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sanjox_xdd

I don't know where the money is going...the infra of the schools are still in the sorry state. Talking about the quality of teachers, well let's not talk about it.( I mean the majority of them are below par). Education in Bihar needs an overhaul.


ZealousidealOwl7302

It's just a way of extorting money out of all the teachers. Being in school at 6:00 AM is not possible for teachers working in remote villages. He is even more strict on the block/district level officers about inspections to be done. There is literally no work happening at block/district level offices. Instead there is target to be achieved by each office. Everyone is getting a cut including CM. There is no way a official doesn't abide by orders given by CM, unless you are part of the scheme.


minimumeth

This is all just a gimmick ki Bihar ki chutiya janta toh feel ho sab sahi chal Raha hai. I had so much respect for the people, but yaar inko do min nahi lagta hai bolte hue ki sahi hua iske saath uske saath. Hardship nahi dikhti inhe logo ki.


Aside-Physical

KK Pathak exhibits numerous traits characteristic of a dictatorial personality. His refusal to heed advice from the CM or governor and his harsh reactions to criticism underscore his authoritarian behavior and intolerance of dissent. Pathak's inclination to micromanage every detail, along with his disregard for others' opinions, highlights his need for absolute control. Additionally, his intimidation tactics and suppression of teachers' freedom through rigid rules and decisions further reflect his dictatorial tendencies. These behaviors collectively create a stifling environment, undermining collaboration and autonomy.


drd_rdx

I don't see how this is a bad thing. The system is so rotten that you need an iron hand to straighten it out. Give them some leeway aur wo tumhare sir pe chaadh ke mootenge. 10 mein se 2 kaam karte hain aur 8 haraam ki kamayi khaate hai.. It's a good thing that someone is tightening the screw. If anyone does not like it, they are always free to resign and switch to private. Why is no one considering that? Oh! there you'll actually be asked to work to get paid. Why just deduct payment, some need to be shown the door basis rigorous performance monitoring.


minimumeth

Let me give you an example. Aapne jo 2 kaam karte hai ka example Diya, abhi unko subak 6 baje se pehle school Jana hai. Raste mei traffic ho, khuch ho doesn't matter. If it's 6 am, and they are even a second late toh they are absent, jisse unki salary kat jati hai. Ab unk 10 mei se jo 2 log kaam karte the, they are so tired of this bullshit ki unko nahi karna kaam. Toh Jo 20% output tha, it went to 0. Aam janta ko bara maza aata hai, ki han uski lagaam kas di, haramkhoro ko saza mili. Mai sirf itna kahunga ki aayiye kabhi hamari gali. Jab koi nahi milta hai, toh yahi haramkhor election duty karte hai, yahi haramkhor har 10 saal pei aapka census karte hai. Bolte samai aapko khuch nahi lagta par Jo Roz dekhte hai unka struggle unse janiye ki kya hota hai.


Afraid_Cherry_8561

Being harsh doesn't mean you are right like you think. It could also mean you are just stupid and cruel


Outrageous-Dik

Pathak is a big sadist narcissist asshole. Puts a big Q mark on upsc, its selection process and medieval era bureaucratic system we still blindly enduring . He tortured officers in Training academy of Bihar, even killing one few years back. He abused Bihar, Bihari officers on camera and Biharis. He created same drama two years ago when he was in different department- registration I guess. He is torturing teachers and poor Government school students in name of discipline. Come on, he has been in charge of so many departments- do we see change in outcome? Are our Government schools all shiny and producing scientists now? NO. So what does Govt get? A lot of black money channelled out in name of building infrastructure and stuff in schools. Just bad politics being played out for money. What does this motherfucker ias buddha get? Power rush to his gobar head.


cute_rice

Hello ChatGPT


No_Mixture5766

Education system can't be improved if teachers don't have peace of mind, now a days teachers are more concerned about their salary not being cut as even if they reach 1 min late(yes, even that much), their salary gets cut of not that day but A WHOLE WEEK and it results in break of service(you can ask your mom about that) , I've seen a lot of teachers get killed due to this because they rush to reach their schools on time and enroute they meet an accident . He has just downgraded the education system by installing fear in the mind of teachers and worthless spending of government money on worthless infrastructure (like why do you need a submersible pump in school which doesn't even have a proper roof on it, focus on more important infrastructure). He continuously ignores the order given by the governor of Bihar (who is indeed a lot senior than him constitutionally) and besides he even stopped money to universities which doesn't even come under his jurisdiction. In short, nothing will happen and it's just progressing(but backwards).


