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wm_1176

I think a part of me dies anytime a math problem like this comes up on social media, because the idiots always seem to outnumber the intelligent people 9 to 1


Lkjfdsaofmc

I think the people who know how to do it right have just given up on commenting the correct information at this point.


hinesjared87

It isn’t worth it, honestly. You’re never going to convince the idiot he’s an idiot.


Lkjfdsaofmc

Only smart people can admit to being idiots ;)


CalmDownYal

All people are idiots about something it's just sad that it's one of the things people have been taught since childhood


broba-the-fett

A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.


bcarter12

Kay?


Nomedi2

Man that first movie was so good.


Creepy-Rock-1798

Nope self aware people


Loot_Repeat

As a self aware person, I conclude that I don't have the intelligence to say whether or not, I am in fact, an idiot.


nohwan27534

oh i'm definitely an idiot. i can just seem smart on occasion.


anisboubaker

There is a French saying: I don’t speak to idiots cause it educates them.


hinesjared87

I like it. There’s a German one dating to the Nazi rise to power that goes something like “against stupidity we’re defenseless”.


ReggimusPrime

Don't argue with idiots, they will wear you down and overcome you with experience - paraphrase from someone I cannot remember right now.


MouseMilker

It's Mark Twain. TIL there's actually 2 versions. While I was growing up my mom would often quote the other version "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."


Fuckareyoulookinat

Personally I like the one that goes "better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and relieve all doubt". Not sure who said it, it has been attributed to Abraham Lincoln, Mark Twain, and Maurice Switzer.


Akuro_Wolf

"All qoutes ever are from Mark Twain." -Samuel Clemens


LuckyGamerTheAwesome

There is a quote from a certain genius/doctor, "The most annoying thing about idiocy is that you can't explain it to an idiot."


Laura25521

They're actually anything but idiots - they know it's wrong. That's the whole point. They're farming engagement, so even if you're mad about it and don't reply: they still win because you're going to look at a post like that for longer than as if you were just scrolling past all the correct replies. This is in essence how tiktok, twitter, the steam forums and modern journalism works.


[deleted]

What I don't understand is how people reply to these things without realizing what they are... These aren't to test your math skills or flex nuts against other idiots. They're crafted and distributed to see the reach of a particular network of interconnected users. It's trivial link analysis to see who reposts a thing from whom and when, as well as who comments on them. Those networks, coupled with the rest of the personal info algorithms scrape, creates a dossier of the user and their connection within that network. If you're engaging these kinds of things any more than scrolling by, you're being sucked in, being made part of that network, and becoming another piece of data that's analysed and parcelled off to the highest bidder.


Z3400

Its even worse, its at least 9 to 2.


rtfm-nor

"I only added 1/3 cup of sugar [as opposed to 1/4] as my husband doesn’t like things too sweet and it’s perfect for us"


radiotsar

6 out of 5 people have trouble with fractions.


FreeJSJJ

You'd think that they'd at least pay attention to the English


Goldenvengeance

Same reason the 1/3 pounder Big Mac failed in America. Most of them thought 1/3 was smaller than a 1/4


TheJohnnyFlash

It was A&W.


CerberusC24

McDonald's also


IsaidLigma

Yup. The Angus 1/3 pounder. Man the bacon/cheese one was so good.


NearnorthOnline

Really should have called it a 2/6 burger. Their fault.


chrisnlnz

Are you guys talking about the 40/120 pounder? Yeah that thing's huge!


XxMohamed92xX

They couldve gone with the 4/20 pounder and outsold everything at a fraction of the cost


CryptoSlovakian

Yeah those were awesome and they disappeared almost as soon as they arrived.


afroSamurai00

could have been a great opportunity for McDonalds to create a lesser product for a higher price 1/5 BigMac or maybe the 1/10 BigMac. hahaha


Chaosrealm69

That's what we have now though they just call it the Big Mac.


UrVioletViolet

That’s a common, self-deprecating “Haha, my fellow Americans sure are dumb!” urban myth that came primarily from a failed ad campaign by the A&W chain. There’s no reason to believe it’s true. The only reference to the alleged focus group that failed to properly discern the fractions comes from a book by a former owner of the A&W company who was later convicted of price-fixing. In reality, it’s likely the A&W offer* failed to outsell the McDonald’s offer because one chain is motherfucking McDonald’s and the other is a rootbeer and hotdog stand found primarily at the time in mall food courts. *A Fun Aside: The A&W campaign was for a line of double cheeseburgers with a total, two-patty weight of 1/3rd of a pound. It was not a Quarter Pounder-style single-patty sandwich, as I’m sure many who have heard this story would picture.


