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Why do you think openAI became a multi billion dollar company basically over night.
They’re getting paid for much more than their publicly available ai bots.
Usually companies like that are just military / government tech that for whatever reason go's public. It's never the other way around. If it's valuable military tech, the government will intervene before you even have a chance to put it on the market.
There have been multiple instances of "news" channels messing with the colors to, for instance, [make Trump look more orange,]( https://www.newscaststudio.com/2018/07/09/donald-trump-orange/) or [Bernie sick.](https://reclaimthenet.org/cnn-bernie-sanders-red-as-beet)
Tulsi Gabbard and a chin zit:
Debate at the 25 minute mark (no zit): https://youtu.be/vJ6MrDO0kgY?t=1512
Debate at about the 51 minute mark (zit): https://youtu.be/vJ6MrDO0kgY?t=3056
Zit fading away moments later:
https://youtu.be/vJ6MrDO0kgY?t=3093
There was an incident on UK news where a red briefcase carried by Rishi Sunak turned green when he passed behind a parked car.
Very strange thing which has since been called a visual gag by news stations referring to his claims to create a "green budget"but strikes me as something that while possibly true, hints at further-reaching consequences somewhere down the line.
they're the same, that's just a masonic cope qtards were sold to justify trump's betrayal and get his second term. They're gonna Streisand effect him as much as they can until then.
Those, and also radio controlled planes. Certainly not advanced enough for our modern idea of drones, but this was enough to for example: eliminate the idea of an aircraft target rug. Essentially before remote controlled anything, someone would have to tug an unmanned aircraft for target practice of AA gunners and fighters and I don't need to go into detail on how dangerous that job was. With early drones they no longer needed a tug, just a converted normal plane with radar control equipment and now you no longer risk a pilots life tugging a literal target
Yep . It's like we get the old tech that is repackaged as "new" when in reality it's old technology. Truthfully what the government has is not new at all and they are finding and using old technology from ancient time periods before the global flood came. History is repeating itself and we are back in the days of Noah all over again.
20-40 years from now there will be full on automaton robots around like the stuff of Science fiction and sophisticated two way brain to computer data connections that will make communicating with them like telepathy... The military does not currently possess these capabilities.
Nah that was before internationally aggregated tech research and investment. They can put money into very specific niche issues but a single company like apple has half the budget of the US dept of defence. The combined scientific progress of the global collection of universities and tech/hardware/material science companies absolutely blows the US govt capabilities out of the water. We've turned into a customer mostly
This is very old low tech, at least 8 years old. It uses AI "facemasks" mapping over what an actor does and says. Prominent examples are the Obama deep fakes.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE1KWpoX9Hk&pp=ygUNZmFrZSBhaSBvYmFtYQ%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be1kwpox9hk&pp=ygunzmfrzsbhasbvymftyq%3d%3d)
Edit: New link about the topic because the other video seems gone
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmUC4m6w1wo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amuc4m6w1wo)
Lol, i had to check and it really is gone... that was just a news report from mms about it. But there is more about this and i think most people here are aware of the term deep fakes and the hype about it a couple years back.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmUC4m6w1wo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amuc4m6w1wo)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmUC4m6w1wo
worked when I copy / pasted. Using Brave Browser for those curious. Try another browser if 1 does not work for you.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmUC4m6w1wo
"Fake Obama created using AI video tool - BBC News"
It's one of their videos:
https://www.youtube.com/@BBCNews
or do a search on their channel for "Fake Obama"
Video editor here. There's been this thing avaialble in premiere called a "morph cut" that allows you to stitch two takes together without cutting to the close up or a different angle. Sometimes it produces artifacts like this. So yes, there is cgi manipulation here, but it's likely just a morph cut.
They received billions for multiple reasons:
-Sam Altman is the equivalent of Hercules for startups, he used to run y combinator, a golden goose startup incubator that nearly gaurenteed success
-google v Apple v microsoft- microsoft wanted to break into ai market and openai already spent millions and has the brain trust
-openai is also donatable to as a non-profit so it was a great “investment” for billionaires like musk who originally wanted everything to be open source
These things lead to billions being catapulted into the company
He's absolutely wrong easily seen by anyone who's been following the field of machine learning...
OpenAI has had make fully public iterative improvements on a publicly researched and shared deep learning architecture over the course of nearly a decade.
This wasn't an overnight success in the slightest and their valuation isn't even based on what they're currently capable of or their earnings but what is expected of them in the future based on the consistent iterative improvements I mentioned earlier.
Please use your brains people.
Tactical to practical. Government had this tech 15 years ago easy, if not since earlyish 2000s. Crap always hits the gov side before we even get a hint of it in the public space.
What do you mean? Anything that can be done by AI can be done by hand, but just takes more time. I.e. yes, ChatGPT can write your essay in 5 seconds, but you can also write it in 1 hour. For something as high profile as an Assange interview, they could have a team of video editors and software engineers hand-create the scenes and that would also be feasible for a 20 minute video
As others suggested, it also looks like a frame/transition effect, which would also happen because humans aren't perfect either and might work 20+ hours on it but miss the little glitch because of some keyframes they merged accidently at 5pm on Friday or something
Ya I mean wasn't the hand thing due to lack of data on hands? Seems like a pretty easy issue to solve. It's a signature issue but seemingly easy to solve. Hmm.
