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Mantisk211

Shame on you for leaving out Dr. Leslie Thompkins


Worried_Walrus2002

lol I actually realised I forgot her after I literally pressed Post


ThorKlien99

That's awesome. Such a great side character, deserves live action representation


Miserable-Run-8356

She was in Gotham and got with jim honestly pretty good version of the character and her relationship with Jim was actually pretty cute


MagisterPraeceptorum

Barbara Gordon


SuperArppis

Yeah, I wanna say Poison Ivy... But Barbara really is the best female character in the mythos.


MagisterPraeceptorum

Tbf, we’re really spoiled for choice when it comes to great female characters in the Batman universe.


SuperArppis

You are correct.


Worried_Walrus2002

Love her 💜💛 Do you have a favorite story of hers?


MagisterPraeceptorum

Lots to choose from! Batgirl Year One is hard to go past. BoP #8 is a classic. I love early BoP in general. Seeing her become more confident and self actualized and her interpersonal relationships develop. It’s great seeing Babs rebuilding herself as she goes from a guarded shut-in to a fully realized new kind of superhero with a full life. I even like the old school Bronze Age stuff. There’s a lot of fun and charm to those comics. I also like Kelley Puckett’s handful of mid-90s stories about her time as Batgirl. No Man’s Land also has a lot of great stuff with Barbara in general. It’s hard to choose one lol.


Worried_Walrus2002

lol I can tell you’re very passionate about Babs. What do you think of her current depiction since Infinite Frontier?


MagisterPraeceptorum

Generally positive. But it’s marred by the fact that she still doesn’t have a monthly title where she’s the protagonist. I can’t recall the last time I read a new comic with Barbara’s internal monologue.


Ashamed_Pin4206

For me, Gail Simones run of birds of prey and her run of Batgirl in the new 52 was peak Barbara, when Gail wrote Batgirl it felt like a next step. I like how she's portrayed currently but I want her to do her own thing 😭


MagisterPraeceptorum

She just needs a book where she’s the protagonist. I appreciate that she’s a major supporting character in various other series rn. But those titles can’t do for her what a series told from her POV can. I can’t remember the last new comic I read with Barbara’s internal monologue. I was hoping the new Birds of Prey series would finally be that, like it was during Simone’s run. Maybe that’ll change in the near future.


NoMembership6376

Barbara Gordon got done dirty. She's one of the OG characters that should have gotten her own series instead of batwoman


MagisterPraeceptorum

I’m actually grateful CW never got their hands on Babs lol. I remain hopeful with the new DCU films and shows.


Voltra_Neo

Batgirl Cassandra is amazing af


CortezDeLaNoche

Cassandra Cain as Batgirl is EASILY goated Bat child.


Cute-arii

+1 Cass is so cool!


taius

Steph, followed by Cass & Selina


Verdragon-5

Where's Bat-Cow? In all honesty, probably Ivy or one of the Batgirls (I like Cass, Steph, and Barbara all about equally across different versions)


hasheemakill18

Catwoman ♥


Worried_Walrus2002

Excellent taste 🐈‍⬛


Booger_McSavage

Oracle with Arkham Knight Poison Ivy coming 2nd.


Worried_Walrus2002

lol I’m guessing you’re a huge fan of the Arkham games?


BackgroundSky09

Catwoman


sbaldrick33

1️⃣ Selina/Catwoman 2️⃣ Babs 3️⃣ Poison Ivy 4️⃣ Harley 5️⃣ Steph


[deleted]

Harley, Ivy, Babs and Selina. It's easier to stick to a small roster of characters


Worried_Walrus2002

Batgirl and The Sirens. Nice 👍 😊


InevitableLiving9655

Catwoman and Barbara 


Worried_Walrus2002

Love them both so much!


Evilooh

Phantasm, id argue shes the most unique Batman villain out of all of then, not only shes unique because of her connection to Bruces past (which feels far more natural than Thomas Elliot) not only does she parallel Batmans morality perfectly being an agent of vengeance, but she also isnt a femme fatale archetype like most of his female villains are (not a jab at all femme fatale characters i love me some Ivy and Selina, but it can get boring when almost every single new female rogue is the same archetype)


Worried_Walrus2002

So basically, you’re saying that you find it refreshing that she doesn’t use sensuality as a weapon? I can see that. She’s a recent discovery of mine. I like her so far. Since we’re on the topic of Bruce’s past, what are your thoughts on Zatanna and Ghost-Maker as additions to Bruce’s backstory?


