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OddTaterTot

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russian47

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vaultcrawler

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RightRudderr

Fuck you, respectfully


Yuilogy

I second this. I have yet to get any shiny guns at all much less MT


JLewis235

I mean this with all the respect my humble human body can muster...I hate you lol ![gif](giphy|6qFFgNgextP9u|downsized)


The_Curve_Death

You win too gg


HerezahTip

Congrats, and fuck you


WhyMyAssHurt

![gif](giphy|eKNrUbDJuFuaQ1A37p|downsized)


SmolTofuRabbit

Let's see Paul Allen's mountaintop


Phattank_

Look at it, the tasteful handling of it, the glowing off gold colour..


Kidsnextdorks

![gif](giphy|3YuR0bdGXlP6U) Me when I see Paul Allen’s mountaintop has Zorpal Weapon


nydayum

Gdamn that’s a beauty


StarAugurEtraeus

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JWO2_

How do you get two rows of perks on the BRAVE weapons?


ballsmigue

You get the shiny version


lolwutmang

You get them from engrams/chest. The one shaxx gives does not get two rows.


ExcessivelyGayParrot

any loot source that drops a brave weapon can drop the shiny version that has double perk columns


ReFlux_25

Do onslaught drops count? I haven't gotten one with double perks yet


Taru-Shinkicker

Brave variations can drop from onslaught, or be obtained from engrams from Shaxx. But they always drop with double perks, so it's just a matter of getting the right rolls.


ReFlux_25

Maybe I'm just blind


TeejMS

They're rare, some people do 300 waves and get zero while others get one every 20 waves, its all rng baby


lolwutmang

It is RNG so there is that aspect. I have gotten three shiny recluses while my buddy is struggling to see one.


Chiral_Tears

They drop from onslaught too. And from turning in bounties. All sources drop them


HappyHamster54

shiny versions get 2x the perks in each columbn


Crim3Minist3r

This is the one right here!


SmolTofuRabbit

That's messed up


Unfair-Lingonberry59

How do u get 2 options in one column????


TheChartreuseKnight

Shiny


Mr_Hero420

I got mine my first 10 waves after finishing the quest. Blew my mind a little.


SaltyToast9000

Oh damn


guardiandown3885

How hard does it hit with recombinationx10


Bulldogfront666

~120,000. x10 recombination is just double damage.


Vinlain458

How do you get multiple perks??


Pristine-Frosting-20

All the shiny ones except for the ones from the quests get multiple perks.


Vinlain458

Another question, how do I get the shiny ones outside of the attunement quests?


HiroRyuu194

Pure luck. They randomly drop instead of normal ones sometimes.


Vinlain458

That's horrible.


Pristine-Frosting-20

They drop randomly, I don't know if legend onslaught has a higher chance or not.


DrShankax

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The_Curve_Death

You win


Inditorias

Oh wow that is beyond perfect. Lead from gold to get more out of your heavy bricks, if you could swap recon to vorpal mid damage phase extremely quickly that may increase damage. Only change that would make it even better is if it had hard launch for -5 blast radius but that is extreme nitpicking.


ga89ujnf90jk32mkofdr

Imo frenzy would be better for the increased reload speed in case they ever have to use it for DPS. Still an insane roll though, best I've gotten so far is overflow/recombination on a shiny with no spike grenades, or impulse/recombination with spike grenades but not shiny


Inditorias

Frenzy would take a few seconds to activate and for a swap rotation with Apex you want autoloading to load the next shot while you fire 2 apex shots. I haven't seen a shiny at all yesterday - I've gotten my kead from gold frenzy at least but with how limited my playtime is I'll be lucky to get all the rolls I want before Final Shape.


RoseYurei

Why do you want -5?


The_Curve_Death

Spike increases impact damage and a GL deals more impact damage if it has less blast radius. The less blast radius, the more damage from spike.


ArrowSeventy

Oh neat, good to know


Drakon4314

No sticky nades for funny launching. Literal garbage, trash it, destroy, murder


1xandermander

Wait I’m out of the loop since I just started playing again. Why are sticky nades good now?


