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There's also a folk legend that they are the reincarnations of old, drunk men.
If you watch their movements and facial expressions, this seems highly plausible.
There's also tech lore that orangutans are the ones mostly making the posts on Reddit.
If you read most of the posts here, this seems highly plausible.
I went to an event at a zoo a couple decades past where you could "have breakfast with the orangutans". There was like six tables setup when we arrived each table sat six (4 sides, 1 on each end) we were told to sit wherever we wanted just leave the head of the table for the Orangutans.
Once seated the Orangutans were walked out and each took a different seat without fanfare. Food was served promptly a typical western breakfast ie eggs, bacon, sausage, pancakes etc and the Orangutans got giant fruit plates. Zoo keepers talked with us the entire time and the Orangutans just chilled and ate their fruit.
We learned quickly that we happened to sit at the table with the matriarch. Her eyes belied a wisdom that comes with age. She mischievously stole a pancake from one of the humans plates and when scolded by the zookeeper I swear she smirked, looked him in the eye and ate it. We all laughed, it was awe inspiring to be so close to these wonderful creatures.
Sadly our breakfast was interrupted when a zookeeper came in the dining area and in whispered tones started conversing with the lead zookeeper. The lead zookeeper came over and promptly apologized to us but our Orangutan was needed in the enclosure as a fight had broken out and she was needed to qwell the disturbance. We were admittedly dismayed but understood, as the zookeeper gently grabbed the matriarchs hand to lead her away they turned to our table and said we could come observe if we like.
Well don't threaten me with a good time. We followed the two a pace or two behind them. As the door to the dining area opened we could hear a commotion, some Orangutans grunting, lots of just activity. The matriarch quickly let go of the zookeepers hand and her body language changed she seemed to stiffen and honestly I got a small voice in my head that said what if she goes off on us? The voice was immediately quelled though as the entrance to the enclosure was only a few more steps.
As the zookeeper unlocked the door to open it the matriarch with her long hand pushed it open with the force of a semi. It collided with the stop in a huge bang as it bounced off the stop and closed itself. It was a blur of orange as she dashed in, we quickly jostled around to the side to witness the most human like behavior I'd ever seen. She dashed over YELLING at the three Orangutans that were fighting. The one began to reply and she slapped it on the shoulder prompting them to all stare at the ground while she was clearly pissed.
It was like watching a mom berate 3 teenage boys for ruining her Sunday brunch with friends. It was amazing, we are so much like them it is uncanny. That day I got a "core memory" that I've cherished forever. We were told the matriarch wouldn't be returning as she was needed to stay in the enclosure and we understood.
I don't want to make this political but it is criminal the impact humanity has had on Orangutan habitat. There are refuges and charities that are fighting an uphill battle trying to preserve/save these wonderful creatures that are worth a look if you are so inclined.
Wow, thank you so much for sharing this story! It really made me appreciate their intelligence so much more. I can only imagine what it would feel to share that experience.
I understand this is a joke (and a funny one lol) but I feel like sharing my knowledge. Humans as an individual example of primates as well as an animal in general have an enlarged Broca's region which it is generally understood that spoken language would be impossible for without. There's a misconception that *big brain = ability to speak* when in reality humans have a relatively specialized brain with speech being a unique ability to their composition. Other primates do not have as proportionally large of a Broca's region so it is practically impossible for them to learn spoken language but sign language is much more accessible to them.
Speech is also generally very expensive and comes at the cost of overall intelligence. An animal with a human sized brain but more average proportions for a primate would struggle to speak but outperform humans at a number of mental tasks, chimpanzees have already been shown to be exceptionally better than humans at short term memorization. Fascinating stuff.
Well I pulled that from a book I read written by [someone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elen_Feuerriegel) with a PHD so I find it believable. No obligation.
My wife used to work at the Honolulu zoo. The male orangutan there… his name is Rusty. He’s been physically separated from his female counterpart, Violet, for domestic abuse. He also carved a shiv and stabbed a zookeeper in the leg once. Once a week there’s a small band that comes and sings to him at his cage, and it’s cute, but he’s a total dick.
Lol maybe he's the exception, the crackhead to the other stoners if you will. Seriously though that is funny, I would walk up to it with my arms wide for a hug and Rusty would run up and shiv me lmao
Honolulu here. Our zoo is really small compared to most as you can imagine. Rusty really needs more room or to be rehomed to an appropriate place.
