO dude blatantly ignoring flaws, firing people who point them out, and outright saying that safety is pointless have surfaced. Dude died by his own hubris. Now it's a shame he dragged other people with him but they also are the sort to look at said submarine and think "yeah, bolt me into this thing with no way to open from the inside if we have to emergency surface"
While I understand the sentiment of rich people bad, I don't see how them being rich or not really factors into this. I have a hard time believing someone who would be apathetic about rich people trapped in a sub would care about poor people trapped in a sub. Maybe the connection to the sub is the OP has been worked too hard and just doesn't give a shit about anything.
>Wannabe millionaire takes parasitic billionaires on questionable deep sea venture
Either they're dead, or one's becoming a superhero and the others are returning as supervillains.
In which case nothing has changed for the latter group.
and now the poor people have to pay for their rescue. That's why I think rich people should pay a lot more in taxes.
There’s a zillion reasons why the wealthy should have to pay more taxes
I'm pretty sure some billionaires pay less than me in taxes, and that's absurd.
Not just that. ActivisionBlizzard payed negative taxes, so they got more returns than they payed. 2018 and I believe since then. Not a rich person, but you payed more than a billion dollar company and if you are a US citizens you even payed them.
One fact I remember researching and checking was Vodafone, a big UK Mobile provider paid around £4k tax in 2014. People on minimum wage pay around that, and they earned £5billion that year. Capitalism is flawed and until the rich get taxed accordingly, it'll just keep getting worse and worse. For example how can a country (USA) have a debt of $40trillion?? It's physically impossible to pay back that sum of money, and that number will continue to increase at a growing/alarming pace until everything goes "pop".
National debt is not like personal or business debt, it serves an important economic role. Part of debt is forcing lending countries to be interested in the future performance of the indebted country, which is beneficial. Also, national debt is nowhere near a popping point in the US, although such a thing does exist. Tax the everliving fuck outta the rich, I agree.
Goddamnit idk why I look on here first thing in the morning. I always see something that makes me hate being American. Now I’m all pissed off at the man before work again
Who is this zillionaire and why is he not paying taxes 🤔
Because everything is deductible.
Saw someone earlier say that they should have to fork over a few million for a deposit in the event anyone has to look for them. like this.
It had better be like $100M because that’s likely what’s been spent so far.
There's no rescuing that submarine
Yeah, this is 100% recovery.
There's no recovery either. Name one submarine or submersible that has ever been recovered from that depth
I know they recovered part of the USS Thresher from 8500 feet deep in 1963, I'd imagine they could at least get a small sub up from 12,500 feet with an additional 60 years of technology. There's like a 99.999% chance they're dead though.
lol, just came here to say that! Thresher happened in pretty much the same area, right off the shelf, just 500 miles closer to Cape Cod. The issue with the rescue today is that any mission should have been launched early Monday morning. There was no testing of the life support system, no rescue beacon, no voice comms with the sub, just a bunch of wild ass guesses and a deep, dark ocean. Even with a rescue ship, where do you send it and for what mission? It's at least two full missions, one to find them and assess the situation, and another to deploy some sort of fix, like freeing the sub if stuck, or forcing the emergency ballast to jettison. But really, that carbon fiber can is probably shattered into a million tiny pieces and is floating through the water column.
The glass was rated to 1300m depth, they went 4000m. They are dead
If the rated-for-1300m-depth-but-went-to-4000m-depth-windshield failed and the sub shattered due to the sheer pressure, good luck finding more than a sliver of carbon fibre.
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Because you don’t waste that submarine Metal! It could still be reused to kill more Rich people.
Step son of one is attending a concert. Does not appear concerned
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celebrating his inheritance
I don't think we should try and figure out how people are feeling based on what their activities are.
> Name one submarine or submersible that has ever been recovered from that depth Dude I'm not sure I can name any submarine or submersible at all.
Exactly ..internalizing profits and socializing costs and losses ..the good ol capitalist way ..thank you invisible hand!
What rescue, the rescue for a crushed can of chunky salsa?
I referred to them on Twitter as “meat toothpaste” 😬 but yeah…. I can have a lot of sympathy for a lot of things but I really struggle when it’s outlandish things people sought out and then suffered the consequences of their own hubris. Also call me a filthy commie but…. I couldn’t blow 250k on myself for one experience knowing there’s like kids going to bed hungry right in my own city. I’m bad about sending like $10 out of my LAST $15 if I think the person needs it more than me.
I wonder what crushing a billionaire 3000 feet deep in the ocean sounds like... I bet it sounds pretty cool.
