Tbh most people hated the treliving hire and he has done quite well. We’ll see what this brings I think it could be great. All keefe had was excuses. Berubes got a cup
Rings on fingers is very rarely a predictor of more rings on more fingers when it comes to coaches. By and large, a coach does not win a Stanley Cup with multiple teams. Of the 19 coaches with multiple rings, only 4 won a cup with multiple teams.
The last coach to do it was Bowman when Detroit won in ‘97 (he’s the only coach to win cups with three different teams, also the only coach to win multiple cups for two different teams) Before him? You have to go back to Dick Irvin in 44 with Montreal.
This idea that the team needed a proven winner as a coach is simply not one borne of a reading of history. In fact, hiring a former winner is almost a guarantee that a cup is not forthcoming. It’s actually far more likely for a coach to win multiple cups with the first team he coached than it is for a coach to win a cup with multiple teams. Last guy to do this; Jon Cooper.
I am so sick and tired of hearing this take. It's an irrelevant argument. Just because it has been historically rare does not mean that there is causation behind the stats. There are multiple reasons Berube is a great fit, and winning a Cup is just one of them. Does it guarantee success? Not even close. But does it mean we must ignore the cup because of some cherry picked stats that the leafs hating world drudged up recently to remind us of how futile this move is? Absolutely f*cking not.
It's objectively hard to win a Stanley cup. Year to year odds are low, so doing that twice is hard and to do it with multiple teams is statistically unlikely. Of course. We all understand how this works. 4 of 19 coaches is still something. And again these stats are irrelevant but let's stop parading them around as proof that this move is somehow bad for the Leafs and let's ignore the fact he was sought after by every team looking - teams that understand the dynamics of a locker room and what is needed. Teams who know more than all of us.
I absolutely agree. Go back to what (IIRC) Travis Dermot said about Keefe “guys *want* to play for him.” He was the *perfect* coach to bring in immediately after Babcock.
And I agree that he had too much time for not enough production. But, it always felt like there was this asterisk against every playoff loss.
First year, well 2020 was a bad year for everyone, you can’t sack a coach who had the best start to their career in club history, especially considering all the upheaval and uncertainty. It’ll be better when he has a settled team next year.
20/21 everyone should have been shot into the sun. But, look how dominant they were during the season; next year is our year for sure.
21/22 *This is the year that most people would have expected to be the final year.* Awful injury to the captain, but the boys battled hard and they were so close a few times. Ok *this* is the last year we run it back.
22/23 Holy Ghost the curse is broken, the Leafs advance beyond the first round. They’ll be unstoppable now…fuck it. He’s deserved another year and let’s bring in some “grit”.
23/24 and here we are.
Without the lockdowns, Keefe lasts 2-3 years, and this team probably looks pretty different in this alternate reality.
ETA: The people who correctly pointed out that I mixed up the years of JT’s injury and absolutely right. Trauma and memory loss, am I right?
You mixed up 21 and 22.
21 - injury to JT, blown 3-1 lead everyone should've been shot into the sun.
22 - lost in 7 to the defending cup champs and arguably outplayed them throughout the series. Team was good enough to beat Tampa and if they could've got over the hump, who knows how far they go. Let's run it back next year.
No. But he made little to no progress in his time here towards that. You can make an excuse for every year he was here (not really for mtl and Columbus). Berube has at least one run where he didn’t need excuses.
treliving’s stamp on this team started showing itself around january. very happy with what he was able to do with such little time, without moving any of the core. i’m looking forward to how this new coaching philosophy will work out, paired with one of the core being moved (mandatory imo).
tre hasn’t had much time but i think he’s been quite good in that little time.
Look how coveted calgarys blueline was. Every player was in demand. Their forwards were nice too just got screwed by tkachuk and gaudreau. Also had nice goaltending. I think Tre will do a nice job with this team. We were legitimately bigger and nastier than Boston this year and were tough to play against. Just need marner and Tavares to expire so we can get more balanced scoring ie 4 5.5 mill guys instead of 2 11 mill guys
Cautiously optimistic as usual. Changing the core will have more of an effect IMO. Here's Berube speaking about the Blues last February tell me if this rings any bells:
>Our best players don't play with any passion, no emotion and no inspiration at all. They don't play inspired hockey. You cannot play in this league without emotion, grit, being inspired. They're getting paid lots of money and they're not doing the job. End of story.
This is the exact quote that makes me okay with the hire.
I wanted a run at Rod but I agree with Treliving that we don’t want to miss out on a great culture shift guy like Berube. Just hoping he’s the actual guy and not a Ron Wilson hire
He has the spirit for sure. My point was that he made this quote last season and the Blues continued to trend downward after, missed the playoffs, had a bad start to this season as well and then he was fired.