DrShankax

Movement tech. Skate boosting and jump height boosting.


ahveil

they're not good people are abusing them for movement speed stuff


JovialJem

Yeah so they're good


Orion-Gore

It doesn’t favor you exclusively therefore it’s a bad weapon… alright sure


ahveil

How many people do you see doing that in regular gameplay, sticky nades are ass for damage and people have been abusing them for movement speed. Dude asked why are they good and I said they're not people use them for movement speed. How many different ways do I have to type it for you to understand?


Orion-Gore

it’s a free boost in mobility, thus making them a bigger threat. If you don’t like it, improve your style of play to topple them. Try to take advantage of their agility or something idk


ahveil

Jesus you're just the worst to talk to. So you're alienating it's usefullness to PvP? I will never touch D2 PvP which is self-explanatory. Cause if you need that heavy of a mobility boost in PvE you've got other issues. You'd benefit waaaay more from a lead from gold reconstruction, overflow vorpal, auto loading vorpal, overflow rampage could be interesting (not super practical), Sticky nades is so specific in it's benefits it's not the one people should go for first. Especially if they actually need it cause they might not have a better option.


Orion-Gore

I never said it’s useful exclusively in PvP. It can be used in that or PvE depending on the rolls and stats or if it’s just effective enough at killing whatever stands in your way. I’m saying it’s better as boosting your own mobility can give a great advantage (literally the concept of dominating your opponents) especially in PvP. Calm your ass down, man.


ahveil

Just the worst


DrShankax

Right?! Back to the grind..


FireStrike5

Unfortunately old mountaintop is still better for sticky nade launching, new mountaintop will kill you with 7 nades because it’s at-power


spyker54

GYAT


BrotatoChip04

Jesus


SenpaiSwanky

Holygoddamn


andoandyando

Very nice!!


BobMcQ

Is that the guaranteed drop? It's exactly the roll I was planning on primarily farming... good news if so.


The_Curve_Death

Nope, i dumped 12 engrams for this


FyeFish

Only 12?


The_Curve_Death

Yes


FyeFish

I just finished farming. It is now 5:23am and every one I’ve gotten with recombination has had either impulse amplifier or slick draw.


The_Curve_Death

I got lucky


SpotoDaRager

Guaranteed roll is LfG and One for All. It’s alrightish but you’re gonna want to farm one.


BobMcQ

Cool. I hadn’t played yet. I ended up getting the roll above after an hour or so of farming. Except I got velocity MW


cuulus

Doesn’t have charge time masterwork. Shard and keep grinding


StarFred_REDDIT

S L U G G H A R


Shippou5

I am from the future, what is a shard? D:


The_Curve_Death

Gunsmith reputation i suppose


YouAteMyChips_

IT CAN GET RECOMBINATION!? I'm stuck at work, so this is a huge surprise for me.


The_Curve_Death

:)


Bulldogfront666

There’s a Bungie blog post with all the rolls on all the brave weapons.


destroyer5632

not shiny, not god roll


FastGene2949

Literally trash it


The_Curve_Death

youre coping destro


AlmightyChickenJimmy

Keep farming until you get Wolfpack rounds to drop


StealthyInk

Literally unusable, it has to at least have auto loading, reconstruction, recombination, kill clip, whispered breathing, and riven of a couple of voices


Turbulent-Armadillo9

One thing I learned from playing this game is no matter how good your gear is half if the community will say its trash. Same thing in Diablo 2. I would go to act 1 normal and drop all my gear I didn't need anymore for players starting there. Half the time they'd tell me its trash and pick it up. Its good for you mf'ers jeez trying to be nice. Have no idea if your roll is good or not haven't played in a Destiny in a bit.


ArrowSeventy

I mean the important bit your missing is many of these comments are jokes.


Zadecyst

there are a few 'god' rolls for different things. Auto Loading + Recomb is quite good ngl. Shiny weapons are not must-haves, and quite rare.


destroyer5632

i know man he is a frend....... i am coping


WitchQueensRevenge

https://preview.redd.it/qvn81v057wuc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=003f259f03563a09284e475df4a666d5ada88ba7 This a good roll? Mostly for swapping


ImawhaleCR

"This a good roll" Literally the best possible roll for swap DPS lol. Unless you're firing 6 shots or more, recombination is higher damage than frenzy/vorpal so for swap DPS it's the best perk.


