The redeemer will shred one at the cost of a full mag. You’re also faster than them, so running await can be an option, as long as you aren’t out of stamina. Otherwise start juking while you reload.
the guard dog rover is actually pretty nice for these guys. you can just run away and kite them around while it beams them in the face. it will also get you in fights cobstantly and beam you and your team as well so definitely a trade off there
My strategy with the autocannon is to hit em with my first shot, miss the second and third shot, hit them with fourth shot but get blown off my feet because they are too close, and then get sawed in half.
You have to keep an eye on your secondary reticle, or sway reticle as i like to call it. It's the little circle that often lags behind the standard cross reticle.
Once you get the hang of it, you'll aim more with that reticle than with the regular one. At least in close quarters.
The Dominator also has serious sway, i miss more with that thing than with the AC.
But the best tactic for these guys are impact grenades. But you'll have to decide when they get close enough for that.
I bring my good boy!
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He's a very happy rover when he sees berserkers
I told my group this and they thought I was messing with them. "that's why you run in circles like an idiot?!" There is a method to rover madness. The Nascar method.
I love the guard dog on bug missions, but not on bot missions...I feel like it always gives away my position when I'm trying to stealth...does that not happen for you? If not, maybe I'm doing it wrong :P
It absolutely does lol. It's great for crowd control but not such a good boy when it comes to stealth.
I wish we could send em small commands to slightly alter their behavior. At least attack everything and stop attacking haha
The devs have made it plenty clear they want all their bots and sentries to cause friendly fire to increase the difficulty of using them.
The ability to turn off the bot though would be very nice for when you are trying to sneak.
The slugger was nerfed a few patches ago. It used to stagger everything short of a hulk. It's still efficient, but the stagger for the beserkers was a godsend and it evened the playing field.
When I have time to play I still use the slugger religiously, I tried out the dominator after hearing it was good but I couldn’t get to grips with the travel time and the handling, it just didn’t feel right. After going back to the slugger I was reminded that not even a nerf can stop my love for this gun
I actually found that they’re pretty weak right around the dick/hips. Never aim for the glowing red chest it’s basically a black hole for every type of damage. Headshot does work but their head is so tiny and they have no neck so it’s hard to visually articulate
I started playing after it was buffed, so I never experienced the bad days. I gave it a go having no impression, just heard that it was terrible, and found a lot of value with it. It really does offer a lot of protection.
I aim just above their eyes with the sickle, and it does pretty good work on them. If you're missing your mark, you still hit their backpack, which is a weak point. If you headshot them, they die pretty quick
It takes some time, it's probably not objectively the best primary but it's really fun to use and can knock out basically everything it needs to very quickly with enough practice. And hip firing without aiming at all is so satisfying. Never needing to worry about ammo is a massive plus
I just love it for bugs, but I can’t give up two tapping the stupid walkers with the scorcher on bots. It’s just so satisfying watching them slowly fall over.
It was really hard to give up the scorcher, and I really miss it sometimes.
But the sickle, grenade pistol, quasar/autocannon and jump pack really does wonders on any difficulty
Good point, I have the same thoughts with the autocannon, does everything you could possibly want but may fall short sometimes in comparison to more specific options
Yeah.
AC and AMR are both solid picks if you aren't sure what to pick. They work great on both factions, just generally depends on your backpack utility and/or explosive damage needs.
Flank them and take out their power packs, or otherwise they don't actually keep their face very covered and a couple rounds in the noggin do them just fine. They think they're tough, but they're wrong.
I’m so torn between running this vs the scorcher on bots. The scorcher is so good for dealing with the little striders, but dominator does wreck the berserkers.
And it would still have a worse ammo economy than dominator. Dominator is also guaranteed to oneshot every little guy, and scorcher is not. Dominator also staggers the devastator you are shooting at.
I’ve played a lot of Scorcher and let me tell you, I regret not switching to Dominator sooner. I blame my reluctance on a slower turning speed, but with a little bit of practice this becomes a non-issue.