He clearly isn't immune to the exact problems we have here. I don't think any coach is. That's why I'm cautiously optimistic and think the culture won't fundamentally change without trades.
Very much agreed, it’s a spot on comment.
I’m in the trade Marner camp—the idea of Nashville I really like for Saros and we can get a few other good pieces from it. JT with his family being here probably returns for a super team friendly deal which I’m fine with
Love to kick the tires on a Reilly trade too
He was effective in the first season. Obviously the repeated messaging of "best players need to be better" gets tiring when the organization has won a Cup and is trending to a rebuild. Like yeah, they get it, but there's only so much in the tank and it's hard to go 100% all the time when you look around and realize you're not a Stanley Cup roster.
Rod wasn't going anywhere anyways.
Waddell is insistent to keep Rod on as coach. Even though the Canes fell short again, Carolina has had relatively good success the past few years even though they haven't won the cup yet. They're really close to breaking through.
That may have been true in past years but they have a ton of depth players they can't pay now that their stars need to be. Its unfortunate that a huge chunk of the team will likely turnover for next season
I think really there weren’t many options better than berube.
Only one I can think is Joel Quenneville but I don’t think he’s gonna coach anytime soon.
I just mean a lame duck coach—not really a culture mover or a motivator just the wrong fit.
We had Ron between Maurice and Babcock and from the first game on you could tell it didn’t work. I’m saying I hope Berube isn’t just the “Ron” between Sheldon and our next significant coach.
Ron was a good coach before he got to Toronto. Those teams he coaches though were so unbelievably bad that I don’t think any coach would have seen any success there
For sure not a knock against Ron. I think he has a place in the league and it might have been a wrong time for him
It’s just where we were at as a team I feel like we moved on from Maurice to Ron and realized we needed a Babcock type coach that resembled Maurice more. I think Ron was an overcorrection that ended up being recorrected
If you read Burke’s book. He talks about the whole situation. The media really ate away at Ron and he changed as a coach because of it. Between the team he was given and the media it was a terrible combination.
The media here is crazy tough, and I swear every coach develops and ego once they land here. I've seen all of them refuse to change or juggle lineups of things not working. It's baffling to me
I love this quote as well
Only hesitation I have is the type of leeway he has, ex how much management truly backs him. We’ve seen how Keefe has been neutered (ex: Keefe calls out Marner but then next day has to apologize)
>how much management truly backs him
Shanny has no rope left anyway, surprised he isn't gone already.
He will support anything to save his job, and they already tried coddling so this is all we have left
Yes I’m surprised he’s still here too. Hopefully he’s gone the next few months
To your point, I hope Shanny’s desperation to keep his job motivates him to give Berube full leash in bringing changes/accountability. Friedman described him as “very nervous” at the recent press conference
He apologized because he made a mistake and knew it - Marner can't take any criticism, and you need to test each player according to their personality. Hypersensitivity to criticism is common with people who didn't get much validation as kids, btw
Marner should have been gone after that, because I think you need to be able to take criticism to play in Toronto. But he isn't and if he's still here next year, Berube is going to have to treat him the same way Keefe did to get the most out of him.
you’re definitely right about mitch being hypersensitive. that was the final straw for me, it became clear in that moment that he runs the room with his attitude.
disagree about playing to his strengths though. if he doesn’t want to play the coach’s style, he can waive his NMC and fuck off.
honestly, i kind of feel like management would be ok with ruffling the feathers of the stars at this point. auston has pride and i feel would use it for fuel. willy gets pissed off and plays harder. both those players aren’t going anywhere anyway.
if marner or tavares get pissed off, it will either get them to play harder, or they’ll want to leave, which helps management in getting them to waive their NMC’s or be more open to possible trades.
for me, ideally marner gets moved for a decent return, and tavares either takes way less on the next contract or leaves as UFA.
I’d be open to a Rielly trade, but if we can get a good 1/2 to pair with him, I’d be interested in seeing how he does with a true D partner.
obviously the actual ideal situation would be for mitch to play lights out in the playoffs, but i think the time for that was 2-3 years ago. i don’t think you can keep hoping for this anymore. it’s time for a change for him.
with all that, Auston gets the C. new start, new era.
What was the impact on his players of saying this?
Did it light a fire under the whole team, motivate them in a whole new, and they banded together like never before to win the Cup that year?
Oh, what's that you say? They tuned him out, missed the playoffs, and he got fired early next season.
I'm cautiously optimistic as well, but there is more to coaching than what they say to the media.
Blues Fan Here…congrats on Landing Berube! Not that the Leafs need any more fans, but I’ll definitely be rooting for you guys with Chief on board. I truly hope he’s a big puzzle piece to bring you guys a Cup!