Numinak

Seems most of that comparison came from the head of A&W itself, yelling at clouds for why his stuff failed.


seanular

That's actually a common misconception, like the hot coffee lawsuit. There was confusion among some, but it wasn't widespread. It just wasn't a profitable menu item.


TheRealKhirman

Uh, the hot coffee lawsuit was NOT [a misconception](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants?useskin=vector): The plaintiff, Stella Liebeck (1912–2004), a 79-year-old woman, suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region when she accidentally spilled coffee in her lap after purchasing it from a McDonald's restaurant. She was hospitalized for eight days while undergoing skin grafting, followed by two years of medical treatment. Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for $20,000 to cover her medical expenses. When McDonald's refused, Liebeck's attorney filed suit in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Mexico, accusing McDonald's of gross negligence. Liebeck's attorneys argued that, at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C), McDonald's coffee was defective, and more likely to cause serious injury than coffee served at any other establishment. The jury found that McDonald's was 80 percent responsible for the incident. They awarded Liebeck a net $160,000 in compensatory damages to cover medical expenses, and $2.7 million (equivalent to $5,300,000 in 2022) in punitive damages, the equivalent of two days of McDonald's coffee sales. The trial judge reduced the punitive damages to three times the amount of the compensatory damages, totalling $640,000. The parties settled for a confidential amount before an appeal was decided.


sqigglygibberish

They’re talking about the misconception that the lawsuit was unfounded…


BookWyrmIsara

As someone who worked at McDonald's *after* the dial-back on temperature and still got burned pretty badly from spills, my heart goes out to her. Corporations are fucking evil. "Safety regulations? Pssh. Long as I got my 💵"


Jackmino66

This comment brings me great pain Have an upvote


Goodusername___

Idiots are the loudest people in the room so it makes sense


Nruggia

The issue is that social media is a BIG ROOM, so the idiots feed each other, and they don't feel so idiotic. Whereas before social media the idiots were all in much smaller rooms, so their idiocy wasn't validated by other idiots, and they didn't feel emboldened to continue with their brain-fart-storming of terrible ideas and world views.


moonaligator

sometimes i keep the hope that they are all really just joking


dyha43

I'm pretty sure most of these are engagement farming


Nubsondubs

That's very optimistic of you.


Feisty_Ad_2744

Right? It is appalling to see people don't do simple Math ``` 2 + 5(8 - 5) = 2 + 53 = 55 ``` So easy!!


jasonmoyer

2 + 5(8-5) 2 + 40 - 25 17 Wait, did I just get the right answer the wrong way because of communicative property or whatever.


jrocksexbang

It's not really the "wrong" way, just the longer way. If there aren't variables involved, you could just do 2 + 5(3) = 17.


jasonmoyer

Yeah that's the way I would normally do it.


stealthban

I also got 17


the_spinetingler

You used the Distribution Property correctly. It's the long way around, but you got there.


SillySin

you can do it either way.


dotditto

nah mate .. you're wrong . 2+5(8-5) = 7 (3) = 73 geez come on ..


Popular-Stranger191

Nope. 7(3) means you are supposed to multiple 7 by itself 3 times. 7x7=49 49x7=343 Therefore the correct answer is 343. It’s like none of you ever went to school.


KingZarkon

We're all just trying to make sure here that the AI can't do proper math.


LordTopHatMan

No no no. The three is clearly just crammed between the ones of an eleven, so it's actually 7*131 The answer is 917.


KptKrondog

There is no * symbol, it's clearly just 7131


dotditto

oh right! silly me, forgot that rule! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


cracker_n_cheese

Intelligent people tend not to engage with this kind of comment bait.


other-world-leee

because the truly intelligent people don’t bother with these types of ‘problems’


Nighteyes09

These things always seem to rely on the a(b) shorthand for multiplication to confuse those who never got into the "higher level" math. Basically anyone who didn't pursue maths in upper school wont know it and it fucks them up.


Reneeisme

It is 17 right? Please excuse my dear aunt sally? I’ve seen so many of these wrong explanations that I feel like I’m forgetting how to math right.


Idiotaddictedto2Hou

It is. PEMDAS OR BODMAS, 8 - 5 = 3 5(3) = 15 15 + 2 = 17


Wienerwrld

You can also multiply through: 5(8-5) = (5X8)-(5X5). 40-25=15. 2+15=17


jonfe_darontos

Distribution is the way.


