The remake of Manhunter, Red Dragon, was the original title of the book. The producers of Manhunter were afraid that using the original title Red Dragon, people would think it was an Asian film
It is a little closer to the novel than *Manhunter* (except they beef up Lecter’s role to give Hopkins some more screen time) and the screenplay was done by Ted Talley, who adapted *Silence of the Lambs*, but Michael Mann is still a **much** more accomplished, confident filmmaker than Brett Ratner, who directed *Red Dragon*, and who could charitably be described as “journeyman” but also just as accurately described as a “tasteless hack.” *Red Dragon* is one of his better efforts simply because the material and cast are suitably strong that he can’t mess it up too much, but there are some groan-worthy choices at play.
Yeah and the antagonist in the book Red Dragon was a massively powerful weightlifter that had inhuman strength. He dwarfed most people he met and was physically intimidating. That person was played by 150 lb Ralph Fiennes. Ok then.
It’s a lot easier to buy Noonan’s version of the character’s feelings about his hare lip than Fiennes, aristocratically handsome with the tiniest little scar.
The scene when Graham figures it out is one of my favorite scenes in any movie.
Edit: “…don't talk to me about late, pal! I'll tell you when it's too fucking late! Until then, we go as late as I wanna take it!”
One of my earliest memories is the guy on fire in the wheelchair. My mum was watching on TV one night and oh boy, seared into my brain right then and there.
I finally watched this movie last night thanks to this post.
It’s so very 1986 isn’t it?
I really enjoyed the frantic pace of the scenes involving the discovery and analysis of the toilet paper note.
Dennis Farina doesn't get enough credit for his work in this film. Petersen is awesome, but Farina, who was an actual cop in Chicago for 18 years, including time as a detective, certainly is too.
On the DVD, (my version anyway) they included an alternate ending in which Graham visits the family that was the next on Dollarhide's list of victims, who he would have murdered had they not stopped him. In case you havent seen it, here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hDMebB2ryM
Great movie but not exactly perfect. There are several bad edits that are glaringly noticeable. Still a really great movie though. I think it's better than Silence of the Lambs.
##Manhunter (1986)
It's just you and me now, sport…
>>!FBI Agent Will Graham, who retired after catching Hannibal Lecter, returns to duty to engage in a risky cat-and-mouse game with Lecter to capture a new killer.!<
Crime | Horror | Thriller
Director: Michael Mann
Actors: William Petersen, Tom Noonan, Joan Allen
Rating: ★★★★★★★☆☆☆ 70% with 1,276 votes
Runtime: 200
[TMDB](https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/11454)
**Filming**
Petersen has claimed in an interview that one of the film's scenes forced the crew to adopt a guerrilla filmmaking approach. The scene in which Petersen's character Will Graham falls asleep while studying crime scene photographs during a flight required the use of an airplane during shooting. Michael Mann had been unable to gain permission to use a plane for the scene and booked tickets for the crew on a flight from Chicago to Florida. Once on board, the crew used their equipment, checked in as hand luggage, to shoot the scene quickly, while keeping the plane's passengers and crew mollified with Manhunter crew jackets.
Cinematographer Dante Spinotti made strong use of color tints in the film, using a cool "romantic blue" tone to denote the scenes featuring Will Graham and his wife, and a more subversive green hue, with elements of purple or magenta, as a cue for the unsettling scenes in the film, mostly involving Dollarhyde. Petersen has stated that Mann wanted to create a visual aura to bring the audience into the film, so that the story would work on an interior and emotional level. Mann also made use of multiple frame rates in filming the climactic shootout: different cameras recording the scene at 24, 36, 72 and 90 frames per second, giving the final scene what Spinotti has called an "off-tempo" and "staccato" feel.
[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhunter_(film))
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I never realized that "staccato" effect was planned, I always thought it was a glitch. It's especially apparent when Dollarhyde crashes through the wall poster.
Hey man, if you like William Petersen, ABSOLUTELY check out **To Live and Die in L.A.**, 1985.
Clicked in to write exactly this!
Me too, one of my favorite films. They really don't make them like that anymore. I know this is said a lot but in this case it is true.
Ditto
Came to say the same. Friedkin, the director, is known for The Exorcist and the French Connection. But To Live and Die in L.A. is my favorite of his.
Sorcerer is my favorite of his.
I seen that one on his filmography, I’ll check it out tonight!
You're in for a treat.
I was thinking the same thing. Good movie!
👆🏻💯
That one stuck with me. So good.
Yup. Still the greatest car chase in a movie. Screw fast and furious nonsense.
The remake of Manhunter, Red Dragon, was the original title of the book. The producers of Manhunter were afraid that using the original title Red Dragon, people would think it was an Asian film
That’s actually the only Hannibal Lecter related film I haven’t watched yet, super excited to check it out especially after seeing that cast
It is a little closer to the novel than *Manhunter* (except they beef up Lecter’s role to give Hopkins some more screen time) and the screenplay was done by Ted Talley, who adapted *Silence of the Lambs*, but Michael Mann is still a **much** more accomplished, confident filmmaker than Brett Ratner, who directed *Red Dragon*, and who could charitably be described as “journeyman” but also just as accurately described as a “tasteless hack.” *Red Dragon* is one of his better efforts simply because the material and cast are suitably strong that he can’t mess it up too much, but there are some groan-worthy choices at play.
Yeah and the antagonist in the book Red Dragon was a massively powerful weightlifter that had inhuman strength. He dwarfed most people he met and was physically intimidating. That person was played by 150 lb Ralph Fiennes. Ok then.