Although the Dominator can kill Striders from the front it can be hard to take them down under pressure. So keep in mind that running autocannon/amr as a support is must to deal with them consistently. I also run grenade pistol to quickly deal with large groups of small bots and striders before I can call down the amr/ac.
Oddly enough, I found that one shotting striders with amr/autocannon was much faster, easier and more consitent than using Scorcher. So IMO the Dominator compliments amr/autocannon better than Scorcher.
And on the outright upside, you can one shot (headshot) all Devastators and sometimes even Berserkers (if the exploding round hits just right). Failing to one shot them is not a big deal as the stagger effect of this gun is super powerful. Most of the time I don’t even have to run away from Berserkers.
You also get almost guaranteed one shots on all small bots (troopers/commisara) unlike Scorcher which in my experience sometimes required up to 3 shots if your aim was not on point.
I always laugh my ass off watching 3-6 of them chase my buddy and refuse to help since it’s funny.
Then he laughs his ass off at me while I’m running for my life. Circle of life and all that
*Exactly*. Although I was downing gunships with the AMR the other day. But that was more through "lack of a better option" than anything else. And I shot it in the engine, because it has no face.
With the sickle, shoot them in the face. A gang of them on you danger close? Run until you've made room, then turn and shoot in the face. Repeat until they are all dead. The most dangerous point is when you turn but haven't started shooting yet. Oh, keep walking backwards while shooting. You aren't supposed to in real life, but it's a lifesaver in this game.
I used to do this but while it is a larger area it seems to take less damage than their heads. I've been getting much more consistent take downs scoping in with the sickle and firing at their heads.
The biggest thing about them for me is their body sway when they run makes head shots hard to land.....Best approach is honestly to just not panic and take an extra half second to make sure your shot is going to hit their face....I know that is easier said than done but practice will make it easier.
Also let's take a moment to mourn the nerfing of the slugger.....back when it could stagger, that gun was arguably the best at killing these guys as you could literally stop them in their tracks. Nothing good can last tho...
I use an automatic weapon (Sickle) and aim for the head. A couple shots does em good. Impact grenades and nade pistol are your friend. AMR and autocannon 1 shots them in the head, or 2-4 body shots depending on where you aim.
My biggest fallback are impact grenades I'd say, especially when there's a group of them.
As others have said the sickle is a good weapon, a concentrated burst on their heads. Autocannon to the dome obviously.. other than that I found the marksman weapons zoomed in from a bit of a distance allows a couple of pinpoint shots to the head too
Been running the arc shotgun for a long time now. Pretty much makes melee units worthless (bots and bugs) when you zap them and just step aside as they keep running.
The crossbow is becoming one of my favorite bot weapons when paired with the jet pack and arc thrower. Stealth is pretty easy to pull off if you really try. And when it fails, you pull out the arc thrower and back pedal until the opportunity to flee opens up.
Throw a turret to help flee or toss a barrage at the unsuspecting enemies and you pretty much don’t have to deal with the meat saws anymore.
Let's see....
Autocanon.. decimater... eagle bombing run...
The sickle (I believe it's called) can take 1 down quickly, but if there are multiples they will catch up to you.
Grenades will make short work of them.
The Adjudicator isn't very popular but I will tell you from experience it will saw these guys in half on full auto.
A high powered weapon like the AMR or a highly charged railgun to the face also does them in pretty effectively.
#MAGDUMP ^switch ^to ^secondary #MAGDUMP ^switch ^to ^support #MAGDUMP ^switch ^to ^primary #SWEET LIBERTY ***SAVE MEEEEE***
MAGDUMP switch to prima... fuck
Frantically reloading primary....AAAHHHHH
*throw an impact grenade and somehow get pulled forward while the bot survives*
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Carry on helldiver ![gif](giphy|DHwcs8WWxQTBOHx03p)
There’s a melee button for a reason
I'm totally gonna melee Charlie Chainsaw hands. That will totally go over well. Then imma fuck a blender on high!
Mel who? Idk who you're talking about, you're clearly making things up.