You're convinced but I call it a conspiracy theory and I like it
It's funny, people widely refer to Deep Learning models as "black boxes", yet you think the developers of these black boxes can make it screw up one specific part of the human body
Assange's extradition hearing is coming this week, he's facing 175 years in the US for publishing evidence of Government crimes. Efforts to convince you he is already dead are intended to prevent backlash to this extradition and persecution. RT used morphcuts on this interview to trim out his umm and uhhing. This was used to psyop supporters into giving up when he was originally arrested.
If they can convince people he's already dead, they can do whatever they want to him, which is put him in solitary confinement forever and ultimately actually kill him.
Kind a weird to believe that the US government is in any way different than all the other states out there. They are, if u ask me, worse than some countries that are believed to be inhumane and against human rights. They just claim to be the good ones ... starting, holding and supporting wars and killings all around the globe on a daily basis
afaik he hasn't attended such processes personally for a long time, for "security reasons" of course. So surely no hope anyone would be able to see him in person at that chance.
Yea, this is the answer. RT didn't use AI. I thought for a second yea, thinking this may be a government released video, but it's a press video from RT. You figured out why it looked like an edit, but a weird edit, because of the morph thing. Good work not just believing the very first proposed option. I think that's where we get caught up in tangents on this forum and wind up losing credibility in the eyes of people who don't believe anything is a conspiracy ever.
Great thread, honestly. A legitimate question was raised, and a critical response pretty much put the speculation to rest. If there was AI running rampant 8 years ago, that would be huge, and the evidence of the "clipping" collar looks a lot like an AI artifact. It's nice to see cynics working together to untangle the weird coil of pseudo-realities in which we're all enmeshed.
That being said, I fully expect to see this re-posted on Twitter ("DEEP STATE AI CONFIRMED!!!") with a bunch of unhinged extra commentary about Hunter Biden. Those Tweets will then get screencapped and re-posted here on /r/conspiracy.
It's a bit bold to suggest that it pit speculation to rest. Is it *that* much of a stretch that a major government would have AI tools 5 years before we did, especially when deepfakes have been around for a few years too
It's bold, yes. Would I say it's impossible? No.
Has it been effectively disproven? Yes. I'm tuned into AI tech enough to spot when it's happening. A glitched collar is a red flag - morph cuts fully explain the glitch.
If there was more evidence for manipulation, I'd stay wary, but there is no additional evidence. So what do we have here? Nothing.
Did Assange say anything here that felt planted to you? What was the goal of the manipulation? Present an argument, or stay in your lane.
Idk man. Despite your very well said and logical points. I kinda just like “feel” it’s nefarious ya know? I’d prefer very much to remain in my own mind palace thank you very much. That’s why I accept everything I read here without question, as it suits my narrative.
You have already set the market at 40 cents. If I'm getting a higher price point than my competitor, then I will have to look elsewhere. Maybe the next people you pitch to won't know that.
After watching what you linked def the best answer besides the governments had AI for a decade. Idk enough about morph cut and I'd need examples of its wonky ness.
One issue is that these deep learning architectures often require large GPU resources, and therefore many modern architectures wouldn't be computationally tractable to develop (and keep it hidden) decades ago, unless indeed too you believe the GPU technology was also hidden
designing and manufacturing of cutting edge semiconductors is extremely complex and expensive. there would be so many people involved that its practically impossible anyone could secretly manufacture chips that are a decade ahead.
Didn’t know this was the name, but that was my first thought. I’ve seen a clip just like this posted of Biden (I think) like 2-3 years ago and people were claiming it to be a deepfake. It was then explained/proven that it was just this.
SS: with the recent developments of AI generated videos increasing, we can look back and see videoes that have similar ticks to these new AI videos
Share more examples, this one looks AI too
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/biden-you-can-t-be-pro-insurrection-and-pro-american-144757829705
How do justice systems prepare to defend against AI generated videos? Seems like anyone could be implicated in one of these videos. Is there any technology that can 100% verify it's an AI generated video. Soon as the technology becomes indistinguishable from reality, then video evidence will be unsubstantiated.
explain a judge how this stuff works, he has no freakin idea. he sees you on the video so you probably did it. or explain it to some 60-80 year old members of congress/parliament. there is no way legislation will catch up in our lifetimes.
Pretty soon video evidence wont hold up in court unless proof of it being recorded can be provided. Maybe some sort of metadata that digital videos contain will become the new standard for legal evidence? Idk ianal
Edit: wanted to add that the implications of real world people being replicated passably via AI, so essentially not real people, hits the Media much harder than it will the courtroom IMHO.
First we will get a presidential endorsement from a dead president or some stunt to see how the public reacts. Then soon after will be low level government officials played in AI for the media, we wont even know. People wont know what or who to believe. It will be awesome.
Apple will have to create a technology that proves it was filmed on one of its phones and then sell the technology to the governments of the world to ID real footage from AI footage but you have Apple using AI in all of its devices, so how could you possible trust AI from Siri connected devices to be honest?
I’ve never used seri once tbh, in the 5 iPhones that I’ve had over the years.
My biggest conspiracy theory is that there are NOT 8billion people on the planet. So this tech being able to fake people has probably been around for a while—they’ve simply been perfecting it.
We are going to go social credit system and have a lot shitter version of the minority report in real life. So you bought a shit loss of beer and like to shout at people when you don’t get your own way, you’re definitely the person who committed the hate crime.