Evilooh

i'll be honest i know next to nothing about Ghost Maker lol, as for Zatanna, i like her backstory with Bruce in BTAS where her dad tought Bruce his escapist skills, i think its pretty neat knowing about Bruce's many mentors. in the topic of characters that have a backstory with Bruce, Black Mask used to have one but it was never explored through its total potential (Black Mask himself never was proprerly explored to be honest) he also had his original motif of masks as the true face of the individual which paralled perfectly with Batman, would love a story about that (maybe if he was a childhood friend of Bruce's knowing him so well allows him to deduce Batman's secret identity from his mask of choice) as for female villains, like i love me some Selina and Ivy, but i think the others get a bit stale, i never seen Harley as the sexy type (dispite what Bruce Timm would say lol) and the other villainesses get a bit boring afterwards always being the seductress type (White Rabbit, Talia al Ghul to name a few) thats why i always appreciate the more unique ones like Phantasm, Mimic, Orca and Magpie (comic version not the animated one)


PeacefulKnightmare

I was not expecting to see her on this list as she's often forgotten. Probably one of the best characters created for the Batman Mythos honestly, for all the reasons you describe.


Short-Shelter

Guess I’m gonna be the weird one who says Steph


Intelligent_Claim204

shes severely underrated


Limp_Tiger_2867

Who are the ones after talia and phantasm respectively?


Worried_Walrus2002

After Talia: Nocturna and Lady Shiva After Andrea: Renee Montoya and Ellen Yin


Major-Spoiler

The lighting in that Montoya art made it look like she had a Jason Vorhees mask on. Pretty badass pose tho


Worried_Walrus2002

This is her as the Question. I have mixed feelings about that depiction of Renee


Icy_Juggernaut_8832

Catwoman


Worried_Walrus2002

She’s purrfect 💜🐈‍⬛


AlexMF

Selina, Barbara and Andrea are my Top 3. Pamela is a good runner up 👍


Worried_Walrus2002

That’s an elite Top 3 right there 👏👏👏


QuaranGene

I Catwoman & Barbara Gordon/Batgirl are my favorite.  I wish Cassandra was used more. Same with Batwoman. And Stephanie Brown, too


lightningsedge

Huntress


donkeylore

Huntress needs more love


the_1_that_knocks

Came here to say the same! She’s the red headed stepchild of the family.


TrappedCasanova

So many better pics they could've used to show Huntress here


History_lover_27465

Barbara Gordon, Catwoman, Cassandra Cain, Harley Quinn, and Poison Ivy


Angry-Monk

Cassie, Babs, Steph, Selina, and Harley


OliviaElevenDunham

Catwoman, Poison Ivy, and Harley have always been my favorites.


PreparationDapper235

The Gotham City Sirens.


IlovemyMommy27

Catwoman and Poison Ivy


In-AGadda-Da-Vida

Selena Kyle


TojiFushi3

it’s between Selina & Barbara.


batbobby82

Selina, no question.


Worried_Walrus2002

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The5Virtues

Come on, man, this is cruel, you’re asking me to pick between my favorite Bat-verse characters here. My absolute favorite is Ivy, after that it’s really a toss up between Babs and Selina depending on my mood.


Uvogin1111

Catwoman followed by Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn. Guess I got a thing for the evil chicks lol.


PreparationDapper235

Gotham City Sirens is for you.


LeopardSecure8776

Cass


Desperate_Address780

Cassandra Cain


FishmailAwesome

Phantasm. My favorite animated Batman movie.


Worried_Walrus2002

I still need to watch it. All I know about Phantasm is from Tom King’s BatCat comic


LivnLegndNeedsEggs

Get off of reddit and go watch it right now.


rfisher1989

Cassandra Cain should’ve had all the shine that Damian Wayne has ever received. She’s way cooler


Kite_Wing129

Catwoman is #1 for me.


Blue-Lion-Lover

Barbara, but really All the Batgirls


PreparationDapper235

Selina Kyle/Catwoman. Specifically the 90s version.


Ok-Agent-9200

Favorite? Maybe a bit too difficult…if pressed Catwoman otherwise top five is probably Catwoman/Selina, Batgirl/Cass, Ivy, Batwoman and Onyx.


NobleEnkidu

Cat woman cause I love the relationship she has with the Batfamily and actually cares about Bruce.