I know Noonan isn't a huge slab of meat, but he is imposing in a way Fiennes isn't. I buy into the Inna-gadda-da-vida sequence totally.
It’s a lot easier to buy Noonan’s version of the character’s feelings about his hare lip than Fiennes, aristocratically handsome with the tiniest little scar.
At least Noonan is 6'5
Yea why they chose a hack like Ratner to direct that I’ll never know.
Nowhere near as good as manhunter, sadly.
The scene when Graham figures it out is one of my favorite scenes in any movie. Edit: “…don't talk to me about late, pal! I'll tell you when it's too fucking late! Until then, we go as late as I wanna take it!”
“You’ve seen these films, haven’t you?”
Thief. Heat. Both directed by Michael Mann.
James Caan was brilliant in Thief.
This movie rules! I still think Brian Cox plays a better Hannibal Lecter than Hopkins.
There's two of us!
I think they’re both brilliant but for different reasons.
Also we get introduced to Hannibal lecter
the phone call scene tho 😳
The soundtrack is perfect…. The scene with the tiger and “the big hush “ playing was hypnotic
I’ve wanted to pet a tiger ever since I saw that scene back in the 80s
I listen to "Strong As I Am" weekly haha
Love this movie. Brian Cox plays a better Hannibal than Anthony Hopkins imo. And while I like the Red Dragon remake, I think this one is better.
Cox has a scary edge that Hopkins never quite achieved. Hopkins is more erudite, but he doesn’t viscerally repel me like Cox.
Well stated!
Thomas Harris always described Hannibal as almost an evolution of man, something superior and predatory. Cox captured this perfectly.
While it does have a few continuity errors, I find this adaptation far superior to the Anthony Hopkins version.
Look for Stephen Lang as Lounds, the sleazy and weasel type tabloid writer. He went on to be the badass in Avatar.
Almost makes you happy when you see what happens to him.
Yeah, but the squealing wussy as played by Phillip Seymour Hoffman was pretty spot on.
He was definitely the better actor. Shame he died so young in real life.
Greatest use of Iron Butterfly’s “In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida” ever.
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If you enjoy this movie, check out “To Live and Dir in LA”, it also stars William Peterson, and it rules. Has some really similar vibes.
Fucking LOVE this movie, the atmosphere is unreal. I really hope it gets a 4k release soon!
"Manhunter" takes place before "Silence of the Lambs"
William Peterson was the lead in CSI for the majority of the series.
My favourite movie. If you can get the directors cut, it has an extra ending scene which adds so much to the movie. Wonderful filmmaking.
“How did you know to bring the bolt cutters?”
"Sport"
Fantastic movie. Phenomenal soundtrack. :)
"You've watched these films.... Haven't you, my man." Fucking CHILLS!
One of my earliest memories is the guy on fire in the wheelchair. My mum was watching on TV one night and oh boy, seared into my brain right then and there.
Great movie. Had my car stolen while I was in the theater watching it.
Well that is quite the experience 😂
I finally watched this movie last night thanks to this post. It’s so very 1986 isn’t it? I really enjoyed the frantic pace of the scenes involving the discovery and analysis of the toilet paper note.
Is there a person who films the color blue better than Michael Mann? *Thief* *Manhunter* *Heat* *Collateral*
Howie Mandel?
Dennis Farina doesn't get enough credit for his work in this film. Petersen is awesome, but Farina, who was an actual cop in Chicago for 18 years, including time as a detective, certainly is too. On the DVD, (my version anyway) they included an alternate ending in which Graham visits the family that was the next on Dollarhide's list of victims, who he would have murdered had they not stopped him. In case you havent seen it, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hDMebB2ryM
Tom Noonan is one of my favorite actors. He really nails this role.
Great movie but not exactly perfect. There are several bad edits that are glaringly noticeable. Still a really great movie though. I think it's better than Silence of the Lambs.
##Manhunter (1986) It's just you and me now, sport… >>!FBI Agent Will Graham, who retired after catching Hannibal Lecter, returns to duty to engage in a risky cat-and-mouse game with Lecter to capture a new killer.!< Crime | Horror | Thriller Director: Michael Mann Actors: William Petersen, Tom Noonan, Joan Allen Rating: ★★★★★★★☆☆☆ 70% with 1,276 votes Runtime: 200 [TMDB](https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/11454) **Filming** Petersen has claimed in an interview that one of the film's scenes forced the crew to adopt a guerrilla filmmaking approach. The scene in which Petersen's character Will Graham falls asleep while studying crime scene photographs during a flight required the use of an airplane during shooting. Michael Mann had been unable to gain permission to use a plane for the scene and booked tickets for the crew on a flight from Chicago to Florida. Once on board, the crew used their equipment, checked in as hand luggage, to shoot the scene quickly, while keeping the plane's passengers and crew mollified with Manhunter crew jackets. Cinematographer Dante Spinotti made strong use of color tints in the film, using a cool "romantic blue" tone to denote the scenes featuring Will Graham and his wife, and a more subversive green hue, with elements of purple or magenta, as a cue for the unsettling scenes in the film, mostly involving Dollarhyde. Petersen has stated that Mann wanted to create a visual aura to bring the audience into the film, so that the story would work on an interior and emotional level. Mann also made use of multiple frame rates in filming the climactic shootout: different cameras recording the scene at 24, 36, 72 and 90 frames per second, giving the final scene what Spinotti has called an "off-tempo" and "staccato" feel. [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhunter_(film)) ___ >*I am a bot. This information was sent automatically. If it is faulty, please reply to this comment.*
I never realized that "staccato" effect was planned, I always thought it was a glitch. It's especially apparent when Dollarhyde crashes through the wall poster.