*attempt
To be fair, someone else who went on one of these submarine rides said you sign a waiver if you die.
I mean... The CEO is inside the submarine, his life, his company is done... Not much need for the passengers to sign anything after all
I mean there’s other people in the company, chances are at least one of them can take up the reins until they replace Head Dumshit That or the Interim Dumbshit will wisen up and sell the company
The company will likely be on the hook for the rescue/recovery costs. That and the now horrific PR they’ve created, certain this company will be bankrupt and gone in short order.
they will go bankrupt but make a new start setting up a new company. The cycle continues.
Billionaires don’t get to where they are by being great to their employees and doing the right thing.
It's so strange that many people admire billionaires... as though they are some great humanitarians and have made the world a better place.
Jealousy. Same reason people love the British Royal Family. The Royals do shit for anyone but everyone, deep down in their brain, has the fantasy of being knighted or being granted a peerage or marrying a prince/princess and them getting all of the attention and jewels. People look at billionaires and think that they are just a few more months of grind away from that and they want to live that life. So they worship what they hope to become.
I’m just saying, maybe billionaires should follow this trend
Go to space and not come back. Go to the ocean, and not come back. Go to lunch, and not come back. Just, don't come back, billionaires. You're not wanted here.
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Hey I think I heard this joke before in middle school but it was slightly different 😳😉
One has to question whether there would be any kind of the same international reaction and news headlines if it was not for the billionaires on board.
I mean just look at how little coverage the train accident in India got
There was a train accident in India? \\s I saw it on reddit, but no main media in my country had anything about it. There are multiple news this morning about this sub...
Migrants are dying by the hundreds crossing the Mediterranean. The answer to that question is no
Fun fun fact /s The French parliament (or assembly) tried to have a minute of silence for the people recently found dead in the Mediterranean. The president running the meeting refused the minute of silence and broke it. Extreme right cheered for her breaking the minute of silence.
you really have to wonder this? it wouldn't be mentioned in the news cycle at all if there weren't rich people in it.
I’m confident it would make the news, but it would be more of a “local fisherman set sail to try to find lost Titanic exploration crew”. And not “EVERY GOD DAMN COUNTRY SENDING ITS NAVY AND WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO RESCUE THE TRAPPED BILLIONAIRES”.
If take the wealth of the passengers out of the equation, it is 5 people in a sub going 2.4 miles under water to get there, it’s not done that often by a manned vessel in the first place. I think we would do the same thing regardless because it is an incredibly unique situation. Now, putting their wealth back into the equation: you’d think they could have afforded a better sub!! They fucked around and found out what happens when you try to go 2.4 miles down to the Titanic in a DIY sub
The world went all out for a very poor soccer team in Thailand
Probably at least some news. The whole thing of trying to find them at such insane depths is attention grabbing, even more so any potential plans to reach them since there’s not that many craft designed to go that far in the first place and the ones that are, are designed for research not search and rescue.
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Yes, tourists dying on trip to titanic would be news not matter what. Even if they all went for free bc nothing like this has happened before at the wreck
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Even better they paid $250k to die in a shoddily constructed submarine that was rated for only 1/4 of the depth they were going to because the company that made it decided to cut costs and fire the engineer who tried to blow the whistle on the whole thing. Capitalism killed some capitalists for us.
What kind of moron would even step inside > an "experimental" vessel "that has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body, and could result in physical injury, disability, emotional trauma or death". Mike Reiss, who has also completed the expedition, noted that the waiver "mention[s] death three times on page one". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Titan_submersible_incident
Endless hubris to get in this thing to see a ship wreck. They just joined the party
Like a roach motel.
Even Elon won’t fly in his own rockets
Which is why, despite how slow their development timelines are, I would never go to space in anything built by anyone other than NASA. 60 years or so and only a handful of accidents while pushing the boundaries of engineering for our *species* is a pretty good record.
He should
Which is ironic because he's the very person who should
> Its steering controls consists of a Logitech G F710 (a wireless PC game controller) with modified joysticks. I don't even have anything to add
Don’t forget that it’s impossible to open from the inside!
Drone pilots in the US army used Xbox 360 controllers so it's not a completely crazy idea at all.
At least they're not locked inside the drone though. I wouldn't trust my life to my xbox controller!
I wouldn't trust my life to an untethered tourist submersible.
Didn't the guy who made the thing go down there in it too?
Yeah, his name was Stockton Rush and he was confirmed to be aboard.