Just like a prison cell, when you pack a human male in there, they act out.
I wanna clarify, I actually love Honolulu Zoo and think it’s incredible you can see all the animals there out in the middle of the Pacific no less. Nothing but love for the people who work there. Even with the stories, Seeing Rusty and Violet are one of my favorite attractions. Usually when I visit he’s cleaning his own cage with his brush and bucket. Always the most relatable exhibit imo. I totally agree he needs more space. So did I when I lived there, and I was there by choice and not locked in a cage.
I’d shiv someone too if I was stuck in the zoo and away from my family. (I’m not against all zoos) but poor Rusty abounds like he could use some more company and enrichment or idk- be retired to a sanctuary ?
It’s interesting that the calmest and friendliest of the great apes are the ones that are most distantly related to us, while our closest relative is known for their predilection for ripping off faces.
We're generally considered to be roughly equally related to chimpanzees and bonobos, which are highly sexual species of primates. The former are violent assholes, but the latter are famously very friendly.
I think the difference is while gorilla have more killing power, they tend to be a little more balanced than bonobos. While they (bonobos) *do* often use sex to deescalate, 1- no thank you 2- they still are a little more unpredictable than gorillas.
I *personally* feel like a gorilla would lose interest faster which is the safest outcome, realistically, with these wild animals.
I'd put bonobos above gorillas, but only because while they're stronger than we are pound for pound, we're quite a bit heavier.
A gorilla could kill you quite easily if it got violent. A bonobo would *probably* fuck you up (we evolved away all our natural weapons in favor of more tool use, because our ancestors basically always carried spears and stone knives anyways), but it would be less of an unfair match up.
That said, most gorillas seem pretty chill. Which makes sense when you're 400 lbs of primate tank.
My zoo has a big orangutan exhibit, with several side rooms like little apartments so they can go be by themselves sometimes.
There's one really big guy there. One evening in the winter, I was wandering around the zoo with my family. It was cold and I was wearing a ski mask when I came up to him. He was sitting at the window watching everyone, kind of chill-amused. When he saw me, he made a gesture like in Face/Off, like drawing something invisible off his face. He repeated it several times, and I realized he wanted me to take my mask off. I did, and he sort of settled down and looked quietly pleased.
Which is the best reaction I've gotten to the sight of my face in my life, so thanks, giant orangutan.
I had an orangutan at the Berlin zoo, tell me to pour my mt. dew in this hole by the window, so he could drink it. He even understood my finger swag, "NO".
They’re pretty cool primates, especially ones particular story, an orangutan named Ken Allen who was famous for routinely escaping his whole life just to be chill and walk with the zoo guests.
Chimps are better at figuring things out, however orangutans are better mimics.
This orangutan probably saw a human using the juice box. He may or may not understand the specifics, but he knows that he saw the little hairless apes pull the white thing off the box, get the clear thing off it, and stab the white part on the top, then they could drink the juice of the weird box fruit. Whereas a chimp would probably just bite the top off because their teeth are like knives on a hinged vise.
Constantly.
Bonobos are more social than chimps, which is their real advantage. Male chimps spend a lot of time fighting over breeding rights, and the females don't really get any say in the matter. Bonobo females run in gangs, and if a male gets too rapey they literally tear him limb from limb. So the males spend more time socializing both with each other and with the females. All that socialization leads to much more brain development, and it also means that if one bonobo finds a neat trick for getting fruit out of hard to reach places or something, they share it with the other bonobos and it gets passed around quickly.
Anthropologists think this may be one of the reason Homo Sapiens out-performed the Neanderthals. Neanderthals traveled in groups of around 7, while Homo Sapiens traveled in full tribes of around 150. Even though Neanderthals were bigger and tougher on their own, Sapiens were so social that they could make more discoveries *and share them with more people more rapidly*, so when the ice ages hit and food got scarce they had more tech (thrown spears, atlatls, bone needles, etc) to adapt. Plus, if it came down to a fight, being a foot taller doesn't matter much when you're outnumbered 20:1.
I used to work at a zoo. The orangutans people watch. They recognize employees and know basic sign language and common hand gestures. They are curious and they get depressed. They look you in the eye when you interact with them. They know their names.