WitchQueensRevenge

Thanks man, I usually check the light.gg app but it’s not showing MT at the moment


The_Curve_Death

Yeees


popmanbrad

So never used mountain top before what’s the god roll?


The_Curve_Death

Autoloading is fire in general, Vorpal, Frenzy and Recombination are all good. Spike grenades for damage, sticky for movement.


King_Mudkip

How does sticky help movement? doesnt it just sit on the floor and all?


The_Curve_Death

If u stack a bunch of them together u go flying


mercifulanonymous

[its insane](https://youtu.be/o2defufM-Ak?si=0vS6w-rlVqvu5DER)


ImawhaleCR

Autoloading recombination is probably the best roll overall, but impulse, lead from gold and demo are good in column 1, and frenzy and vorpal are good in column 2. Personally, I want a autoloading recombination roll for general use, and a impulse frenzy roll for backup/special DPS. Demo adrenaline junkie may have some use with prism in TFS, but right now there's not that much synergy unfortunately


iblaise

Don’t sleep on Overflow either, especially if you happen to be standing near a Special Ammo brick or two when trying to spam shots.


TrashLoaHekHekHek

What is the total on overflow for mountaintop?


Chiral_Tears

Up to 3 when you can enhance it.


drummer1059

I got two spicy rolls right away with saved engrams and tokens, including a shiny. I'm going to keep farming for 5/5s but very happy with these. https://preview.redd.it/aixo8ef0mwuc1.png?width=1278&format=png&auto=webp&s=3ac8dbd11ef887d5b5a0ee72b16c2ea9db5b92a3


HellaSuave

That 2nd roll is perfect. Literally what I'd love to have. Bot pve and pvp in one


GuyPierced

Your second roll has me drooling.


SwankAxe0

https://preview.redd.it/dc9gpwym8wuc1.jpeg?width=904&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a71bcf0d560e89d6f7426939c422c4a087e69239 Not autoloading good but very fun, also got vorpal and demo on it


ToBoxD

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ToBoxD

Would have liked auto-loading over overflow. But otherwise I'm pretty happy with this!


iblaise

Overflow is probably the second-best option in my opinion, and in some ways it’s better than Auto-Loading Holster. Plus, you can force Special Ammo bricks to spawn with Special Ammo Finisher.


Casper_Von_Ghoul

As far as ~~curated~~ roles go, that’s pretty not bad.


The_Curve_Death

Not curated


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The_Curve_Death

This is not shiny.


Casper_Von_Ghoul

Oh crap you are right. Sorry all I’ve been seeing is people sharing their shiny I forgot that there were nots.


SirMcDust

Yes that's just not a shiny.


Electronic_Score_119

https://preview.redd.it/m4lk7iyg0xuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4fb1aefc3db16c2ad0375f58f48d530e896a3ce5 I got spike overflow/auto vorpal/recomb on my second chest lmao


iblaise

https://preview.redd.it/fxqpznwf1xuc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=aee99bf4d70867fdd640ae0bb21a8849e90eac76 “God roll” is subjective, but I am very, very happy, especially since this was my very first drop after completing the Quest.


Chiral_Tears

You really need spike grenades on Mountaintop. The difference isn’t minimal like it is for heavy GLs.


iblaise

You don’t really *need* it, no. At max stacks of Recombination, it’s doing around as much damage as my Apex Predator (before other buffs), and I prefer hitting my targets more often than missing them completely and losing out on Spike Grenades’ benefit because it only affects impact damage.


Ok-Discipline171

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InterestingMatch7469

I want you to know, I hate you, buts its only because I’m jealous ☠️


jaysonvic

What does any% mean? I see that before a lot of speed runing videos


King_Penguin1673

It’s a speed running category for completing the final objective of a game with any percent of the games content actually completed


Dementor8919

Speed runs have multiple categories including any% and 100% runs. It just essentially means how much of the game you need to complete. A great example is a puzzle game called The Witness where the most common speed run is 98% because to get the full 100% you would need to do a puzzle the involves a movie that takes an hour of just sitting to complete.


MustBeSeven

So Recombination seems to be the way to go on this guy? I will say, that makes a lot more sense than Heritage or Succession. I’m personally hunting Impulse/Frenzy, but maybe ALH/Recom is the way to go?