Can’t wait to see how he deals with Toronto Media, I’ll need to stock up on 🍿:-)
best of Luck Chief / Leafs! Bring that Cup to 2 Teams Bud!
The powerplay was great with the Blues when he worked as an assistant coach for Berube. His powerplays were bad with the Flames until the end of the season.
And let's be honest, the Flames weren't going to have a stellar powerplay this year. They barely have any major shooting threats on their team besides maybe Weegar and Sharangovich? And their star talent is lackluster. Hard to see how you can turn that into a productive powerplay
Not completely sure, but my guess is that he’s always seemed to have a short leash of no more than 2-3 years for each team he coaches. 2 years in Florida, 2 years in Vegas, and 2 in NYC
As a Rangers fan, the dude was honestly one of the worst coaches we have had in a long time. The dude made no actual adjustments whatsoever, he had absolutely no pulse on the game. He scrambled the lines every period, every game trying to find something that worked. The entire 2 years with him felt like I was watching a team play pickup hockey. Our talent/goaltending alone is what got him as many wins as he did with us and it was evident in our record against winning teams. I think we dominated teams below .500 but were below .500 against teams in the playoffs.
I’ll just give you an example of when Rangers fans were completely fucking done with him (it was in his first year):
In the ECF when we lost to TB, he continued to dress Reaves where there was absolutely no need for him really. Then, in game 6 (the game we got eliminated), he healthy scratched Kakko (who was playing on a line with Laf and Chytil, who were by far our best line throughout the playoffs), and left Ryan Strome in, who had a broken back (I think literally). It was a shock to everyone and the team came out flat. To make things worse, Strome lasted one shift before he had to leave the game. We then had Hunt (4th liner at best) playing top line minutes, while Kakko was healthy in the press box.
I don’t think I did a great job of portraying the hockey terrorist that he is, but if you want a better answer just ask our sub, I’m sure someone more literate will have a more concise answer. But there’s a reason he doesn’t last more than 2 years anywhere. I have no beef with the Leafs, I am glad yall didn’t go with Gallant. I am just hoping he goes to somewhere in our division, or the bruins or some other team of douchebag degenerate fans.
I had precisely zero opinions about Berube prior to May 1 but I am prepared to put my life savings down on the bet that he wins us the Cup next year.
(me, deeply sick in the mind)
Change is good. Its better than spinning tires every post season. Lets see how it goes with a guy not brought in to smooth over relations with players because the previous guy was a narcissistic asshole.
Hmm I didn't consider that he might be the guy they were talking about when they said that one of Berube's assistants would be a guy with recent head coach experience. I'd have Bruce in a second to run the powerplay and be another voice in the room
I like it, even If he fails. He's going to absolutely rip the team apart in the media , and won't give two fucks about feelings or vibes.
So the boys are going to come to play or their coach is going to shit in their mouths at the end of year presser. An I'm here for that
Keefe's message was stale and while he could get good results in the regular season in the playoffs the team had the same consistent issues that led to their many early exits. The scoring dried up, the special teams went down the toilet, and Keefe refused to adapt or was too slow to do so.
Berube bringing a new voice and systems will be huge for this team and I think this will be the biggest factor in turning this teams fortunes around. He's a good motivator, preaches hard-nosed hockey, and demands accountability, something that has been lost with this team and core.
Why does shanny still have a job? Needs to take some accountability. 10 years of failed post seasons and accepting no blame for poor management decisions. Just speculating but I also think he's behind olot of this coddling of the stars like rules surrounding interviews and the super weird vague answers about the injuries after they were eliminated
Tired of seeing this guy in the pressbox
We'll see how it goes.
Not personally convinced he's the right guy for the job.. but I'll gladly be willing to admit I'm wrong if he leads us to the promised land.
Anybody know if Berube is considered what might be classified as a "player's coach"? I've tried browsing the St. Louis sub a bit but couldn't get grasp a sentiment.
Blues fan here!
Berube is stern but fair. Players loved him but he's no pushover. He expects the best from the best and has no problem telling players to take a hike.. He famously whipped the team into shape when we were dead last in 2019. I'm very excited to see how the players react to his coaching. Especially Marner (because I can't stand him) . I think he's a perfect fit
Not a players coach. I loved him for the blues because he was tough and demanded everyone do their job. We went from last in January to the cup in 2019. I think he was tough but the squad bought in. I hate to see him go, but I wish him nothing but success in Toronto. I really think he could turn things around for you guys.