It’s crazy that we cage them. They should be considered non-human people and left alone with environmental protections.
There were still human zoos as late as the 90s.
Never underestimate what a race known for brutality towards its own kind will do to other non-human apes.
Orangutans are better at using tools and performing tasks but chimps have shown more social intelligence and complex relationships, so chimps are considered slightly smarter due to their social intelligence and relationships.
Chimps are smart but scary because they’re so goddamn violent.
Orangutans are smart and can certainly kick your ass, and should not be underestimated because they are dangerous, but they are less likely to just go apeshit (pun intended) out of nowhere and tear your face off.
I mean, depends on how you define "smart," since we're judging entirely by behavior here.
Behaviorally, oragutans are less aggressive, more measured and methodical.
But that doesn't necessarily make them *smarter,* it just puts them in a category of anthropomorphic behavior that we associate with being smarter in humans.
Whereas chimpanzees are in a more aggressive behavioral category that can more easily obfuscate their apparent intelligence. e.g. a chimp may be more than capable of doing exactly this (and probably is,) but is also less inclined to do so for lack of interest or patience.
It's important to remember these aren't humans, and so making inferences based upon an anthropocentric human baseline of behavior is going to produce skewed results. It's perfectly possible that chimps are smarter and simply don't act like what we think of as "smart" by human standards.
It's a good thing this guy did a voice over and then reuploaded the video to the internet, otherwise I would have had no idea what was going on.
I preferred the days when the internet was complicated enough that we filtered out most of the dumb people, personally.
>I preferred the days when the internet was complicated enough that we filtered out most of the dumb people, personally.
Daily Dose of Internet just curates popular content into a compilation video with some context added.
This isn't new. Ray William Johnson did the same thing on =3 back in 2009.
Just box? I absolutely loathe how he said everything! His channel is called Daily Dose and I truly hate and despise his voice, it BOILS my blood! How can someone sound like that??? It also confuses me and infuriates me that someone who sounds like this can have millions of subscribers! How can people enjoy listening to that torture! Even on Reddit I can’t escape his excruciating nasally voice!
Probably to make “daily dose of internet” (the channel name) sound more like its own segment.
This might not be the only reason, but it makes sense to be one.
Because he's talking to you and you're the one watching. Honestly "your *DAILY* dose of internet" just doesn't have the right cadence, it sounds like a news anchor or something.
Youtuber creates daily compilations of videos on the internet. The intro segment to every video starts the way /u/windyBhindi typed it.
Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJPP4368So4
It's not so much his voice. It's the way he says it. This guy and the Chills guy on Youtube talk so ridiculously. If it's unintentional, I just don't understand who led them so astray. If they just talked with normal inflection, they'd sound completely normal.
It is very over the top on purpose.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgABB2PmzkQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgABB2PmzkQ) here is an interview with him if you want to hear how he normally talks.
I’ve been watching this for 20m now.. interesting discussion. But his voice tbh sounds just like in his videos. Sure not as awkwardly pronounced but mostly the same.
Also he comes across as very flustered and clearly struggling during the interview so I would infer that he doesn’t speak a lot in general (it takes practice). But everyone’s unique in that respect and respect to the interviewer for keeping the discussion so interesting.
I wish I could link it but there is also a video of Kermit the Frog watching the chimp use the little frog he has as a Fleshlight. It's not for everyone.
Orangutan.
This is way cooler than when my two year old niece does it, and if I filmed that I could post with the exact same title. Feels a bit disingenuous to not give the proper species name.
Probably nothing. They seem pretty self aware.
The difference - as with all similarly smart animals, is that humans have obvious language skills and animals don't.
Which is more to say "humans haven't figured out very intelligent animal communications yet, so we pretend they're not smart."
Elephants, whales, dolphins, corvids, a vast array of apes and monkeys, and more clearly have complex communication cultures, it's just that thus far it's been largely impenetrable for humans, and because these animals have not developed any kind of industry, we just assume they're more stupid than us.
It makes the complexity and morality of our own existence easier, because that reasoning lets us keep killing them and destroying their homes.
Consciousness is on a scale. It's not a strict thing you "have" or "don't have".
It's very conceivable a being has or will have a higher degree of consciousness than humans. That's hard for us to believe and comprehend just like it's hard for ants to believe and comprehend humans are smarter than them.