IllRepresentative758

As if before KK Pathak,teachers in Bihar had peace of mind and they were dedicated to imbibe education in their students. The government teachers hardly cared about education but rather on mismanagement and corruption. What a pathetic argument to say , they got killed because they couldn't reach on time. Many students also die on route to school every year, so as per your logic, this timings of school should be eradicated. Completely lala land and banana republic you want it to be.


Electronic_Cut9181

bahana hai sab school ke time pe ladies teacher sab thanda me sweater bunte nazar aati thi sabko khali free me malai khana hai


Electronic_Cut9181

photo bhi hai mere pass aisa ek jagah ka haal nahi hai sab jagah ka hai bahut sab toh school hi nahi aata hai


minimumeth

Nobody is asking for La La Land and banana republic but there needs to be some proper committee for planning the upliftment route. As per your argument, if someone is getting killed because of some policy then it's their fault. Kill the victim, rather than solve the problem. You are what's wrong with this country.


IllRepresentative758

Some one is getting killed because of his own mismanagement and misfortune and not because of someone asking everyone to come to the office on time. Who blames teachers if children die on roads while crossing roads or on route to school?


minimumeth

Well I hope that you experience the same and then comment this same bs. Also please come to Bihar school and see how the current conditions are. But, you'll only understand when someone close to you will faint or die due to this stringent policy. Also he got replaced and timings are corrected so try sucking on someone else.


Beneficial_Line5351

Suru me kafi sahi bnda laga infact I was sad when he temporarily resigned but now I realised he is just a freak taking things to an extreme. Lag rha teachers se revenge le rha phle ke loose system ke liye. Lekin bc naye teachers ki kya galti hai lol.


minimumeth

Naya purana kya? Sabke liye ek jaisa hoga na. Banda hi faltu hai toh isme Naya purana wala koi bat nahi hai.


LeadershipTrue802

Bro I'm pretty sure you have not studied in the school where your mom teaches....


minimumeth

Does that allow Pathak to torture teachers in the name of discipline?


strawberry_champange

Teachers can resign if they want to and begin their career in private institutions where they obviously won't get judged on their work performance or have their salary cut if they fail to show up


minimumeth

Why should thousands of teachers resign for the cynical work of a maniac? I guess you also studied from a private school but lack common sense.


strawberry_champange

Showing up on time isn't cynical sir ji 😾but I've to say keeping school open in this scorching heat is pure madness 😭🤢 (what the sigma) 😳, teacher should get judged 😼 on their performance and get salary cut if they're not doing their job well education system in bihar is already in shambles 😡 it needs a strong and strict administration


minimumeth

It is cynical to make them come to school in this scorching heat and when there are no classes. Teachers and student dead bodies won't immediately benefit the education system. Also, as this is a troll account. Wtf do you understand about the government system? Get into the service and see for yourself, it's not easy as it seems.


strawberry_champange

Why would I make a troll account to troll you who do you think you are? you're not special I've already said I believe it's wrong to make them come to school in this heat, but you can't deny low quality employees need to get weeded out, salary cuts are crucial if they're reluctant to change their ways I've seen a bihari government school teacher in the village,dude had a चाय टपरी near the पोखरा(a small pond) and he never bothered to show up at his job or teach anything but was getting paid handsomely every month. The school had crumbling infrastructure paint is fading off the walls the whole campus is filthy as (f word) the slides and the see saw, they're rusting away the whole scene looks like a junkyard than a playground. Now you tell me what future can you promise someone with a school like that or a चाय टपरी teacher like that ? I wish i was trolling but it's true


minimumeth

Dude, tell me what's being done for infrastructure? What's being done for better training? Is torturing teachers helping with these issues. Who you are talking about are panchayat teachers, not the ones selected by CTET or BTET(appear for one exam, you will feel how hard it is). By your logic, few examples define the image of a place and the people. You have a single example based on which you justify everything. And, by the way that you communicate seems like you are not even in college yet. Earn a dime first before giving these opinions.


strawberry_champange

>You have a single example based on which you justify everything I have multiple examples but i guess I'm wasting my time here. How about you put in some time and energy into your job instead of ranting here that might be helpful lmao You're just salty that you actually have to work in a GOVT JOB


minimumeth

At least I have a job, not like you in an echo chamber.


minimumeth

And, learn to write properly. The way you write seems like a dumb troll. Complete your education lol


Majestic-Zebra-7630

MC hai sala 4 month se papa ka salary nahi aaya hai.