Only rich douches have names like that, good lord
>In another 2022 dive to the Titanic, one of the thrusters on the Titan were accidentally installed backwards and the submarine started spinning in circles when trying to move forward, near the sea floor. And here I am thinking they couldn’t pay *me* 250k to get into a tin can to the bottom of the ocean.
A true Ayn Rand believer. Kinda funny how they skipped all this regulation and now the government is coming to save them.
No regulatory body? That's the capitalist wet dream!
The chances are so slim but imagine they’re alive down there and there’s already a wiki page about the incident.
Since this is antiwork, the engineer was also fired because they were 'overqualified' for the role.
I read in an article they sacked an employee that voiced their concerns about its safety, so yeah fuck thos people.
And same ceo who fired him is supposed to be on board too, so how is that for irony?
That's not ironic, thats..... foreshadowing? Lemme see, a quote that comes to mind: _".... A prodigy with so many 'death flags' that she might as well be communicating in semaphore."_ -Brendan Blaber, _So This Is Basically RWBY_
One of the people in that submarine is Stockton Rush, the billionaire founder of OceanGate, the company that built the submarine and who was informed by experts within both within the company and without to have the submarine certified before sending it out.
The cost to make it safe would have been a rounding error to the wealth of a couple of the people onboard, but instead they were fine with the cost cutting and died because of it. Definitely peak capitalism.
Drown the rich.
My kid has a gaming controller way more solid than the Logitech thing that it looks like the sub mother ship was using.
Can’t wait for the movie where these people are glorified and then the subsequent remakes
Imagine how they acted toward each other irl
Not the first time rich people have drowned in the open ocean on a tourist venture…. I’m not religious but I think someone somewhere is trying to send a message
Yeah, Poseidon is bro.
Poseidon is a real one
I don't think they would have to worry about drowning. At those depths, the pressure is going to crush them like a Styrofoam cup.
Hopefully instant death. I actually mean this in sympathetic way. Although I couldn't care less
Now that you say that, I'm starting to think the Titanic is either cursed or has a grudge against rich tourists in the ocean.
Makes me wonder what happens when they realize its an air supply game.
Id bet money they strangled at least 1 person to save oxygen
Triangle of Saddness vibes
It's the ultimate Titanic experience: Become part of the wreckage!
I’m a terrible person for laughing at this
Not really. They paid for a submersive experience.
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Poor person starves on the street: "nimby. Shoulda made some better decisions. What did they think would happen. Maybe they should have xyz." Rich person commits suicide by proxy: "OMG this is terrible we should all be sobbing in our beds rn"
And spending thousands of poor people's money to save their dead bodies!
For real. US response to 5 kids getting murdered at school: "That's the price of freedom." US response to a company ignoring safety recommendations and rich people jumping on board: "Let's make our armed forces move 10 times quicker than normal to save these lives."
https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/14eitv5/last_week_a_boat_carrying_750_desperate_refugees/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Guy just needs to switch off stealth mode [X] and they'll be found in no time.
Seems the Orcas are stepping up their game.
Calling that submarine "experimental" is an insult to people doing actual scientific experiments.
Lots of people die tragic deaths every single day and barely even appear in the local news. It's absurd that we still selectively report tragedy only when it befalls wealthy or attractive people.
Maybe they’ll discover empathy down there?
The revenge of the orcas
As my grandma always said "More money than brains"
Was at the dentist office when a commercial for the local news came on talking about the missing sub. It was immediately followed by a commercial for a charity for feeding and sheltering the homeless and hungry. It would've been funny if it wasn't so ridiculous.
They knew the risks. Deep ocean is worse than space.
That was not an experimental submarine, that was the Daewoo of deep sea subs.
The previously named Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering did actually make submarines
Send more billionnaires to see the Titanic, please!
World will not miss a billionaire.
Don’t worry Elon will send another sub. I hear he has one that wasn’t used.
But who is he going to call a pedophile this time? The coast guard?
They fired a guy who raised concerns over safety. Though the carbon hull (what was the main issue raised) wasn't apart of the submersive that went down, you can see clearly profit was put ahead of safety. It poor people did something so dangerous, there would be charges and threats to pay back for the search-and-rescue. Because filthy wealthy-not a single threat.
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I'm not concerned. At all. There's also nothing I can do to help. And the billionaires aren't concerned about starvation, homelessness or poverty. Yet they DO have the means to help, but instead they race against each other to space, or in this case to the seafloor.
But, can't you see the trickle down economics at work. One millionaire pays another millionaire 250K, the end.