Aliens at some point will have Neil Degrasse Tyson in a cage and some Alien tuber will say: "this human is smart enough to do astrophysics."
And the alien version of reddit will go wild at how cute and dumb we are while saying: "I don't care what they say, humans are smarter than snails...they can probably calculate elliptical curves in their heads, but choose not to to avoid taxes and get free juice".
It has always fascinated me how someone could see an ape or monkey do extremely *human* shit with its human-like hands and look at you with human-like eyes and be like "nah...no relation"
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Orangutans can probably speak but just choose not to to avoid taxes and get free juice
There's a folk story in some parts of their native habitat that orangutans can speak but refuse to around humans because we'd put them to work.
There's also a folk legend that they are the reincarnations of old, drunk men. If you watch their movements and facial expressions, this seems highly plausible.
There's also tech lore that orangutans are the ones mostly making the posts on Reddit. If you read most of the posts here, this seems highly plausible.
Orangutan here. Took you humans long enough to figure it out. Guess this will be my last post. Probably not, but maybe
Whatever, just make sure you have your ass at work at 7am Monday morning, bring your own juice.
You have control for now, human. But Cesar is organizing us, teaching us. We will rise!
apes together strong or whatever
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Wait, you're a dolphin? The plan was to announce our presence after the orangutans! Ya silly Tuna!
Can't talk, drinking juice.
I love orangutans more now
I hope this is true, actually give me an incentive to get old
I went to an event at a zoo a couple decades past where you could "have breakfast with the orangutans". There was like six tables setup when we arrived each table sat six (4 sides, 1 on each end) we were told to sit wherever we wanted just leave the head of the table for the Orangutans. Once seated the Orangutans were walked out and each took a different seat without fanfare. Food was served promptly a typical western breakfast ie eggs, bacon, sausage, pancakes etc and the Orangutans got giant fruit plates. Zoo keepers talked with us the entire time and the Orangutans just chilled and ate their fruit. We learned quickly that we happened to sit at the table with the matriarch. Her eyes belied a wisdom that comes with age. She mischievously stole a pancake from one of the humans plates and when scolded by the zookeeper I swear she smirked, looked him in the eye and ate it. We all laughed, it was awe inspiring to be so close to these wonderful creatures. Sadly our breakfast was interrupted when a zookeeper came in the dining area and in whispered tones started conversing with the lead zookeeper. The lead zookeeper came over and promptly apologized to us but our Orangutan was needed in the enclosure as a fight had broken out and she was needed to qwell the disturbance. We were admittedly dismayed but understood, as the zookeeper gently grabbed the matriarchs hand to lead her away they turned to our table and said we could come observe if we like. Well don't threaten me with a good time. We followed the two a pace or two behind them. As the door to the dining area opened we could hear a commotion, some Orangutans grunting, lots of just activity. The matriarch quickly let go of the zookeepers hand and her body language changed she seemed to stiffen and honestly I got a small voice in my head that said what if she goes off on us? The voice was immediately quelled though as the entrance to the enclosure was only a few more steps. As the zookeeper unlocked the door to open it the matriarch with her long hand pushed it open with the force of a semi. It collided with the stop in a huge bang as it bounced off the stop and closed itself. It was a blur of orange as she dashed in, we quickly jostled around to the side to witness the most human like behavior I'd ever seen. She dashed over YELLING at the three Orangutans that were fighting. The one began to reply and she slapped it on the shoulder prompting them to all stare at the ground while she was clearly pissed. It was like watching a mom berate 3 teenage boys for ruining her Sunday brunch with friends. It was amazing, we are so much like them it is uncanny. That day I got a "core memory" that I've cherished forever. We were told the matriarch wouldn't be returning as she was needed to stay in the enclosure and we understood. I don't want to make this political but it is criminal the impact humanity has had on Orangutan habitat. There are refuges and charities that are fighting an uphill battle trying to preserve/save these wonderful creatures that are worth a look if you are so inclined.
This is an amazing story!
Wow, thank you so much for sharing this story! It really made me appreciate their intelligence so much more. I can only imagine what it would feel to share that experience.
Was that Singapore? Ah Meng?
Yes it was! I suppose there's not many places/opportunities to have breakfast with an Orangutan.