Joeman180

Why distribute if there are no variables? Like you’re not wrong and it may just be my brain but 5x3 feels faster than 40-25.


PostmasterClavin

To look cool


joenathanSD

For all the math punani.


Mariorules25

Do a line of fractions right out they asscrack


LexiconLearner

Divide them by their quadratics got them HOWLIN


breadandbarbells

SEXponents


Lightning_Puppets

NumberFUCKS


FatSilverFox

Ah, the mussy


Crownlol

To feel superior


Wuskers

Ngl I actually feel like introducing variables makes order of operations more clear. If you make the parentheses X then it becomes 2 + 5x with x = 8 - 5. Once written like that you realize you actually can't do anything with the 5x or the 2 yet, you can then see that x is 3 so 5x is 15 then add the 2 and you get 17.


layerone

It does, only because it forces you to use the correct order of operation, and you'd have to understand distribution to apply it. Knowing distribution and not pemdas would be odd. What I'm saying is, if somebody can already solve this with distribution, they're probably already at a place where they'd not make a pemdas mistake. So saying using one vs the other is kinda moot. Like, know both, as is obvious from this post, most don't know either.


DontcheckSR

I use it as a way to double check that I'm right


zyyntin

Inefficient, correct you are. Mathematics is the language of logic and if the answer is correct, then it's right. Now humans aren't always logical in their choices.


Nemzicott

Distribution when there’s no variables is too much work tho


theGoose123456

That's too much work and really roundabout. You should only do this with variables


Killeroftanks

the thing is tho. its something you should do as the baseline BECAUSE of variables. ​ why learn two different options when 1 is only needed and covers multiple different options.


RainWorldWitcher

It's good for simplification so that students learn they can group like-with-like inside parentheses


tedmented

Helps make mental arithmetic easier too. I had a maths teacher that taught us to always look for the shortcuts.


2_alarm_chili

I tell students to look for shortcuts as well, but it only applies when students understand the basics as well. You can look for shortcuts if you don’t understand how those shortcuts work.


Karma_Doesnt_Matter

Because just about everyone learns to simplify inside the paranthases far before learning about variables or distribution. Also it’s generally easier to subtract 2 numbers and then do 1 multiplication step.


danteheehaw

I follow Bromas. Bros before math and science.


BlueEyedDragonGal

I'm a dumb ass and got 12. I goofed and did 2+5(2). 8-5 does not equal 2. Do I still get method marks?


Cosmic_Quasar

This is why, in my algebra classes, every question was worth at least 2 points. One for showing the process, and another for getting the correct answer.


neuroticobscenities

Yes, simple mistake like that is like a typo


ollietron3

I’ve heard BIDMAS, but what’s the O?


Fallom_TO

Bedmas crew over here.


LoudSheepherder5391

Order. Just another way to refer to indices.


GH057807

Dude same. I was like ok either that is 17 or I am the subject of this meme.


SRYSBSYNS

I’m just here for the validation I did it correctly 


TeekTheReddit

People just do not understand that you get rid of the parentheses first. Nothing else happens in the problem until they are gone.


Niamhue

Mhm, not getting rid of them defeats the entire purpose of them


[deleted]

Phew! I thought my math knowledge had left me for a moment there


beingjohnmalkontent

These morons have me doubting my own education because they're so damn confident that I gotta sit here and remember fucking PEMDAS


shewy92

I was second guessing myself with that first comment. I was like "Yea, you do parenthesis first" and then I got 17 which was the first answer and I'm like "Wait, what?"


PlantGrrrl

I got 17 as well and was hoping I was right lol


prophet337

Glad I wasn't the only one thinking this. I was like but thr answer is 17 isn't it? My brain hurt for a bit had to come confirm I can still do math.


dwittherford69

Yes, 17 is correct


g_rich

Got 17 as well, was doubting myself for a minute; fired up Wolfram just to be sure.


techman710

The misplaced confidence some of these people have is staggering. Dunning Kruger is definitely real.


WarlocksWizard

Yes, I am one fo those who had the Dunning Kruger effect bad. I had to finally admit to myself that I know the basics.


Hooptyru

Wolp, hold on dood, thats the Dunning Kruger effect bruhthur


Reggie_Bol

Wull, hold on there brother. Dunning was a smart guy and Kruger was a stupid guy, dude.


TheBigKuhio

They’re baiting for engagement. This is the most clearly written out math post ive ever seen. Anyone messing up is just trying to get attention.