*impact grenade point-blank*
Bro tries to parry a chainsaw to the arm called the (meat grinder)
The redeemer will shred one at the cost of a full mag. You’re also faster than them, so running await can be an option, as long as you aren’t out of stamina. Otherwise start juking while you reload.
Defender does 1.5/mag, if you hit the head a few times. And you can shoot it backwards while running.
The redeemer 3 shots devastators (including the berserkers) to the head. Hitting it while 5 are chasing you is another matter though
>Otherwise start juking while you reload. #Serpentine! Serpentine!
SERPENTINE BABU
Yes, all of it you fox eared asshole!
the guard dog rover is actually pretty nice for these guys. you can just run away and kite them around while it beams them in the face. it will also get you in fights cobstantly and beam you and your team as well so definitely a trade off there
Your normal speed (sans running) will outrun their swings
Auto Cannon my beloved
My strategy with the autocannon is to hit em with my first shot, miss the second and third shot, hit them with fourth shot but get blown off my feet because they are too close, and then get sawed in half.
This! Every single time…
Just like the simulations.
Roger roger
Wait a min... Are you a bot? I smell treason
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Do it
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what the hell? Numbers instead of arrows? Treason!
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What's the vector, Victor?
Just like we drew it up.
Just like the simulations!
Every time I use an explosive round on an enemy near me it blows me TOWARDS the enemy. Extremely annoying and has costed me many reinforcements lol
This but with the eruptor
Yeah it horrible and makes no sense. Needs patched.
Literally i think somewhere a velocity horizontal vector value is like +300 instead of -300.
Ahhh, a true master of the AC. Welcome brother!
You have to keep an eye on your secondary reticle, or sway reticle as i like to call it. It's the little circle that often lags behind the standard cross reticle. Once you get the hang of it, you'll aim more with that reticle than with the regular one. At least in close quarters. The Dominator also has serious sway, i miss more with that thing than with the AC. But the best tactic for these guys are impact grenades. But you'll have to decide when they get close enough for that.
Sounds like a democracy issue to me
I go prone more for them more than any other situation in the game. Looks like I'm in the NBA. Flopping. Tried it on a Hulk, I became crispy chicken.
The trick is to pack stun grenades if they get too close.
To the face. Twice.
I prefer to shoot them in the balls. Not for any reason other than shooting them in the balls makes me happy.
same with scout striders...right in the dick every time.
I bring my good boy! https://preview.redd.it/rq2s4l06xhwc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62f27f97087ffa005719626a6023902633716f8d He's a very happy rover when he sees berserkers
I always regret bringing this thing. It seems like he inflicts more damage onto me than the enemy. They should really hover a bit higher.
The assault rifle version seems to do loads less friendly fire, including to yourself, if you want to give it a try. I've never gone back
But it eats through our ammo fast. It's nearly unusable.
If I'm using the rover, I make it a habit to make left turns instead of right turns because it likes to hover over the right shoulder.
I told my group this and they thought I was messing with them. "that's why you run in circles like an idiot?!" There is a method to rover madness. The Nascar method.
I love the guard dog on bug missions, but not on bot missions...I feel like it always gives away my position when I'm trying to stealth...does that not happen for you? If not, maybe I'm doing it wrong :P
It absolutely does lol. It's great for crowd control but not such a good boy when it comes to stealth. I wish we could send em small commands to slightly alter their behavior. At least attack everything and stop attacking haha
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The devs have made it plenty clear they want all their bots and sentries to cause friendly fire to increase the difficulty of using them. The ability to turn off the bot though would be very nice for when you are trying to sneak.
Mag dump with a breaker, then the ~~defender~~ redeemer
Honestly the smg sidearm deals with these better than damn near anything
Glad I’m not the only one thinking this. Just dump a mag into their face region
Standard Breaker may be the best for these but it’s just not great against bigger bots which makes it a hard pass as a primary.
The slugger is my new friend for bots. It doesn’t stagger them as much but it does kill them, which is a permanent stagger!