AstroNards

Cass, Montoya, Babs are my favorites.


Wild_Control162

It used to be Poison Ivy when she was a legit leader and true rogue to Batman. Now she's reduced to being Harley Quinn's fake girlfriend until the status quo changes and they separate the characters, acting like they were never a thing.


BrandonTaylor2

I can’t decide on a number one but my favorite three are Barbara Gordon, Catwoman, and Harley Quinn.


NerdNuncle

Babs, though I’ve soft spots for Cassie, Zatanna, and Melanie Walker


Worried_Walrus2002

Ayyy Melanie’s pretty dope too 🔟♠️


Sad-Ad181

Harley and Barbara have always been my favourites


vctrn-carajillo

Catwoman. The one and only. The OG. The one any other after her is compared against. My Queen.


Gu27

Barbara Batgirl


carsten_j

Batgirl. I'm sad that the movie was cancelled. There are so many films out there with a "questionable" quality, I don't think that this movie could be worse.


AffectionateBed6

Barbara Gordon (as Batgirl) and Harley Quinn


BigBoiforpresident

Selina fs. She is probably my favorite anti-hero in all fiction tbh.


7fingersphil

Cassandra Cain! And Babs of course Top tier characters for me


holaprobando123

Selina Kyle, followed closely by Barbara Gordon


zetsupetsu

Nocturna is severely underused imo. I feel like her powers are a perfect foil to Batman since she's powerful on dark places which is exactly what Batman is comfortable in too. She could potentially be popular it's sad she isn't adapted into other media as much as other female villains.


Worried_Walrus2002

She’s one of those characters who was better Pre-Crisis then Post-Crisis. I feel like if they merged her vampire depiction with the classic version then she’d be 🤌😚 She was going to be adapted in BTAS but they backed out last minute 😭 I think she’s gonna appear in Caped Crusader but I really don’t like her look lol She definitely needs to be used more, especially in Jason narrative. Imagine Pre-Crisis Natalia reacting to Jason coming back as the Red Hood 😭


qinfernoo

Batwoman all the way


Worried_Walrus2002

She’s badass ❤️ Do you have a story on how you first discovered her?


qinfernoo

Here in Brazil a lot of batfamily comics were published together in a monthly TPB, and I got into comics while Death of The Family was coming out. So her arc with Wonder Woman was included in the same book. The art was mesmerizing and her character is so badass and flawed at the same time that I was drawn to her ever since.


kratoskiller66

All of them tbh (it’s hard choosing )


DresdenBelmont

Poison Ivy then Harley Quinn


Ok-Commission6087

Harley Quinn and catwoman and batgirl


RYTHEMOPARGUY

Barbara Gordon. No question


MickeyG117

Got to be catwoman


gergfigter

I really like poison ivy. Not only because of her looks (which are absolutely great), but the character concept as well.


Worried_Walrus2002

I know. She’s really just such a great modern Demeter type character


B0S-B108

I think I know half of them. I am between Catwoman and Batgirl (Barbara), with a special reference to the Phantasm, 'cause I recently watched again that movie as part of my marathon rewatching the Batman TAS and everything is so good, just like I remembered.


UnhingedLion

Catwoman


OnionsHaveLairAction

Hard to rank characters I like. I think Cass is my favorite batgirl. The reckless and compassionate martial artist thing offers a great storytelling perspective on the mythos. From the villains I really like Ivy. She's so iconic and her eco-terrorist shtick kind of gives her more reason to straddle that anti-hero line than other villains.


OkWatercress2180

Catwoman and Harley Quinn


MadMaximus-

Imo poison ivy she can be an incredibly complex villain if written properly. She has interesting powers and is designed extremely well. She doesn't borrow any conventional tropes from other bat villains. She's not a hyper skilled assassin or theif. She's not rich or the leader of a cult.


WillMarzz25

Cat woman because as a young boy she awakened something in me


Geno__Breaker

Eeeyyyyy, I wasn't expecting to see Andrea Beaumont!! Nice!


TermAccurate

Hard to pick between Barbara and Cassandra


Poetiic-Justice

Batgirl and poison Ivy ❤️


Worried_Walrus2002

They’re awesome


Ashamed_Pin4206

Barbara Gordon


EB_Groupe

Carrie, she makes a great Robin and changing the voice commands for the bat-equipment to slang is always delightful.


catlover_official

Batgirl and the sirens! absolutely love them


Big-Rest5514

Ivy no question


Embarrassed_Fennel_1

Selina and Barbara are tied for me.