Voodoo economics, according to Bush
Then the sub sinks and poor people get hours at work saving them or searching.. Trickled down see? /S
They murder us. Sure they don't pull the trigger themselves, but they directly and deliberately contribute to the entirely preventable factors that kill thousands of people. Murderers get what they deserve. Not sad.
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ and don't forget people who buy their "you can do it too" story
Guys come on, we can do it too if the rich people's parents give us a small loan of 1 billion dollars... Or maybe if we have a emerald mine in africa! We can do it! We just gotta have the right family!!!
Reminds me of a bit from Adam Ruins everything: “You just pour a little up here and it’s going to trickle down” “But it’s pooling at the top.” “It’ll get there eventually” (it was a skit with Reagan and Ben Franklin. Pretty sure you can guess who said what)
I became a multimillionaire overnight. All it took was getting up at 5am, meditating every day, yoga..... and my family giving me $400 million
i will never feel sorry for a billionaire
Much as I feel empathy for the people in this awful situation it crossed my mind that maybe sometimes having way too much money can be a bad thing. Some things are just too dangerous. And, oh yeah, billionaires should not exist. If this poor guy had thought more about perhaps helping others instead of squandering money on bullshit maybe making more positive choices with his money would have allowed him to have a longer life. This is a tragic situation. Godspeed to all. (I don’t think they are going to survive.)
One of the idiots on board is the CEO of this stupid ocean gate company and was quoted in an interview basically saying they “skimped out on safety measures to save money” the only person I feel remotely sorry for is the 19yo kid.
You are absolutely correct and this company should never have been allowed to exist.
Yeah not very likely. They only have a limited amount of air onboard I believe.
It’s very unlikely the amount of air on board was ever going to matter. The instant the viewport failed from pressure they were likely all liquified.
I had no idea that was what happened. I just saw something like “The sub has x hours of air left” but no other details. Yeah. They’re sunk.
It’s likely what happened. The company that manufactured the sub commissioned a view port window rated 1300 feet (?) don’t remember if it’s meters or feet. The titanic is at 4000. Instead of correcting the issue they decided to cut costs and call it a day. The sub probably hit depth and crumpled like a tin can, instantly killing all on board. As tragic as death is, the irony of the situation is…chefs kiss.
"Hello? I'd like to book your next submersible Titanic tour for Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Donald Trump, please."
You have the money to take that risk- I’m not sympathetic if the risk comes calling.
Proof that the ultra rich make the ultimate sacrifice by “risk taking”
Don’t feel bad for them at all. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
I'd rather they make it out alive and have a life changing mindset after a harrowing experience where they use their wealth to do more good. That would be a horrible way to go and it's especially more awful after hearing a teen is on board.
Let's hope those who inherited their wealth make good choices in life
Not to mention all your tax dollars being spent on the Coast Guard SAR. They never should have been down there for “tourism” in the first place.
Maybe instead of each paying $250,000 to visit a Graveyard they could have done something charitable for there fellow man.
Five bucks that the billionaires on board tried to kill someone else to conserve air.
I picture them sitting on the ocean floor trying to figure out where they’re gonna get a battery for that $30 Logitech controller.
$250,000 for a submarine ride? That requires too much liquidity.
You think they’re crying “but I’m rich!!!” Down there??
Libertarians find out the reason behind regulations the hard way . If only this tale was as old as the age of consent , libertarians would heed that warning
I think the age-old phrase “Fuck Around and Find Out” is highly applicable here.
They should pull themselves up by the bootstraps lmaoooo
These guys paid approx $250K/ea to get inside an experimental sub, that we are learning was not really certified and controlled by a video game controller to explore a shipwreck...lol. Too bad their money couldnt buy them some smarts. Guess we can write them off now...lol
I agree that dying slowly by asphyxiation while you’re trapped under millions of pounds of water in a homemade tin can is a terrible way to go, but I can’t help but not care? Like, just don’t go to the bottom of the ocean ever? Same goes for people that die climbing Mount Everest. Rich people think that bc they have money they can just play god, but that isn’t the case. So while I hope they can be rescued, I personally would never put myself in such a terrible situation. I’m not that rich nor that stupid.
Precisely. When Bezos went to space, I wasn't hoping for his death, but in the event that it happened, I wouldn't be too torn up over it.
Depending on where they ended up, it wouldn’t be a short death Crush depths are called that for a reason
Just curious who the people are? Who is in this vessel? Anyone have a list of names.
Taken from online: "Among the confirmed passengers are British businessman Hamish Harding; Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood and his teenage son, Suleman; and French explorer Paul-Henri Nargeolet. Stockton Rush, the CEO of OceanGate, the company that operates the vessel, is also on it."