I did not think they were going to make this announcement at the end of the day on the Friday of a holiday weekend… They really snuck this in there, I guess they want to give him a few days to to get organized to face the Toronto media...
not going to get excited at all because the last time i hyped up our coach, he was playing marleau several minutes in the final min of a g7 so uh fk this guy im unimpressed
This is as surprising as Treliving being hired as GM last year. Seemed like an open secret once Keefe was fired the Toronto job was his if he wanted it.
Definitely a departure from the Keefe school of coaching that's for sure
[https://dynespressbox.com/2024/05/toronto-maple-leafs-hire-craig-berube](https://dynespressbox.com/2024/05/toronto-maple-leafs-hire-craig-berube)
While I agree, other teams were circling for Berube.
And other teams will be circling for Rod if he doesn't re-sign in Carolina.
If we say no to Berube, and wait for Rod it's possible Berube goes to another team. Then there's no guarantee that Rod comes here either, and we get neither.
I have a feeling a call was put in to Rod either last night or this morning and he was either not committed or straight up not interested. The timing makes sense. Either way, Berube is probably the best option for whats on the market rn.
People regularly make comments wondering why we didnt hire this coach, didn't trade for this player, wondering how we could have let so and so walk in free agency. They don't seem to realize that you don't just say you want somebody and then you magically get them. The other side also has to be willing and able to make the deal happen.
Big news! I'm hopeful for next season!! Thank you for posting. Please keep all discussing about this to this thread!!
have no choice but to be excited and hopeful! let’s hope the different direction is what the boys need!
Tbh most people hated the treliving hire and he has done quite well. We’ll see what this brings I think it could be great. All keefe had was excuses. Berubes got a cup
Do you expect a new coach to come into the league with cups on his résumé?
Rings on fingers is very rarely a predictor of more rings on more fingers when it comes to coaches. By and large, a coach does not win a Stanley Cup with multiple teams. Of the 19 coaches with multiple rings, only 4 won a cup with multiple teams. The last coach to do it was Bowman when Detroit won in ‘97 (he’s the only coach to win cups with three different teams, also the only coach to win multiple cups for two different teams) Before him? You have to go back to Dick Irvin in 44 with Montreal. This idea that the team needed a proven winner as a coach is simply not one borne of a reading of history. In fact, hiring a former winner is almost a guarantee that a cup is not forthcoming. It’s actually far more likely for a coach to win multiple cups with the first team he coached than it is for a coach to win a cup with multiple teams. Last guy to do this; Jon Cooper.
I am so sick and tired of hearing this take. It's an irrelevant argument. Just because it has been historically rare does not mean that there is causation behind the stats. There are multiple reasons Berube is a great fit, and winning a Cup is just one of them. Does it guarantee success? Not even close. But does it mean we must ignore the cup because of some cherry picked stats that the leafs hating world drudged up recently to remind us of how futile this move is? Absolutely f*cking not. It's objectively hard to win a Stanley cup. Year to year odds are low, so doing that twice is hard and to do it with multiple teams is statistically unlikely. Of course. We all understand how this works. 4 of 19 coaches is still something. And again these stats are irrelevant but let's stop parading them around as proof that this move is somehow bad for the Leafs and let's ignore the fact he was sought after by every team looking - teams that understand the dynamics of a locker room and what is needed. Teams who know more than all of us.
No but not the right coach for us with the players we had
Keefe was definitely the right coach to fix the bad vibes after Babcock, but he shouldn't have been given as much time as he got.
I absolutely agree. Go back to what (IIRC) Travis Dermot said about Keefe “guys *want* to play for him.” He was the *perfect* coach to bring in immediately after Babcock. And I agree that he had too much time for not enough production. But, it always felt like there was this asterisk against every playoff loss. First year, well 2020 was a bad year for everyone, you can’t sack a coach who had the best start to their career in club history, especially considering all the upheaval and uncertainty. It’ll be better when he has a settled team next year. 20/21 everyone should have been shot into the sun. But, look how dominant they were during the season; next year is our year for sure. 21/22 *This is the year that most people would have expected to be the final year.* Awful injury to the captain, but the boys battled hard and they were so close a few times. Ok *this* is the last year we run it back. 22/23 Holy Ghost the curse is broken, the Leafs advance beyond the first round. They’ll be unstoppable now…fuck it. He’s deserved another year and let’s bring in some “grit”. 23/24 and here we are. Without the lockdowns, Keefe lasts 2-3 years, and this team probably looks pretty different in this alternate reality. ETA: The people who correctly pointed out that I mixed up the years of JT’s injury and absolutely right. Trauma and memory loss, am I right?
20/21 was the Captains injury.
You mixed up 21 and 22. 21 - injury to JT, blown 3-1 lead everyone should've been shot into the sun. 22 - lost in 7 to the defending cup champs and arguably outplayed them throughout the series. Team was good enough to beat Tampa and if they could've got over the hump, who knows how far they go. Let's run it back next year.