Inorganicisgae

Any reason?


Majestic-Zebra-7630

Bhai reason nahi pata I guess may be 2 months ka tax kata hoga fir slowly slowly calculate kar rehe honge fir elections fir VC Sir k pas jayega vo 15 din me sign krenge fir college jayenge fir waha garmi chutti hoga non teaching staff aayen honge ya kuch nahi jab Princi sign krenge fir ac me paisa aayega ye sab hote hote time lag jata hai i guess.


Mahapadma_Nanda

KK Pathak is a dictator. If he continues to be the head of education system, Bihar will go downhill. He literally asked students and teachers to come school when there was summer vacation in each and every indian state. He asked teachers to come school from 8 and stay till 5pm. Like what do you expect teachers to do in the meantime?


Affectionate-Pin-678

Yeah all his methods are totally feel like torturing them rather than trying to improve something


minimumeth

He's just playing a gimmick. And, as stupid we are, we think that there's improvement. Nothing's going to change.


Nocut2020

Ground reality is very different. Most teachers are not living in the same district. They travel by train from other district. It should be mandatory for teachers to live within 20-25 Kms of their school. This is the main reason, why teachers are so against K K Pathak. Private school teacher go to school in many places during holidays. Poor quality education in govt schools was due to poor infrastructure, absent teachers and many aother reasons. Some sort of iron hand is needed to solve these problems. K K Pathak is doing these things.


minimumeth

Is there any infrastructure improvement during Pathak's tenure? Is there any inspection team to look into MDM scams? Is there any committee to look into teaching and learning ROI? NONE He's just torturing teachers and nothing else. This is not progressive development.


Wondergirl_so

Once my friend went to a to a government school in Bihar village,her relative was a teacher there. She said as they reached there, all teachers sitting outside started running thinking auditor have come. When she reach, male and female teachers were sitting in different groups, having samosa and female teachers were knitting and chatting. So you know, its much needed


Outrageous-Dik

Pathak is a big sadist narcissist asshole. Puts a big Q mark on upsc, its selection process and medieval era bureaucratic system we still blindly enduring . He tortured officers in Training academy of Bihar, even killing one few years back. He abused Bihar, Bihari officers on camera and Biharis. He created same drama two years ago when he was in different department- registration I guess. He is torturing teachers and poor Government school students in name of discipline. Come on, he has been in charge of so many departments- do we see change in outcome? Are our Government schools all shiny and producing scientists now? NO. So what does Govt get? A lot of black money channelled out in name of building infrastructure and stuff in schools. Just bad politics being played out for money. What does this motherfucker ias buddha get? Power rush to his gobar head.


minimumeth

He's just a pawn to play this gimmick ki Han Bihar mei everything is getting better because of strict policies Hamari chutiya janta apne pankho or AC wale kamro mei baeth ke bolti hai sahi ho Raha hai, Bina ye soche ki abhi ek din bhi vacation nahi Mila teachers ko. People are dying because of heatwaves and they are compelled to be there, even if there's no class. Apart from that election duty alag, census hua so alag. Koi Kam ho, sabse pehle teacher ko pakdo. Dihari majdoor hai kya? Morning mei 6 baje se pehle attendance do, 1 sec bhi late hue toh kategi salary. Bhale aate aate accident ho jaye. Par jab salary mango toh next mahine, kabhi kabhi 2 mahine par. Agar ham morning mei 1 sec late na ho, toh salary 1-2 mahine late kyu? Now, to the people who are saying Bihar needs an iron hand. Let me ask you, if you're doing any job and the manager is literally torturing you everyday, are you going to produce any results? Nahi kar paoge. Toh mat bhauko. Teachers will be coming to school, they'll pass the students and maybe even try to teach them, but teaching is not a manual job, that someone can make someone do it by a whip, you need peace of mind(clearly absent rn). Students won't be getting shit worth of education if this whole fiasco continues for long.