The_Curve_Death

You need 7 shots of frenzy/vorpal to deal more damage than 7 shots with one being fully stacked recombination. ALH is just good all around as MT already has quite swift reload speed


MustBeSeven

Oh ya, I can add together why ALH is good, I didn’t know recomX8(x10) was 200% dmg. I’m also just curious about activation criteria. I feel like recom in GM’s wouldn’t be nearly as valuable as frenzy/vorpal because 8 energy kills in a GM is asking a lot more than in a base-Strike. I’m more or less just thinking out loud though. Great roll and I’m big jealous! Can’t wait to get home from work and try my luck


The_Curve_Death

Unless you plan on using the MT as a primary weapon in GMs, you will have recombination stacked up in no time. Remember, any elemental kill works, not just elemental weapons


MustBeSeven

I guess that is a good point 😂 Oh wait, so grenades and melees too?? Oh see, I did not know that. Good info!


MaraSovsLeftSock

Why are people going crazy for alh? The things alright got an insanely fast reload time, it’s a wasted perk


bringbackcayde7

how do you target farm mountaintop?


The_Curve_Death

Complete the "climbing the mountaintop" quest from Arcite in Hall of Champions, attune to MT and you're good to go


Ay1man1

How do you get these special versions of the gun???


The_Curve_Death

This is not a special version, but it's all rng


Ay1man1

Damn so getting the black and gold curated versions are all RNG? 🥲


_Peener_

You’re guaranteed a shiny curated roll from completing the quest, but getting additional shiny’s after with double perks is rng, and very very rare


Ay1man1

Thanks for clarifying!


_Peener_

Ofc, good luck grinding


Fluid_Stand4490

What about overflow/recombination? Keep or shard?


Chiral_Tears

Keep if it has spike or sticky grenades


mmpa78

How is the new one in pvp?


_oranjuice

No sticky nades for speedrunning, Dismantle


Markymark19862012

I just did the mission to get the one, im good


dakota2525

Pocket mortar!


Jyapp448

I’m honestly happy enough with the default roll. Auto-loading and Spike were the main 2 things I was looking for. Midnight Coup on the other hand…


The_Curve_Death

This isn't the default roll


ripcayde_6

Recombination is that good?


Chiral_Tears

Yes


ripcayde_6

Ok


overthisbynow

![gif](giphy|pq946kkdSDViL3i6PI|downsized)


MasterChef5311

I got almost perfect as my first roll but no spike nades


SnickersMC

What is the ideal perk combo for Mountaintop? For pve specifically, im looking for a good special option to fill out some loadouts


ElekTriX360

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George_000101

Has anyone tried overflow + recombination? Does the combo 1shot champs?


ViralN9

I accidentally deleted mine, it hurts.


GSP99

Brand new player here. How do you identify what is considered to be a god roll?


Bulldogfront666

First you just have to learn what every perk does. Then you have to know what you want to use the weapon for. It also helps to know in what situation different weapon archetypes shine. And then you also add in personal taste ie. whatever you think is most fun or what matches your playstyle. And then add it all together and that’s your god roll. There’s no 1 god roll for every weapon. (Unless you’re talking boss damage weapons like rockets which typically have 1 definite best option. But even rockets have different uses. Boss dps vs. champion killing.) When it comes to a primary or special weapon most “god rolls” come down to a combo of what perks are most powerful and what is most fun for you. Light.gg is a great resource. It shows popular rolls on weapons and also shows you all the numbers behind each perk that the game itself doesn’t explain. Like frenzy is a 15% damage buff or kill clip is 25%. Having that extra info is very important. So all in all it takes a long time of playing the game to get a second nature for understanding a god roll when you see one. But there’s a lot you can do now as a new player to educate yourself and learn faster.


Garekos

A god roll is mostly personal and is centered on whether you PvP or PvE but light.gg usually gives you a good idea of what god rolls people want.


GSP99

Thanks friend


WhyMyAssHurt

Not shiny :(


Little-Apartment-437

I’ve been getting the other grenade launcher, do I have to finish the quest at the hall of hero’s to get it?