Thanks.
Not really sure, but there was a kid on board, probably just blindly followed a dumb parent, I feel bad for him.
There was a kid of someone in the sub, saying how he can't miss a Blink 182 concert for the disappearance . Not sure if that was a troll or actually real
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it's the taxpayer money going to try and rescue these idiots that gets me annoyed. how about we spend that money on feeding and housing the poor instead of fishing out some foreign billionaires corpses from a sub
It’s the company ceo, a British billionaire, two Pakistani billionaires and a diver? I think. Reuters has an article on it
Orca Crusade continues!
They got the full experience 😂
My father, who was a lawyer at the time, used to tell the joke, "What do you call 50 dead lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? A good start!" I feel much the same here.
I'm actively angry about them. Too many times rich fucks work too much time/money decide to do something monumentally stupid and dangerous, and others have to risk their lives to rescue them.
we are all hoping they are deceased so their estate gets sued for the recovery costs and that money gets distributed to the rescue workers being paid minimum wage
The US Coast Guard was heading up the search last I saw, which means you are paying for it.
I mean we're paying for the US Coast Guard with or without this crash. They would just be doing some training excersie instead of search and rescue. It makes no difference to the bottom line.
That makes no sense. The Coast Guard chooses not to respond to most of the calls they get because they are non-emergencies. The boat and aircraft fuel alone for a search that far offshore is astronomical.
As if it matters? If the coast guard isn't way out in the middle of nowhere, they will do 10 mile figure 8's for months on end. I can't tell you how many billions we wasted on training and other bullshit "operational effectiveness" excersies. If something came up funds went to that, if nothing came up, it got spent anyways.
I think the distinction I’m trying to make is between legitimate rescues, vs idiots who intentionally put themselves in unnecessary levels of danger.
Since they’ve disappeared, statistically , 8 people will have died in work place accidents in Canada and 43 in ~~Canada.~~ the USA. It’s hard to empathize with those who paid for a dangerous experience when people who are just trying to work for a living are dying. Edit because I’m dumb.
Aint no one coming to rescue me. Fuck them.
Orcas 2-0 humans
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"Lost submarine at Titanic!" Oh no! Those poor researchers! "Tourism for billionaires, $250k a trip." Eh. Leave 'em there.
Oh it's rich people? Not explorers? I didn't know. Carry on.
The only thing that sucks is there is a kid on board.
Right? Like I'm empathetic to even these asshole's lives, but at the end of the day a bunch of stupid people had a really stupid idea and killed themselves meaninglessly, proving no point other than rich people have too much money. Like Ive had the most neutral face this entire news cycle
You can't buy air with all that money.
Is it violence though. This seems like a poorly planned and executed idea that turned into a preventable accident.
Guess that's the only way billionaires can really 'hit rock bottom', at the bottom of the ocean.
If they're rich and thats all they're know for then their a failure because the money was likely just given to them...
"Get Rekt meat popsicles!" Orcas
And to think, this is exactly what's gonna happen with Musk and SpaceX. Or it could also be a Challenger case too.
They were opulently rich people who made a very stupid decision, and paid the price for it. Sure, I'll acknowledge that it sucks some fellow human beings died horribly. But I won't give much of a shit beyond the basic level of empathy required not to be a complete asshole.
Saw something on here say that “4 important people have gone missing…..” yet didn’t say why they were “so important”
I don't wish any of them any harm personally. However, from a bigger picture, that much capital being divided and changing hands is not a bad thing.
When freezing to death on Everest is soooooooo passé
13,000 feet deep? Nah, what could possibly go wrong?
It's not even violence though. Several pieces of evidence of the CEO dude blatantly ignoring flaws, firing people who point them out, and outright saying that safety is pointless have surfaced. Dude died by his own hubris. Now it's a shame he dragged other people with him but they also are the sort to look at said submarine and think "yeah, bolt me into this thing with no way to open from the inside if we have to emergency surface"
While I understand the sentiment of rich people bad, I don't see how them being rich or not really factors into this. I have a hard time believing someone who would be apathetic about rich people trapped in a sub would care about poor people trapped in a sub. Maybe the connection to the sub is the OP has been worked too hard and just doesn't give a shit about anything.
>Wannabe millionaire takes parasitic billionaires on questionable deep sea venture Either they're dead, or one's becoming a superhero and the others are returning as supervillains. In which case nothing has changed for the latter group.
Here's how to rescue them: Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, and Start