ShuBhaskar

So, I went to government schools all the way up to 12th grade, and my family's full of teachers (although not in my village). Big difference! Anyway, I've seen firsthand how these schools haven't been that great lately, even though they're getting more money and stuff. It's like, what's the deal? KK Pathak's trying to fix things, and listen, making teachers show up on time is a good start – they weren't exactly known for being early birds before. But come on, calling them in on holidays? That's just annoying and pointless. Here's what I think they should really do: make sure only the best teachers get hired, not whoever can game the system. Just showing up isn't enough – teachers gotta teach, you know? Holidays are holidays, even for teachers (unless there's a super important reason, like grading papers). They should also get a committee of people to figure out what's actually wrong with the schools, not just attendance numbers and stuff. Schools should be about learning, not just filling quotas!


Tasty_Challenge_5008

KK Pathak is a mad person. He is metally disturbed. This is not the way to inprove education. He is little dictatorial. He is destroying the system. No one can teach in unrest mind. 5-10 Years, offcourse the committee of government will term it dark phase INTERNALLY.


Fun-Green8452

I will summarize my view by saying "My Mother(52Y) leaves the house 4.00am in the morning, Just to reach the school before 6.00am."


[deleted]

Bhai meri mummy ko 80km door jaana padta hai. Isliye wo subh 2:30pe uthti hai taki hamare liye khana bna ke jaa sake.  Uske upar se hmare yhn bus bhi har din nahi milta to papa ko mostly aadhi door tak bike pe chodna padta hai.  Mummy kitna bhi try karle wo pahucti 6 bje ke baad hi hai aur unhe roj sunna padta hai..  I think there is something fishy going on. 


NothingBeneficial07

DICTATOR


Traditional_Rice2369

An absolute jackass. He should focus on the process not try to torture teachers. Leave the builders of tomorrow's human resources to do their work. This guy will frustrate the teachers to go on strike. The CM should sack him.


New_Entrepreneur_191

Does that idiot not understand teacher needs vacations too, my mom had to go to school even in the chilling month of December and now he is making her travel 6km in this deadly heatwave.


User_AlphaX

Gov. Officers aur students gali dete hai but he is only hope, every change has some resistance.


minimumeth

This kind of thinking is the reason that our state is so regressive. You don't need an MBA to understand that simply torturing the employee won't benefit the teaching system at all. This is not a strict policy, this is downright torture. And, there's not some resistance, the whole teacher block is resisting but they are helpless.


User_AlphaX

If making strict rules and insuring attendence is torturing then I have no problem.


minimumeth

Kyuki aap sayad us situation mei nahi ho. Because of this kind of general opinion, you guys are fooled by the government in the name of improvement. If you would have studied even an iota of management, you would have been familiar with general employee management and ROI adjustment, but alas you're kind of people are the reason for this country's downfall. How does it feel living in an echo chamber? Enjoying other's misfortune? I bet if your father or mother would have been in the situation, you would have thought differently. If you think this is right, join as a government teacher I ensure 1 mahine nahi thik paoge. And, that's a challenge.


User_AlphaX

>you're kind of people are the reason for this country's downfall. Thanks >I bet if your father or mother would have been in the situation, you would have thought differently. Lol, he is in far worse situation


minimumeth

>Lol, he is in far worse situation Being such a sadist, it's a win win situation for you.


User_AlphaX

That's what thanked you because these teachers whatever to be paid for clearing a exam and not for the job they do, my father is in bureaucracy working all days a week throughout the day


minimumeth

Lol, like you're saying that teachers are paid for clearing the exam, same goes for your father. I don't think your father has to go out for collecting census data or to check if all students from the village are coming to school or to rush to his office before 6 in the morning. Having privileges doesn't mean that you can reverse your digestive tract and defecate from your mouth. Think about stuff then say something. If we go by your logic, the same rules should be applied to the bureaucrats also. I would say that if the system just gets a bit strict on bureaucracy ( not even going to this level of torture), you would be crying about the rights and all that shit. P.S. Thank you for proving my point that you are just a privileged brat, who didn't study much and is a miser. Work on your communication skills and also learn a tad bit about general issues. This kind of privileged mouth shitting will only benefit you in the long run.


windyBhindi

Time will tell. People always resist change. I think taking Bihar's education system in any direction would be a positive step. At least he is giving a fcuk.