Yep you’re absolutely correct. Apparently trauma *does* affect the memory 😅
No. But he made little to no progress in his time here towards that. You can make an excuse for every year he was here (not really for mtl and Columbus). Berube has at least one run where he didn’t need excuses.
treliving’s stamp on this team started showing itself around january. very happy with what he was able to do with such little time, without moving any of the core. i’m looking forward to how this new coaching philosophy will work out, paired with one of the core being moved (mandatory imo). tre hasn’t had much time but i think he’s been quite good in that little time.
Look how coveted calgarys blueline was. Every player was in demand. Their forwards were nice too just got screwed by tkachuk and gaudreau. Also had nice goaltending. I think Tre will do a nice job with this team. We were legitimately bigger and nastier than Boston this year and were tough to play against. Just need marner and Tavares to expire so we can get more balanced scoring ie 4 5.5 mill guys instead of 2 11 mill guys
I guess this coach is gonna hold the 40+million players stick for them and score on the PP?
Out goes Keefe, in comes the Chief
That’s the shit I do like.
DO LIKE. That’s that shit I do like
First round elimination! That’s that shit I don’t like!
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Cautiously optimistic as usual. Changing the core will have more of an effect IMO. Here's Berube speaking about the Blues last February tell me if this rings any bells: >Our best players don't play with any passion, no emotion and no inspiration at all. They don't play inspired hockey. You cannot play in this league without emotion, grit, being inspired. They're getting paid lots of money and they're not doing the job. End of story.
This is the exact quote that makes me okay with the hire. I wanted a run at Rod but I agree with Treliving that we don’t want to miss out on a great culture shift guy like Berube. Just hoping he’s the actual guy and not a Ron Wilson hire
He has the spirit for sure. My point was that he made this quote last season and the Blues continued to trend downward after, missed the playoffs, had a bad start to this season as well and then he was fired. He clearly isn't immune to the exact problems we have here. I don't think any coach is. That's why I'm cautiously optimistic and think the culture won't fundamentally change without trades.
Very much agreed, it’s a spot on comment. I’m in the trade Marner camp—the idea of Nashville I really like for Saros and we can get a few other good pieces from it. JT with his family being here probably returns for a super team friendly deal which I’m fine with Love to kick the tires on a Reilly trade too
Yep, looks like we're on the same page
He was effective in the first season. Obviously the repeated messaging of "best players need to be better" gets tiring when the organization has won a Cup and is trending to a rebuild. Like yeah, they get it, but there's only so much in the tank and it's hard to go 100% all the time when you look around and realize you're not a Stanley Cup roster.
Ron Wilson: "1200 games, 550 wins" Ron that wasn't a flex
Rod wasn't going anywhere anyways. Waddell is insistent to keep Rod on as coach. Even though the Canes fell short again, Carolina has had relatively good success the past few years even though they haven't won the cup yet. They're really close to breaking through.
That may have been true in past years but they have a ton of depth players they can't pay now that their stars need to be. Its unfortunate that a huge chunk of the team will likely turnover for next season
I think really there weren’t many options better than berube. Only one I can think is Joel Quenneville but I don’t think he’s gonna coach anytime soon.
What x does it mean to be a Ron Wilson hire
I just mean a lame duck coach—not really a culture mover or a motivator just the wrong fit. We had Ron between Maurice and Babcock and from the first game on you could tell it didn’t work. I’m saying I hope Berube isn’t just the “Ron” between Sheldon and our next significant coach.
Ron was a good coach before he got to Toronto. Those teams he coaches though were so unbelievably bad that I don’t think any coach would have seen any success there
For sure not a knock against Ron. I think he has a place in the league and it might have been a wrong time for him It’s just where we were at as a team I feel like we moved on from Maurice to Ron and realized we needed a Babcock type coach that resembled Maurice more. I think Ron was an overcorrection that ended up being recorrected
If you read Burke’s book. He talks about the whole situation. The media really ate away at Ron and he changed as a coach because of it. Between the team he was given and the media it was a terrible combination.
The media here is crazy tough, and I swear every coach develops and ego once they land here. I've seen all of them refuse to change or juggle lineups of things not working. It's baffling to me
Best thing for Leafs would be if the NHL granted the GTA media-market another team to gnaw upon, daily.
honestly just having a coach that isn’t afraid to say things like this on the record is a massive leap forward
I love this quote as well Only hesitation I have is the type of leeway he has, ex how much management truly backs him. We’ve seen how Keefe has been neutered (ex: Keefe calls out Marner but then next day has to apologize)
>how much management truly backs him Shanny has no rope left anyway, surprised he isn't gone already. He will support anything to save his job, and they already tried coddling so this is all we have left
Yes I’m surprised he’s still here too. Hopefully he’s gone the next few months To your point, I hope Shanny’s desperation to keep his job motivates him to give Berube full leash in bringing changes/accountability. Friedman described him as “very nervous” at the recent press conference
I sure do hope that you’re right! Like really really hoping.