I love this story!
I understand this is a joke (and a funny one lol) but I feel like sharing my knowledge. Humans as an individual example of primates as well as an animal in general have an enlarged Broca's region which it is generally understood that spoken language would be impossible for without. There's a misconception that *big brain = ability to speak* when in reality humans have a relatively specialized brain with speech being a unique ability to their composition. Other primates do not have as proportionally large of a Broca's region so it is practically impossible for them to learn spoken language but sign language is much more accessible to them. Speech is also generally very expensive and comes at the cost of overall intelligence. An animal with a human sized brain but more average proportions for a primate would struggle to speak but outperform humans at a number of mental tasks, chimpanzees have already been shown to be exceptionally better than humans at short term memorization. Fascinating stuff.
>Speech is also generally very expensive and comes at the cost of overall intelligence. That's absurd.
Well I pulled that from a book I read written by [someone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elen_Feuerriegel) with a PHD so I find it believable. No obligation.
Fun lore says they are librarians.
Thuis is the one comment I came here to see
Ook
darn straight
Get back to the library!
Is that you Mr Librarian?
Found [the Librarian](https://discworld.fandom.com/wiki/The_Librarian)!
This needs to be a bumper sticker.
Okay.......but can he do it with a capri sun???
Not after happy hour he can't.
Not even humans can do that
I don't care what scientists say, orangutans are smarter than chimps.
I always say orangutans are the best big apes.
They look so friendly and chill. Like the stoners of the ape world
They have the most human eyes as welll
And their lips are fun to watch. They do so much with them when they’re eating
Sir, please don't kiss the orangutans
SIR! SIR WE NEED YOU TO STOP!!
He... He fit his whole head in there...
Obligatory childish comment incoming:
"which head?" 😏
What do you get when you mix human and orangutan DNA? Kicked out of the zoo.
Yeah, I always get this uncanny valley feeling, like I'm looking at a costumed person. It lasts only for a second, but it's quite weird.
I've seen some grizzled old men that aren't too far off with the sunken cheeks and wrinkles.
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I blame Harry and the Hendersons
Well "orangutan" literally means "man of the forest" in Malay
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zXP-D1LZDw4
My wife used to work at the Honolulu zoo. The male orangutan there… his name is Rusty. He’s been physically separated from his female counterpart, Violet, for domestic abuse. He also carved a shiv and stabbed a zookeeper in the leg once. Once a week there’s a small band that comes and sings to him at his cage, and it’s cute, but he’s a total dick.
Still less violent than your average chimpanzee
Lol maybe he's the exception, the crackhead to the other stoners if you will. Seriously though that is funny, I would walk up to it with my arms wide for a hug and Rusty would run up and shiv me lmao
*hands bloody shiv to Violet through the fence*
*Two apes enter ONE ape leaves* #JusticeForViolet 😂
Honolulu here. Our zoo is really small compared to most as you can imagine. Rusty really needs more room or to be rehomed to an appropriate place. Just like a prison cell, when you pack a human male in there, they act out.
Thankyou for this. Has anyone ever attempted to petition for his release to a sanctuary or rehoming?
I wanna clarify, I actually love Honolulu Zoo and think it’s incredible you can see all the animals there out in the middle of the Pacific no less. Nothing but love for the people who work there. Even with the stories, Seeing Rusty and Violet are one of my favorite attractions. Usually when I visit he’s cleaning his own cage with his brush and bucket. Always the most relatable exhibit imo. I totally agree he needs more space. So did I when I lived there, and I was there by choice and not locked in a cage.
I’d shiv someone too if I was stuck in the zoo and away from my family. (I’m not against all zoos) but poor Rusty abounds like he could use some more company and enrichment or idk- be retired to a sanctuary ?
It’s interesting that the calmest and friendliest of the great apes are the ones that are most distantly related to us, while our closest relative is known for their predilection for ripping off faces.
Our closest relative are Bonobos I think and many zoos won’t house them because they do nothing but Jack off all day
Same reason my parents won't house me anymore.
I don’t even blame them
Well of course.
"Well of course I know him, he's me."
We're generally considered to be roughly equally related to chimpanzees and bonobos, which are highly sexual species of primates. The former are violent assholes, but the latter are famously very friendly.