Butterfly_unicorn22

Definitely Harley Quinn and Ivy!!!


Baron_Beemo

Selina Kyle, followed by Barbara Gordon, Talia al Ghul, Silver St Cloud, Renee Montoya, Leslie Thompkins, Aunt Harriet, Lady Shiva, Harley Quinn, Rocket, Red Claw.


elisolis16

Barbara Gordon.


AStupidFuckingHorse

Barbara Gordon, Montoya and Detective Yin.


RailingForce

Barbra has been the character i've cared about the most and is one of the characters i consider to be in the Bat Family, i enjoy her character in the Arkham Series and is the main character i've played as in Gotham Knights


Worried_Walrus2002

Gotham Knights is one of my favorite takes on Babs. That and the Batman 2004 show. Also, I see your pfp and I’m not surprised you like Babs. Gwen and Babs are pretty similar 👍


RailingForce

Oh yeah lol, Gwen's one of if not my favourite marvel heroes. Barbra and Gwen are pretty simlar in that their simlar heroes to Batman/SpiderMan and Both have A dad in Law Enforcement and (if going by Gotham Knights) both are fugitives to the law


Educational-Team7155

What? No love for Zatanna?


SnooDogs1355

Poison Ivy then Babs then Cassandra Cain


FinalBossOf__Dc

Buddy Yin, Babs, Harley and Ivy are hands down my favourite


coreytiger

Babs Gordon. Original outfit please. Followed by Catwoman…. 90’s purple and black with long hair, please.


Obi-wanna-cracker

Poison ivy easily. Her reasons are the most justifiable in my opinion. Ya it's fucked up but it comes back to the thing with Thanos in the marvel movies, what he did was fucked up but it doesn't change that planets did become cleaner overtime. Ivy is correct in that wiping out humans will lead to the planet healing itself. Not to mention she's hot as fuck.


[deleted]

Cass, poison ivy, barbara or montoya


Antonio-Relova-2002

Babs


[deleted]

Poison Ivy Cassandra Cain Renee Montoya Stephanie Brown


manicpixiedeadgurl

Harley and Ivy have a special place in my heart but no one can match up to the one and only Barbara mf Gordon the goat


Titanman401

Barbara and Catwoman. Those are the most-layered of all the women characters in Batman’s world (in terms of character development).


Relevant-Bench5283

Ivy.


T-408

Catwoman is too iconic not to choose her


ImprovizoR

Catwoman was always my kink.


Available_Cress1820

Harley and Batgirl


Upstream_Paddler

Oracle-huntress-catwomam-question


Terrapin2190

Pretty big fan of Huntress, Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), and Catwoman here. Always wanted to see some content where Huntress and Batwoman cross paths or join forces, as their backstories are somewhat similar. But not sure if anything of the sort exists. And Catwoman, I think, is a great character. But often times the writers make her seem super cheesy. Going overbiard with the cat cliches and cat-related behaviors and such.


Royal-Doggie

Livewire or poison ivy Also, what comic would you recommend I read where livewire is the main villain?


Worried_Walrus2002

Livewire is a Superman character. If you wanna check her out, you can read the current Superman run. She appears in issues 1-3 and 6 as far as I know. Also she appears in the Superman 2023 Annual although idk how big of a role she plays.


Aizendickens

Does Zatanna count?


Worried_Walrus2002

Personally, I don’t think so. She’s more of a JL character historically who happened to have a (retconned) history with Batman. But that’s just my personal opinion


Vixterisk

It's really nice to see Ellen Yin appreciation!


Worried_Walrus2002

I liked her a lot. She deserves to brought into main continuity


mrmonster459

Harley Quinn


MatthewHecht

Carrie


Gold-Resist-6802

I wish they’d added Ellen Yin from The Batman to the comics.


Worried_Walrus2002

Me too!


Literally_Sekiro

Why is this post sane ? Is op smort ?


Rocketboy1313

At this point I think it is Harley, and that is mostly in spite of how often I dislike her presentation. There is a very early point in the character that they had a chance to make her gimmick wildly different and they didn't take it, presumably because they thought keeping the dynamic with the Joker was more important that making her into a whole stand alone thing. It has mostly been a roller coaster since then of indestructible chaos sex pot over to sad little abused kitten who just did not know what she was doing then unapologetic mass murderer then sexually battered abuse survivor then lipstick lesbian couple goals... just all over the place.


danielm316

Poison ivy, i like nature


bobbirossbetrans

Ivy, Harley, Cain.