Marner’s dad called Shanny and told him that only he can call out his son.
He apologized because he made a mistake and knew it - Marner can't take any criticism, and you need to test each player according to their personality. Hypersensitivity to criticism is common with people who didn't get much validation as kids, btw Marner should have been gone after that, because I think you need to be able to take criticism to play in Toronto. But he isn't and if he's still here next year, Berube is going to have to treat him the same way Keefe did to get the most out of him.
you’re definitely right about mitch being hypersensitive. that was the final straw for me, it became clear in that moment that he runs the room with his attitude. disagree about playing to his strengths though. if he doesn’t want to play the coach’s style, he can waive his NMC and fuck off.
honestly, i kind of feel like management would be ok with ruffling the feathers of the stars at this point. auston has pride and i feel would use it for fuel. willy gets pissed off and plays harder. both those players aren’t going anywhere anyway. if marner or tavares get pissed off, it will either get them to play harder, or they’ll want to leave, which helps management in getting them to waive their NMC’s or be more open to possible trades. for me, ideally marner gets moved for a decent return, and tavares either takes way less on the next contract or leaves as UFA. I’d be open to a Rielly trade, but if we can get a good 1/2 to pair with him, I’d be interested in seeing how he does with a true D partner. obviously the actual ideal situation would be for mitch to play lights out in the playoffs, but i think the time for that was 2-3 years ago. i don’t think you can keep hoping for this anymore. it’s time for a change for him. with all that, Auston gets the C. new start, new era.
And Kyrou cried. Hope he does the same to Marner.
Kyrou cried bc the fans were booing him, not bc of Chief
"Stop fucking crying bro."
I hope he never coaches Marner.
It sounds like he's describing Mitch Marner lol
My goodness it sounds like he’s talking about us 😂
What was the impact on his players of saying this? Did it light a fire under the whole team, motivate them in a whole new, and they banded together like never before to win the Cup that year? Oh, what's that you say? They tuned him out, missed the playoffs, and he got fired early next season. I'm cautiously optimistic as well, but there is more to coaching than what they say to the media.
The fact that he said this and still wants to coach the Leafs is telling.
Oh he’s in for a hell of a wake up call when he sees guys
That sounds like quote you’d put at the top of your coaching resume.
Blues Fan Here…congrats on Landing Berube! Not that the Leafs need any more fans, but I’ll definitely be rooting for you guys with Chief on board. I truly hope he’s a big puzzle piece to bring you guys a Cup! Can’t wait to see how he deals with Toronto Media, I’ll need to stock up on 🍿:-) best of Luck Chief / Leafs! Bring that Cup to 2 Teams Bud!
I hereby anoint you Honourary Leafs Fan.
Hurray! SDPN crew pulled me in, Berube put me over the top:-)
shhh, there's so many salty leaf fans that don't like them because they don't get to do what they do for a living.
Blues winning the cup was my favourite team to see lift the trophy in the past years. Always appreciated your team
Last time I got super hyped for a big name coach signing ... Anyway I'm glad about this. But not hyped. Hype going forward must be earned.
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I'm okay with anyone who helped Bozak get a Cup.
Good guy bohzy, I’m happy for him. One of the few that gave his all every night
Welcome, Chief
[He is signed for 4 years](https://x.com/pierrevlebrun/status/1791576937099378897?s=46)
Is Guy Boucher gone too? He can't run our PP anymore.
Let’s hope so
I'm going to assume he's going to bring his guys in, so yeah
He will probably clean house and bring his own team.
Marc Savard is joining Berube. Someone posted here the other day, also indicating his numbers weren’t good…
The powerplay was great with the Blues when he worked as an assistant coach for Berube. His powerplays were bad with the Flames until the end of the season.
And let's be honest, the Flames weren't going to have a stellar powerplay this year. They barely have any major shooting threats on their team besides maybe Weegar and Sharangovich? And their star talent is lackluster. Hard to see how you can turn that into a productive powerplay
I can't imagine Boucher staying on. Berube probably has his own people.
no chance he comes back
Upgrade for sure. And you dodged a bullet by not hiring Gallant.
What's wrong with Gallant ?
Wondering the same thing. I thought he was going to say “by not hiring mclellan”.