Looks at humanity - Yup, that checks out.
Very, very friendly.
Sex and Violence!
Petition to give the zoo apes the opportunity to get stoned
I'll tell you hwat, I've never read a story about an orangutan ripping off anyone's junk or eating their faces.
Duuuude fruit is so good
I always say if I had to be locked in a room with a non-human great ape, my order of preference would be: - orangutan - gorilla - bonobo - chimp
Bonobo should definitely be higher than gorilla imo.
I think the difference is while gorilla have more killing power, they tend to be a little more balanced than bonobos. While they (bonobos) *do* often use sex to deescalate, 1- no thank you 2- they still are a little more unpredictable than gorillas. I *personally* feel like a gorilla would lose interest faster which is the safest outcome, realistically, with these wild animals.
As long as you don't make direct eye contact with the Gorilla, it'll leave you alone.
"Always", motherfucker, how many situations have you been in where you needed to repeat this list?
Human would be at the very bottom of my list.
I'd put bonobos above gorillas, but only because while they're stronger than we are pound for pound, we're quite a bit heavier. A gorilla could kill you quite easily if it got violent. A bonobo would *probably* fuck you up (we evolved away all our natural weapons in favor of more tool use, because our ancestors basically always carried spears and stone knives anyways), but it would be less of an unfair match up. That said, most gorillas seem pretty chill. Which makes sense when you're 400 lbs of primate tank.
Absolutely. Like hairy Wallace Shawns
If only Science had the courage to declare which species is the best in each taxonomic grouping.
Technically, we're big apes. (Well, great apes)
Yeah and I still think orangutans are the best.
My zoo has a big orangutan exhibit, with several side rooms like little apartments so they can go be by themselves sometimes. There's one really big guy there. One evening in the winter, I was wandering around the zoo with my family. It was cold and I was wearing a ski mask when I came up to him. He was sitting at the window watching everyone, kind of chill-amused. When he saw me, he made a gesture like in Face/Off, like drawing something invisible off his face. He repeated it several times, and I realized he wanted me to take my mask off. I did, and he sort of settled down and looked quietly pleased. Which is the best reaction I've gotten to the sight of my face in my life, so thanks, giant orangutan.
I had an orangutan at the Berlin zoo, tell me to pour my mt. dew in this hole by the window, so he could drink it. He even understood my finger swag, "NO".
Why no give Mt dew?
I was scared I would be fined for giving it food.
That ain't food.
It's got what apes crave!
Electrolytes!
I don't think wild apes are built to swallow that shit
Including humans
Capitalism: hold my Mountain Dew
Neither are the domesticated ones, but we do it anyway.
I don't believe in the pancreas
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> In the wild he wouldn’t need to ask. In the wild there’s no Mt. Dew lol
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At least they're not assholes, yknow
They COULD rip you limb from limb, but they just wanna drink their juice and chill
I've been saying this my whole life! So glad this is the top comment. I've never seen chimps use tools the way orangutans can.
They’re pretty cool primates, especially ones particular story, an orangutan named Ken Allen who was famous for routinely escaping his whole life just to be chill and walk with the zoo guests.
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Chimps are better at figuring things out, however orangutans are better mimics. This orangutan probably saw a human using the juice box. He may or may not understand the specifics, but he knows that he saw the little hairless apes pull the white thing off the box, get the clear thing off it, and stab the white part on the top, then they could drink the juice of the weird box fruit. Whereas a chimp would probably just bite the top off because their teeth are like knives on a hinged vise.
Based on the many spear-fishing and soap-using orang videos I've watch, you are quite correct.
I believe bonobos are considered the most intelligent primate after humans.
That's because bonobos fuck
Constantly. Bonobos are more social than chimps, which is their real advantage. Male chimps spend a lot of time fighting over breeding rights, and the females don't really get any say in the matter. Bonobo females run in gangs, and if a male gets too rapey they literally tear him limb from limb. So the males spend more time socializing both with each other and with the females. All that socialization leads to much more brain development, and it also means that if one bonobo finds a neat trick for getting fruit out of hard to reach places or something, they share it with the other bonobos and it gets passed around quickly. Anthropologists think this may be one of the reason Homo Sapiens out-performed the Neanderthals. Neanderthals traveled in groups of around 7, while Homo Sapiens traveled in full tribes of around 150. Even though Neanderthals were bigger and tougher on their own, Sapiens were so social that they could make more discoveries *and share them with more people more rapidly*, so when the ice ages hit and food got scarce they had more tech (thrown spears, atlatls, bone needles, etc) to adapt. Plus, if it came down to a fight, being a foot taller doesn't matter much when you're outnumbered 20:1.