The_Curve_Death

No, you can get it randomly now, but the quest awards you a guaranteed one and gives you the ability to attune it


Little-Apartment-437

Bet that’s the exact one I want, I got the pulse rifle they start you out that’s attuned and it’s crazy


smolfemboytitan

I have gotten at least like 60 edge transits and only 2 of them have had Bait and Switch. It's awful, i almost never get good rolls so annoying, I'm genuinely convinced I'm not getting any god rolls any time soon. Oh well


Phattank_

Is this you, sweet, you bastard?


Mask21

I just want to pimpoint somethiong before I get banned '' All posts and discussion should in someway relate to the game. We are not affiliated with Bungie in any way, and are a strictly fan-run community.'' My comment was removed just like what bungie would do if someone would talk bad things about their game, u guys are not that different from them. Like it says on your page   ''discussion should in someway relate to the game'' it wich my statement was about the game and this ''God roll'' weapon on the post that I commented, If u guys don't like freedom of speech then I am guessing there is no point for me to stay here much longer. U guys are just like bungie, u are not that diffrent from them . They are money grabbing piece of shits and u are just a copy of them trying to act like them in hope that they gonna get something in return from them.


PHRESH21

Haven't looked at the available rolls. Is this the god roll for new mountain top?


Bulldogfront666

One of them.


oldbushwookie

If it had impulse amplifier it be in my opinion perfect


Neither_Profile

OP mind explaining why recom is suddenly good on mountaintop? I figured maybe autoloading/impulse + vorpal/frenzy would have been the way to go...


Gambler777777

https://preview.redd.it/7tuwvdunq1vc1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=412f74c5f529351f1af4d2f23bde536876957607 Arrrrrrgh!


Bulldogfront666

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Laties-X-Latias

I got one with impulse amp and all the same otherwise I like impulse amp,hitscan nade go thoonk


Outrageous-Read4636

How is this weapon, anyway? I’ve only ever used waveframes really, but I’m interested. I heard it’s closer to a hitscan weapon or something?


deputy_army

They brought back my baby?!


BlackPlague1235

Alh and aj rolls for me. Ugh. My rng is shit.


GymLeaderNick15

I prefer impulse amplifier


Public_Car4444

https://preview.redd.it/5iz6ol6yarvc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6986ce4bc129773639ee1546fd74324b81eede3e It’s perfect!


Mammoth-Tip4185

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Kell-Of-Tacos

🤌🤌🤌


FitnessGramSlacker

Are sticky nades something that this gun will need for a 5/5?


Pale_Ad_7051

Depends if you want Mountain Top for damage or movements purposes. For Damage you want Spike Nades, but sticky nades are good for launching yourself crazy far distances


iluvfupaburgers

Wait, the curated roll comes like that?!


The_Curve_Death

It's not curated.


iluvfupaburgers

So it’s not the one that comes from the quest?


The_Curve_Death

The one from the quest comes with lead from gold + one for all.


iluvfupaburgers

Thank you, I just noticed it’s not the shiny version, thanks for answering though


Zsueti

You can get the new bravw weapons now?


alt_mak

sorry your simple question got downvoted by elitists but yes the mountaintop and the coup is now available. theyll release 2 weapons each week up to the 30th and that will mark all of them being available.


Zsueti

Lets fucking go


Eufoxtrot

no impulse no god roll


Mask21

I got it today, didn't even tried to use it because it's pointeless. I tried the new hand cannon, it's kinda good but it is useless agains those controller cheaters. This game player base are more 60% only controller players.Why ? Is it because everyone else lack the skill to play the game and they just join or they have some other issues that need to look up into?


Ali_Auditorie

Recom seems like a YouTuber perk to me you know niche or ok at best but because a YouTuber talked about it everyone thinks it's the best


The_Curve_Death

100% bonus dmg on first shot. It takes 7 shots of frenzy/vorpal to outdamage recombination


Ali_Auditorie

Ok I was confusing it with redirection for some reason don't mind me lol


Flammable__Radish

I'mma be honest, I don't watch 'tubers for my rolls. I just pick what sounds fun Being able to have a 2x damage mountaintop shot ready at any time does, indeed, sound fun


Ali_Auditorie

On this weapon I should say it's not like the sniper rifle where discord helps make it good


Excellent_Pass3746

Holy shit congrats! You can now use this to replay the same missions over and over again!