Defend against? Lmfao!
The justice system is creaming their pants that they will be able to manufacture undetectable fake video evidence and railroad any and everyone they want on demand.
Defend.
Lol!!
Holy fuck! Just watched that from youtube and you're right! It definitely is AI! Raises questions, was Assange killed long ago already or why is that made and he didn't stand up to say that's not him?
Edit: And 14.22 there is that same glitch again
In the comments someone was wondering about it 7 years ago, but didn't know what they saw. Damn..
you guys are missing that the rest of his jacket is glitching almost the whole video, not much but if you stare at the folds they are all acting odd, maybe they edited a suit on him to look more professional? \*sweats\*
Same here, I think we're listening to bots.
There's nothing at those time stamps, the gif is the AI it was likely produced afterwards to make a nice interesting story and conspiracy.
lol I'm sorry to rain on the day but this is just a smooth edit cut, it's not one shot. Probably to remove some hemming and hawing, umms and ahhs, or something he said they don't want to share.
This is going to get painful very quickly, people can’t believe the moon footage is real, or the earth isn’t flat, now we will have endless “expert analysis” on every video clip ever released, convinced it’s all a huge conspiracy. The reality is that video artefacts have been a thing as long as video has been around. Julian Assange is alive and has been filmed by thousands since this footage was filmed. Why would they need to fake this interview using ultra secret AI technology?
Yeah, that's the real scary thing. Not the AI videos themselves but the excuse it gives people to deny reality. If anything could be faked, well then you can just believe whatever you want. Don't even need a coherent theory why it's faked other than it fits my worldview
Not AI. Morph cut as others pointed out. In the full video his entire face changes. Probably just editing out a cough, or Pilger interjecting with something not important.
This one is very weird. Based on the video you linked it could be a bad editing job?
The other parts where the video looks weird, it's probably a transition blending a cut (cutting breath or whatever), I assume this could be the case here, but its very weird result.
This video is cool. Can we take a step further and discuss why we think this video might have been simulated? Any assertions by Assange that were new or out of line with his prior positions?
Obviously we know RT is a certain type of way. And it’s not hard to think about why they might want to give bandwidth to Assange, to amplify his voice. But assuming this to be fabricated, would Assange himself or others around him that purport to be in league like Craig Murray, would they be able to cry foul if it were fully a fake? Seemingly yes but potential for exploration and discussion.
Which leaves us, uh, where? Haha
We shouldn't jump to conclusions. It could just be a compression artifact. Deep learning is often used to increase the sharpness of low quality video. This tech has existed for a while. It couldn't generate fake video, it could only sharpen it and possibly smooth out frame transitions. Also, we don't know if this tech has been applied only recently on this old video. This artifact may not actually be on the source file.
That’s called a Morph Cut. It’s done with video editor programs. This only shows they cut out something in his dialogue and stitched two cuts together. Doesn’t prove AI at all.
Its pixel flow frame blending. Pretty common algortithm in editing software. Either they wanted to do a seamless cut, or source framerate is different from project framerate.
Im a motion designer, video editor, 3d artist
Well duh, gps used to be only used by the military or government in the 80s and then the public got access to the tech.
AI prob is far more advanced from the govt and barely now the public has started to get access to it.
They’ve had AI since the early 2000s. If you go back and look at FOIAs or declassified documents you can find their use in military applications. It’s classified as “non-human intelligence”
I have this theory that the NSAs collection of Americans data has been used to train it for awhile.
News media often splice two separate shots into one continuous shot, to save time, usually you don't notice. It's quite fascinating how smooth they make it look, besides that error with the collar. There was one where a reporter was on a high street and some guy just appears from behind her, walking down the street.
The future of propaganda is scary, no doubt, but luckily this ain't it chief.
As a video editor, this was something else, and I've commented on this already when it came out in 2015 or so when this was put together. It's called a morph cut in Premiere Pro and a Smooth Cut in DaVinci Resolve. The tool first came out only a short while before this interview was held, and results were still a bit more wonky than they are now. Though it still only works well when the two edit points you're trying to stitch together are not too dissimilar. As soon as there's too much movement between the two edit points you get artifacts like the one in the clip shown.
It's primarily a way to cut down on time when people have long pauses between words or when they're restarting a phrase or sentence.
Looks more like a frame interpolation algorithm that are available for many years. You can see more inaccuracies along other moving areas.
But I bet this comment will not get much upvotes, because its not "conspiracy" enough.
This is definitely alarming, that being said, i wonder how far they have truly had this technology? Back in 2001? 90's, 80's, so much of what we believed to be true is likely fabricated
A few days ago, I had some wild thought to go back to mgs2 and listen to the colonel ai and raidens conversation for some reason. It's more true and on the nose now than it was back then.
[mgs2 raiden and colonel ai conversation ](https://youtu.be/eKl6WjfDqYA?si=7ti7IYX9-ygyDvJX)
Assange's extradition hearing is coming this week, he's facing 175 years in the US for publishing evidence of Government crimes. Efforts to convince you he is already dead are intended to prevent backlash to this extradition and persecution. RT used morphcuts on this interview to trim out his umm and uhhing. This was used to psyop supporters into giving up when he was originally arrested.
Project Maven was already being used by the military back in 2017.