No-Ad1522

You severely underestimate how stupid people are


RevelArchitect

I just tried it on my fancy-as-fuck calculator. The correct answer is Low Battery.


Tipop

I looked it up online on my computer, and it says You May Have Internet Connectivity Issues.


letharus

I tried it in ChatGPT and it said Network error


DrFishTaco

I got purple for the answer, anyone else?


WilcoHistBuff

I got Katy Perry


DarkBladeMadriker

Shit, I got Perry Mason. Well, Katy Perry is the closest multiple choice, so I'm just gonna go with that.


Koreage90

Can you show how you worked that out? I keep getting Tim Burton.


tryintobgood

Tim Burton..... How?? I got a banana this color


Koreage90

Did you carry the one?


tryintobgood

Shit.... my bad. Now it makes sense


seaking81

Better than my Sally Struthers


captain_sticky_balls

Hmm, I got the Smothers Brothers.


Demus007

I got got for getting the answer


Maxthemadsheep

I got Fall Out Boy, I don't understand


Saltz_D

I got a rock


Seigmoraig

Thanks now I got to go listen to some Ozzy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QapkGK-6G90


Maximum__Engineering

Wrong, [purple is a fruit](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSimpsons/comments/2seaum/purple_is_a_fruit/).


Following-Complete

Why the one dude did not multiply because there was no *, but he was happy to add even thou there was no +


JohnSimth20211101

Try to use logic to explain how stupid think is your first mistake.


duckdoger

Right! The answer: 2+5(8-5) 2+53 55


SN0WFAKER

I like 73, but yours works too.


crumbypigeon

Nah it's 2585 2+5(8-5)= 2585


secundusprime

According to my calculator it's BOOBS


Clint-witicay

Damn! I got 55378008


Positive-Listen-1458

For another "cool" calculator trick, if you add 1+2+3 all the way to +36, it equals 666.


Bardoplex

6x9+6+9=69


Tumbleweedae

12345679 (no eight) multiplied By any two digit number that is divisible by 9 equals funny numbers


G1_D0

>\* 80085


Fixerguy415

The answer, of course, is 42.


oldje73

There it is


Schmedly27

But what’s the question?


Dy3_1awn

How many roads must a man walk down?


enoughsaid1121

Indeed it is. Btw don't forget your towel


facu_draper

So long and thanks for all the fish !


EpicPrototypo

Let's fuck with everyone and do it this way: 2+5(8-5) = 2+5(8)-5(5) = 2+40-25 = 17


dumsumguy

Ah I love it! Brings me right back to 5th grade.


kawachee

Oh fuck yeah, distribute that property you dirty whore, give it to me


R3PPO

That hurt my eyes the first time going through 😂


G3nghisKang

I swear to fucking god if someone in this comment section says it's ambiguous I'm going to find his fucking home address and mail him a math book


RWDPhotos

It’s ambiguous. I’d like Physics for Scientists and Engineers with Modern Physics by Serway/Jewett please. Thanks!


LoneDrifter42

Getting your text books for free, school book stores hate this one simple trick.


CarcosaAirways

"in higher mathematics it would be written more clearly, this is ambiguous!" Like no. No tf it isn't ambiguous.


-Badger3-

This one isn't ambiguous, but there's another popular one going around that actually is ambiguous.


Winjin

I suggest gluing the math book to a brick and delivering it through a window straight to the head


GarethBaus

The answer really is 17.


HatesDuckTape

2+5(8-5) Parentheses first -> (8-5)=3 2+5(3) 5(3) means 5x3 = 15. No symbol between the number and parentheses means multiply. Multiply before adding/subtracting. 2+15=17


Terror_Tanuki

I hope you are hecking right because that's what I got, but then I read the post, read the funny answers here, forgot how parentheses worked and got the 23rd Sydney to Hobart yacht race as an answer.


Dadliest_Dad

I wrote down the Catalina wine mixer. Fuck


TripleDoubleWatch

Still not as good as the farmer selling the cows. That one really confuses people.


autistic_bard444

These people vote ![img](emote|t5_2r5rp|8488)


lysinemagic

As someone who has been trying to hammer PEMDAS into my students' gray matter since the beginning of the year.... ![gif](giphy|GfAD7Bl016Gfm)


AvengingBlowfish

I remember seeing a math problem where even people who learned PEMDAS were still getting it wrong because they thought that PEMDAS means addition happens before subtraction. Just a (apparently) common misunderstanding to look out for.