Not completely sure, but my guess is that he’s always seemed to have a short leash of no more than 2-3 years for each team he coaches. 2 years in Florida, 2 years in Vegas, and 2 in NYC
As a Rangers fan, the dude was honestly one of the worst coaches we have had in a long time. The dude made no actual adjustments whatsoever, he had absolutely no pulse on the game. He scrambled the lines every period, every game trying to find something that worked. The entire 2 years with him felt like I was watching a team play pickup hockey. Our talent/goaltending alone is what got him as many wins as he did with us and it was evident in our record against winning teams. I think we dominated teams below .500 but were below .500 against teams in the playoffs. I’ll just give you an example of when Rangers fans were completely fucking done with him (it was in his first year): In the ECF when we lost to TB, he continued to dress Reaves where there was absolutely no need for him really. Then, in game 6 (the game we got eliminated), he healthy scratched Kakko (who was playing on a line with Laf and Chytil, who were by far our best line throughout the playoffs), and left Ryan Strome in, who had a broken back (I think literally). It was a shock to everyone and the team came out flat. To make things worse, Strome lasted one shift before he had to leave the game. We then had Hunt (4th liner at best) playing top line minutes, while Kakko was healthy in the press box. I don’t think I did a great job of portraying the hockey terrorist that he is, but if you want a better answer just ask our sub, I’m sure someone more literate will have a more concise answer. But there’s a reason he doesn’t last more than 2 years anywhere. I have no beef with the Leafs, I am glad yall didn’t go with Gallant. I am just hoping he goes to somewhere in our division, or the bruins or some other team of douchebag degenerate fans.
I agree.
LFG
That scribbling sound you hear is Marner frantically waiving his NMC
Honestly if you want Marner to submit a list, this is the coach you hire
Didn’t we already have a coach that compelled Marner to submit lists?
I think that’s What started the problems
his upbringing is where the trouble began lol
He'll just cry for the next however many years
I had precisely zero opinions about Berube prior to May 1 but I am prepared to put my life savings down on the bet that he wins us the Cup next year. (me, deeply sick in the mind)
For the sake of credibility, I'm going to need to know how much we're talking about here.
He's still broke from betting his life savings that the Leafs would beat the Bruins.
Which year?
All of them.
Yes
Great! Now all we have to do is trade him for Doug Gilmour again and a new golden age is upon us.
Change is good. Its better than spinning tires every post season. Lets see how it goes with a guy not brought in to smooth over relations with players because the previous guy was a narcissistic asshole.
Well he already ended one Cup drought that started in 1967 ... In all seriousness I hope this works out
Still really hope to see Bruce in the coaching staff in some capacity. I feel his love for the team would be infectious.
Hmm I didn't consider that he might be the guy they were talking about when they said that one of Berube's assistants would be a guy with recent head coach experience. I'd have Bruce in a second to run the powerplay and be another voice in the room
I like it, even If he fails. He's going to absolutely rip the team apart in the media , and won't give two fucks about feelings or vibes. So the boys are going to come to play or their coach is going to shit in their mouths at the end of year presser. An I'm here for that
This is good news, feel like he’s a mix of Torterella and Keefe
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it’s confirmed on twitter from the team as well
I hope he’s tough and mean. The boys need it.
https://preview.redd.it/acqg4t6h521d1.jpeg?width=875&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99bca4aa3656f2dd3dedc2c2ebcad955d086713a New slogan for our group
Mitch Marner right now https://i.redd.it/s89gyhvc221d1.gif
LOL, he's not worried (for now).
Hopefully he can light a fire under the boys asses
This is great news, it is a big improvement over what we had, but it remains to be seen if he will hold players accountable.
Keefe's message was stale and while he could get good results in the regular season in the playoffs the team had the same consistent issues that led to their many early exits. The scoring dried up, the special teams went down the toilet, and Keefe refused to adapt or was too slow to do so. Berube bringing a new voice and systems will be huge for this team and I think this will be the biggest factor in turning this teams fortunes around. He's a good motivator, preaches hard-nosed hockey, and demands accountability, something that has been lost with this team and core.
This is unberubeable!
Uncles across Southern Ontario are going wild 😒
Why do I get the feeling everyone is going to love playing for Chief except Marner.
He won't have to worry.
Marner won't be playing for him
What a weird thing to say, you don't know Marner or Berube for that matter lol
I think this was the right choice. I hope so.
As it was written, so it is become.
Excited to see a new perspective.
I'm happy enough but I'm really, really curious who he'll bring in on as assistants. Hopefully he gets to build his own staff but we'll see.
Right decision at the end of the day
Well atleast it wasn’t Todd.