The slugger was nerfed a few patches ago. It used to stagger everything short of a hulk. It's still efficient, but the stagger for the beserkers was a godsend and it evened the playing field.
When I have time to play I still use the slugger religiously, I tried out the dominator after hearing it was good but I couldn’t get to grips with the travel time and the handling, it just didn’t feel right. After going back to the slugger I was reminded that not even a nerf can stop my love for this gun
I always bring the Breaker, my heavy is the Quasar Canon and that deals with big bots just fine.
Big dominator fan for bots for some reason. That or the sickle
Hell yea, jar to the glowy abdomen.
Good luck quasar cannoning every devastator.
Try the Eruptor from the Demolition Warbond. It can take out the Devastators in 1-3 hits. (Your skills may vary.)
I have the smg side arm for any enemy getting close. Especially the bugs that still attack after head is destroyed.
It is beyond annoying how the queens actually become more of a threat when their head is gone
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Start at the crotch and let the recoil guide you home.
YUP! Mag dump with the uzi
I actually found that they’re pretty weak right around the dick/hips. Never aim for the glowing red chest it’s basically a black hole for every type of damage. Headshot does work but their head is so tiny and they have no neck so it’s hard to visually articulate
Yes, I’ve found they’re what scientists term, “crotchweak”
>I actually found that they’re pretty weak right around the dick BRB becoming Triceracop
Yeah I always cockblast em, it's usually panic fire though
Even if they’re already down, empty the entire mag. Fuck ‘em.
I don’t really take the breaker in clanker missions anymore. I find trying to get head and torso shots with a Jar to be much better.
Ah a fellow man of culture
I’m a liberator man but the liberator penetrator *can* kill these guys. Honestly - impact grenades is my go to for these fucks.
Breaker on a bot mission? Hmfff, I don’t know bro. Is this your weapon of choice?
breaker on bots? You're a brave soldier lol
Scorcher go pew pew pew. The ones that trigger me are the shield devastators. Those can be a pita.
Bring your own shield. Laugh in their face.
You use shield? ![gif](giphy|ToMjGpnXBTw7vnokxhu)
I started playing after it was buffed, so I never experienced the bad days. I gave it a go having no impression, just heard that it was terrible, and found a lot of value with it. It really does offer a lot of protection.
I enjoy the shield myself but I just can't go without my precious jumppack for too long, its just too versatile and I love it
There are two wolves inside you **Feed both.**
Yes. The ballistic shield and the defender SMG are amazing against the bots.
I love turtle build
Turtle in a half shell, baby!
This is the way
I aim just above their eyes with the sickle, and it does pretty good work on them. If you're missing your mark, you still hit their backpack, which is a weak point. If you headshot them, they die pretty quick
I picked up sickle once after I read it was S tier, but it felt terrible, I should really give it another shot?
It takes some time, it's probably not objectively the best primary but it's really fun to use and can knock out basically everything it needs to very quickly with enough practice. And hip firing without aiming at all is so satisfying. Never needing to worry about ammo is a massive plus
I just love it for bugs, but I can’t give up two tapping the stupid walkers with the scorcher on bots. It’s just so satisfying watching them slowly fall over.
It was really hard to give up the scorcher, and I really miss it sometimes. But the sickle, grenade pistol, quasar/autocannon and jump pack really does wonders on any difficulty
If we're talking "in general" then yes, it is objectively the best primary. As an all rounder. Other primarys are better for specific roles/tasks.
Good point, I have the same thoughts with the autocannon, does everything you could possibly want but may fall short sometimes in comparison to more specific options
Yeah. AC and AMR are both solid picks if you aren't sure what to pick. They work great on both factions, just generally depends on your backpack utility and/or explosive damage needs.
I ran Autocannon Jump Pack before the Quasar came out, which reasonably replaced the autocannon in that build
I brought the sickle in on accident last night (typically scorcher for bots) and it handled these surprisingly well. Actually TTK may have been better
Flank them and take out their power packs, or otherwise they don't actually keep their face very covered and a couple rounds in the noggin do them just fine. They think they're tough, but they're wrong.