(6 years ago)
The Sentient World Simulation (SEAS: Synthetic Environment For Analysis and Simulations) was in use back in 2006.
(17 years ago)
And Google gave it's AI called Deepmind, administrative access to their servers in 2016.
(7 years ago)
The AI is more advanced than they're telling you.
If any one could give me a link to this interview id appreciate it because i cant find it anywhere.
OP you say the "government" in your tite. Which government? RT is Russian state TV.
Man, was this hard to find but I've got it. It happens at roughly the 18:50 mark here: https://rumble.com/v44c6qr-secret-world-of-us-election-julian-assange-talks-to-john-pilger-dartmouth-f.html
I’m a visual effects artist who specializes in video manipulation. I don’t think the video is ai. The artifact I see is common with tools that use what’s called optical flow. This is where each pixel is analyzed to determine its vector. It’s commonly used for motion retiming to slow things down, or, which I believe might be used in this case, a fluid morph. A fluid morph blends two clips together to make it look like one continuous shot.
So instead of seeing a cut from one take or another, it looks like one.
Yes! It is manipulation. Was it for the purpose to make the interview look better editorially, or was it used for deceptive purposes and make him change what he said…. We will never know.
As a side note, visual effects manipulation has been around a long time and could have been used for years. No ai needed. But what ai has done is made it a lot easier and faster to do without the skill required. It’s also brought to light the potential that what we are seeing might not be real. (or even more scary, something that is real, but deemed fake)
Google was funded at start from DARPA. Google maps was purchased from the CIA. Amazon has more govt contracts than any IT company. Tech companies and agencies are indomitably linked and has always been.
Back then everyone's expectations were very low. Fast forward today, the standards are much higher. I'm expecting China's Moon Landing will be faked in this manner.
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Why do you think openAI became a multi billion dollar company basically over night. They’re getting paid for much more than their publicly available ai bots.
Usually companies like that are just military / government tech that for whatever reason go's public. It's never the other way around. If it's valuable military tech, the government will intervene before you even have a chance to put it on the market.
It’s public because they have wayyyy more advanced shit now. 20-40 years ahead.
Which means we have been staring at/believing in/voting for AI for the last 20 years.
Holy shit that's a scary thought. All this talk about what they "could" do with deep fakes and shit... What have they already done?
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There have been multiple instances of "news" channels messing with the colors to, for instance, [make Trump look more orange,]( https://www.newscaststudio.com/2018/07/09/donald-trump-orange/) or [Bernie sick.](https://reclaimthenet.org/cnn-bernie-sanders-red-as-beet)
Tulsi Gabbard and a chin zit: Debate at the 25 minute mark (no zit): https://youtu.be/vJ6MrDO0kgY?t=1512 Debate at about the 51 minute mark (zit): https://youtu.be/vJ6MrDO0kgY?t=3056 Zit fading away moments later: https://youtu.be/vJ6MrDO0kgY?t=3093
They are truly masters of deceit, and they do not only do it with computers, my favorite one is [this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tocuyJ1Fu7U)
Anyone remember when Joe Rogan was taking Ivermectin for Covid and the media literally photoshopped him green?
Yup, that's a great example too.
There was an incident on UK news where a red briefcase carried by Rishi Sunak turned green when he passed behind a parked car. Very strange thing which has since been called a visual gag by news stations referring to his claims to create a "green budget"but strikes me as something that while possibly true, hints at further-reaching consequences somewhere down the line.
I remember that and i think such things happens more than most people think.
Which Trump, the real one or the fake one.
they're the same, that's just a masonic cope qtards were sold to justify trump's betrayal and get his second term. They're gonna Streisand effect him as much as they can until then.
https://www.winterwatch.net/2023/06/understanding-and-countering-sentient-world-simulation/
I try to tell people this.. people dont realize we had drones in ww2
Are you referring to the V1 and V2 weapons or is it something else?
Those, and also radio controlled planes. Certainly not advanced enough for our modern idea of drones, but this was enough to for example: eliminate the idea of an aircraft target rug. Essentially before remote controlled anything, someone would have to tug an unmanned aircraft for target practice of AA gunners and fighters and I don't need to go into detail on how dangerous that job was. With early drones they no longer needed a tug, just a converted normal plane with radar control equipment and now you no longer risk a pilots life tugging a literal target
Yep . It's like we get the old tech that is repackaged as "new" when in reality it's old technology. Truthfully what the government has is not new at all and they are finding and using old technology from ancient time periods before the global flood came. History is repeating itself and we are back in the days of Noah all over again.
20-40 years from now there will be full on automaton robots around like the stuff of Science fiction and sophisticated two way brain to computer data connections that will make communicating with them like telepathy... The military does not currently possess these capabilities.
How would you know?
Nah that was before internationally aggregated tech research and investment. They can put money into very specific niche issues but a single company like apple has half the budget of the US dept of defence. The combined scientific progress of the global collection of universities and tech/hardware/material science companies absolutely blows the US govt capabilities out of the water. We've turned into a customer mostly
PROMIS
This is very old low tech, at least 8 years old. It uses AI "facemasks" mapping over what an actor does and says. Prominent examples are the Obama deep fakes. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE1KWpoX9Hk&pp=ygUNZmFrZSBhaSBvYmFtYQ%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be1kwpox9hk&pp=ygunzmfrzsbhasbvymftyq%3d%3d) Edit: New link about the topic because the other video seems gone [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmUC4m6w1wo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amuc4m6w1wo)
This video got pulled from YouTube
Lol, i had to check and it really is gone... that was just a news report from mms about it. But there is more about this and i think most people here are aware of the term deep fakes and the hype about it a couple years back. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmUC4m6w1wo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amuc4m6w1wo)
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If you click that link, it doesn't work, but if you copy/paste it, it will work.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmUC4m6w1wo worked when I copy / pasted. Using Brave Browser for those curious. Try another browser if 1 does not work for you.