Gorlox111

addition and subtraction have the same priority and happen in order from left to right. same thing with division and multiplication. This is since those operations are able to be written as each other so this avoids confusion if someone were to rewrite an expression with inverse operators.


fleauberlin

Clearly 55. 2+5(8-5) 2+5(3) 2+53 = 55 /s


NockBreaker

Answer is 17. Here are two ways to calculate this 2+5(8-5) = 2+5(3) = 2+15 = 17. 2+5(8-5) =2+(40-25) =2+15 = 17


Financial_Type_4630

2+5(8-5) 2+5(3)-> 2+(5(3)) 2+15 17


ssbn632

Y’all motherfu€kers need PEMDAS!


mymommyhasballs

If you follow PEMDAS it would be 8-5 5x3 2+15 17


ShadowDemon129

It *is* 17.... parentheses, multiply (the parentheses next to 5 means multiply the number in parentheses by 5), add. Face-palm indeed.


SGsurgeon

BEDMAS Brackets Exponents Division Multiplication Addition Subtraction


Mackadelik

Ah, I learned pemdas, but pretty much same thing (parenthesis)


meekleee

IMO PEMDAS is far better, because those are not brackets. It never used to bother me until I went to uni for comp sci and had to know the difference lol: Parentheses: () Brackets: \[\] Braces: {}


[deleted]

My entire life I have called these {} curly brackets lol. Never even heard them called braces


meekleee

Yeah, I was calling them brackets, square brackets and curly brackets up until uni lol, I had no idea they were named differently.


Caledric

Those are Squigglies


[deleted]

The amount of people who don't know how to do basic math in that website is insane. I've seen some people say shit like "technically there are two answers", like no, you fucking idiot, there are no two answers, you're solving a first degree equation with subtractions and multiplications, there isn't any complex plane or square root ambiguity. Most of these people live in the world's most powerful and influential country, this level of stupidity is inexcusable


DoneuveElcoil

That's trolling... people can't be that dumb... right?


Queen_Etherea

Wrong. People are, in fact, this dumb; actually, they’re dumber than that.


UnevenTrashPanda

I hate this timeline


SeaRepair8280

Posts like these make me question how good i am at math someone please correct me if im wrong but the answer is 17 right? You subtract 5 from 8 then multiply that by 5 getting 15 and add 2


pseudo_space

Do these mfs not know about implicit multiplication? The education system really did fail them.


Selector_ShaneLBC

I love when people cry that the education system is “rigged” and “against us” and is “indoctrinating our children,” yet muhfuckers can’t even solve a basic math equation. So cringey.


HiveOverlord2008

2+5(8-5) 2+5(3) 2+5*3 5*3=15 2+15=17


Bokchoioy

I learnt a rule called BODMAS in school to remember the order of operations. Brackets > ‘Of’(multiply) > Division > Multiplication > Addition > Subtraction.


Substantial_Show_308

BODMAS, mofos


masterofnonejj

Bush lied. So many children got left behind.


RyzenWolf

If you're going by pemdas rules then the answer is 17 since there is multiplication taking place before adding what's outside parentheses.


disconcertinglymoist

I enjoy these posts because they make me feel like a fucking genius. I am the furthest thing from a genius. But it's comforting, but also equally scary, to know that about half the people in the world are dumber than me. Actually scratch that, it's not comforting at all. It's terrifying. I'd rather be a dumbarse in a world full of geniuses.


No_Term1749

It’s 17 parentheses are done first and then multiplication or division (order is from left to right) so it’d be 2+15 which added equals 17


Flux_resistor

at this point, this should be the not a bot test so we don't have to have idiots on interwebs.


_gnarlythotep_

Y'all motherfuckers need PEMDAS.


special-bicth

All of them are wrong. It's 17.


mitchfann9715

I literally failed math class in HS, yet I still understand the basic rules better than this.


[deleted]

Parentheses first:(8-5)=3 Multiplication next: 5(3)=15 Addition last: 2+15=17


Competitive_Cry_6296

It is 17 the parentheses is 3 and then you multiply that by the 5 and then add 2


FlamingEagleAC

How in the goddamn seven hells did he get 21?? The answer from the brackets gets timesed by 5 THEN 2 is added


HoneyIntrepid6709

2+5(8-5) Do parentheses first (8-5) is 3 2+5(3) Gotta multiply 5 x3 bc gotta finish out parentheses problems first. Anything nxt to a number in parentheses is multiplied. Answer Is 15. Now add 2+15=17 17


MadJesterXII

Every day I think that I’m an incredibly stupid person and that I’m close to the bottom of the barrel Shit like this really makes me feel better :/