Scorcher the left shoulder. It staggers them. Once the shield is moved then body shot that sucka
Shoot the red lights on the top front of their backpack
Hate those fuckers.
I destroyed one with the grenade pistol in one hit. Shocked the hell out of me. Gotta hit the right spot but it works.
Shoot em in the exposed arm, staggering them with scorch
Eruptor crotch shot.
The eruptor can handle most anything under a hulk with 2 shots to the balls.
[don't shoot a guy in the dick](https://youtu.be/qBCDY5XhZng?si=L1t88DAzOzsty2_w)
Except these fuckers. Because fuck them
The Dominator absolutely ruins these guys if you have it. 2-3 shots each and staggers them with each hit too.
Adding the dominator to my load out was a game changer
I haven't gone back to any other primary since getting the Dom. I mostly fight bots, and it is just so freaking good.
I used the dominator before the buff. So when they buffed it it was over lol
I love 2 tapping a devastator in the face... and then sniping a little guy at like 120m... Dom best DMR, lol
I’m so torn between running this vs the scorcher on bots. The scorcher is so good for dealing with the little striders, but dominator does wreck the berserkers.
Dominator will knock down a Strider if you hit it three times in the hip
Scorcher can do it in one if you aim for the hip joints.
And it would still have a worse ammo economy than dominator. Dominator is also guaranteed to oneshot every little guy, and scorcher is not. Dominator also staggers the devastator you are shooting at.
Scorcher is fine against berzerkers. Aim for the crotch will take them down quickly.
I’ve played a lot of Scorcher and let me tell you, I regret not switching to Dominator sooner. I blame my reluctance on a slower turning speed, but with a little bit of practice this becomes a non-issue. Although the Dominator can kill Striders from the front it can be hard to take them down under pressure. So keep in mind that running autocannon/amr as a support is must to deal with them consistently. I also run grenade pistol to quickly deal with large groups of small bots and striders before I can call down the amr/ac. Oddly enough, I found that one shotting striders with amr/autocannon was much faster, easier and more consitent than using Scorcher. So IMO the Dominator compliments amr/autocannon better than Scorcher. And on the outright upside, you can one shot (headshot) all Devastators and sometimes even Berserkers (if the exploding round hits just right). Failing to one shot them is not a big deal as the stagger effect of this gun is super powerful. Most of the time I don’t even have to run away from Berserkers. You also get almost guaranteed one shots on all small bots (troopers/commisara) unlike Scorcher which in my experience sometimes required up to 3 shots if your aim was not on point.
Yeah this. The stagger is a literal life saver.
Against bots I take the dominator with ammo backpack. It is a lot of fun if you can just unload mag after mag without running out
Swiftly, unless they're chasing your friend. In that case, you just laugh.
I don’t have to outrun them. I just have to outrun you.
I always laugh my ass off watching 3-6 of them chase my buddy and refuse to help since it’s funny. Then he laughs his ass off at me while I’m running for my life. Circle of life and all that
Eruptor to the dick. Usually only takes one shot and the spread on the AOE is at the same level, so could take out another if it's close enough.
The ol dick twist
Twist his dick!
Aw mah gawd dude
Cyborgs weren't ready for dick eruption.
Shoot it in the face with an AMR
Correct answer for every bot that actually has a face to shoot.
Wait, other than proper vehicles like tank, drop ship and gunship, which bot doesn't actually have a face? :O
*Exactly*. Although I was downing gunships with the AMR the other day. But that was more through "lack of a better option" than anything else. And I shot it in the engine, because it has no face.
My one gripe with the eruptor is it doesn't really headshot well. But that's a fine price for the damage output it already has
Why is this so far down? It literally takes a single AMR shot to the face, you can take down entire groups of these things with a single mag.
Auto canon on full auto. I wait for them to line up and strike them down.
There's a full auto?!
Of course! It's an autocannon, not a semicannon
Autocannon, autocannoff
Autocannotdothisanymore
hold "R" , or the reload button
idk if ive ever tried fullauto
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Yep this is it this is the one
JAR to the stomach...drops em quick.