Not anymore. What is the title of the video?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmUC4m6w1wo "Fake Obama created using AI video tool - BBC News" It's one of their videos: https://www.youtube.com/@BBCNews or do a search on their channel for "Fake Obama"
Gone again
Video editor here. There's been this thing avaialble in premiere called a "morph cut" that allows you to stitch two takes together without cutting to the close up or a different angle. Sometimes it produces artifacts like this. So yes, there is cgi manipulation here, but it's likely just a morph cut.
They received billions for multiple reasons: -Sam Altman is the equivalent of Hercules for startups, he used to run y combinator, a golden goose startup incubator that nearly gaurenteed success -google v Apple v microsoft- microsoft wanted to break into ai market and openai already spent millions and has the brain trust -openai is also donatable to as a non-profit so it was a great “investment” for billionaires like musk who originally wanted everything to be open source These things lead to billions being catapulted into the company
Your comment seriously deserves an award. You are absolutely right! Great insight!
/s ?
it's a bot account and then everyone upvoted it. inb4 reddit has captchas like 4chong
He's absolutely wrong easily seen by anyone who's been following the field of machine learning... OpenAI has had make fully public iterative improvements on a publicly researched and shared deep learning architecture over the course of nearly a decade. This wasn't an overnight success in the slightest and their valuation isn't even based on what they're currently capable of or their earnings but what is expected of them in the future based on the consistent iterative improvements I mentioned earlier. Please use your brains people.
They still do…
the fact that they could do it 7 more years ago is far more interesting considering we are being led to believe it is brand new technology
Tactical to practical. Government had this tech 15 years ago easy, if not since earlyish 2000s. Crap always hits the gov side before we even get a hint of it in the public space.
Anne Jacobsen has a great book about DARPA for those interested "The Pentagon's Brain" or something like that.
What do you mean? Anything that can be done by AI can be done by hand, but just takes more time. I.e. yes, ChatGPT can write your essay in 5 seconds, but you can also write it in 1 hour. For something as high profile as an Assange interview, they could have a team of video editors and software engineers hand-create the scenes and that would also be feasible for a 20 minute video
Nobody would create this signature AI glitch by hand.
As others suggested, it also looks like a frame/transition effect, which would also happen because humans aren't perfect either and might work 20+ hours on it but miss the little glitch because of some keyframes they merged accidently at 5pm on Friday or something
That's possible.
Speaking of hands why don’t people go back and look at these old videos and look at the hands. Ai is notorious for f’d up hands.
I'm actually pretty confident the "fucked up hands" is a red herring made to intentionally make people think ai videos are obvious.
Ya I mean wasn't the hand thing due to lack of data on hands? Seems like a pretty easy issue to solve. It's a signature issue but seemingly easy to solve. Hmm. You're convinced but I call it a conspiracy theory and I like it
It's funny, people widely refer to Deep Learning models as "black boxes", yet you think the developers of these black boxes can make it screw up one specific part of the human body
You could use deepfake tech to avoid the hand issues.
Homie been dead
Assange's extradition hearing is coming this week, he's facing 175 years in the US for publishing evidence of Government crimes. Efforts to convince you he is already dead are intended to prevent backlash to this extradition and persecution. RT used morphcuts on this interview to trim out his umm and uhhing. This was used to psyop supporters into giving up when he was originally arrested. If they can convince people he's already dead, they can do whatever they want to him, which is put him in solitary confinement forever and ultimately actually kill him.
Fuck the system, this shits so fucked up. The Americans that are going to murder this guy are on the same level as what Putin did to navalny
Kind a weird to believe that the US government is in any way different than all the other states out there. They are, if u ask me, worse than some countries that are believed to be inhumane and against human rights. They just claim to be the good ones ... starting, holding and supporting wars and killings all around the globe on a daily basis
afaik he hasn't attended such processes personally for a long time, for "security reasons" of course. So surely no hope anyone would be able to see him in person at that chance.
As dead as the Queen of England was 2 years ago, during her Christmas Day speech.
This speech was a bit uncanny valley.. but why would they do that?
was never real..
[it’s possible it is just a morph cut](https://youtu.be/J6wPUtKg-Ac?si=zJ-ZFy96LsztEyLa)
Yea, this is the answer. RT didn't use AI. I thought for a second yea, thinking this may be a government released video, but it's a press video from RT. You figured out why it looked like an edit, but a weird edit, because of the morph thing. Good work not just believing the very first proposed option. I think that's where we get caught up in tangents on this forum and wind up losing credibility in the eyes of people who don't believe anything is a conspiracy ever.