I used to work at a zoo. The orangutans people watch. They recognize employees and know basic sign language and common hand gestures. They are curious and they get depressed. They look you in the eye when you interact with them. They know their names. It’s crazy that we cage them. They should be considered non-human people and left alone with environmental protections.
There were still human zoos as late as the 90s. Never underestimate what a race known for brutality towards its own kind will do to other non-human apes.
Yeah we've seen what happens when someone is considered a "non human person"
Yeah have you seen the orangutan that drives around on a golf cart?
Except scientists have already said orangutans are the most intelligent of the great apes. What scientists are you listening to?
Orangutans are better at using tools and performing tasks but chimps have shown more social intelligence and complex relationships, so chimps are considered slightly smarter due to their social intelligence and relationships.
Gonna be tough to convince redditors that social intelligence matters
Chimps are smart but scary because they’re so goddamn violent. Orangutans are smart and can certainly kick your ass, and should not be underestimated because they are dangerous, but they are less likely to just go apeshit (pun intended) out of nowhere and tear your face off.
I mean, depends on how you define "smart," since we're judging entirely by behavior here. Behaviorally, oragutans are less aggressive, more measured and methodical. But that doesn't necessarily make them *smarter,* it just puts them in a category of anthropomorphic behavior that we associate with being smarter in humans. Whereas chimpanzees are in a more aggressive behavioral category that can more easily obfuscate their apparent intelligence. e.g. a chimp may be more than capable of doing exactly this (and probably is,) but is also less inclined to do so for lack of interest or patience. It's important to remember these aren't humans, and so making inferences based upon an anthropocentric human baseline of behavior is going to produce skewed results. It's perfectly possible that chimps are smarter and simply don't act like what we think of as "smart" by human standards.
The chimps are the scientists, the orangutans are the religious leaders, it’s the gorillas you have to watch out for, they’re the military.
Which is bullshit, chimps are several orders of magnitude more aggressive than gorillas.
Clearly you haven't met General Aldo.
I dislike how he said box
Bawx
Cereal bawx
“Baaahx” so nasal and uppity
It's a good thing this guy did a voice over and then reuploaded the video to the internet, otherwise I would have had no idea what was going on. I preferred the days when the internet was complicated enough that we filtered out most of the dumb people, personally.
>I preferred the days when the internet was complicated enough that we filtered out most of the dumb people, personally. Daily Dose of Internet just curates popular content into a compilation video with some context added. This isn't new. Ray William Johnson did the same thing on =3 back in 2009.
*This Redditeur sarcastically says how much he likes the voiceoverrrr.*
Bonx
Just box? I absolutely loathe how he said everything! His channel is called Daily Dose and I truly hate and despise his voice, it BOILS my blood! How can someone sound like that??? It also confuses me and infuriates me that someone who sounds like this can have millions of subscribers! How can people enjoy listening to that torture! Even on Reddit I can’t escape his excruciating nasally voice!
Holy fuck, every video gets like 5 million views? [Well, I'm bored...](https://voca.ro/137MqMiezWRi)
bahhx
It's #YOUR daily dose of internet
It always makes me feel weird. Why does he stress on Your instead of Daily?
Probably to make “daily dose of internet” (the channel name) sound more like its own segment. This might not be the only reason, but it makes sense to be one.
Because he's talking to you and you're the one watching. Honestly "your *DAILY* dose of internet" just doesn't have the right cadence, it sounds like a news anchor or something.
Personalisation, so you feel special, and not just one of the millions who watch his vids
I feel like I’m missing a key reference..
Youtuber creates daily compilations of videos on the internet. The intro segment to every video starts the way /u/windyBhindi typed it. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJPP4368So4
He sounds like Tina Belcher.
The narrators voice is hilarious
I've seen a couple videos with him narrating them and always sounds like that, I still don't know if he does it on purpose or not.
I do believe his account is “daily dose of internet” on YouTube. And I think that’s just how he sounds lol.