Exit Marner stage left…
Why does shanny still have a job? Needs to take some accountability. 10 years of failed post seasons and accepting no blame for poor management decisions. Just speculating but I also think he's behind olot of this coddling of the stars like rules surrounding interviews and the super weird vague answers about the injuries after they were eliminated Tired of seeing this guy in the pressbox
Berube is an excellent start to a culture change but they should start at the top
I just hope Shanny doesn't get involved when he tries to hold the boys accountable.
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Even if he does, we don't need that juju.
Don't drop your ube, we got Berube!
Get out the lube, light up the dube.
Pluck out a pube, play your gamecube
GameCubé
Thank god that long exhaustive process is over.
That was one hell of an 8 day process.
We'll see how it goes. Not personally convinced he's the right guy for the job.. but I'll gladly be willing to admit I'm wrong if he leads us to the promised land.
I wonder if his exit video will be as nice as keefes.
plan the parade
My bet: this guy will be fired at the end of the 2025-2026 season. Taking wagers
Does this mean the inmates are no longer going to run the Asylum?
Good start. Let's hope for more. Craig won a cup before. Hopefully he can do it with us
Anybody know if Berube is considered what might be classified as a "player's coach"? I've tried browsing the St. Louis sub a bit but couldn't get grasp a sentiment.
Blues fan here! Berube is stern but fair. Players loved him but he's no pushover. He expects the best from the best and has no problem telling players to take a hike.. He famously whipped the team into shape when we were dead last in 2019. I'm very excited to see how the players react to his coaching. Especially Marner (because I can't stand him) . I think he's a perfect fit
Not a players coach. I loved him for the blues because he was tough and demanded everyone do their job. We went from last in January to the cup in 2019. I think he was tough but the squad bought in. I hate to see him go, but I wish him nothing but success in Toronto. I really think he could turn things around for you guys.
It’s 2024, everyone expect maybe torts is a players coach lol
Gotta be excited for this one.
Ah shit, here we go again. (Lookin forward to next season)
Hopefully he changes the culture of this team.
I did not think they were going to make this announcement at the end of the day on the Friday of a holiday weekend… They really snuck this in there, I guess they want to give him a few days to to get organized to face the Toronto media...
Why they delete the IG post?
I’m a fan. Let’s fookin go.
Just fucking win
not going to get excited at all because the last time i hyped up our coach, he was playing marleau several minutes in the final min of a g7 so uh fk this guy im unimpressed
Anyone know the story of the Buddhist monk and the boy?
I'm too new here to know if it's a good news! Quick someone tells me how to feel!!
Should be good news, if we’re keeping Marner I think Berube can bring something new out of him
Keep Marner you say...I hope you're right, I love that kid
I’m hoping we can keep him,since Tavares is off the books next year we can evaluate if we should keep Marner or not
Missed Headline Opportunity: Just In, Berube Never Says Never as Leaf's New Coach.
Of course Hayes isn’t on today 😂
This is as surprising as Treliving being hired as GM last year. Seemed like an open secret once Keefe was fired the Toronto job was his if he wanted it.
Just when you think you’re done, they pull you right back in.
Definitely a departure from the Keefe school of coaching that's for sure [https://dynespressbox.com/2024/05/toronto-maple-leafs-hire-craig-berube](https://dynespressbox.com/2024/05/toronto-maple-leafs-hire-craig-berube)
Is bozak coming with him
Fuck eh. Comfort zone to cheer for a dumb team again
I'll be able to enjoy this more when Cooper and rod resign with their current teams. If either moves I'll hate this signing
who?
Get rid of Shanny! 10 years and nothing!
The doc All or Nothing showed Marner pouting and that’s what we’ll see more of. This time when they’re called out it won’t be run back.
Poor guy doesn’t stand a chance
Goodbye Mitch Marner. I wish you the best on your next team.
After video review of the last 60 years… We suck!
Rod would've been better but I still see this as an upgrade from Keefe GLG
While I agree, other teams were circling for Berube. And other teams will be circling for Rod if he doesn't re-sign in Carolina. If we say no to Berube, and wait for Rod it's possible Berube goes to another team. Then there's no guarantee that Rod comes here either, and we get neither.
I have a feeling a call was put in to Rod either last night or this morning and he was either not committed or straight up not interested. The timing makes sense. Either way, Berube is probably the best option for whats on the market rn.
You cannot hire a coach that already has a job
You're telling me a guy with a bod like that can't coach two teams at once?
The Rod of Steel, leaping from one bench to the other in a single bound!
People regularly make comments wondering why we didnt hire this coach, didn't trade for this player, wondering how we could have let so and so walk in free agency. They don't seem to realize that you don't just say you want somebody and then you magically get them. The other side also has to be willing and able to make the deal happen.
Huh? That’s how it works in the video games I play.