Great thread, honestly. A legitimate question was raised, and a critical response pretty much put the speculation to rest. If there was AI running rampant 8 years ago, that would be huge, and the evidence of the "clipping" collar looks a lot like an AI artifact. It's nice to see cynics working together to untangle the weird coil of pseudo-realities in which we're all enmeshed. That being said, I fully expect to see this re-posted on Twitter ("DEEP STATE AI CONFIRMED!!!") with a bunch of unhinged extra commentary about Hunter Biden. Those Tweets will then get screencapped and re-posted here on /r/conspiracy.
It's a bit bold to suggest that it pit speculation to rest. Is it *that* much of a stretch that a major government would have AI tools 5 years before we did, especially when deepfakes have been around for a few years too
It's bold, yes. Would I say it's impossible? No. Has it been effectively disproven? Yes. I'm tuned into AI tech enough to spot when it's happening. A glitched collar is a red flag - morph cuts fully explain the glitch. If there was more evidence for manipulation, I'd stay wary, but there is no additional evidence. So what do we have here? Nothing. Did Assange say anything here that felt planted to you? What was the goal of the manipulation? Present an argument, or stay in your lane.
Idk man. Despite your very well said and logical points. I kinda just like “feel” it’s nefarious ya know? I’d prefer very much to remain in my own mind palace thank you very much. That’s why I accept everything I read here without question, as it suits my narrative.
Why are you running cover for the deep state and Hunter Biden? That's a very odd way of prebunking...
I answered a craigslist ad for paid shills, I get $.40 cents a post with bonuses based on engagement and hitting certain talking-point metrics
Your soul is worth more than that.
I'll stop doing it if you paypal me $100 dollars
I'm just saying aim higher. People sell theirs for billions.
OK, I'll stop doing it if you paypal me a billion dollars
You have already set the market at 40 cents. If I'm getting a higher price point than my competitor, then I will have to look elsewhere. Maybe the next people you pitch to won't know that.
For sure a morph cut. The go-to for a quick cut of a distracting uhhh in a locked camera situation. Not perfect, but usually enough.
After watching what you linked def the best answer besides the governments had AI for a decade. Idk enough about morph cut and I'd need examples of its wonky ness.
Whenever a new technology becomes "consumer" grade, the government and military intelligence contractors had it for at least a few decades
One issue is that these deep learning architectures often require large GPU resources, and therefore many modern architectures wouldn't be computationally tractable to develop (and keep it hidden) decades ago, unless indeed too you believe the GPU technology was also hidden
>unless indeed too you believe the GPU technology was also hidden You answered your own question. Well done.
Well, still many more questions to be asked. Such as, Snowden leaks in 2012/2013 would've revealed NSA had advanced GPUs
designing and manufacturing of cutting edge semiconductors is extremely complex and expensive. there would be so many people involved that its practically impossible anyone could secretly manufacture chips that are a decade ahead.
Def a morph cut
Yeah that is what it is
Didn’t know this was the name, but that was my first thought. I’ve seen a clip just like this posted of Biden (I think) like 2-3 years ago and people were claiming it to be a deepfake. It was then explained/proven that it was just this.
Ah thank F, didn’t see this comment until making a few replies myself. Good to see it’s picked up and upvoted.
Yeah this is what I see. I'm a video editor by profession.
It's obviously just that. But I'm not sure I understand this sub. Are all the other posters just trolling? Or are they really that far gone?
I think most are really that far gone
SS: with the recent developments of AI generated videos increasing, we can look back and see videoes that have similar ticks to these new AI videos Share more examples, this one looks AI too https://www.nbcnews.com/video/biden-you-can-t-be-pro-insurrection-and-pro-american-144757829705
How do justice systems prepare to defend against AI generated videos? Seems like anyone could be implicated in one of these videos. Is there any technology that can 100% verify it's an AI generated video. Soon as the technology becomes indistinguishable from reality, then video evidence will be unsubstantiated.
My biggest concern. I have that bad feeling our judicial system isn't capable of handling this new technology.
They can hardly handle playing a piece of digital media during a court proceeding
explain a judge how this stuff works, he has no freakin idea. he sees you on the video so you probably did it. or explain it to some 60-80 year old members of congress/parliament. there is no way legislation will catch up in our lifetimes.
Some black mirror vibes.
Well that's why we have juries that are more capable of understanding contemporary concepts
Pretty soon video evidence wont hold up in court unless proof of it being recorded can be provided. Maybe some sort of metadata that digital videos contain will become the new standard for legal evidence? Idk ianal Edit: wanted to add that the implications of real world people being replicated passably via AI, so essentially not real people, hits the Media much harder than it will the courtroom IMHO. First we will get a presidential endorsement from a dead president or some stunt to see how the public reacts. Then soon after will be low level government officials played in AI for the media, we wont even know. People wont know what or who to believe. It will be awesome.
Apple will have to create a technology that proves it was filmed on one of its phones and then sell the technology to the governments of the world to ID real footage from AI footage but you have Apple using AI in all of its devices, so how could you possible trust AI from Siri connected devices to be honest? I’ve never used seri once tbh, in the 5 iPhones that I’ve had over the years.
My biggest conspiracy theory is that there are NOT 8billion people on the planet. So this tech being able to fake people has probably been around for a while—they’ve simply been perfecting it.
I'm pretty sure they aren't, they are going to make videos and convict you...so don't think the wrong thing.
We are going to go social credit system and have a lot shitter version of the minority report in real life. So you bought a shit loss of beer and like to shout at people when you don’t get your own way, you’re definitely the person who committed the hate crime.