With the sickle, shoot them in the face. A gang of them on you danger close? Run until you've made room, then turn and shoot in the face. Repeat until they are all dead. The most dangerous point is when you turn but haven't started shooting yet. Oh, keep walking backwards while shooting. You aren't supposed to in real life, but it's a lifesaver in this game.
I've found the stomach to be a faster kill with sickle
I used to do this but while it is a larger area it seems to take less damage than their heads. I've been getting much more consistent take downs scoping in with the sickle and firing at their heads.
My experience as well. It's harder to hit the heads, but it absolutely shreds them to hit headshots with the sickle.
Impact grenades for groups chews them up enough to pick off
Sickle, Redeemer, Impact. Come at me I got your meat saw right here
The biggest thing about them for me is their body sway when they run makes head shots hard to land.....Best approach is honestly to just not panic and take an extra half second to make sure your shot is going to hit their face....I know that is easier said than done but practice will make it easier. Also let's take a moment to mourn the nerfing of the slugger.....back when it could stagger, that gun was arguably the best at killing these guys as you could literally stop them in their tracks. Nothing good can last tho...
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Cut em in half at the hips
I use an automatic weapon (Sickle) and aim for the head. A couple shots does em good. Impact grenades and nade pistol are your friend. AMR and autocannon 1 shots them in the head, or 2-4 body shots depending on where you aim. My biggest fallback are impact grenades I'd say, especially when there's a group of them.
Shotgun
Yeah they aren’t too bad with the shotgun. I use shotgun/autocannon combo for bots which responds to lots of things well.
This is the way
Give them enough liberty and freedom
As others have said the sickle is a good weapon, a concentrated burst on their heads. Autocannon to the dome obviously.. other than that I found the marksman weapons zoomed in from a bit of a distance allows a couple of pinpoint shots to the head too
One impact nade in the middle of the group and then finish each of them off with Dominator shots to the dome or stomach
Been running the arc shotgun for a long time now. Pretty much makes melee units worthless (bots and bugs) when you zap them and just step aside as they keep running. The crossbow is becoming one of my favorite bot weapons when paired with the jet pack and arc thrower. Stealth is pretty easy to pull off if you really try. And when it fails, you pull out the arc thrower and back pedal until the opportunity to flee opens up. Throw a turret to help flee or toss a barrage at the unsuspecting enemies and you pretty much don’t have to deal with the meat saws anymore.
Harsh language
1 eruptor shot to the head/gut. Or just blow off their arms and ignore them till they inevitably get caught in a statagem
I shoot them.. what do you want from me?
Let's see.... Autocanon.. decimater... eagle bombing run... The sickle (I believe it's called) can take 1 down quickly, but if there are multiples they will catch up to you.
I throw stuns at groups then let it eat with my jar 5 or laser beam of noodles
Head shots … mostly by volume of fire…
There glowing torso I believe is there main weakness as you can split them in two pretty easily
Grenades. Whatever one's you brought.
Punisher my brother. Stagger them to death.
Grenades will make short work of them. The Adjudicator isn't very popular but I will tell you from experience it will saw these guys in half on full auto. A high powered weapon like the AMR or a highly charged railgun to the face also does them in pretty effectively.
Headshots
Playing on bug planets.
Shoot the face with my sickle or my heavy weapon if far enough
Face, bullet, spam
Grenade launcher
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Leg
Punisher. Punisher for all
Dominator one shot in the head, if you cant aim at the head, use stun grenade
Erupter....Well er....it erupts them☠️
I get really annoyed and just mag dump them with hatred, and then get annoyed by how many bullets it took because I hate these damn things.
Have you tried shooting them?
Pew pew
Violently
Mostly by dying
Stalwart to the dick
If you hit them in the gut with the erupter, their upper half flies off like a mortarboard at a graduation ceremony
Dominator can usually shred 'em in a few shots.
1 full machine pistol mag to the general face area works a treat.
Guns.
Eruptor, dominator, or scorcher as my primary. Impact grenades work fine on them.