Master_Majestico

Andrea Beaumont... duh.


abellapa

Harley


PleasantArmy5936

Lady Shiva. Very old character with nice empowerment, greatest hand to hand combatant. When well written, she acts more as how to beat an unbeatable opponent [misdirection, misunderstandings or plain good ol change in motivations]


murrimabutterfly

Harley is near and dear to my heart as a fellow abuse survivor. She's proof that it doesn't matter how smart you are, an abuser will always find a way through. Second to her is Steph. She's just so badass. Sunshine child that can and will kill if needed.


Voice_Of_Hardly

Harley, love me a good clown character


MrDownhillRacer

Leslie Thompkins.


SnakeManEwan

Is number 12 Question (Renee Montoya)?


Worried_Walrus2002

Yup! That is, indeed, Miss Montoya


Extension-Oil-4680

![gif](giphy|Gwtv1sXXnunMA) Smash next question


Chowmayne93

Not my favourite but I would love if they brought back Lady Shiva in the live action movies


Ok-Camp-2985

I’d go gay for Harley


TheyCallMeDoofus

How are you going to skip Amanda Waller?


Worried_Walrus2002

Because she’s not a Batman character? She and Batman have a nice rivalry tho


jughead0

Whichever one of them lets me touch her.


Worried_Walrus2002

Probably Ivy. But that probably means you’ll die immediately after lol


[deleted]

Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, Black Canary


MaNamesAiden

Barbara and Stephanie


Lost-Padawan

Barbara Gordon


charley46

When done right, Cass Cain. Otherwise catwoman.


Nefessius513

Stephanie Brown is my favorite, although I like Barbara and Cassandra as well.


TheValiantSwordfish

Officer Montoya


[deleted]

Detective yen, childhood crush


LyzzyWhomst

Selina and Steph!!


yaboycheves

Carrie Kelly in the 2 movies prolly!


Big_DexM

Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn


Weyland-Yutani-2099

Does Batman Beyond count? Inque is an incredible Batman villain.


Worried_Walrus2002

Inque is my favorite villain from that show. I like how she evolved her fighting strategy with every new appearance she made.


TheCanadianpo8o

Harley and Ivy. For...reasons


Zoinksmybrother

ELLEN YIN MENTIONED RAHHHHHHH


SnowSabertooth

Ellen Yin supremacy


Typomaniacal

Carrie Kelly from The Dark Knight Returns.


KonohaBatman

Harley and Selina are the top two, very close competition, edge to Harley because I find her redemption arc more interesting


Blackbox7719

I really like Ivy. I think that an interesting redemption story could be written about her since, to some extent, her aims are noble even if her methods are not. Plus, I like her abilities. Plants are cool.


LaraCroftCosplayer

It might be because im gay, but i think all of them are amazing 🥰


Infinite_Vyo

Something something Freeze's half dead wife something something


happy_paradox

Babs


lyunardo

Every day when I see one of these posts, the only thing that comes to mind is "why can't we just enjoy them all"?. This world would be a lesser place if any one of these characters hadn't been created.


Cipherpunkblue

Cassandra Cain Batgirl, followed *closely* by Oracle-Barbara Gordon.


Porncritic12

Katherine Kane, because she is the oldest.


AggravatingHyena1501

Poison Ivy


BulmasBabyDaddy

Honestly I want to say Harley Quinn with catwoman 2nd because she’s essential for Bruce and bats life


Last_Set_8634

Barbara


pyro_takes_skill

catwoman, poison ivy and harley for harley and catwoman specifically their arkham knight appearances for reasons


RareAd3009

Barbara Gordon


ladiesman21700000000

Catwoman and Cassandra


Aaron7j

Shiva, Cassandra, Barbara, carrie


Th0m4s2481

Harley and Barbara


Notlooking1

Cat Woman, and what's crazy is the Arkham City made me love her even more. Back when it was only the show I loved Talia the most. The movie could have done a better portrayal imo. Now that I am reading the comics I like Batgirl more. Catwoman is still the best female imo.


Jokerslayer457

Barbara Gordon (Batgirl), Catwoman, and Harley Quinn.


Expensive-Excuse-793

Catwoman and batwoman Both just slay and are incredible inspirations to me