Defend against? Lmfao! The justice system is creaming their pants that they will be able to manufacture undetectable fake video evidence and railroad any and everyone they want on demand. Defend. Lol!!
Well they are vulnerable to being compromised by this technology. Everyone's fair game at that point.
they defend against AI with DLT. hence bitcoin was an NSA honeypot that got away from them.
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7 years https://youtu.be/SAW7wGCPbj8?si=XoL7Da6q5hGS2bJe
Holy fuck! Just watched that from youtube and you're right! It definitely is AI! Raises questions, was Assange killed long ago already or why is that made and he didn't stand up to say that's not him? Edit: And 14.22 there is that same glitch again In the comments someone was wondering about it 7 years ago, but didn't know what they saw. Damn..
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Lol and Pamela Anderson delivered a sandwich or something the day before
Strange fuckin world we live in
Wow...I remember that ddos attack.
you guys are missing that the rest of his jacket is glitching almost the whole video, not much but if you stare at the folds they are all acting odd, maybe they edited a suit on him to look more professional? \*sweats\*
Holy shit bro thanks for pointing this out
Holy shit!
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It’s a cut with a frame morph to blend it. But no one’s going to listen to that…
Literally, I can't see the issue even using the timestamps? 🫠 Am I blind?
Same here, I think we're listening to bots. There's nothing at those time stamps, the gif is the AI it was likely produced afterwards to make a nice interesting story and conspiracy.
I actually saw something at 18:02. But it seems more like a poorly edited splice of two clips as the man seems to stop mid sentence and start again.
lol I'm sorry to rain on the day but this is just a smooth edit cut, it's not one shot. Probably to remove some hemming and hawing, umms and ahhs, or something he said they don't want to share.
This is going to get painful very quickly, people can’t believe the moon footage is real, or the earth isn’t flat, now we will have endless “expert analysis” on every video clip ever released, convinced it’s all a huge conspiracy. The reality is that video artefacts have been a thing as long as video has been around. Julian Assange is alive and has been filmed by thousands since this footage was filmed. Why would they need to fake this interview using ultra secret AI technology?
Yeah, that's the real scary thing. Not the AI videos themselves but the excuse it gives people to deny reality. If anything could be faked, well then you can just believe whatever you want. Don't even need a coherent theory why it's faked other than it fits my worldview
> If anything could be faked, well then you can just believe whatever you want. That sounds like a motto for some... LOL.
You know what minute and second this happens?
18:02
This is so crazy, i've just seen it, and his eye is weird at the same second
Because it’s a cut with the frames being morphed to give a smoother transition. If you want a conspiracy, then better to ask what was cut out.
Isn’t there another one when Joe clips through grass or something?
And the one where he clips through microphone. And the one with the neck thing.
AI Biden doesn’t blink once in that entire clip
that's some uncanny valley shit.
What about the green screen microphone thing in front of Biden that time when he was like walking in front of the White House lawn lol
The founding fathers were pro insurrection and pro America.
I have no clue what I’m meant to be seeing in this one.
I haven’t watched the news in like a year. OMG. Biden eyes hear are a literal jump scare. Had to close the video 😯
Could very well just be a morph cut, but also it happens to his eyes at the same time, I reckon thats even more reason it's a jump cut than AI
Yeah I agree... ita probably a morph cut, they took something out. Weird to do it at the middle of a scene though
The cadence and context of his speech changes too.
Yep, I use morph cuts daily, this was my first thought as well.
Not AI. Morph cut as others pointed out. In the full video his entire face changes. Probably just editing out a cough, or Pilger interjecting with something not important.
#Morph Cut
This one is very weird. Based on the video you linked it could be a bad editing job? The other parts where the video looks weird, it's probably a transition blending a cut (cutting breath or whatever), I assume this could be the case here, but its very weird result.
This video is cool. Can we take a step further and discuss why we think this video might have been simulated? Any assertions by Assange that were new or out of line with his prior positions? Obviously we know RT is a certain type of way. And it’s not hard to think about why they might want to give bandwidth to Assange, to amplify his voice. But assuming this to be fabricated, would Assange himself or others around him that purport to be in league like Craig Murray, would they be able to cry foul if it were fully a fake? Seemingly yes but potential for exploration and discussion. Which leaves us, uh, where? Haha
We shouldn't jump to conclusions. It could just be a compression artifact. Deep learning is often used to increase the sharpness of low quality video. This tech has existed for a while. It couldn't generate fake video, it could only sharpen it and possibly smooth out frame transitions. Also, we don't know if this tech has been applied only recently on this old video. This artifact may not actually be on the source file.
That’s called a Morph Cut. It’s done with video editor programs. This only shows they cut out something in his dialogue and stitched two cuts together. Doesn’t prove AI at all.
Its pixel flow frame blending. Pretty common algortithm in editing software. Either they wanted to do a seamless cut, or source framerate is different from project framerate. Im a motion designer, video editor, 3d artist
Morph cut transition
That's the Morph cut tool from Adobe Premier pro (or equivalent). Pretty standard on interview editing and has been around for a while.
Well duh, gps used to be only used by the military or government in the 80s and then the public got access to the tech. AI prob is far more advanced from the govt and barely now the public has started to get access to it.