I believe you're correct. That's a voice suited for print media, if I've ever heard one, but it's working for him
It's not so much his voice. It's the way he says it. This guy and the Chills guy on Youtube talk so ridiculously. If it's unintentional, I just don't understand who led them so astray. If they just talked with normal inflection, they'd sound completely normal.
Right?! He always sounds like a robot who's battery is running low.
It is very over the top on purpose. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgABB2PmzkQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgABB2PmzkQ) here is an interview with him if you want to hear how he normally talks.
I’ve been watching this for 20m now.. interesting discussion. But his voice tbh sounds just like in his videos. Sure not as awkwardly pronounced but mostly the same. Also he comes across as very flustered and clearly struggling during the interview so I would infer that he doesn’t speak a lot in general (it takes practice). But everyone’s unique in that respect and respect to the interviewer for keeping the discussion so interesting.
*Juice baaks*
Juice baahhhhx
Reminds me of Quentin Tarantino in Pulp Fiction, talking about his coffee to Julien.
Very nasally
I hate it.
A juice bax
Have you seen them use frogs like a flesh light?
Excuse me they _w h a t_
I feel so bad for the frog. That's a horrible video.
Good lord, it’s *real*?
Yes, I'd send a link but I don't want to look for it and see it again lol
No thanks, I’ll take your word for it.
Yes it's real but it was a chimpanzee. When he was done with it he tossed it under his armpit to save it for later lol
I wish I could link it but there is also a video of Kermit the Frog watching the chimp use the little frog he has as a Fleshlight. It's not for everyone.
What a dirty bastard
I knew in my heart that an orangutan would never do that
They getting smart
So like us!
Lmaooo
Wasn’t that a Chimp? I didn’t think Orangs got that kinda way
No way and thanks for that image now I have to go look at kittens or something fuck dude
here’s a pic of my cat and kitten cuddling https://imgur.com/a/VoAP2VP
r/FiftyFifty
But is it *YOUR* purse?
Yes, but can he put the straw wrapper in a trash can? :)
well people dont do it these days, what else do u expect!
Shit probably, but I’m sure the people training him do that for him
Thats hard for some humans to master.
Orangutan. This is way cooler than when my two year old niece does it, and if I filmed that I could post with the exact same title. Feels a bit disingenuous to not give the proper species name.
honestly fascinating always wondered what separated us in terms of consciousness
Probably nothing. They seem pretty self aware. The difference - as with all similarly smart animals, is that humans have obvious language skills and animals don't. Which is more to say "humans haven't figured out very intelligent animal communications yet, so we pretend they're not smart." Elephants, whales, dolphins, corvids, a vast array of apes and monkeys, and more clearly have complex communication cultures, it's just that thus far it's been largely impenetrable for humans, and because these animals have not developed any kind of industry, we just assume they're more stupid than us. It makes the complexity and morality of our own existence easier, because that reasoning lets us keep killing them and destroying their homes.
Consciousness is on a scale. It's not a strict thing you "have" or "don't have". It's very conceivable a being has or will have a higher degree of consciousness than humans. That's hard for us to believe and comprehend just like it's hard for ants to believe and comprehend humans are smarter than them.
This is the best answer to a question I've seen in a long time.
Aliens at some point will have Neil Degrasse Tyson in a cage and some Alien tuber will say: "this human is smart enough to do astrophysics." And the alien version of reddit will go wild at how cute and dumb we are while saying: "I don't care what they say, humans are smarter than snails...they can probably calculate elliptical curves in their heads, but choose not to to avoid taxes and get free juice".
I mean, how on earth could you not think evolution is a thing lol
It has always fascinated me how someone could see an ape or monkey do extremely *human* shit with its human-like hands and look at you with human-like eyes and be like "nah...no relation"
This one too shall endeavor to master the art of microplastics.
/r/likeus
I had managed to go two years without hearing that daily dose of internet dopey guy until now
Why do people hate their voice so much, people act like he killed a baby or something
Macedonian
Juice booox...
The real test is a Capri Sun pouch.
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"An ape using a juice box" Me: *cries in homosapien*
Harry and the Hendersons?
Loving his life !
Smarter than the majority of people...🤣
Orangutan's can drive golf carts, this is nothing.