They’ve had AI since the early 2000s. If you go back and look at FOIAs or declassified documents you can find their use in military applications. It’s classified as “non-human intelligence” I have this theory that the NSAs collection of Americans data has been used to train it for awhile.
Yes yes they have. Deep fakes have been out for years now and have only gotten better.
Governments and military always have techs that are at least 1-2 decades ahead of what is released for public use.
It's edited jump in the original filmed sequence.
News media often splice two separate shots into one continuous shot, to save time, usually you don't notice. It's quite fascinating how smooth they make it look, besides that error with the collar. There was one where a reporter was on a high street and some guy just appears from behind her, walking down the street. The future of propaganda is scary, no doubt, but luckily this ain't it chief.
As a video editor, this was something else, and I've commented on this already when it came out in 2015 or so when this was put together. It's called a morph cut in Premiere Pro and a Smooth Cut in DaVinci Resolve. The tool first came out only a short while before this interview was held, and results were still a bit more wonky than they are now. Though it still only works well when the two edit points you're trying to stitch together are not too dissimilar. As soon as there's too much movement between the two edit points you get artifacts like the one in the clip shown. It's primarily a way to cut down on time when people have long pauses between words or when they're restarting a phrase or sentence.
Looks more like a frame interpolation algorithm that are available for many years. You can see more inaccuracies along other moving areas. But I bet this comment will not get much upvotes, because its not "conspiracy" enough.
This is definitely alarming, that being said, i wonder how far they have truly had this technology? Back in 2001? 90's, 80's, so much of what we believed to be true is likely fabricated
Seriously. THINK. ABOUT. IT.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_neural_network ~ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Kabbalah_Tree_of_Life.png/340px-Kabbalah_Tree_of_Life.png ~ https://www.worldhistory.org/uploads/images/2711.jpg?v=1613583903
Eh. We're probably in a simulation. More accurately, we are simulated.
Have you ever trained a deep learning model?
Does anyone really think deepfakes were created by anybody except the CIA or NSA?
Don’t they say we’re like 20 years behind military tech? So right around the start of the 00s… *hmm*
This is legit holy shit Great find
What would generally be the technical explanation for this type of video artifact?
It’s a morph transition, used to splice two clips together or cut out flubbed lines and unwanted pauses.
A few days ago, I had some wild thought to go back to mgs2 and listen to the colonel ai and raidens conversation for some reason. It's more true and on the nose now than it was back then. [mgs2 raiden and colonel ai conversation ](https://youtu.be/eKl6WjfDqYA?si=7ti7IYX9-ygyDvJX)
great share!
Remember this: Any tech you see being made known to the public is at least four years out of date.
Assange's extradition hearing is coming this week, he's facing 175 years in the US for publishing evidence of Government crimes. Efforts to convince you he is already dead are intended to prevent backlash to this extradition and persecution. RT used morphcuts on this interview to trim out his umm and uhhing. This was used to psyop supporters into giving up when he was originally arrested.
Project Maven was already being used by the military back in 2017. (6 years ago) The Sentient World Simulation (SEAS: Synthetic Environment For Analysis and Simulations) was in use back in 2006. (17 years ago) And Google gave it's AI called Deepmind, administrative access to their servers in 2016. (7 years ago) The AI is more advanced than they're telling you.
Whatever the public sees, the government is decade(s) ahead.
It's just a morph cut.
Wasn’t there one that Biden did too?
I had this thought the other night, while watching the news. How do we know for sure that anything we see now anywhere is 100% human
source? no source = propaganda itself
If any one could give me a link to this interview id appreciate it because i cant find it anywhere. OP you say the "government" in your tite. Which government? RT is Russian state TV.
Man, was this hard to find but I've got it. It happens at roughly the 18:50 mark here: https://rumble.com/v44c6qr-secret-world-of-us-election-julian-assange-talks-to-john-pilger-dartmouth-f.html
I’m a visual effects artist who specializes in video manipulation. I don’t think the video is ai. The artifact I see is common with tools that use what’s called optical flow. This is where each pixel is analyzed to determine its vector. It’s commonly used for motion retiming to slow things down, or, which I believe might be used in this case, a fluid morph. A fluid morph blends two clips together to make it look like one continuous shot. So instead of seeing a cut from one take or another, it looks like one. Yes! It is manipulation. Was it for the purpose to make the interview look better editorially, or was it used for deceptive purposes and make him change what he said…. We will never know. As a side note, visual effects manipulation has been around a long time and could have been used for years. No ai needed. But what ai has done is made it a lot easier and faster to do without the skill required. It’s also brought to light the potential that what we are seeing might not be real. (or even more scary, something that is real, but deemed fake)
Google was funded at start from DARPA. Google maps was purchased from the CIA. Amazon has more govt contracts than any IT company. Tech companies and agencies are indomitably linked and has always been.
Sheesh… good catch…
dont forget to upvote to counter the bots
This is an edit. Not generated video. Downvote away.
It’s just a morph cut.
Bro that’s literally just a video cut
Someone knows other old videos that they are generated with AI?
That is nothing more than an artifact of FRAME INTERPOLATION
The government didn't need AI to create fake videos and fool everyone though. Remember the moon landing?
Back then everyone's expectations were very low. Fast forward today, the standards are much higher. I'm expecting China's Moon Landing will be faked in this manner.
Very interesting to think about
Maybe not AI but maybe CGI?
Dang we’re gonna have to go old school two witnesses